My dysfunctional AA meeting... "Im so and so and Im an addict" version

OP I suggest you seek out a local meeting of CA

As long as there is no cross talk.

I know of a meeting that greets newcomers with this statement:

"Before you speak you say 'I'm so-and-so and I'm an alcoholic'. You do not say that you're an addict or say anything else, "so that were all equal". At he end, we say the Lord's Prayer, but nothing else. We don't say anything about '...coming back...because it works if you work it' or similar. If you can agree to this, you are welcome to stay."

So, I figured some truly f'd up person got control of their group consciousness meeting, and rammed-through a bunch of fussy rules. No matter. I can't understand, though, why anyone is threatened by however anyone else identifies themselves.

I know a woman who would not say she was an alcoholic, but would instead say she's a problem drinker. She didn't stick around long enough to realize that they are the same thing. I think the difference to her was that she felt she could resume drinking after learning about how bad alcoholism can get for others. Saying that you are an alcoholic makes it hard to resume drinking again, should that be of interest to the person.

Is it just one "I hate AA" troll?

A speaker I heard once claimed to be an alcoholic and addict. He said if you're an alcoholic but not an addict, it just means that you must be old. Then everybody laughed along with him.

I think there is just one that is single handedly trying to bring AA to its knees. He writes like the guy who is single handedly trying to convince everyone that Jesus didn't exist, because there is no God, etc.

I don't understand your problem.

I used to go to AA meetings TO MEAT and fuck men!

OP,.don't you think you should stick to taking your own inventory?

Do you stand up and say "I'm X and I'm a judgmental cunt"?

You aren't telling the truth either are you?

R11, wit of the day.

OP doesn't speak. He expects the group to pull him out of his shell to reveal the terrifying wonder of his tortured existence.

[quote]shame, which they will drink over if they dont get over

I wonder if these people don't even realize they spout these trite little truisms.

OP, all those years not drinking should give some free time. Use it to learn basic English grammar and spelling.

Oh, R15, you're gonna make him drink, meanie!

You know, I don't know why so many people have a problem with addicts in AA. We allow food and love addicts in our Gay Men's AA group.

I know of a meeting that is intended for people "working one or more programs". But the other Gay meetings I know of welcome anybody, as far as I know.

R18 So, what is the point of it being a Gay group if anyone can attend.....wouldn't that be Queer meeting?In fact, let's get this right .....NO longer let it be the "gays" accepting ALL comers. That is the job of the Queers!!!

R19 you obviously are out of touch. Amy Dresner wrote that her sponsor ordered her to attend gay male meetings for her first year because it would help her concentrate on recovery instead of getting laid.

There are no gay meetings, only gay people.

I would love to see chapter and verse on what it means that a meeting is designated to be "Gay".

Some interpret this designation to mean that straights are not welcome.

Others interpret this designation to mean that the attendees are mostly Gays and there should be no pearl clutching if someone talks about their husbear, or similar.

This designation is discussed occasionally in group conscious meetings, but people are stubborn so no decision is made. Occassionally a new person walks into a meeting that is not marked Gay, but which only Gays go to, and the new person freaks out. I was speaking once and a guy stood up and said "Is this a Gay meeting? I don't go to Gay meetings! I go to Church!" Then he flounced out.

OP is what makes the AA cult so insufferable. Some really good people but a lot of assholes.

Another tiresome NA/AA thread by OP who apparently is threatened by people who attend such meetings in order to improve themselves. Get a hobby and stop going to 12-step meetings. You do not outrank the people who are there.

R20 The "sponsor" *may* have "ordered" her.....The Gay men don't "have" to follow the "order". I would have sent the entitled bitch on her way with a fucking song in her heart....a song of death. Fuck! I'd "demand" to meet the fucking sponsor! I'm not so "out of touch" that you'd make the same fucking mistake twice.

Whoops! A few to many quotation marks there....apologies!

*too

Gay meetings are designed to be straight friendly.

R28, what does that mean?

What do you mean, "what does that mean?"

Which word did you not understand?

It means that straights are welcome to attend [if they don't freak out and insult any gays] but most of the people attending are gay.

Does anyone else find the OP's post unintelligible?

"Drink over to get over", wtf does that mean?

AA is a cult

[quote]We allow food and love addicts in our Gay Men's AA group.

Love addicts? This is why people hate listening to recovery bullshit.

R8 - you are my hero.

I was going to AA and was getting tired of it. Then the last straw was this unhinged head case I "know" from another situation (business) was up there giving out the chips at the end of the meeting. I walked out and never went back to AA after that.

AA is more miserable than heavy drinking

OP's post is why I find AA insufferable. Who gives a fuck why someone is there if their goal is sobriety from any substance and to better themselves? AA can be beautiful if any given group sticks to their primary purpose and help others achieve sobriety- from whatever substance. We are all suffering in some way; being an alcoholic in AA does not make anyone superior or special. OP is a judgmental fuck and why I chose to support my sobriety in other ways other than AA.

It is a tough thing to admit. Once you say the word, it's official. Nobody sets out to be an alcoholic.