Transgender at 18 months!

Jesus fucking Christ!! .

People still think that this trans cult will not be the end of all the future gays ?

At 18 years, Lily might realize that what she is is gay. Hope she still has her penis.

Actor Peter O'Toole was raised as a girl, until he hit puberty, and he wasn't the only one.

The only difference between these people and the Crazy Paremts of Yore is that today's parents pretend they're doing the kid a favor.

Child abuse.

R3 I wonder if that had any contribution to his nasty personality, and drinking problems?

Certainly not, r5!

R1 really needs another dose of electroconvulsive therapy to slap those synapses back into line.

R6 that's breeching.

[quote] He said: 'But once we explained how far back this went and showed them pictures from aged one and a half to three to show this has been going on for a long time, they understood.'

Yes, once you showed the school that you had been dressing your infant child up in girl's clothing and acting like it was his choice, they caved.

[quote] In September, the Tavistock and Portman centre advised the parents that if she is still on the same path by the age of 11 or 12, hormone blockers will be prescribed which will stop the onset of male puberty.

Yes, please ruin your child's health and future because of a fad. You fucking cunts. Why is this not illegal????

Here comes s new way for fucked up parents to fuck up their kids.

In 10 years time we're going to see a whole lot of trans persons appearing before Judge Judy.

I'm a boy, I'm a boy

But my ma won't admit it

I'm a boy, I'm a boy

But if I say I am, I git it!

I don't see anything wrong with letting a small child dress and identify however they want, but it is hard to understand why parents attach long-term significance to a little kid's gender preference. Why not erase the binary and let kids express themselves, without emphasizing that certain interests are "male" and others "female"?

More disturbing is the fact that families construct new narratives around a "trans" preschooler, to the extent that the twin of the child mentioned in the OP's story is sad because he "lost" his brother. There's a ton of pressure on little Lily to continue living as a girl, no matter what changes in the future. Kids usually want to please their parents, and will continue to engage in any behavior the parents reinforce. What happens if Lily one day wants to go back to being Joe?

They turned a little cookie sniffer into a girl.

There are no words. As a child I too preferred to play with dolls and pots and pans than with guns and footballs. Thank god that was the 70s and I was allowed to stay a boy, go through puberty, and keep my penis.

I'm thoroughly confused. I don't understand what is going on. Are there really that many children who are truly transgender and due to more awareness and acceptance we now hear about it? Is this a matter of parents and people being more able to accept a child is transgender rather than gay? Is this simply the newest trend with parents and kids. I hope I haven't offended anyone. I've met maybe 5 adults in my life with very obvious gender identity needs/issues. Other people have been gay/lesbian, loved cross dressing or were either unusually feminine or masculine according to their gender, but their gender identity was well established. I don't get what seems like a sudden surge of children deciding they are a different gender.

18 months! This is a truly frightening story. No words.

Just so bizarre that this is becoming a way to make a child "normal" rather than endure the "abnormality" of being gay -- because, you know, that would be weird. Or a hardship even. "My child is certainly NOT gay! She was just born in the wrong body and we're getting it taken care of promptly."

Children haven't decided anything. The parents have decided it for them. It's a combination of parents not wanting gay children and a rush to jump on any hot new bandwagon so that the mothers can look cutting edge and cool and maybe get some extra buzz and a few more readers for their blogs because instead of raising their children properly, they need to find a way to take center stage.

If the McMartin trial were held today, all the children would be convinced that they are transgendered.

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To think of all those boys born boys but not allowed to be completely boys by surgically removing a great part of their penis. Why is it legal to fuck up a boy from the very beginning?

Yeah, R21. Circumcision is the same as having a sex change.

I honestly believe that some people are born transgender. However, no one can be sure at such an early age that this is the case. As a boy, I usually preferred to play with the girls. I'm glad that my parents didn't decide to whack my dick off.

I do too, R23, especially the Walter/Wendy Carlos and Dr. Renee Richards variety who go all the way and never seem to regret it. But this bizarre Caitlyn/Chaz one foot in, one foot out stuff is insane. And this stuff with kids is beyond dangerous.

R18 It's tragically fascinating, really. Western culture might superficially appear to be at a never-before-seen level of "gender equality", yet that could not be further from the truth. Now there's prostitution being empowering, pornography being empowering, gender nonconformity being medicalised, pedophile rights (not even kidding here), so of course a girl or boy who pushes the limits of what is socially acceptable for females and males (i.e. gender) is no longer their actual sex and their "condition" ought to be rectified.

It pains me tremendously knowing that the overwhelming majority of these kids would have grown up into healthy gay adults if they had simply been left alone, as proven by actual research. When even the WPATH (World Professional Association for Transgender Health) admits that childhood GID dwindles during and after puberty, you know very well that the "transing" of children cannot be called anything but child abuse and the extermination of gay people.

At least wait until the child can pronounce 'transgender'. Is it now a fad? We're going to see a very confused generation of children growing up.

R20, do you really expect us to ignore an article about a transbaby?

Most of us were GNC children. We were this close to getting our junk lopped off.

This is all kinds of wrong. The homophobia of transitioning GNC to the opposite sex is absolutely breaking my heart.

That could've been me. I am not trans. I simply reject society's sex roles. Trans and their supporters are regressive and want to go back to the 1950s.

You can't censor us. You want T to hit mainstream, and now it is. We have every right, as adult GNC children, to contribute our two cents.

[quote]Most of us were GNC children.

I'm not sure about that. Is there a statistic out there?

Enough of us were GNC (gender non-conforming) children, then, R28.

If society would simply dump established gender identity rules/constructs, the whole "transgender" insanity would end.

[quote]I don't see anything wrong with letting a small child dress and identify however they want, but it is hard to understand why parents attach long-term significance to a little kid's gender preference

The kid isn't deciding anything. He doesn't even know if he's a little boy or a little girl and what's more at that age he doesn't care. He just wants a warm bed to sleep in, food (preferably candy) to eat and lots of fun. At that age, they don't care how the fun is got, they just want it. I see kids in the park with a bucket pouring mud over their head laughing their little asses off.

I can't remember when I had that much fun.

I predict a sudden wave of suicides with these poor kids in about 15-20 years. Heartbreaking. Nothing but conversion therapy.

R28 Yes.

Social Psychology and Human Sexuality: Essential Readings. Assessment and Treatment of Childhood Problems, Second Edition: A Clinician's Guide Sexual Orientation and Psychodynamic Psychotherapy Sexual Science and Clinical Practice.

Virtually all research conducted on childhood gender-nonconformity (and even childhood GID) overwhelmingly links it to adult homosexuality. Not a single one of them has shown a remotely significant future trans identification.

R33 Formatting was messed up. For ease of reading:

Social Psychology and Human Sexuality: Essential Readings / Assessment and Treatment of Childhood Problems, Second Edition: A Clinician's Guide / Sexual Orientation and Psychodynamic Psychotherapy Sexual Science and Clinical Practice

Can parents tell if a baby is gay, too? "I knew my baby girl was a lesbian when she refused to take a bottle. Clearly, she prefers breasts."

80% of children diagnosed with GID (Gender Identity Disorder) do not continue to have GID at adolescence or adulthood.

Most children aged 5 to 12 years diagnosed as having GID (Gender Identity Disorder) do not persist in having GID as adolescents; rather, most become homosexual or bisexual adolescents and adults.

It is currently not possible to differentiate between preadolescent children in whom GID will persist and those in whom it will not.

The outcome of childhood GID without treatment is that only a minority will identify as transsexual or transgender in adulthood (a phenomenon termed persistence), while the majority will become comfortable with their natal gender over time (a phenomenon termed desistence).

Gender variance in childhood does not require any medical interventions such as hormone therapy or surgical procedures. Rather, children need information and support in exploring their gender identity and expression and dealing with sociocultural environments that are frequently hostile to gender variance.

It is impossible to reliably distinguish between a gender-variant child who will grow up to become trans and a gender-variant child who will grow up to be gay, lesbian, or bisexual, but not trans. As such, by conflating gender variance and sexual orientation, the proposed GIC category amounts to a re-pathologization of homosexuality.

Green’s prospective study of gender-variant boys (1987) followed into adolescence and young adulthood found that 75% of those who could be reassessed had developed a gay or bisexual orientation, and only one was primarily transsexual. Subsequent studies of girls and boys have continued to find that the majority of gender-variant children grow up to have a homosexual or bisexual orientation rather than identify as transsexual.

Most children with gender dysphoria will not remain gender dysphoric after puberty. Children with persistent GID are characterized by more extreme gender dysphoria in childhood than children with desisting gender dysphoria. With regard to sexual orientation, the most likely outcome of childhood GID is homosexuality or bisexuality.

Thanks R33/R34/R36! One thing though, that study hasn't measured what percentage of homosexual adults were GNC children, just the percentage of GNC children that turned out gay.

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Gladly. This is one of the few places that's discussing the phenomenon thoughtfully.

And, as we're reminded, it's LGB[bold]T[/bold]. So why not?

I first realised I was transgender when I was a 16-week-old foetus.

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These kids will be justified when they disown their parents upon the realization of how they fucked up their lives as a kid.

Titania McGrath must be a Datalounger.

I’m sure these parents know IN ADVANCE they want the attention of having a trans kid. In which case they should give them unisex names like “Ashley”, “Bailey” and “River”.

I hate breeders. This is why.

The idea of giving children and young teens hormonal treatments and surgery is horrific. Whatever happened to the Hippocratic Oath primary directive "Do no harm!" Trans is very lucrative. Big Pharma is all over the trans movement mostly because they can make millions giving children hormones and whatever other medications they can create to fuck up a generation.

Those children should be removed from those two lunatic parents.

This is a convenient way for liberals to subvert their homophobia... by passing themselves off as über-accepting progressives.

Worked out so well in Sleepaway Camp...

In the future, this transgender surgery will seem so barbaric. It is clearly a chemical thing...one which should easily be treated with a pill. But, there is way too much money to be made w the surgery so not enough research is going into the alternative route.

Medication isn't necessary either. Children don't need hormonal therapy.

R50. I agree. I was referring to as adults. I guess my reply does not really fit in this post ...

Adults don’t need it either. One’s taste in clothes is not something that needs medical intervention.

R52, clearly you have all the answers! You need to tell everyone that is thinking of having surgery that. You are brilliant!

Here's an excellent article on this topic; the pharmaceutical industry will benefit hugely from this SPAYING AWAY THE GAY trend, cheered on by people (and lawmakers - Bernie Sanders just put up a transgender flag at his office) who call themselves "Progressives."

The author writes under a pseudonym (hence the pen name Sue Donym), but is worth following on MEDIUM because they dig deep into the sinister funding and motivations of the Transgender Lobby.

[quote] The New Conversion Therapy: How Homophobic Quackery Is Targeting Children.

This exact situation is why I don't want them to find a gay gene. They'll abort a generation and pretend they're blessing the world with their progressive kindness. Liberals are homophobic in general.

Liberals embracing this is proof they’re just as homophobic and misogynistic as the Right.

This is insanity....Times one thousand

If "liberals" (thanks for the broad brushstrokes btw) are guilty of anything, it's of trying to please all the people all the time. Some poor little put-upon tranny tugs on their heartstrings with threats of suicide and they're all over him, rubbing in the "acceptance" like Vicks Vaporub.

Bingo

They never supported gay rights. They only pretended to so they could infiltrate and usurp our culture, organizations, and institutions and undermine us.

R3 I didn't know that about Peter O'Toole!

Also fuck these sexist shitheads. Little boys are allowed to like pink for Christ's sake! I hope this poor baby gives them total hell over this later.

These kids are being mutilated by their parents.

Why are we going back in time, where we allow stereotypes to determine gender? Just because a boy likes pink(which was originally the color for boys until the 1920's) , likes faeries, princesses, dolls, cooking, playing dress up etc... does NOT make him a girl. Just because a girl likes blue, cars, getting dirty, bugs, sports, etc... does not make her a boy. None of these things makes a person gay or lesbian, either. Human beings are individuals. We each have our own interests and abilities, and we should be able to explore and develop those things, without society, especially supposedly "progressive" parents forcing stereotypes on these children and making them fit a mold instead of breaking the mold. I grew up knowing and loving that I was a boy, but at the same time I played with dolls, play kitchens, drove go-carts, and fired play guns. I liked getting dirty in the mud but then I wanted to get a bath as soon as I finished playing. I liked to dress up, sometimes I would put on a dress and sometimes I would put on fatigues. I shudder to think how I would treated in today's "transgender" society. BTW, I grew up to be a bisexual man.