Smart People Love Hillary Clinton. Why?

A fool and his money are easily parted.

The smart people are backing the sure winner.

On the contrary, the status quo establishment believes it is protecting itself from change.

Uh, cause she's smart? Perfect? No. Nope. FFS.

Why wouldn't she appeal to anyone with a brain in their head that supports education, the environment, healthcare, gay & lesbian issues, prochoice issues, etc. -- should I stop? (Love Bernie - don't know if he can go the distance 😕)

Credentialed people like Hillary, which is different from being smart.

Hillary has an astonishing lead with minority voters compared to Bernie. This is the most important Democratic constituency (of which I'm a part). We have to win, bitches. I also think a Hillary - Sanders ticket would be unbeatable

Sanders would kill any chance of her winning the presidency.

Bernie's foreign policy history is all sorts of worrisome.

[quote]I also think a Hillary - Sanders ticket would be unbeatable

You don't understand the concept of a Vice President and how they are chosen.

smell her ^^^**

Minority voters tend not to closely follow politics outside their own reps so don't know who Sanders is.

Link asshole?

Hillary Clinton also has a worrisome history of supporting US military adventurism.

Nobody in this race is truly against militarism, not even Rand Paul (despite his claims)

r12 thinks he is morally superior, as well as in charge.

Funny r12! Just wait until the trucks come to take you away...again.

[quote]Just wait until the trucks come to take you away...again.

R14 Lead driver

Because I'm the smartest person with a VAGINA running for president.

What ARE you complaining about? Isn't the military supposed to be adventurous?

Love a man in a uniform.

R2 exactly!

r1 is a fool. probably paid by the RNC too.

/s................

Most smart people wouldn't be caught dead voting Repug

[quote]Most smart people wouldn't be caught dead voting Repug

Ted Cruz graduate from Princeton

and Harvard Law magna cum laude

Very smart people don't vote Repug - but plenty of Repugs are themselves very smart people (because they're con artists taking advantage of not very smart people to get attention, power and money.)

Smart People don't vote GOP. Not if they value this country, its people, its infrastructure, and its economy.

Smart people love Hillary because she's a person who gets things done, is competent, intelligent, driven, and passionate.

Smart people also recognize that she'll have establishment backing and backing of colleagues and party machinery... something Bernie almost completely lacks, which means even if his ideas are better, he has less leverage to use to implement them.

Oh yeah, and Al Gore is smarter than Ted Cruz by leaps and bounds (and far less criminal/sociopathic).

[quote]Hillary Clinton also has a worrisome history of supporting US military adventurism.

But Bernie is the Second Coming of Jewish Christ!

Minorities know who Bernie Sanders is. They're sick and tired of being told that he's their savior.

Blacks have been very vocal about Bernie's supporters and just how patronizing they are towards minorities.

It's amazing that Bernie is still running for the nomination of a party he isn't a member of. How the hell is he able to do that? He's not even going to be on the ballot in a variety of states during the primaries because he isn't a Democrat. They're going to start screaming conspiracy theory like no tomorrow.

Bernie HQ loves throwing around the n-word like no tomorrow. They're really no different than Trump and his flock.

The sad reality is that Bernie is yet another "old white guy". Regardless of his relative honesty and intelligent policies, a lot of people are sick and tired of being lectured to by old white men.

And we've never had a woman President before, and it's long past time. And Hillary is qualified and will make a decent President.

R28 true gonna be Hillary POTUS

Smart people know Bernie can't win

That's not only untrue, but Bill Clinton has played race cards repeatedly and I'm sure Republicans have made a record of every single one.

Smart people know that R30 is not smart.

[quote] but Bill Clinton has played race cards repeatedly

Got any examples and links?

[quote]a lot of people are sick and tired of being lectured to by old white men.

Smart people are just as sick and tired of being lectured to by old white women.

The World is total mess thanks to GWBush and GOP politics of Nationalism and Exceptionalism. ALL of that was deposited on the American soil by Nader spoiler voters that refused to support the Dem party after Nader last to Gore. Appealing to the narcissim of academic lefties, youthful voters is all it takes to deliver GOP santan to the white house (and the Supreme Court, and the Senate) once again.

Hillary has enough street cred to rally the world around this global crisis, after Iraq she will LOATH any war. I travel the world monthly and anyone other than Hills cannot handle this awful shitstorm, certainly not Sanders. I also trust Hillary emphatically, she will be unilaterally the most qualified President this country has seen in a long long time.

Sanders is cute, makes good points and will never carry anything beyond Vermont/NH and maybe some of Cali. He is a Nader spoiler, and nothing BUT a Nader spoiler. The GOP is putting everything they can into pushing young Dems into the losing but devisive Sanders camp. He has good ideas, but is a foolish old man.

Democrats commit suicide when they vote for Sanders.

R30 EXACTLY! TY!

Marry me, R35.

[quote]Democrats commit suicide when they vote for Sanders.

Independents, however, are free to vote for Sanders and to take their stand in so doing.

The Democratic Party has drifted too far to the right for many Independent liberals to support it except as a last resort.

R35 learned NOTHING from the Nader candidacy, and has felt NOTHING from the Bush GOP Hell Years. #GetAClue

R37.... OK

WTF, R39. You need to take a reading comprehension course. Maybe TPRBT could recommend an instructor or independent study advisor.

"Independent Liberals" = arrogant assholes more impressed with THEMSELVES than the state of this countries Democracy... HELLOOOO GOP SUPREME COURT APPOINTEES!

To win, you have to win delegates AND super-delegates.

Bernie is not a Democrat. He doesn't have the party machine behind him. He doesn't have relationships in Congress to support him. He's missing a lot of what is necessary to not only win the Presidency in this country, but to be effective once there.

You think the obstructionism Obama has face was bad? What do you think Bernie will be able to do with a GOP congress?

I want an EFFECTIVE person in office... one that can not only win, but can manipulate the machinery of our government to achieve results.

R35 here .....Meant to say R38 ...... my bad

You won't get that from Hillary CLinton, who couldn't even accomplishe the tepid health care reform we got under Obama.

This would have been true in 2008 also, OP, but look what happened then.

They're not "smart people", OP. I bet they'd buy power crystals and magic beans, too.

OP clearly doesn't know any Ivy League graduates. The well connected ones are often dumb as a box of rocks. The school has the one poor guy from Cambodia, who's family had to sell everything of value they owned, just for his plane ticket there and he's the rich kids' pet and the new, school mascot for self-congratulating PR.

Some, R47, are as dumb as a box of rocks - see Ted Cruz, et al. Others are brilliant.

I know someone that donated 1Mill to thier Alma Mater (Harvard or Yale?) and will tell you they are uncertain that thier Grandkids will be accepted by that school! They are those very "Indep Dems" that voted for Nader and now pillage Hills. They could not bear taking responsibility for being part of a "movement" that carried the GOP into the White House. They will vote for Bernie this time around.

Nobody who is smart (and not a sociopath) votes Republican. Period.

[quote]Minorities know who Bernie Sanders is. They're sick and tired of being told that he's their savior.

The only thing worse than whitey, is a jew!

I have degrees from Princeton, Columbia, SMU and UNT. I don't love HC.

Proof that not everyone with degrees is smart.

No intelligent person could possibly support a former Secretary of State, running for President, who pretends to be a bumbler who can barely open her email, while being on record as lying to her under staff about her email server and demanding they break the rules to accommodate her -- even as they object and exclaim how uncomfortable it makes them to do so.

That's okay, faceless drones should be willing to sacrifice themselves for The Queen Bee, right?

R54 isn't smart either, given nothing he posted is actually true (but it's full of a lot of FOXNews propaganda, spin, distortions, and lies).

HILLARY CLINTON

R55 Are you saying her own, official statements are lies?

The Neocon architects of the Iraq War are pretty much all graduates of Ivy League schools.

[quote]The Democratic Party has drifted too far to the right for many Independent liberals to support it except as a last resort.

No it hasn't. If anything, it's shifted left. You just want a commie party. The United States is just not the country for you, hon.

r54 = F&F

[quote]They will vote for Bernie this time around.

So they're voting Republican.

[quote]No it hasn't. If anything, it's shifted left

All the new wealth for the last decade ha gone into the pockets of the One Per Cent. That would not happen in a left-leaning society.

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My experience of the Ivy League is that most are stupid sheep (did not surprise me at all that Bernie Madoff suckered so many people).

Like most of the idiots they look down on in red state America, most of these "intellectuals" are actually mediocre followers whose only real concern in life is to be on the winning team. They all thought Hillary was going to win easily at this time in 2007 also.

People with degrees from Ivies (and I have four) typically want to be on the side of a winner. They hedge their bets as a lifestyle -- and part of that hedging is an Ivy League degree. They make terribly dull classmates and co-workers, incidentally, and I'm considered an anomaly because I take risks. HRC is attractive to most Ivy Leaguers because they want to be on a winning team -- not because they necessarily support her...and certainly not because they are smart.

Smart people don't vote Republican, period.

Smart people ignore cunts on anonymous boards telling them what smart people do or don't do.

Hillary was the valedictorian of her graduating class at Wellesley. You have to be genius-level smart to achieve that.

[quote]Hillary was the valedictorian of her graduating class at Wellesley. You have to be genius-level smart to achieve that.

Then Hillary married Bill Clinton. Some genius.

I would say that smart AND compassionate people vote Dem. There are a lot of smart people who aren't compassionate and don't have a world view. Those smart people vote republican.

Neither party has a monopoly on compassion although, overall, the present-day Democratic Party is more compassionate.

Being valedictorian means a person got good grades. That is often a person who knows how to work the system (which I say as a college professor who sees those people all of the time). Hillary has a very specific and limited kind of intelligence. If she wins, I hope it's enough for her to govern well.

R60 Is the New Left. It doesn't matter how civil your opinion is, if it is not their own, it must be silenced.

I hope every DLr looks at that and finds it pathetic. This is what they wanted me banned for:

"No intelligent person could possibly support a former Secretary of State, running for President, who pretends to be a bumbler who can barely open her email, while being on record as lying to her under staff about her email server and demanding they break the rules to accommodate her -- even as they object and exclaim how uncomfortable it makes them to do so.

That's okay, faceless drones should be willing to sacrifice themselves for The Queen Bee, right?"

Remember that at the voting booth. These are the new Totalitarian Fascists, folks. Even Palin -- obnoxious as her personal opinions may be -- vetoed a bill against healthcare for gay partners because she knew it was unconstitutional. Lefties don't remain within such boundaries. They go by their own, personal feelings and agenda.

No, R72. Just ... no.

You've got it all wrong and backwards, as so many conservatives (and others who utter such stupid words as "lefties") do.

God I am so fucking sick of conservatives and the way they confuse their own opinions for facts and valid arguments, and dismiss facts and valid arguments as "leftie opinions". Ugh. I am so tired of their lies, their deceptive spin, their distortions, their hypocrisy, their constant distractions, their complete bullshit. It's so ridiculous. And then of course they project everything they're doing onto liberals... psychological projection taken to psychotic extremes.

I'm just so fucking sick of it.

Just trolling, let's face it.

The left has the only solutions for what ails America. HRC could have embraced the left, but she hasn't because she can't bring herself to believe in left solutions.

The left won't win a national election. You haven't put in the years of work to build a viable party.

I'm an Ivy league grad as are many of my friends. We're all voting for Hillary and contributing to her campaign. We like her. She has solid centrist policies and a strong resume. She'll be fine as POTUS.

We'd also like Bill back in the White House any way we can get him. He was a fantastic president.

Hillary is a criminal.

We don't give a fuck what you think of her, R76. We're going to make her the next President of the United States.

What fun tonight on SNL as Hillary showed up in a very funny skit as bartender Val...her playfulness and humor in the scene was right on and the gay rights moment was smartly quick witted...she was awfully spry and healthy tonight and looked fabulous!

Stupid people irrationally hate Hillary Clinton.

No smart people do not "Love" Hillary Clinton. They may give her money, but that is not "love."

Now it's the left's fault we haven't built a viable party. No, it's your fault for writing checks for people who pursue Republican policies. Over and over and over and over. There is gigantic disconnect between the left common sense of hte people and American right wing politics. And it is only the money of turds like R75 which stands in the way of real revolution. Trump's populist lead in the right-wing Republican party proves it. He is arguing for higher taxes on the rich and end to "Free trade" bullshit. And Republicans are eating it up. If you can't see that the left is the ONLY way forward, then you aren't smart at all and it was a mistake for the Ivy League to let a moron like you in.

The meme that Hillary pursues Republican Policies needs to die. It's patently false. And she has a voting record to prove it. And all her announced policies are pretty much the opposite of the Republican Party. So please, just stop.

Her voting record proves she does follow Republican policies.

Voted for the Patriot Act Voted for Iraq military force 2002, 2003, Voted for almost all of the budgets and appropriation bills related to same Voted for establishment of Homeland Security Co-sponsor Hydrogen Fuel Cell Amendment Voted against Medicare Prescription Drug benefit Voted for free trade with Singapore and Chile Voted for Mike Leavitt of Utah for Director of the EPA Sponsored overbroad Victims' Rights bill that tilted balance even further against criminal defendants Co-sponsored surveillance state operations of the National Counterrorism Center Voted to reduce corporate income tax rate to 32% and repeal taxes on offshore operations Voted to confirm proved incompetent Condoleezza Rice as Secretary of State Voted for a "Violent protester amendment" stopping protesters from declaring bankruptcy to get out of civil judgments (showing she is against free speech) Did not vote on Bush administration's attempt to make bankruptcy harder for individuals, easier for corporations

And that's just from her first few years in the Senate Sure, she had some liberal or left votes, but she is not a progressive. Simply not. Never has been, never will be.

Yes she voted to raise the minimum wage. She voted against Alberto Gonzales and Joshua Bolton and a number of bad judges. Yes she voted against CAFTA. But that's just it. Why was she so insistent on giving into them on national security and foreign adventures? Why was she tepid or negative about real financial reform? Why did so many of her votes have a narrow almost personal cast to them>?

No, R83. Just... no.

You can't compare her voting record to ANY Republican out there these days. Maybe a Republican back in the 80s or 90s, but not today. Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself (and doing Karl Rove's work for him... so please, just stop this bullshit, because that's exactly what it is: bullshit)

[bold]Critics say Hillary Clinton is pro-Wall Street. Her Wall Street reform plan says otherwise.[/bold]

Smart people love Hillary because they're too smart to fall for all the lies and distortions of the GOP and the BernieBots.

Check the Wall Street donars on Hillary's list

She is the only "ONE" ready to be POTUS!

I voted for Hillary in my primary, but whenever I hear someone complain that Bernie isn't a democrat, so it's not right for him to run in the Democratic nomination, it bothers me. Bernie caucused with, meaning voted with, the Denocrats for his entire career. The Dems treated him as if he were a Dem when committee assignments and other perks were handed out. His position as an independent rather than a Democrat is simply a label he felt most comfortable with. It's inconsequential. It's even meaningless.

There's a sucker born every minutes.

Why, R90? Bernie is NOT a Democrat. He's denigrated Democrats almost constantly. He's not helped ANY down-ticked Democrats during this election cycle. He's attacked both Obama and Hillary using GOP talking points. He's said in the past he would never run as a Democrat.

It's a simple statement of fact that he's not a Democrat. He's a registered Independent, and he just re-registered to run against for his seat in the Senate.

[quote] R71: Re: Hillary - Being valedictorian means a person got good grades. That is often a person who knows how to work the system (which I say as a college professor who sees those people all of the time).

The person who knows how to "work the system" is putting his or her intelligence to work in the most practical and effective way. FDR was said to have a second rate intelligence but first rate temperment, and het was among our greatest Presidents. Regardless, it is clear to me that Hillary is far smarter than the average bear.

[quote] R92: Why, [R90]? Bernie is NOT a Democrat. He's denigrated Democrats almost constantly. He's not helped ANY down-ticked Democrats during this election cycle. He's attacked both Obama and Hillary using GOP talking points. He's said in the past he would never run as a Democrat. It's a simple statement of fact that he's not a Democrat. He's a registered Independent, and he just re-registered to run against for his seat in the Senate.

Aren't you a Democrat if you say you are? Can't you join at anytime? I'd accept the accusation that he's not a team player, I'd believe that and consider it important, but whatever he calls himself while taking Democratic policy positions is completely fine with me.

R93, that's exactly why she's dangerous, she seems power-hungry, Barbara Bush should seek a seat in the senate, become secretary and become the next republican president, sounds ridiculous does it not?

We love Hillary, in part, because we remember the peace & prosperity of the Clinton years. Bill Clinton ended his term with a budget surplus, too. I hope she & Bill work together to continue the recovery from the consequences of all the Bush Administration's failures.

We love Hillary for her policy positions, her savvy, her experience, her work-ethic, and her political skills.

Oops meant Laura not Ole Barb lol

Smart went crazy.

R95, I don't see Hillary as "power hungry" at all. Everyone running for president has ambition, if that's what you mean. I wouldn't want a President who lacked ambition. But I wouldn't mistake "ambition" for being "power hungry".

R93 R96 R97 Hillbots cutting/pasting "The Message".

R101, the only one hip deep in BS is you.

R102 Absolutely right! From the Hillary BS cut/pasted by R93 R96 R97.

Has anyone ever flat out asked Bernie during one of the debates if he is a Democrat now?

You shouldn't compare Laura Bush with Hillary.

Hillary was a partner in governance with Bill to the extent that the public would let her be. She was elected Senator for two terms, then was Secretary of State. She ran her own campaign before, as well as campaigned for Bill. She knows everybody, people like her, and millions are voting for her.

Laura Bush hated politics, and is on record as initially saying that she didn't even want to give a political speach to support her husband. She's never run for her own office. Nonetheless, if Laura was elected to the Senate twice, then served as S of S for 4 years, then ran for President and was vetted as all candidates are, then it wouldn't seem ridiculous at all to me that she would do so.

Mathematically, Hillary has a 95% chance of winning the nomination.

Bernie people need to start making peace with this.

R101, I'm R93, R96 & R97. I actually wrote those posts. If anyone wants to copy what I wrote and use it elsewhere, they are welcome to it.

When you write something rude as in R101, all you do is reinforce the very thing you seem to want to discredit.

Dear Children of the BurnDownTheHouse... Just a few facts for stupid you... Elizabeth Warren is not endorsing your Cult Leader, you know that right, how does that feel? Not good right? Do you have any idea how fucked up your favorite Uncle Bern is? Warren was one of a very few Women elected officials that ENCOURAGE HILLARY TO RUN. Why? Because she is Brillinat in their eyes, because she. GETS. SHIT. DONE. Your Cult leader is a Loser, that just sits around HEckling and harassing every Senate Member, GOP and Dem alike, telling then ALL how fucking brilliant he is. And YET he gets like NOTHING DONE. Funny it sure is far easier to follow Bernies path for a while, and when a newspaper editorial board takes a closer look the fun and games is no more...

Do you know what ELSE Elizabeth Warren is doing for Hillary Clinton? Because she supports Madam Secretary SO FUCKING MUCH, and BELIEVES SHE IS THE BEST CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT, Elizabeth Warren has suggested, and Hillary accepted, adding many of Warrens Economic advisers to her staff....

So you acolytes of the nastiest Senator in the House should be feeling a Different Kind of Bern about now. Just sayin. Go HIllary, MADAM PRESIDENT come Jan 2017!! So

Bernie supporters act like cult members... attacking anyone who shines a light on their dear leader.

R108 here, WOW far Drunker than I thought I was. Whew some Grammer Qieen is going to be ugly... Anyway I truly hate Sanders for his Sexist BullShit this week. And Yes, Warren will be giving him nothing but Lip Service after that. Toast, Finito, Syonara Old Man, you really are a Sexist asshole Bernie Sanders.

[quote] Smart People Love Hillary Clinton. Why?

She makes an excellent Scrabble partner.

[quote]When you write something rude as in [R101], all you do is reinforce the very thing you seem to want to discredit.

Shake those pom poms, fangurl!!

I don't love Hillary, but I'm voting for her -- because you know what I really don't love? I don't love the idea of right-wing loons occupying the White House, nominating Supreme Court justices and setting the nation's course.

And young people, Bernie is a tiresome, cranky old man, and no one who knows him likes him. And the policies he espouses will never be passed by any Congress, ever.

That's not true. Vermonters love Bernie. Evidence: in the primary, with heavy turnout, Bernie won 86% of the vote in Vermont, where they have known him for thirty years. Whereas Hillary's votes in New York have been lower percentage wise against unknown opposition that couldn't even afford a single ad.

[quote]And the policies he espouses will never be passed by any Congress, ever.

And he doesn't actually have any policies (as demonstrated by the Daily News interview). He has sound bites which play well to under-informed people.

Break-up the big banks - okay, how? What impact will that have on the economy?

Rich people should pay their fair share - okay, what is a fair share? How will you pass that legislation?

Free college - it's like an Oprah giveaway...you get college and you get college and you get college. College today isn't even worth what a high school diploma was 25 years ago unless you went to a top tier school. How will that help people when you're merely creating a glut of people with such dipolmas?

After this last week, I understand why none of Bernie's co-senators support him, and I understand why he was never able to pass any legislation.

The guy is a disaster, both intellectually and politically.

It's surprising Devine and Weaver ignored this going in. He is not likable and has no grasp of the issues whatsoever.

Because she has put forward detailed and concrete plans to achieve her policy goals. She is singular among all the candidates in that respect although this does not seem to matter to most people- just other smart people who prepare and do the homework and legwork associated with achievement.

The Republicans will scare the peasantry by informing them of Bernie's communism and that'll be the end of him. (unless we're lucky enough to see Trump as the candidate - then who knows what the hell will happen - the UN might intervene with troops or something)

But anyway, imo, smart people believe Bernie's socialism will be too toxic an issue for him to win an election in this backward country. Hillary's hated but she's not a fricking Stalinist Maoist Trotskyite who wants to overturn our democracy with a Soviet-style "revolution" (that's what the knuckle draggers will be told and they'll believe it)

R118 don't forget that the Republicans will totally jump on the, "Bernie has rape fantasies," thing.

And just like a lot of Bernie supporters... none of it has to be true, they'll believe whatever they're told.

It is funny. Remember in Obama's first four years, when the Republicans were raving about how great Hillary was and what a shame she wasn't President instead of Obama, who they judged to be a disaster from his first day in office? They did so to try to discredit The President. Now, of course, it's "never mind all that, she was always awful", according to the Republicans.

Smart people can see through Karl Rove's propaganda.

For the sake of accuracy Sanders is not a registered independent. There is no party registration in Vermont. He certainly identifies as an independent.

R109

That's my impression of Hillbots.

OP, you confused “educated” with “intelligent.”

People are smart enough to know that cunt has killed and is not afraid to kill again

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