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Lost films!

I've always been intrigued with movies where no print is known to exist. Occasionally a famous lost film will turn up (Gloria Swanson's "Queen Kelly" is one example), so there's always hope.

Most of these are truly lost films, but a few of the later ones have a print somewhere, but are inaccessible for various reasons.

by Anonymousreply 61June 6, 2019 8:07 PM

OP, this project is for you:

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by Anonymousreply 1November 12, 2015 7:03 PM

And here is the gorgeous image they chose to illustrate the event

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by Anonymousreply 2November 12, 2015 7:03 PM

There are more lost Hitchcock films. The Elastic Affair is still lost, and The White Shadow has only something like 20 minutes available (and it was just found two years ago).

The Day the Clown Cried exists and some clips show up on YouTube every so often, so keep a search out for it. The clips are from 1972-era European and British shows about the movie.

And you've forgotten two of the most notoriously lost films: London After Midnight (1927) and the one I really want to see, Convention City (1933).

by Anonymousreply 3November 12, 2015 7:04 PM

I'd also like to see 4 Devils (1928), Rolled Stockings (1927), Ladies of the Mob (1928), and a 1957 exploitation film called Man on the Prowl that I think is lost.

by Anonymousreply 4November 12, 2015 7:10 PM

Joan Crawford was also rumored to have appeared in a blue movie called The Plumber.

by Anonymousreply 5November 12, 2015 7:25 PM

Since when is the Soap Opera "Secret Storm" a lost film?

by Anonymousreply 6November 12, 2015 7:28 PM

I just read that "Catch My Soul" is scheduled for a Blu Ray release soon. I guess a print still exists.

by Anonymousreply 7November 12, 2015 7:29 PM

Master Class starring, written, and directed by Faye Dunaway. What a long strange trip that's been....

by Anonymousreply 8November 12, 2015 7:37 PM

The one I really mourn is Stroheim's full "Greed".

Queen Kelly only exists in a fragmentary version (Swanson walked out on filming when the scenes in the African brothel were to be shot); I think less than half the script was actually filmed. In a beautiful Wilder touch, clips from that movie are what Norma Desmond watches with Joe Gillis when she makes her "We didn't need words -- we had FACES" speech.

by Anonymousreply 9November 12, 2015 7:41 PM

The original Freaks, with uncut ending Rather, if it's the original ending, it would be "cut."

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by Anonymousreply 10November 12, 2015 7:41 PM

Another vote for Stroheim's "Greed."

by Anonymousreply 11November 12, 2015 8:00 PM

Half them lost films is with darkies being beaten by white folk and they like it. Let 'em stay lost.

by Anonymousreply 12November 12, 2015 8:38 PM

Another vote for Convention City, known as the Holy Grail of Pre-codes.

by Anonymousreply 13November 12, 2015 8:53 PM

The 1927 silent London After Midnight, starring Lon Chaney, and directed by Tod Browning(Dracula, Freaks).

by Anonymousreply 14November 13, 2015 4:39 AM

The Way of All Flesh with Emil Jannings, one of the two films for which he won the first Best Actor Award (once the Academy decided it really couldn't give it to Rin-Tin-Tin, supposedly the top vote getter). I've seen a few surviving clips, which show Jannings at his pre-Nazi height. I've heard it is the only Academy Award winning performance "lost" to history. He was a great actor--too bad he turned out to be one of Hitler's favorites.

by Anonymousreply 15November 13, 2015 5:11 AM

The original "Gentlemen Prefer Blondes".

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by Anonymousreply 16November 13, 2015 5:50 AM

The first filmed version of "The Great Gatsby"; only the one-minute trailer exists (that's a young William Powell as Wilson).

Fitzgerald reportedly hated the film, and he and Zelda made a big show of walking out of the theater mid-screening.

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by Anonymousreply 17November 13, 2015 6:29 AM

[quote] Since when is the Soap Opera "Secret Storm" a lost film?

Since CBS erased the original tapes and a kinescope has yet to surface.

by Anonymousreply 18November 13, 2015 8:57 AM

[quote]The Way of All Flesh with Emil Jannings

Good one, I'd love to see that, too.

Also would love to see the first Great Gatsby, but apparently F Scott didn't like it any more than the 1922 The Beautiful and the Damned. His work doesn't seem suited to silent film anyway, though if the art deco treatment were applied to Great Gatsby (think the 1921 version of Camille with Alla Nazimova) it could be brilliant. I don't think we have enough footage or stills to really know what the art direction was like, though.

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by Anonymousreply 19November 13, 2015 9:21 AM

Yet another vote for "Convention City".

by Anonymousreply 20November 21, 2015 8:10 AM

I ache for London After Midnight.

by Anonymousreply 21November 21, 2015 8:38 AM

Is that collector who supposedly owns the complete Garland Star is Born still alive?

by Anonymousreply 22November 21, 2015 9:42 AM

Sorry, but The Day the Clown Cried OWNS this thread. Jerry Lewis has been so desperate to keep it under wraps that it MUST BE SEEN.

by Anonymousreply 23November 21, 2015 12:09 PM

A Star is Born was released in 1954, not 1950.

by Anonymousreply 24November 21, 2015 12:39 PM

[quote] Half them lost films is with darkies being beaten by white folk and they like it. Let 'em stay lost.

But that's my favorite scene in the Secret Storm, when Joan beats the darkie for holding the cue cards too damned low!

by Anonymousreply 25November 21, 2015 1:13 PM

These are legit films.

There is a lot of lost porn from the 70's including the film Cheese, where only a trailer exists. I would love to find all the missing 70's porn. Bad acting turns me on.

by Anonymousreply 26November 21, 2015 1:47 PM

The full length Greed was literally destroyed on Thalberg's say so after the press showing.

It was the only print to ever exist so it's not going to show up in somebody's attic in Sweden.

The two hours that remain show that it was possibly the greatest American film ever made.

Votes for Madame Sans Gene and Convention City both of which just might exist somewhere.

Just saw Tol'able David from 1921 at MOMA in a very good print. Funny how some films survive and others don't.

by Anonymousreply 27November 21, 2015 7:57 PM

The original [italic]Lost Horizon[/italic] from 1937 has 7 minutes of footage missing, although the entire soundtrack was salvaged as part of a 13-year restoration project by the AFI. The missing footage had to be replaced with publicity stills of the actors or still shots of particular scenes.

by Anonymousreply 28November 21, 2015 8:04 PM

The Divine Woman, the only lost Garbo film.

by Anonymousreply 29November 21, 2015 8:16 PM

Jealousy with Fredric March and Jeanne Eagels.

by Anonymousreply 30November 21, 2015 8:27 PM

Any film where G doesn't suck should be found.

by Anonymousreply 31November 21, 2015 8:32 PM

Dawson's 49-Load Weekend

by Anonymousreply 32November 21, 2015 8:32 PM

[quote]Original “A Star is Born” (1950)

The original "A Star is Born" was made WELL before 1950.

by Anonymousreply 33November 21, 2015 8:33 PM

There's so many I want to see. Here's a few:

London After Midnight Tower of Lies Treasure Island The Chinese Parrot The Lotus Eater Where the Pavement Ends The Snob Way of All Flesh Wife of the Centaur Any John Ford lost movie

by Anonymousreply 34November 21, 2015 8:52 PM

R22

If he is not, no one has come forward with his copy.

Does anyone know if Warner Bros still plan on to charging him or whoever currently owns it for theft if it turns up?

by Anonymousreply 35November 21, 2015 9:49 PM

There were a lot of old films (mostly Quota Quickies) found somewhere in Britain a few years ago? Were there no "lost" films? Or just forgotten films?

by Anonymousreply 36November 21, 2015 11:19 PM

Supposedly the missing beginning of A Night at the Opera(1935) turned up in an Eastern European archive a few years ago, and Warner has promised to restore it for Blu-ray.

by Anonymousreply 37November 21, 2015 11:38 PM

Catch My Soul isn't lost.

Lost film I wish could be found would be the missing reels of Keaton's The Cameraman.

by Anonymousreply 38November 21, 2015 11:53 PM

The long-lost 1916 Sherlock Holmes movie has just been released and is reviewed in the Sunday NY Times.

by Anonymousreply 39December 7, 2015 9:54 PM

There are 20 minutes missing from The Bride of Frankenstein that were deleted after a preview. It was an extended subplot about one of the minor characters(played by Dwight Frye) in which he uses the Monster as a convenient excuse to off his relatives. Supposedly it slowed the pace, so it was cut. I would love to see those scenes turn up eventually.

by Anonymousreply 40December 7, 2015 10:41 PM

R15 I saw The Last Command in Vhs years ago the other film Jannings won the Oscar for years ago. I think the second best actor winner Warner Baxter In Old Arizona is lost too. Never been released even on Vhs.

by Anonymousreply 41December 7, 2015 11:54 PM

In Old Arizona is not lost. I saw it on TCM years ago. It was creaky, to say the least.

by Anonymousreply 42December 8, 2015 12:47 AM

Rock & Roll Hotel exists in a terrible print that made a small US tour a few years ago. I saw it at Cinefamily in LA. It was stupid shit and wasn't even in the "so bad it's good" category. Just painful to sit through.

by Anonymousreply 43December 8, 2015 12:52 AM

The ABC-TV 1968 production of "Laura" that starred Lee Radziwill in the title role, with Arlene Francis, Robert Stack, George Sanders and Farley Granger also in the cast.

It aired once and received high ratings because of Radziwill, but remains lost, or at least hidden.

by Anonymousreply 44December 8, 2015 12:54 AM

Angela's 'Mame.'

It has to exist in some attic in Sweden.

by Anonymousreply 45December 8, 2015 8:41 PM

[quote]Angela's 'Mame.' It has to exist in some attic in Sweden.

Or Ken Mandelbaum's cubbyhole.

by Anonymousreply 46December 8, 2015 9:27 PM

"Trent's Last Case" (1929) is incomplete, not entirely lost. Raymond Griffith, Anita Garvin, Marceline Day... and Rondo Hatton!

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by Anonymousreply 47June 5, 2019 5:53 AM

r39 I saw that 1916 "Sherlock Holmes" film. Dennis James was at the Wurlitzer. William Gillette was a lousy director, but he was better at playing Sherlock than many other actors.

by Anonymousreply 48June 5, 2019 5:55 AM

Not so much lost films but lost footage.

The lost footage from Cruising.

The musical version of "I'll Do Anything".

The alternate ending of Sliver, which is completely different.

by Anonymousreply 49June 5, 2019 6:04 AM

Yongary, Monster of the Deep (1967)

It's a Korean imitation Godzilla film.

The original Korean version was destroyed and no prints have been found. It can only be seen in the American release which was cut and dubbed in English.

by Anonymousreply 50June 5, 2019 6:56 AM

The Wife (did they even send out screeners?)

by Anonymousreply 51June 5, 2019 7:37 AM

-M is a fetid cunt

by Anonymousreply 52June 5, 2019 11:56 AM

Haven't they found nearly all of the 1954 A Star Is Born? My DVD is only missing something like 10 minutes.

by Anonymousreply 53June 5, 2019 1:26 PM

I've been searching for some Crawford silent films (like the original "Rose Marie") which according to IMDb are lost. Only a handful of her silents exist and have been released. "Broadway Nights" (1927), which features both Sylvia Sidney and Barbara Stanwyck, is also "gone with the wind" (the only Stanwyck film not to be available), and a 1931 Universal film called "Seed", which features Bette Davis, has yet to turn up anywhere.

Only the audio track exists for "Gold Diggers on Broadway" (1929) although more fragments of the film have turned up. "No No Nanette" & "Hit the Deck", of early sound musicals, and the original "Kismet", with Otis Skinner and Loretta Young.

by Anonymousreply 54June 5, 2019 1:37 PM

A complete Technicolor print of "Gold Diggers of Broadway" and a Technicolor "Sally" with Marilyn Miller, which only exist in dim black and white.

Fox Movietone Follies of 1929 with the jaw-dropping "Pearl of Old Japan" underwater ballet. These two color frames in the Library of Congress is the only thing that survives.

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by Anonymousreply 55June 5, 2019 1:48 PM

"Him", the gay Jesus porno from 1974.

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by Anonymousreply 56June 5, 2019 1:55 PM

[quote]The original "A Star is Born" was made WELL before 1950.

It sure was, but not by you, Jan.

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by Anonymousreply 57June 5, 2019 3:36 PM

The only sound Marie Dressler film I have never seen is "Christopher Bean" based upon the play "The Lost CB". I do not recall ever seeing this on TCM and cannot find information on its availability anywhere. Is it perhaps held up because of copyright issues (like 1932's "Letty Lynton", which has been discovered) and therefore unavailable for TV broadcast/re-release, or completely vanished?

by Anonymousreply 58June 6, 2019 5:45 PM

All the deleted Gone with the wind footage.

by Anonymousreply 59June 6, 2019 7:55 PM

Some of the Arbuckle shorts with Keaton are lost, I believe, along with those reels from the Cameraman.

Some of you may be interested in the attached event.

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by Anonymousreply 60June 6, 2019 7:58 PM

Has anyone ever seen The Trial of Mary Dugan, Norma Shearer's talking debut? I don't think it's ever been shown on TCM.

by Anonymousreply 61June 6, 2019 8:07 PM
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