Biden to enter Presidential Race!!!!!

If he enters the race, Hillary will slice his balls off.

And don't forget this:

Hillary isn't that tough.

Not yet. Pipe down, OP.

He has no major policy differences from Hillary Clinton. He's a little more dovish, but that's about it.

It seems that his camp believes he can use union support as his starting base, but that's not a sure thing. He will undoubtedly be speaking in favor of the TPP (since it's an administration initiative), but the unions knows that the deal is just another NAFTA, aka a boon to corporations and a finger in the eye of all working Americans. Hillary has come out against the TPP, smartly, so as to distance herself from her husband's NAFTA con job.

I just don't get the rationale for his running. Look for Hillary to bring up the ghosts of the Anita Hill hearings.

[quote]I just don't get the rationale for his running.

Because Obama hates Hillary and wants to knock her out of the race.

Poor Joe.

You don't fuck with the Clintons.

No, R6, [italic]they[/italic] don't fuck with [italic]me[/italic]!!

OP, it's still speculative at this point. My money is on no run.

His greatest asset is that he is not Hillary.

Did you see that long "draft Biden" ad?

It is not fair. It is my turn. I put up with Bill and his dirty penis for decades! I deserve a reward.

Biden is announcing this week and will time his announcement to bigfoot Hillary's appearance before the Benghazi Select Committee.

Just a hunch.

[quote]I put up with Bill and his dirty penis for decades! I deserve a reward.

I know all about dirty penises.

Biden acts more like a drama queen than the mistress of ceremonies at show time in an Atlanta drag bar.

Biden has balls?

That statement is not to be believed without pictures.

Oh god, I hope he doesn't run. Just this back and forth, will he or won't he, has gotten to the point where I feel embarrassed for him. He hurts the party if he runs. He's weak, out of touch, and has been a party to all of Obama's failures, including failed military actions and stagnating wages. His time as VP has done nothing to convince me he would make a good president. He's tired whereas Clinton and Bernie represent something new and fresh in one way or another.

Sigh.

I think, in a weird way, his running would be good for Hillary. It will give her someone actually to square off against in the primaries so in the general, it will feel as though she earned it.

This will end in tears (for Joe).

[quote] It will give her someone actually to square off against in the primaries so in the general, it will feel as though she earned it.

What am I? Chopped livah?

If he does run, I don't think the race gets that different. Bernie supporters are sticking with him and now Hillary's supporters are much more dedicated after her commanding debate performance. I do think it will end rather badly for Joe, I like him, but it's time to get a nice house in Sarasota.

He was stupid to wait so long if he's really running (and despite the sensational headline, there's no clear indication he is).

How often will he use his dead son on the campaign?

He's ruining any chances he has with this ridiculous grandstanding. Not a lot of people cared to begin with, but these publicity seeking stunts are overshadowing any goodwill he had with the Obama administration.

And hasn't he run enough times already? What is this, number ten?

This will end in President Trump

It's bad for Joe. He'll be known as the first sitting vice-president to lose a major party nomination in the modern age. For all the talk of how much people like him, he's a terrible campaigner for the presidency. He flamed out in 1988 and 2008, making cracks about Indians running 7-11s in the most recent one and never even coming close to penetrating the top tier of candidates (Obama, Clinton, Edwards). I consider his likability a warning sign, not an asset. If everyone likes a politician but no one bothers to vote for him, something is very, very wrong.

He was made for the vice-presidency because he's a sidekick, not a leading man. Joe Biden is the Sean Hayes of Democratic politics.

My family got smeared across the asphalt! Vote for me!

[quote]He flamed out in 1988 and 2008 ] As did Hillary in 2012

Bill jizzed on a blue dress wich made me sympathetic and I became Senator!!!! Now President!!!

Christ. Old and OLDER.

No one's going to show shock! horror! at R26???

[quote]As did Hillary in 2012

Hillary didn't run in 2012, you dumb fuck.

Biden = Jim Webb. He's extremely conservative on policy.

Joe Biden is the reason why we have Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court.

Lack of enthusiasm for Biden in focus groups

Top Talkers: Democratic voters aren't sure of a Joe Biden White House, according to the latest Bloomberg focus groups in NH and Iowa.

Joe is viewed the same as Dan Quayle was by the American electorate: a clown.

He's a lot more serious and experienced than that idiot Dan Quayle but it doesn't matter. He's not running.

This is just another 'how can I fuck with Hillary today' thread from our resident Rethuglicunt anti-Hillary troll.

*yawn*

See you in DC in January 2017, when we inaugurate Hillary Clinton as President of the United States.

Can someone please summarize why Pres Obama dislikes Hillary Clinton?

The FBI will take care of Hillary.

People say it's because of the primary battles. Both camps threw some pretty hard punches. They got over it and went on to work together because they're grown-ups. Hillary and Obama don't hate each other.

[quote]Joe Biden is the reason why we have Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court.

You know, Biden voted against confirming him, but don't let facts stand in the way.

I'm doing this for BEAU.

"Joe Biden's Forgotten Disgrace"

The vice president discounted Anita Hill's accusations of sexual harassment against Clarence Thomas.

I know, I know, everyone loves Joe with the winning grin. Everyone but me with the long memory.

By Joe I mean Joseph R. Biden Jr., the affable vice president, who will be 74 if sworn in as president on Jan. 20, 2017. It's a safe bet Clarence Thomas will still be kicking around this town then. They are forever locked in as the principal male characters in Washington's watershed drama on sexual harassment. The Thomas Supreme Court confirmation hearing riveted the nation in the fall of 1991. (Thanks, George H.W. Bush.) Did Thomas intimidate Biden into cutting the hearing short without calling further witnesses?

It's hard to know, but the reason Thomas is sitting silently on the Supreme Court – for 22 years and counting – can be traced back to Biden. If you've seen the new documentary, "Anita," it jogs your memory clearly and cleanly regarding what went down. Of all the Senate Democrats, Biden failed most miserably. The close 52 to 48 vote might have broken differently if he had displayed grit under fire.

Jill Abramson and Jane Mayer, authors of "Strange Justice," note Biden was pleased with his "highly unusual exposure rate" after it was all over. Sorry, but Biden is a bit too easily flattered and fooled.

The Senate Judiciary Committee hearing was a searing experience building to a crescendo over several days. As chairman, Biden virtually handed the gavel to Thomas at a critical point. He allowed three senators – Orrin Hatch, Alan Simpson and the late Arlen Spector – to viciously besmirch Anita Hill, a painstakingly proper law professor who came forward to testify that Thomas had sexually harassed her with lewd language and social invitations as her boss at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

In the documentary, Hill emerges content with a new lease of life, with no regrets about telling her truth. As the documentary points out, it became a question of her character on trial, when Thomas was the subject of the hearing and often out of the room. When he came back, he furiously declared the hearing a "high tech lynching," a statement that rocked the row of senators into silence. Of course, even if it was wrong, this hostility packed quite a punch.

The coup de grace was accompanied by Biden's nervous assurances: "You have the benefit of the doubt, Judge." There was no legal precedent for such a claim on truth or guilt in a Supreme Court hearing. But Biden kept saying that fateful phrase on national television. The late Sen. Robert C. Byrd challenged Biden publicly by saying the country should have the benefit of the doubt. Byrd was a lone voice in the wind, which was blowing Thomas's way.

For the record, not many who voted for Thomas remain in the Senate. But if just a few had had the courage to vote against their party, taking Hill at her word, we might not have to endure endless extremism from one of the justices on the highest court.

The group includes Republican Sens. Dan Coats, Thad Cochran, Charles Grassley, John McCain, Orrin Hatch, Mitch McConnell and Richard Shelby. If I see them in the halls, I'll be sure to tell them about "Anita." Maybe their minds have moved on Thomas over the years, but somehow I doubt it.

BREAKING: washed-up porn actor / noted political commentator Ben Andrews advises Biden not to run. His thick 10-inch dick had no comment.

R40, Biden chaired that committee. He voted against confirmation after he had ensured that Thomas would, in fact, be confirmed. There were witnesses waiting to testify who were sidelined by Biden. The whole think was a mess and it was down to the way Biden ran the confirmation hearings.

*whole thing

Biden is Hillary with a dick.

His conduct during the Anita Hill hearings will forever be Biden's legacy. It foisted Justice Thomas upon the nation, resulting in the biggest ideological swing of any Supreme Court seat in modern history. (Don't forget that Thomas was replacing Thurgood Marshall.)

Any good he has done in his role as VP will be overshadowed in history by this one very consequential event. His service under Obama won't be remembered. All of that legacy goes to the President. It's sad, cause I generally like the guy, but history can be cruel that way.

The only way he escapes Hill/Thomas being his legacy is by becoming President himself. But it ain't gonna happen.

There will be such an outpouring of relief if this happens, the quibbles with Joe's positions will be brushed away.

Losing a child can win you the presidency ?

Bring me Tiffany ....

I wonder if he called his own Deep Throat at the FBI and asked, okay what have you got on her so far, in those damn emails? Got an answer, and then said, "I'm running for President!"

He's not running. There's nothing in the fucking investigated-to-death emails. Hillary is the next POTUS. Deal with it.

Then why is he dragging this out...?

He's being deployed as a red herring.

If the Benghazi committee doesn't see Hillary as the definite Democratic nominee, they'll be a mite less bloodthirsty.

You forget. The FBI is doing their own investigation of those emails. And they don't go fast nor comment as they go along.

Oh please. Hillary has a much longer record of smearing women. Why she even got a child rapist out of jail.

R54, there's nothing in the emails. The FBI doesn't have anything, nor will they have anything. This Benghazi bullshit is nothing but Rethuglican trash-talking in an election cycle. Anyone who focuses on it is a shit-stirring Rethuglican asshole. Democrats know there's nothing. Bernie knows there's nothing. It's only Rethuglicans who won't let it go. Cunts.

THey have plenty. They call her a lesbian. They say she took millions in campaign contributions for the Senate that she never reported. THey have plenty.

All they have to do is replay her thousands of lies over and over.

They have nothing. She's going to be the next president of the United States. No one cares if Rethuglicans don't like it.

Rightfully so , Biden, Obama, oh hell,90% of Americans for that matter; DO NOT TRUST HILLARY !! #Hillarythelyingcommunist

Hillary's a communist? We can see that R60 is completely unhinged.

Moving on.

We'll see...CLINTON still will WIN!

Biden could risk doing what Ted Kennedy did to Carter. And if Obama publicly supported the candidate who helped a Republican to enter office, you can pretty much kiss whatever good legacy he has maintained goodbye as well.

Plus the way Biden is handling shows he doesn't have a clue as to what he's doing this time out. Obama needs to really think about this should his VP announce running.

The President's no fool. He knows Biden's not getting in and he's not pissing off any voters by endorsing Hillary too early.

[quote] Because Obama hates Hillary and wants to knock her out of the race.

Seriously what a pack of back stabbing bastards. Fuck 'em. Fuck em right up the ass.

They should be pulling behind Hillary and supporting her. This is not the time for empty male egos.

Personally I think it will help her but it's unnecessarily devisive.

R65, it's a Rethuglican fantasy. The President and the Vice President are not plotting against Hillary. Calm the fuck down and look at things rationally.

R64 EXACTLY!

Huma's gonna get a lickin' tonight.

"You don't fuck with the Clintons".

Amen to that . . .

R68 what does that mean explain please?

with the cast of Hamilton

I seem to remember him supporting Condi Rice. Does anyone remember? Was it about her ignoring the 9/11 memo?

That Hillary dyke is a communist and I'm as unhinged as your anal sphincter is loose.

His son Beau must have contacted him from the dead to make this happen.

BECAUSE OF THIS BULLSHIT HE'S PULLED IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS I WILL NOT VOTE FOR HIM!

EVER!

Yeah, well all I have to say is "Uncle Joe" is not an honorable man. If he runs he will forever soil his legacy. He carried the Anita Hill hearings like an albatross around his neck for years until Obama saved his ass as a favor to John Kerry and Ted Kennedy. He could've left office as a triumphant partner in the historic Presidency of Barack Obama. Instead he will leave as a loser who divided his party, betrayed his political word, and acted as a spoiler for the GOP. Because the only way he can gain any ground is to go after Hillary.

Need I remind you that Hillary campaigned her ass off for the ticket in 2008, she worked hard, and stayed out of the limelight as Secretary of State, and even Bill Clinton honored his agreement with Obama by staying quiet while his wife served. In 2012, there was a very close re-election campaign, and again Bill Clinton to the rescue, campaigning for Obama and Biden, and electrifying the Convention with his speech. So the Clintons are owed.

I just don't get this meme that they are untrustworthy and unlikeable. They are always stepping up to help the party, campaigning and fundraising, and do their due diligence. If Biden runs it's stabbbing them in the back. It means his word is no good. I always felt like there was something sly and underhanded about Biden underneath that affability.

If he wants to do the right thing for the sake of the party, he needs to endorse Hillary and help her campaign.Inspite of all the protestations to the contrary, Biden is a consummate politician, very ambitious, but he has never been very smart. His reach has always exceeded his grasp. And as an example of how ambitious and craven he is, he has used his son's death, and his grief as a springboard. Well if he jumps in this thing, all that goodwill goes out the window.

Why would he even entertain running when his numbers have him so low and far behind both Clinton and Sanders?

R77 Exactly we know that and he knows that and HILLARY knows that ;)

Joe should have made this decision months ago. I'm still supporting Hillary.

Me too. Joe ran for President twice and no one cared. He had to drop out. His destiny was never to be president. He should be graceful. I'm sure there will be other ways for him to serve. If he does announce that he's running, and he invokes hisdead son and makes his speech about Beau, it'll turn my stomach.I mean is nothing sacred? Do politicians have to use every event in their lives to advance their political ambitions? I heard somewhere that he was the one who leaked the "beau wanted me to run" as he laid on his deathbed, etc." to Maureen Dowd who is a world class Hillary hater. I'm going to stickwith Hillary, and I'll bet there will be a lot of people who will be really pissed off at him if he runs.

Seems to me a lot of dicks don't want to see a woman elected President. Trey Gowdy and Joe Biden are cut from the same cloth. Don't believe me go watch the Anita Hill testimony at Clarence Thomas's confirmation hearings.

Vote For Me!

Vote For Me!

The "Vote for Me!!!" Biden Troll is incredible, more please!!!! I haven't laughed this hard in months!!!

I pray this isn't true. Total waste of everyone's time.

Joe Biden will run for president and make a fool of himself and the party. He's already off to his typical tone-deaf start:

[quote]Speaking about at the White House Summit on Climate Change on Monday, Biden appeared to draw a contrast between himself and Clinton. He said he didn't "consider Republicans enemies" when discussing cooperation between himself and Rep. Darrell Issa (R-California), the former chair of the House Oversight Committee. "Darrell Issa, not a Republican friend of mine, he's a friend. I don't consider Republicans enemies, they're friends," Biden said, while discussing the implementation of the 2009 stimulus. "Even Darrell Issa said that this is how every government program should be administered."

Did you catch that? Joe Biden just complimented DARRELL FUCKING ISSA! Out of touch is even the half of it. Democrats don' t have to float that old chestnut "reaching across the aisles" to win election any more, so SHUT UP! How can Mr Biden still be so clueless about the Republican's scorched earth anti-Democratic agenda?

He's too old. He's too dumb. Though I bet Obama wants him to run and lose. Presidents hate to be succeeded by someone from the same party. If you look at the "Presidents' Club", Presidents from the same party never become friends.

Nope Biden

Joe Biden, speaking at the White House Summit on Climate Change on Monday

[quote]"By the way, I'm not one of the guys, you know, 'Let's go after the rich and the powerful and they're the problem.' They're not a problem, but everybody has to do their part, man," Biden said.

Well now we know. Joe will use the Rodney King strategy. The "Hey can't we all just get along" strategy. Right. Tell you what. It'll take five seconds for Hillary to become more conciliatory and less combative. But Joe is a fucking hypocrite if he thinks his love and vooperation pitch will cause me to ignore the fact that he is running to chastise Hillary, undermine her, divide the party and act as a spoiler. Fuck him and his sideways tactics.Joe can afford to be Mr Nice Guy. No one has ever fucked with him the way they fucked with Hillary. Or Obama for that matter. Darryl Issa is a flaming asshole. He's vicious and vindictive, and I'm surprised Joe doesn't just gag on his own words. So now we are getting St. Joe. He will run his campaign like an evangelist of Peace. Riiiggght.

There's and Aerosmith song for that.

Biden is too old. He missed his chance. And even thinking that he's too old, I feel that if Biden wanted to run for president, he should have announced his intentions months and months ago. He didn't and he blew it. And the drama that's been going on for weeks including his son, Beau, urging him to run from his death bed is embarrassing.

In 2016--Hillary is the one.

Don't Run Joe. Don't.

What R24 said.

The very idea of Joe Biden running for president is exactly what is wrong with the Democratic Party. How will his candidacy energize and excite younger voters?

Rosie O I mean OP (sorry about that). How's Chelsea doing anyways?

Dr. Jill has been whispering in your ear. Secretly she hates both Michelle AND HRC.

She wants to be the next Nancy Reagan. That is all.

R92 Biden is 5 years older than your Hillary.

I think President Obama is propping up Joe Biden . He doesn't like Hillary . Anyway I like Biden much more than Hillary and Sanders so I will be voting for him in the primary

[quote]The very idea of Joe Biden running for president is exactly what is wrong with the Democratic Party. How will his candidacy energize and excite younger voters?

By convincing voters of all ages that a vote for Biden is a vote for a third term for Obama.

R98 Sorry. No one's buying that. His poll numbers are plummeting as we speak.

Several focus groups emphatically made it clear it's too late and they will NOT be voting for the Vice President.

[quote]Need I remind you that Hillary campaigned her ass off for the ticket in 2008, she worked hard, and stayed out of the limelight as Secretary of State, and even Bill Clinton honored his agreement with Obama by staying quiet while his wife served. In 2012, there was a very close re-election campaign, and again Bill Clinton to the rescue, campaigning for Obama and Biden, and electrifying the Convention with his speech. So the Clintons are owed.

Well, no one is "owed" anything in politics. It's a nasty game, and Hillary got racist when she got desperate back in 2008. I'm not saying she shouldn't be president -- I will vote for her, no question -- but if Obama is busting her balls a little bit right now, that's okay. She deserves it.

If he or Biden decide to take her on by opposing her and endorsing someone else (or, in Biden's case, running against her) then that will be out of line.

EGO!

Biden has always been a wolf in sheep's clothing. He is a toady for the corporations. 63% of all Fortune 500 companies are incorporated in Delaware, the state he represented in the Senate. He's a faux-friend of the working man.

So is Hillary, yes, but at least her campaign rhetoric suggests a shift towards the light. Biden's comments on Monday were gross.

300 million people in the US, and all the Dems can scrape together as potential Prez are a couple of old dicks and an old cunt?

"but if Obama is busting her balls a little bit right now, that's okay. She deserves it."

Why? She's been a loyal supporter of his since he made her Secretary of State.

J'adore Uncle Joe, but ... no.

R97 NOPE Nada No it ain't happening BIDEN will NOT run...It's all about HILLARY!

This reminds me of 2008, when people were dead sure Al Gore was going to announce his candidacy sometime in the next fifteen minutes.

If Biden ran than Obama would be obligated to support him. And Hillary would beat the shit out of Obama.

[quote]And Hillary would beat the shit out of Obama.

I will pay to see that

How many brain surgeries has Joe had? He ain't all together.

[quote]It's a nasty game, and Hillary got racist when she got desperate back in 2008.

No she didn't. Take that sjw crap elsewhere.

Wrong R108. Obama doesn't have to endorse anyone in the primaries.

Hillary gets her "distrustful" reputation because Republicans have been successful in making her seem guilty of something, even though 30-years' of their tax-payer funded investigations have found nothing illegal that she's done. There is a real crime here, and it's the tens of millions used to investigate the Clintons, for partisan purposes. The Republican congress people ought to be in jail.

What does Obama have against Hillary ?

Nothing, R114, it's wishful thinking on the part of Rethuglicans.

[quote]but if Obama is busting her balls a little bit right now, that's okay. She deserves it.

Why does she deserve it? Obama got the Presidency and two terms. Hillary served as SOS under his tenure and did a good job for him. If that's true, then it only shows him to be extremely thin skinned. With only his own party, of course. He would never do such things to a Republican.

Calm down, OP! Biden is still biding his time!

Biden = 4 more years of Obama

Hillary will now be forced to run against Obama/Biden

Which puts her between a rock and hard place.

Where does she fit between Sanders and Biden? Or does she run to right of Biden?

Hillary = A return to peace & prosperity of the Clinton years! Yay! Nothing could be better!

Biden's not running so it doesn't matter, R118.

Hillary would most likely be impeached in her first term. The Republicans are obsessed with fishing for any scandal they can find about her, and the ethically-challenged Hillary makes it easy for them.

R121, At one time the scandal surrounding Jeffrey Epstein threatened to take down Bill Clinton's rep and by association Hillary. Guess The Royal Family made that idea disappear.

Hillary isn't prepared for what Valerie Jarrett is planning for her, they've been waiting since 2007 to end her, once and for all. This is going to be stunning, Obama women versus Bill's bride. Gonna be SO nasty.

This is some weird Rethuglican pipe dream. Hillary's not going to be impeached, Valerie Jarrett isn't "after" her. The President isn't "after" her. Biden's not running.

They have to do this to divert attention away from Trump and Carson, the loony leaders of the Rethuglican Party these days.

Now Biden is saying he was for the Bin Laudin raid - when clearly, by his own words, he wasn't.

"Hillary gets her "distrustful" reputation because Republicans have been successful in making her seem guilty of something, even though 30-years' of their tax-payer funded investigations have found nothing illegal that she's done. There is a real crime here, and it's the tens of millions used to investigate the Clintons, for partisan purposes. The Republican congress people ought to be in jail."

THANK YOU! i'm always shocked at how many of my liberal friends say " i just don't trust her" because of the partisan witch hunt. if anything it makes me trust her more knowing that 30 years of investigation have turned up absolutely nothing-nada-zilch! except we now know her husband is a horn dog. big whoop. i doubt any other public figure could survive the level of scrutiny she's been put under. she's vetted and ready!

[quote]Or does she run to right of Biden?

Biden is a Blue Dog, hon. You do realize he's a Right-winger, right?

Backed by unions? What are unions?

Jeb Bush was connected to the Epstein thing as well. “And it was Jeb Bush’s administration and his Attorney General and successor, Charlie Crist, that first entered into negotiations with Epstein’s lawyers, who included Dershowitz, Miami celebrity lawyer Roy Black, and Bill Clinton special prosecutor Kenneth Starr, to guarantee Epstein a 13-month house arrest sentence. Governor Bush and his brother’s Justice Department also helped craft a ‘Non Prosecution Agreement’ (NPA) with Epstein’s legal team. The NPA ensured that there would be no future federal charges brought against Epstein or any of his “co-conspirators.

100% he is running.

Vote for Me!!

He's beginning to think he's like Trump and can say he didn't say whatever....

Biden's insatiable ego will be his downfall.

Seriously, what the fuck has he done as vice president that anyone should think he'd be a great president?

[quote] Hillary got racist

Please. Link.

Keep yer shirt on, OP! Not yet, not yet!

What the fuck has Hillary done that would lead anyone to believe she'd be a good president?

Seriously, what the fuck has he done as vice president that anyone should think he'd be a great president? He oversaw the Recovery Act. What did Hillary do as SOS? Her legacy is a war-torn Syria, and a home email server.

Biden's insatiable ego will be his downfall. Joe, the wishy-washy one, is insatiable? Hillary has been prepping her run for the White House since her husband's 2nd term in office. Her entire political CAREER was constructed with the first female POTUS objective always in mind. Her biggest mistake was not running in 04 against Bush. She stupidly decided to wait it out so that her committment to NY would not be questioned. She should have ran while she was a junior senator!

Biden clearly enjoys jerking around .

R31! !!!!!

R134 Nada that's why we need Hillary and it will be HILLARY as POTUS!

Holy shit! Joe Biden is not fit to be president. Case closed.

[quote]"I actually like Dick Cheney, for real," he said. "I think he’s a decent man."

Agree R143. That's a WTF moment.

Laughing and pointing at OP!

Biden just made his announcement: he isn't running after all.

Go to your favorite news website for details.

And why the fuck did he have to wait so long to announce this?

r143.......thats called pandering to the republicans to get their support if he did choose to run.

R147 - the election if over a year away.

Not running

[bold] Joe Biden Announces He Will Not Run for President [/bold]

As much as I like Joe, he made the right decision. Always go out on top of your game.

Question: Has there been a VP to serve their President as well as Joe Biden? I perceive a mentoring relationship between Obama and Biden. A lot of mutual respect and each understanding their place and role.

Joe has plenty of life and future contribution potential to carve out for himself and for the American people.

I have nothing but respect & gratitude to the VP for all he has done for this country & the LGBT community.

When he leaves office, he should have an executive position at the American Cancer Society. He would be perfect for something like that.

I just wish him well.

I'm glad he said no. He could have been a good president, but this was not the time. Maybe he should have run against GWB

If only, r153. Maybe a different world than we have today.

yeah, R154

Hillary Clinton ‏@HillaryClinton 1 minute ago .@VP is a good friend and a great man. Today and always, inspired by his optimism and commitment to change the world for the better. -H

Yeah

No... not running

[quote]Hillary Clinton ‏@HillaryClinton 1 minute ago .@VP is a good friend and a great man. Today and always, inspired by his optimism and commitment to change the world for the better. -H

In other words, "You tried it. I ate your nuts. Bye Felicia."

Message for you, OP:

The Clinton's got to him. They have something on Joe and just before he was going to announce, they sent over a little message reminding him what they have.

No, R160, you paranoid moron, as I have said over and over and over for weeks now - Joe was never going to run. All that talk was just that - talk. He likes to talk, as we all know. It didn't require any sort of nefarious threats to get him to bow out. He's an old man with a recently deceased son who needs to retire after eight successful years as VP and be Grandpa Joe.

He was never going to run. Never.

Why has no one commented on Biden dropping out of the race? Or maybe Datalounge just won't let me see the newest replies.

He claims now he advised the president to proceed with the mission that got OBL.

However, Obama said a long time ago that Biden was skeptical and advised not to proceed. HRC told him to go for it.

So he's a liar.

And wasn't there a BI a while back about a politician who liked barely legal girls "biding" his time...?

there is another thread about it, R162

Thanks R164, but Datalounge actually was hiding the newest comments from me, making it appear that no one had posted about Biden dropping out. It does that sometimes.

He needs to go raise funds for cancer research. That's how you honor your son. And he gets to talk about it all he wants. Win, win.

Hogwash, this is a brilliant chess move...listen to that speech, snip off the first few lines, and it's fairly a full on presidential bid launch. This isn't over yet...

[quote]Question: Has there been a VP to serve their President as well as Joe Biden?

This is a joke, right? With the number of times Biden publicly disagreed with the Obama administration? Who needed Republicans when your own Vice President takes to criticizing you in public?

You do realize there's a reason why he hasn't done much of anything in the last couple of years. It's because of all the cleaning up Barack had to do in the first few.

Is the OP Bill Kristol? This Sunday he and his weasely little smirk was going on and on about how Biden was going to jump in and it would be Hillary's demise. How does someone who has been so wrong about everything still have a voice in the media?

[quote] So he's a liar

Joe Biden has always been a liar and a fabulist. He even lied about his wife's accident. His So he's a liar of dishonesty goes back to law school and yet it is Hillary Clinton who gets falsely smeared with the label of dishonest and untrustworthy. Talk about an upside down world. Now he's trying to be the Brian Williams of politics.

Either there are a lot of DLers too young to remember the reality of Joe Biden or they are so old they've lost their memories.

In a way, Biden is riding HRC's coat tails. Her success as SoS was good for the administration.

[quote]And I believe that we need a moon shot in this country to cure cancer. It's personal. But I know we can do this

um, no we can't

That was such an odd speech. He seemed like he was pissed, and like he made the announcement reluctantly. He even made unnecessary snippy comments about HRC. Seems like she may have derailed his plans. Clearly, there was a plan to run being thrown out in the air otherwise all his hemming & hawing over the past few months would not have happened. That is how I know Obama kept his nose clean. Nobody in politics can vet like the Clintons.

yea right...told you so NOT!!!

I've always thought he was a harmless nitwit and I think he wanted to run and advisors told him he didn't stand a chance.

He pissed me off with his "son's dying wish". Tacky, tacky, tacky. Beyond creepy not to mention his son died of brain cancer and I don't imagine he was thinking too clearly when he died either.

R163, If that's really true do you have a link? Equal political party outing?

[quote]How does someone who has been so wrong about everything still have a voice in the media?

He's a Methodist. They run the media.

Biden's not a good campaigner and he would not run a good campaign anyway. Politic had a great article about Biden and I believe every word, because it jibes wuth what I have heard about him. If Biden had run we'd have lost. I think he's pissed, because firstm his family is still grieving and not ready for the bloodsport of a presidential campaign. He's run twice already and ran bad vampaigns. He was a shitty candidate. Seconf, he was pressured out by all the moves Hillary made in the past few weeks, as much as by other considerations. Obama's top people from 2012 were alreadt with Hillary,including David Axelrod. Think about that. Axelrod worked with Biden through two presidential campaigns and four years in the White House. Ax and Obama are truly BFFs for years rpior to the PResidency. And he's with Hillary.

But the other reason he seemed tough today, was that there were people out here who support Joe and he was talking to them. Letting them know he's still around, and will "speak out forecfully" but it's really about him not wanting to let go. He resents the fact that the numbers aren't with him and he would lose. He resents Hillary even if they are pals now and then.He wanted to be Obama's heir. Instead, Hillary is.

Interesting, R178. I wonder if you're right.

Michael Dukakis is running!