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Did you think Bonnie Franklin was ugly on One Day At A Time.

I can't decide if she's ugly or attractive. Help me decide.

by Anonymousreply 551June 8, 2019 8:37 PM

Ugly is too strong a word. So is pretty. And "on One Day at a Time" is an unnecessary qualification.

by Anonymousreply 1September 29, 2015 1:22 PM

Not ugly. In fact, maybe borderline attractive if not for her repellent personality.

It did seem unlikely that Joseph Campanella's and Bonnie's DNA somehow combined to form beautiful Valerie Bertinelli, though.

by Anonymousreply 2September 29, 2015 1:22 PM

I hated her no bra look and the mushroom hair seasons, but she was okay.

by Anonymousreply 3September 29, 2015 1:29 PM

did you like her mouth? my mom couldn't stand how bonnie's mouth looked.

by Anonymousreply 4September 29, 2015 1:32 PM

My friend says she was terrified of Bonnie's mouth as a child. I guess she had one of those smiles that looked like it extended all the way to the back of her head.

Not pretty. But I agree it was her annoying personality that did her in.

by Anonymousreply 5September 29, 2015 1:36 PM

I never sat close enough to the tv to notice her mouth, thankfully.

by Anonymousreply 6September 29, 2015 1:37 PM

Never liked the redheads like Bonnie or Barrie Youngfellow. Just didn't find the red hair attractive. Then fast forward five years later, when I dated a redhead in college who I lost my virginity to. So go figure.

by Anonymousreply 7September 29, 2015 1:57 PM

Ben Franklin had a lot of lovers, not ugly at all!

by Anonymousreply 8September 29, 2015 2:22 PM

She was ugly

by Anonymousreply 9September 29, 2015 2:26 PM

She looks like a muppet.

by Anonymousreply 10September 29, 2015 2:30 PM

I dunno, I think she was kind of appealing in a housewifey sexy way.

by Anonymousreply 11September 29, 2015 2:31 PM

I'm not sure what hairstyle would have suited her. Sure, the mushroom hair was awful but can we really say the boy cut was an improvement?

by Anonymousreply 12September 29, 2015 2:34 PM

Ugh, one of the worst hairstyles EVER! Almost as bad as Mamie Eisenhower's and WTF was with the cowl neck sweaters? Plus her tits sagged. Was she really braless or just wearing a badly fitted one.

My mother could not stand her. Not sure why but she would come in the room and make a disgusted sound when the show was on and say "I can't stand that woman."

by Anonymousreply 13September 29, 2015 2:37 PM

Take it from me, r13, she was braless.

by Anonymousreply 14September 29, 2015 2:40 PM

On a whim, I googled "bonnie franklin's mushroom cut" and DL was the first thing to pop up but there lots of articles on that horror.

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by Anonymousreply 15September 29, 2015 2:41 PM

I did not like the way her tits bounced all over. It seemed like she was making them bounce on purpose with all her over-wrought mannerisms. She had a really weird, wide mouth too.

by Anonymousreply 16September 29, 2015 2:42 PM

She hated to exercise, but she loved to tap.

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by Anonymousreply 17September 29, 2015 2:42 PM

I think this is her as a child.

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by Anonymousreply 18September 29, 2015 2:45 PM

Ann Romano was the scariest chick on TV. Never wore a bra, had yellow, shiny teeth and was impishly short. I always felt as if she smelled like dirty pantyhose.

by Anonymousreply 19September 29, 2015 2:48 PM

She is even annoying as a tap dancer.

by Anonymousreply 20September 29, 2015 2:49 PM

R18 I keep seeing that pic pop up in my adbars. Isn't that Aileen Wournos? I really hope it's photoshopped though.

by Anonymousreply 21September 29, 2015 2:49 PM

All these jabs are very hurtful; especially coming one gay at a time.

by Anonymousreply 22September 29, 2015 2:56 PM

r21, I don't think that's Wuornos though it is supposed to be some evil person's childhood picture. I get it in ads all the time but it's in some damn slideshow that always makes my browser crash. The picture quality is too recent for it to be Aileen Wuornos. It's probably just some random kid's picture taken in in the 90s that someone claims is her. Here's an actual picture of Aileen as a kid. Similar look but I really doubt it's the same person.

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by Anonymousreply 23September 29, 2015 3:05 PM

She didn't looks crazy at that time. I'm still convinced that other pic is total photoshop.

by Anonymousreply 24September 29, 2015 3:08 PM

BF was very blase looking. That being said she fit her role quite perfectly. These days Bonnie's role would be filled by some hottie.

by Anonymousreply 25September 29, 2015 3:09 PM

W&W for r22!

by Anonymousreply 26September 29, 2015 3:11 PM

R21 made me laugh so hard I almost pissed my pants!

by Anonymousreply 27September 29, 2015 3:18 PM

No.....

by Anonymousreply 28July 29, 2018 2:01 AM

No poll?

Hold me, David, I'm scared.

by Anonymousreply 29July 29, 2018 2:07 AM

She had an odd shaped head, very square jaw and squat head shape. A squarish jaw on women is always masculine looking.

by Anonymousreply 30July 29, 2018 2:11 AM

She got a lot of male attention on the show.

by Anonymousreply 31July 29, 2018 2:11 AM

She was somewhere between Sada Thompson and Shirley Jones...but definitely a notch below Abby Bradford.

She had confidence, tho, which helped make up for it.

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by Anonymousreply 32July 29, 2018 2:18 AM

I will say her body's better than I remember...

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by Anonymousreply 33July 29, 2018 2:21 AM

She married Johnny Fever.

by Anonymousreply 34July 29, 2018 2:21 AM

Hold me David, I am scared it will take me more than a few months to become an ad exec with no training or job skills!

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by Anonymousreply 35July 29, 2018 2:24 AM

Hideous

by Anonymousreply 36July 29, 2018 2:24 AM

I was scared of Schneider.

by Anonymousreply 37July 29, 2018 2:26 AM

It was the 1970s. Everyone was ugly. Trust me.

by Anonymousreply 38July 29, 2018 2:27 AM

She was slightly prettier on the plain side.

by Anonymousreply 39July 29, 2018 2:32 AM

She was pretty and a terrific actress. I should know!

by Anonymousreply 40July 29, 2018 2:34 AM

It’s Bonnie Franklin; HR Pufnstuf in drag.

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by Anonymousreply 41July 29, 2018 2:37 AM

Hello! I am a human being here!

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by Anonymousreply 42July 29, 2018 2:37 AM

She was a dancer so her body was in good condition. The mushroom hair and cowl neck sweaters were awful. I'd say she could be deemed attractive in a freckly, redhaired, offbeat way.

by Anonymousreply 43July 29, 2018 2:39 AM

She was on the upside of average.

by Anonymousreply 44July 29, 2018 2:43 AM

Just looked Bonnie up in Wikipedia. She only lived to 69 (pancreatic cancer) but her mother outlived her and was almost 103 when she died. Her father lived to 95.

by Anonymousreply 45July 29, 2018 2:43 AM

Mack is still alive.

by Anonymousreply 46July 29, 2018 2:44 AM

Winsome!

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by Anonymousreply 47July 29, 2018 2:45 AM

Layer cuts and dental whitening are my friend...

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by Anonymousreply 48July 29, 2018 2:46 AM

After a couple of Chardonnays, I like to pretend I have Liza's career.

But I'm still ME, dammit.

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by Anonymousreply 49July 29, 2018 2:48 AM

Oh, just leave me the heck alone!

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by Anonymousreply 50July 29, 2018 2:48 AM

Not even that pretty as a teen (with Barbara Hershey on GIDGET)

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by Anonymousreply 51July 29, 2018 2:49 AM

Yes. A young yet oddly matronly Bonnelah on THE MAN FROM UNCLE.

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by Anonymousreply 52July 29, 2018 2:51 AM

Wow, those teefs...shark week!!

by Anonymousreply 53July 29, 2018 2:51 AM

Bonnie was beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 54July 29, 2018 2:51 AM

Dear god...

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by Anonymousreply 55July 29, 2018 2:52 AM

For r53

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by Anonymousreply 56July 29, 2018 2:53 AM

Bonnie's the best.

by Anonymousreply 57July 29, 2018 2:54 AM

The sixties were not Bonnie's decade.

She looks like Stephanie Powers' ugly, aggressive Mini-Me.

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by Anonymousreply 58July 29, 2018 2:58 AM

Ed Cooper wanted to fuck that?

by Anonymousreply 59July 29, 2018 2:59 AM

I think seeing her weekly on TV during puberty is what me prefer men to women.

by Anonymousreply 60July 29, 2018 3:00 AM

She had the crazy eyes. And flopping saggy tits.

by Anonymousreply 61July 29, 2018 3:01 AM

Backstage at APPLAUSE on Broadway, 1970 with Betty B and Len Cariou.

Good lord, how did anyone get laid in that era?

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by Anonymousreply 62July 29, 2018 3:02 AM

Whatever you think of her looks, her acting was manifestly ugly.

by Anonymousreply 63July 29, 2018 3:05 AM

If Alan Rafkin married Ron Rifkin her would be Alan Rafkin Rifkin.

by Anonymousreply 64July 29, 2018 3:06 AM

Sexy!

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by Anonymousreply 65July 29, 2018 3:07 AM

She was attractive, but the problem was she seemed too full of herself. Both the actress and the character she portrayed.

by Anonymousreply 66July 29, 2018 3:09 AM

Hawking her tits at a young age (her only good feature)

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by Anonymousreply 67July 29, 2018 3:09 AM

Hollywood Royalty, mid-70s edition.

TV sitcom sex god Hal Linden with small screen sirens Linda Lavin, Cathryn Damon, and La Franklin. For his ABC TV special.

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by Anonymousreply 68July 29, 2018 3:17 AM

Jewish?

She reminded me of all those red headed Jewish kids I went to art school with. The ones with small Waspy noses and freckles who were always mistaken for being Irish! Years down the line, I was shocked to see there were also redhead Puerto Ricans, I had no idea!

by Anonymousreply 69July 29, 2018 3:21 AM

I knew she was Jewish!

"Franklin was born in Santa Monica, California, the daughter of Claire (née Hersch, August 24, 1911 - June 7, 2014) who outlived her and Samuel Benjamin Franklin (1902-1997), an investment banker who founded the Beverly Hills chapter of B'nai B'rith. Her parents were both Jewish immigrants, her father from Russia and her mother from Romania; they married in Montreal before moving to the United States."

Oh vey!

by Anonymousreply 70July 29, 2018 3:23 AM

Damn autocorrect: "Oy vey !"

by Anonymousreply 71July 29, 2018 3:24 AM

As a kud I thought she was ugly. As an adult, less ugly.

by Anonymousreply 72July 29, 2018 3:25 AM

Was Pippi Lockstocking Jewish too?

by Anonymousreply 73July 29, 2018 3:26 AM

Regrettable clothing choices appear to have been a lifelong pursuit....

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by Anonymousreply 74July 29, 2018 3:30 AM

oopsy...

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by Anonymousreply 75July 29, 2018 3:32 AM

Fugly

by Anonymousreply 76July 29, 2018 3:40 AM

Homely

by Anonymousreply 77July 29, 2018 3:44 AM

BONNIE... AND THE FRANKLINS!!!

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by Anonymousreply 78July 29, 2018 3:46 AM

VOGUE July 1970... right after our gal wins the hearts of Bway with APPLAUSE...

People are talking about.... Miss Bonnie Franklin

Younger than springtime.....

And twice as exciting!

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by Anonymousreply 79July 29, 2018 3:48 AM

An' with the swirlin' bellbottoms ta PROVE it!

by Anonymousreply 80July 29, 2018 3:49 AM

R78 Are those her aging parents and Franklin Family siblings in the corner providing the promised "love", or do she and Joe Namath get frisky in a hilarious "Love American Style"-style sketch?

by Anonymousreply 81July 29, 2018 3:51 AM

My father made me shut off the tv during the episode where Chuck wants Julie to go all the way. I had to sneak into the den to watch it.

by Anonymousreply 82July 29, 2018 3:51 AM

I think was beautiful, fresh, clean and was a good representation of a struggling, single mom of the 70's /early 80's

by Anonymousreply 83July 29, 2018 3:55 AM

Say what you want.

She had a nice tush.

by Anonymousreply 84July 29, 2018 3:56 AM

firecrotch

by Anonymousreply 85July 29, 2018 4:06 AM

Rare collectible set: Bonnie's 1983 cheque for $4.15 and casual chic photo posing with pink roses.

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by Anonymousreply 86July 29, 2018 4:25 AM

She was not attractive, though her dates for the most part were representative of what she could get.

David, her business partner, the guy she married, were all average looking and so was she. Only her ex-husband was way above her.

by Anonymousreply 87July 29, 2018 6:42 AM

I liked her ex better when he was pursuing Dorothy.

by Anonymousreply 88July 29, 2018 6:59 AM

R1 summed it up in a nutshell. In the nicest of ways he called her average (and I concur).

by Anonymousreply 89July 29, 2018 7:03 AM

[quote]r87 her dates for the most part were representative of what she could get...Only her ex-husband was way above her.

Why did she let him get away?

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by Anonymousreply 90July 29, 2018 7:04 AM

You can buy her genuine chenile pullover for $1,250

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by Anonymousreply 91July 29, 2018 7:07 AM

[quote] My father made me shut off the tv during the episode where Chuck wants Julie to go all the way. I had to sneak into the den to watch it.

Was your father an alcoholic? That would have been a lot for you to accomplish in less than 30 mins. He would need to have been passed out.

by Anonymousreply 92July 29, 2018 7:08 AM

Who was the date who accused her of harassing him?

She was the original Kim Guilfoyle.

by Anonymousreply 93July 29, 2018 7:08 AM

^^ Ann Romano was a SEX PEST ? ?

by Anonymousreply 94July 29, 2018 7:10 AM

I thought she was beautiful.

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by Anonymousreply 95July 29, 2018 7:14 AM

R69, belive it or not, there are natural redheads in every race.some more that others, obviously, but every race.

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by Anonymousreply 96July 29, 2018 9:00 AM

R91

That "iconic" sweater. "Iconic"? That must be a DataLounger. I can't believe someone's asking $1,250 for it! The entirity of Ann Romano's awful '70s wardrobe didn't come to that much. If it's bought it must be a DL-er. Post a photo of yourself wearing it (and slapping a cardboard cutout of Mack Phillips), whoever you are.

I'll try and get my hands on her "iconic" pantyhose.

by Anonymousreply 97July 29, 2018 10:13 AM

I think she looked best in the middle seasons. No longer dressed like a hyperactive toddler; yet not as she and everyone else was by the time the show ended, beginning to be influenced by Joan Collins. Those kind of autumn-y late '70s styles are actually what best suited her.

by Anonymousreply 98July 29, 2018 11:14 AM

She kinda looked middle-aged as a teenager, then like a toddler circa. APPLAUSE and ODAAT.

by Anonymousreply 99July 29, 2018 11:15 AM

OP = Linda Lavin

by Anonymousreply 100July 29, 2018 11:15 AM

Chunky platforms, bell-bottoms, and a cowl-neck sweater -- not just anyone could pull that off.

by Anonymousreply 101July 29, 2018 11:18 AM

There was not a thread of resemblance between her, Mack, Val, and Nanette Fabray anyway.

by Anonymousreply 102July 29, 2018 11:26 AM

not really attractive and not really ugly.

by Anonymousreply 103July 29, 2018 12:23 PM

I'm the son she never talked about

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by Anonymousreply 104July 29, 2018 2:44 PM

[quote]Chunky platforms, bell-bottoms, and a cowl-neck sweater -- not just anyone could pull that off.

No heterosexual male, ever, desired to pull that off of Anne Romano.

by Anonymousreply 105July 29, 2018 11:13 PM

[quote]r101 Chunky platforms, bell-bottoms, and a cowl-neck sweater -- not just anyone could pull that off.

STRIPED bell-bottoms, thankyouverymuch.

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by Anonymousreply 106July 29, 2018 11:17 PM

Bonnie Franklin just irritates gay men, myself included. This hasn’t been going for years, it’s been decades.

I watched “One Day At A Time”, while growing up. I hated the way she dressed and that tacky, dreary apartment. It was depressing. Bonnie Franklin strutted around as if every straight man within her orbit lusted after her. One time, a tabloid chastised her for her horrible wardrobe. She wore a jet black dress with black Peter Pan shoes. She was in dance pose and had a huge smile on her face. I showed this to my sister who agreed with me

Over the years, when Bonnie Franklin was discussed, I repeated how much I loathed Bonnie Franklin. My sister wonders why I can’t let go of my disgust of Bonnie Franklin. I swear it’s wired into our brains; it’s a chemical dislike.

by Anonymousreply 107July 30, 2018 12:20 AM

I bet Nancy Dussault detested Franklin - - I wish the two gingers had done a cage fight on [italic]Battle of the Network Stars

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by Anonymousreply 108July 30, 2018 12:38 AM

She was cute.

by Anonymousreply 109July 30, 2018 1:06 AM

One of the ODAAT episodes featured her making a blatant pass at a young man who worked at the ad agency. She invited him over to discuss work related matters and ended up kissing him. It would be considered flagrant sexual harassment today. The show ended with her boss telling her the young man quit the company. He should have slapped her with a sexual harassment lawsuit.

by Anonymousreply 110July 30, 2018 1:25 AM

I believe my hatred for her is merely an echo of my loathing of Mason Reese. She looked like many women in my area(heavy E European population).

I did actively hate the jumble of shit in the apartment. That set design realism annoyed me as much as "Good Times" and "Roseanne".

by Anonymousreply 111July 30, 2018 1:50 AM

R110.

They had the nerve to do a following episode where Barbara was sexually harassed by a professor with no mention of Ann doing the SAME EXACT THING!

Also, Ann's underling Craig was gayer than a Disneyland Cruise.

by Anonymousreply 112July 30, 2018 1:58 AM

Mary Louise Wilson said that Franklin considered herself an expert on all things Broadway and made it known. A viewer could tell that she considered herself an expert on all things period and had a smug, self satisfied way of showing it.

by Anonymousreply 113July 30, 2018 1:58 AM

I thought Mackenzie Phillips was RATHER more cretinous than Franklin. She was very good in AMERICAN GRAFFITI, but I was frankly surprised she got a big prime time role after that, just based on her off-putting appearance.

by Anonymousreply 114July 30, 2018 1:59 AM

She was terrific with Paul Le Mat in American Graffiti, but annoying as hell in anything else I've seen her in.

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by Anonymousreply 115July 30, 2018 2:04 AM

Eh, tu Ann?

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by Anonymousreply 116July 30, 2018 2:05 AM

[quote]r113 Mary Louise Wilson said that Franklin considered herself an expert on all things Broadway and made it known.

And after just 1 Broadway show to her credit...impressive.

by Anonymousreply 117July 30, 2018 2:06 AM

Bonnie Franklin also shat on every script that came her way that first season.

How she got the clout to call the shots that early on we will never know.

by Anonymousreply 118July 30, 2018 2:07 AM

Franklin always talked about how she hated LA, how she hated TV and she couldn't wait to get back to New York and star on Broadway. Then came her appearance on the Tony Awards which was such a disaster that Sondheim, who was president of the writer's guide at the time, complained that this unknown shouldn't get so much time on the telecast when they were presenting awards off camera. Here she is doing "Wonderful Guy" on the Sylvia Kaye series and God, she's terrible!

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by Anonymousreply 119July 30, 2018 2:13 AM

Bitches I got to fuck 4 DL icons-Mary Richards, Ann Romano, Dorothy Zbornaik and Thelma Harper!

by Anonymousreply 120July 30, 2018 2:14 AM

Okay, now this is DL heaven. Bonnie Franklin playing Martha in "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf".

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by Anonymousreply 121July 30, 2018 2:16 AM

R119 Well, she lacks subtlety, that's for sure.

by Anonymousreply 122July 30, 2018 2:17 AM

R119 Well, that explains why Bonnie didn't get the coveted role of Squeaky Fromme in Sondheim's "Assassins".

by Anonymousreply 123July 30, 2018 2:18 AM

The set for her VIRGINIA WOOLF should have looked like the Romanos apartment, with Schneider as George.

I'm looking for the reviews [bold]: o

by Anonymousreply 124July 30, 2018 2:20 AM

Never got this woman's appeal at all, she was average. Average looks, average performer. This series needed a more charismatic lead.

Besides, neither of her TV daughters even looked a bit like her. Terrible casting, even in that area!

I'd say she was damn lucky landing this role and having a career at all.

by Anonymousreply 125July 30, 2018 2:22 AM

I thought she was great as Nellie in that clip.

by Anonymousreply 126July 30, 2018 2:22 AM

Hope this is just on a break during rehearsal....her Martha's awfully smiley.

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by Anonymousreply 127July 30, 2018 2:24 AM

Sad...

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by Anonymousreply 128July 30, 2018 2:26 AM

It's been suggested that both ODAAT and Alice would have benefited from swapping actresses. ODAAT certainly would have been better with Lavin. Alice might have been better with Franklin if only because she didn't seem as desperate as Lavin in the role.

by Anonymousreply 129July 30, 2018 2:27 AM

She was hideous OP. She was a REDHEAD with a PIXIE CUT.

why is this even a question?

by Anonymousreply 130July 30, 2018 2:28 AM

She actually looked better as she got older I would say.

At 35 she looked average at best (she looked even worse on Gidget) but by the time she was in her 60s she looked pretty damn good for her age (since she basically looked exactly the same, somewhat better actually).

by Anonymousreply 131July 30, 2018 2:29 AM

The shows would have been much more bearable with Franklin as Alice and Lavin as Ann.

They're both borderline dreck-y as it stands now.

by Anonymousreply 132July 30, 2018 2:29 AM

Would have loved to have seen her, Bertinelli, & Phillips in Albee's "3 Not Tall Women".

by Anonymousreply 133July 30, 2018 2:30 AM

Couldn't stand that fug as fuck face. May she rest in peace.

by Anonymousreply 134July 30, 2018 2:31 AM

At 35 she looked average at best (she looked even worse on Gidget)

FUCK YOU, r131 ! It was baby fat!

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by Anonymousreply 135July 30, 2018 2:32 AM

Lavin actually looks like a Romano, even though that was her married name. And she could have easily been the mother to both Mac and Val.

by Anonymousreply 136July 30, 2018 2:32 AM

R129 I actually never found Lavin nearly as unbearable as Franklin. So long as she stayed in her lane as the comedy straight woman, and refrained from dressing as her yenta landlord or singing and dancing, she was pretty good. And definitely more attractive at least in the early seasons.

She also has some legit Broadway credits (although I couldn’t stand her in Sisters Rosensweig, I saw her in that). But she’s gotten pretty good reviews for some other things.

by Anonymousreply 137July 30, 2018 2:33 AM

If one of you dies, I'm telling everyone you were big Linda Lavin fan and you wan't "New Girl In Town" v 2.038 played at your wake.

by Anonymousreply 138July 30, 2018 2:41 AM

She didn't get as many chances as Lavin did.

by Anonymousreply 139July 30, 2018 2:46 AM

I am in awe at that her sweater, THE sweater of the iconic side tit TV guide cover, is available for purchase. That photo has been posted and mocked in each of the innumerable Bonnie Franklin/ Ann Romano threads featured on Datalounge over the years. It sheathed (barely) Bonnie’s perky bare breasts. It is a RELIC, and you heathens couldn’t care less! Let’s Crowdfund this shit STAT.

by Anonymousreply 140July 30, 2018 3:09 AM

[quote]r140 Let’s Crowdfund this shit STAT.

But who would be its CARETAKER?? Does it move from house to house monthly? And what if someone lies and says it was stolen, when in fact they're wearing it out on the town every single night? I can just see this ending up in tears -- and bloodshed -- on a tru TV crime show.

One possible solution (?) is we all buy it, then it's taken apart at the seams to create a line of caftan version all can enjoy.

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by Anonymousreply 141July 30, 2018 3:35 AM

Mackenzie’s hand placement in that pic makes it look like she has a sizable dong slipping out of her zipper.

by Anonymousreply 142July 30, 2018 3:37 AM

Bonnie's got her hand out because she's about to GRAB IT in jubilant joy!

by Anonymousreply 143July 30, 2018 3:40 AM

I also like how “The Nobel Sperm Bank” is listed right next to Mackenzie’s crotch. I think they could do better.

by Anonymousreply 144July 30, 2018 3:44 AM

As a boy I found her repulsive to look at.

by Anonymousreply 145July 30, 2018 4:20 AM

How did this heifer have so much money?

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by Anonymousreply 146July 30, 2018 5:12 AM

R119 that was painful

by Anonymousreply 147July 30, 2018 5:18 AM

I thought she was cute.

by Anonymousreply 148July 30, 2018 5:19 AM

R146 who the f is digging up all her checks this is weird.

by Anonymousreply 149July 30, 2018 6:00 AM

Don't you worry none/we'll just take it like it comes/one check at a time, one check at a time

by Anonymousreply 150July 30, 2018 6:05 AM

[quote]r145 As a boy I found her repulsive to look at.

Ridiculous! Bonnie Franklin looked perfectly fine as a boy.

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by Anonymousreply 151July 30, 2018 8:56 AM

Eat your heart out, Bonnie Franklin! I’m glad you lived to see that I got a Tony award, you old cunt.

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by Anonymousreply 152July 30, 2018 10:54 AM

I ate her snatch

by Anonymousreply 153July 30, 2018 11:29 AM

On a scale of 1 to 10, I'd rate her a 5.

She's no Pamela Anderson but she's no Janet Reno either.

by Anonymousreply 154July 30, 2018 12:11 PM

I hope she was able to get the body odor out of those cowl neck sweaters.

by Anonymousreply 155July 30, 2018 12:37 PM

Ugly, no. Though certainly not attractive either. She had kind of an odd look: a mix of Sandy Duncan-esque childness and yet a defiantly middle aged '70s womyn frumpiness. She seemed unusual in that way. And, of course, there was that unique (and unflattering) hairstyle.

I remember before I knew who she was, until the endless mentions she received her on DL inspired me to Google her. I assumed she was simply another interchangeable '70s TV actress -- like the forgettable Donna Pescows, Linda Evans, Valerie Harpers, etc., -- but she's actually quite distinct. Unlike Linda Lavin who seemed, aside from the sometimes overt yenta-ness, decidedly bland.

Franklin and Ann Romano seemed to merge into one. Maybe that's why she never really worked again and we all find it a bit hard to imagine her in FRANKIE AND JOHNNY and VIRGINIA WOOLF. She could've kept her natural brunette color and opted for the classic '70s shaggy look but she instead choose that bright orange mushroom bowl cut.

She (and Ann Romano) came across as quite self-confident too. Despite their lack of looks, talent, charm, wit, or really appeal whatsoever. I think that's why people dislike them both (and no one likes one but not the other).

...Though it isn't really an outright hatred. It's more a bemusement of how they both managed to make that awful TV show last for nine seasons and have both the NYTimes and plenty of male love interests falling at her platformed feet.

She actually reminds me of English teacher I used to have, who similarly seemed to have a high opinion and a lack of self-consciousness about herself for no apparent reason. She never bared her pasty stomach and ran around a stage singing off-key with no shame, however.

by Anonymousreply 156July 30, 2018 1:31 PM

She could've at least worn a bra.

by Anonymousreply 157July 30, 2018 1:34 PM

That description of her "smelling of old pantyhose" really gained currency. And not for no reason. It rang true.

by Anonymousreply 158July 30, 2018 1:35 PM

She made this face all the time.

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by Anonymousreply 159July 30, 2018 1:39 PM

She was homely. Later on, Blair Brown came along in Days and Nights of Molly Dodd and showed us what that kind of face should look like.

by Anonymousreply 160July 30, 2018 1:40 PM

Bonnie wasn't a traditional leading lady. She was right when she described herself as having a "wet" (was it?) Norman Lear type face; in contrast to an Aaron Spelling type face.

But unlike Bea Arthur or Tyne Daly or Joan Van Ark she wasn't that talented either.

Just a big bundle of inexplicable self-belief.

by Anonymousreply 161July 30, 2018 1:43 PM

Frances McDormand and John Travolta had a baby.

by Anonymousreply 162July 30, 2018 1:44 PM

[quote] The shows would have been much more bearable with Franklin as Alice and Lavin as Ann.

Probably. Franklin as an over-eager, more energetic and youthful Alice Hyatt. Lavin as a more weary, less perky and older Ann Romano.

Of course, it was Bonnie who kept demanding ODAAT maintain its original premise as an issues-drama. She loves those dramatic scenes like the infamous 36th birthday monologue (which I'm surprised she didn't demand they drag out into a two-parter) presumably because it was prime Emmy-bait.

In fact, unlike ALICE which is a much more standard sitcom, the early and middle years of ODAAT read more like a drama with comic elements. Correct me if I'm wrong though, because I haven't seen much of it.

by Anonymousreply 163July 30, 2018 1:56 PM

No, you're correct R163, most of ODAAT plays like a dramatic play written at local community center's feminist playwriting workshop. It's pretty bad. The celebrity I think Franklin is most akin to is Betty Hutton, not necessarily in looks, but in the baffling supreme level of overconfidence.

by Anonymousreply 164July 30, 2018 1:59 PM

I read on here how Bonnie was due to star in a production of ANNIE GET YOUR GUN, but it fell through when she demanded all the Indians and guns be cut from the production.

by Anonymousreply 165July 30, 2018 2:01 PM

She managed to somehow look older on GIDGET than she did on ODAAT. After the show, aged alright. And, of course, her signature dyed carrot-top color remained to the end.

by Anonymousreply 166July 30, 2018 2:20 PM

I live in hope that someday someone might manage to produce a recording of her turn as Martha. I don't think I could stomach her as Johnny though, since she goes nude onstage in that on.

But if someone could at least try and find her in A SUMMER PLACE for us. I think she's in the dorm-room scene.

by Anonymousreply 167July 30, 2018 2:22 PM

The '70s were a Golden Age for less conventionally attractive actresses. Would Mack Phillips have been cast as Julie today?

by Anonymousreply 168July 30, 2018 2:26 PM

Question of the day: who was she shtooping at CBS to get her own show and hired to star in variety style specials?

by Anonymousreply 169July 30, 2018 2:28 PM

[quote]Question of the day: who was she shtooping at CBS to get her own show and hired to star in variety style specials?

Don't forget those reviews for APPLAUSE and the TONYS telecast (which has to be seen to be believed).

But that was the thing: Who'd wanna have sex with Bonnie Franklin? Nepotism maybe, but the casting couch... eww.

[quote]Rumor is her parents were rich

They were.

Her father was an investment banker and founder of the Beverly Hills B'nai Brith. Both her parents were Jewish immigrants to the US. Bonnie attended Beverly Hills High and then Smith (the most prestigious college that allowed women in those days). She worked as a child actress and all her family were into theatrics.

BTW, can you imagine a TV special starring today's equivalent to Bonnie Franklin and all her family members today? She was lucky to get a bit-part as Gidget's friend, let alone have CBS devote primetime to her sisters, brothers, and father.

by Anonymousreply 170July 30, 2018 2:40 PM

So perky, full of beans....[shudders]

by Anonymousreply 171July 30, 2018 2:41 PM

She was ugly because she played a mean mom. It very well may have been an accurate portrayal of a stressed out, broke single mother raising two difficult teenagers but who wanted to invite this shrill harpy, constantly screaming "Dammit Julie!" into their home each week. The other TV moms we were all used to were much more loving, nicer characters.

by Anonymousreply 172July 30, 2018 2:43 PM

I can totally see her demanding an two-part VSE in which Ann struggles with IBS.

by Anonymousreply 173July 30, 2018 2:44 PM

[quote]It very well may have been an accurate portrayal of a stressed out, broke single mother raising two difficult teenagers but who wanted to invite this shrill harpy, constantly screaming "Dammit Julie!" into their home each week.

Most single moms working full-time jobs have no energy. Unfortunately, Ann Romano was a bundle of spunky energy.

by Anonymousreply 174July 30, 2018 2:46 PM

This happened

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by Anonymousreply 175July 30, 2018 2:47 PM

It must've been tough for Mack to have Bertinelli playing her sister. She should've taken after Bonnie and embraced her offbeat looks.

by Anonymousreply 176July 30, 2018 2:50 PM

She always seemed like that over-enthusiastic frau taking part in amateur community theater production. She wants to take it seriously, but also have fun.

by Anonymousreply 177July 30, 2018 2:52 PM

Decide: This or Ann's "Here's lookin' atchu... KID" monologue

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by Anonymousreply 178July 30, 2018 2:59 PM

Her mushroom haircut made me very uncomfortable as a child, as it did on Joey Lawrence in Gimme A Break, and Brian Bonsall on Family Ties. Unforgivable.

by Anonymousreply 179July 30, 2018 3:09 PM

I wonder, R178, since Michele Lee was one of her guest stars (along with Mr. Joe Namath) on her Bonnie and the Franklins special, if the two had a monologue-off

by Anonymousreply 180July 30, 2018 3:14 PM

This thread is giving me life.

by Anonymousreply 181July 30, 2018 3:21 PM

I'm wishing someone could do a ODAAT version of this. What scenes would be included?

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by Anonymousreply 182July 30, 2018 3:25 PM

Because of Franklin's stature and appearance, she just seemed bossy and unpleasant. Even the "dammit Julie/Barbara" had the undercurrent "damn you Julie/Barbara". I think Lavin for all her faults at least did suggest she really loved Tommy. That's a maternal quality Franklin never had. With Lavin saying the line, it would be more a dejected, understanding "damn them Julie/Barbara" and it would be on a much lower tone.

by Anonymousreply 183July 30, 2018 4:19 PM

C'mon.

Ann was always understanding, gentle and loving with her daughters.

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by Anonymousreply 184July 30, 2018 5:09 PM

That slap looked so fake.

by Anonymousreply 185July 30, 2018 5:13 PM

Mackenzie is really good in that scene. The Bonster, less so.

by Anonymousreply 186July 30, 2018 5:14 PM

The irony of that scene is that Franklin humiliates her daughter by having that discussion in front of her but when the daughter claps back (and it certainly hit a nerve), that's when Bonn-0 slaps her.

by Anonymousreply 187July 30, 2018 5:23 PM

Another example of what a wonderful, loving and nurturing mom Ann Romano was. And you could see poor Mac was really into her heroin in this scene.

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by Anonymousreply 188July 30, 2018 5:26 PM

Holy shit, there are a lot of these Ann Romano out of control clips on YT.

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by Anonymousreply 189July 30, 2018 5:27 PM

Her rageful woe-is-me rants always seemed more real than her earnest, sitting on the arm of the couch talks.

by Anonymousreply 190July 30, 2018 5:30 PM

Leslie Jones would be a great Ann Romano.

by Anonymousreply 191July 30, 2018 5:31 PM

What a wonderful mom. We also get a Shut up Julie.

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by Anonymousreply 192July 30, 2018 5:31 PM

Dammit, Milo

by Anonymousreply 193July 30, 2018 5:32 PM

Valerie Bertinelli/Barbara was the IT girl for the teenage boys of her time. I know some who are still completely devoted to her.

by Anonymousreply 194July 30, 2018 5:34 PM

She's a total bitch in R192's scene, but the real trouble is it comes so easily for her. It would've been different with Lavin, Florence Henderson, Mary Tyler Moore as Ann. More maternal, less aggressive.

Maybe it's for the best Bonnie never had any children.

by Anonymousreply 195July 30, 2018 5:36 PM

Bonnie had step children.

I hope they aren't reading this.

If they are.

Sorry.

It is just too funny to bash Ann Romano.

by Anonymousreply 196July 30, 2018 5:38 PM

I'm sure some ARCHIE BUNKER'S PLACE fans cursed her ugly face for having ANOTHER Very Special ODAAT.

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by Anonymousreply 197July 30, 2018 5:41 PM

Dammmit, Ron Rifkin!

by Anonymousreply 198July 30, 2018 5:46 PM

Definitely a part of the problem with Franklin and ODAAT is that she never showed any sense of maternal instinct. She was so shrill that it was almost as if her daughters were her sisters, her competition. Maybe that's why those episodes with Robbie Benson and Jim Hutton were so weird. That was the difference with Lavin and Alice because even in the opening, she seems to really be a mom and really loves her son. There seems to be more rapport in the first season opening between them than in the entire ODAAT series combined.

by Anonymousreply 199July 30, 2018 5:58 PM

Barbara and Julie should have stayed with their dad. Everyone would have been a lot happier.

by Anonymousreply 200July 30, 2018 6:05 PM

She was a teenage mom who left her husband to find herself.

She was bitter.

by Anonymousreply 201July 30, 2018 6:07 PM

Did the show ever devote any time to how Ann's sudden decision to move across the country affected her teenage daughters? Of course, she found work more easily than she'd be able to today. But were property prices so steep in '70s Indianapolis they couldn't have afforded a house? If so, Ann probably shouldn't have moved... but I guess she had to "find herself".

by Anonymousreply 202July 30, 2018 6:09 PM

I hadn't thought about the lack of any maternal chemistry, but that's a good point. I hated Bonnie Franklin, but I think it's the lack of maternal ability that always made it seem so stifled on that show.

I feel like her real-life parents were probably secretly paying CBS (or whoever), behind the scenes to cover expenses and keep the show cheap, so their little girl could keep showcasing all her talents. How the hell else would this woman have ever gotten a show?

by Anonymousreply 203July 30, 2018 6:11 PM

She "found herself" a dumpy apartment with a superintendent who had daily access to her daughters.

Also, a revolving bedroom door.

by Anonymousreply 204July 30, 2018 6:12 PM

For anyone who's interested, the 1978 TONY Awards. It starts right off with Bonnie.

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by Anonymousreply 205July 30, 2018 6:15 PM

That would be like the whole of the Oscars taking place through an inner monologue of Susan Sarandon.

by Anonymousreply 206July 30, 2018 6:16 PM

Look at those hoards of paparazzi just waiting for Bonnie to deplane, LOL.

by Anonymousreply 207July 30, 2018 6:20 PM

That clip is like a SCTV parody, only too broad.

by Anonymousreply 208July 30, 2018 6:23 PM

Bonnie at 0:33

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by Anonymousreply 209July 30, 2018 6:24 PM

And at 6:35 with Beth Howland

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by Anonymousreply 210July 30, 2018 6:25 PM

For some reason she always looked squat, certainly next to the gamine Beth Howland ( a woman who would've looked more believably like Nanette Fabray's daughter).

by Anonymousreply 211July 30, 2018 6:37 PM

R211 well Beth and Nanette most likely shared the same nose doctor, so that’s a start.

And Bonnie was squat because she was short as f. Probably 5’1” on a good day.

by Anonymousreply 212July 30, 2018 6:41 PM

Ann liked it when Max her long suffering son in law called her "Shorty"

by Anonymousreply 213July 30, 2018 6:46 PM

Loud, abrasive...very common. Not quite our kind, dear!

by Anonymousreply 214July 30, 2018 6:57 PM

Ironically, Bonnie Franklin’s step-daughter’s name is “Julie”. She likely screamed “DAMN IT JULIE” at home.

by Anonymousreply 215July 30, 2018 7:14 PM

Did she "wop" on the beat at home?

by Anonymousreply 216July 30, 2018 7:16 PM

I assumed getting "wop" on your feet (*wop on ya feet*) was a reference to Ann Romano's Italian heritage.

by Anonymousreply 217July 30, 2018 7:19 PM

Yep, that must have been it.

by Anonymousreply 218July 30, 2018 7:23 PM

I wish Julie the real stepdaughter would chime in right about now.

by Anonymousreply 219July 30, 2018 7:28 PM

No footage of Bonnie and the franklins on YouTube.

I sometimes mix up dL icons Bonnie Franklin and Bonnie mace.

by Anonymousreply 220July 30, 2018 7:40 PM

Her looks have softened with age, but back in the day she looked like that Zuni fetish doll from Trilogy of Terror.

by Anonymousreply 221July 30, 2018 7:47 PM

Gayling Alex tells Ann Romano exactly how he feels about Ann’s parenting and GASP, her decorating, and her intrusiveness in his father’s life. Gayling Alex verbalized the disgust gay men have about Bonnie Franklin as Ann Romano.

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by Anonymousreply 222July 30, 2018 7:54 PM

Gayling Alex's mother dropped him like a hot potato and Ann was his replacement mom.

by Anonymousreply 223July 30, 2018 8:00 PM

Is that all that bitch does? Screams and slaps and punches people? She would have been charged with domestic assault.

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by Anonymousreply 224July 30, 2018 8:02 PM

The show was considered “ground breaking” at that time. Yet, I’ve never seen a show about gay topics and gay men were never seen. Am I wrong?

by Anonymousreply 225July 30, 2018 8:09 PM

R205 that was truly god awful. Wow. I'm just - stunned at how embarrassingly bad that was, and yet how proud she was of herself.

by Anonymousreply 226July 30, 2018 8:21 PM

ew R205, ew.

by Anonymousreply 227July 30, 2018 8:28 PM

I HATED how she closed her eyes and fluttered her eyelids while speaking. As if everyone she spoke to was a total dumbass.

by Anonymousreply 228July 30, 2018 8:29 PM

What the hell did her parents do to her to give her such an inappropriately large ego and unjustifiable confidence. From all these videos, interviews, etc. she appears to truly think very very highly of herself.

by Anonymousreply 229July 30, 2018 8:42 PM

Well, she really took ODAAT seriously. Whereas ALICE quickly devolved from its original premise -- a bittersweet sitcom take on the movie (see the early suicide episode) -- to a move derivative, zany sitcom; Bonnie was determined *her show* (and that's how she regarded it) maintain its original Norman Lear-esque objective.

It was Bonnie who saw Ann as a feminist trailblazer, tackling sensitive issues of the time.

And she also believed the audience also craved an annual song and tapdance special.

by Anonymousreply 230July 30, 2018 8:49 PM

There was an interview from not long before she died and in it she talks about her role and the show in unbelievably self-important tones.

by Anonymousreply 231July 30, 2018 8:50 PM

She didn't even do much work during the show's run. Most actors of her stature, (i.e., a TV lead) could manage to get an summer TV movie off the ground, but not her. She did, however, do A MARGARET SANGER BIOPIC which I can only imagine how strident she was in.

by Anonymousreply 232July 30, 2018 8:54 PM

Well she certainly seems to be less hated by her co-stars than Lavin.

by Anonymousreply 233July 30, 2018 8:56 PM

Did she wear a bra in the tap dancing episodes or did she let those bazooms flop about like under the cowl neck sweaters?

by Anonymousreply 234July 30, 2018 8:56 PM

Norman Lear is still alive at 96. There's still time for a deathbed confession about how Bonnie got that role.

by Anonymousreply 235July 30, 2018 9:01 PM

Tapa....tapa....

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by Anonymousreply 236July 30, 2018 9:02 PM

Oh, someone recently posted a 1997 appearance of hers on the old Rosie O'Donnell Show. She looks good here (though only because she's next to Rosie O'Donnell).

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by Anonymousreply 237July 30, 2018 9:03 PM

Dammit, Elisabeth Hasselback

Dammit, adopted kids

Dammit, Trump

by Anonymousreply 238July 30, 2018 9:04 PM

That's funny at 1:50. "...well, goodbye. Get back over here..."

Like Ann, Rosie also has a curious mix of OTT frivolity and a monstrous rage beneath the facade. Finally, someone even Ann's afraid of.

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by Anonymousreply 239July 30, 2018 9:07 PM

Okay, this is freaky.

In the clip where Ann was sexually harassing her in the closet intern she demanded "double mustard" for lunch.

Rosie demanded for her staff to "hold the mustard!" at Thanksgiving.

Coincidence? I think not!

by Anonymousreply 240July 30, 2018 9:12 PM

She was an incredibly selfish character. She never gave a thought to how her actions affected her daughters.

by Anonymousreply 241July 30, 2018 9:13 PM

I was maybe 8 when the show was on and I loathed her. Terrifying uptight woman.

by Anonymousreply 242July 30, 2018 9:14 PM

She and Maude were both based on Frances Lear.

by Anonymousreply 243July 30, 2018 9:20 PM

Maude definitely but Ann Romano bears no resemblance to Maude Findley. Then again, Franklin's is so one-note that it's hard to separate the character from the actress. The only other place I found that reference was......DL.

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by Anonymousreply 244July 30, 2018 9:24 PM

Ann and Maude were both ball busters.

Ann had Francine and Maude had Vivian.

by Anonymousreply 245July 30, 2018 9:30 PM

Why no one slap Ann Romano?

by Anonymousreply 246July 30, 2018 9:47 PM

Because she was THE STAR!!!!

by Anonymousreply 247July 30, 2018 9:50 PM

She held the power alright.

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by Anonymousreply 248July 30, 2018 10:44 PM

If any sitcom character needed an intense bitch slap, it was Ann Romano. Nearly everyone would stand in line slap the hell out her.

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by Anonymousreply 249July 30, 2018 11:08 PM

Bonnie before she burned her bra at R52.

The girls are at attention and up where they belong.

by Anonymousreply 250July 30, 2018 11:22 PM

The show made the Ann Romano character above reproach. She could or say anything, even unto physical assaults and sexual harassment, without consequences. Of course, after she slapped Alex and Julie, she had to appear that she regretted it and was sorry. Yet, if a man did that, he’d be banished, punished and jailed (and justifiably so). If Ann did something she was a victim of male chauvinism, or a struggling, put upon mother with no choice but to punish her daughters.

by Anonymousreply 251July 30, 2018 11:23 PM

She could even sexually harass an innocent gay man because she was aroused by his earlobes.

She doesn't get suspended or even fired.

HE QUITS!!!

#HE TOO!!!

by Anonymousreply 252July 30, 2018 11:27 PM

We almost got ANOTHER Bonnie Franklin series. Linked is a 1985 script for THE BONNIE FRANKLIN SHOW.

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by Anonymousreply 253July 30, 2018 11:33 PM

That woman was a saint!

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by Anonymousreply 254July 31, 2018 12:10 AM

Her face was so annoying, it canceled out everything else. I couldn't get past her face. My parents watched ODAAT, I couldn't stand that series. It's not that Bonnie was ugly, but there was something very off-putting about her face. I cannot tell you why. Could be she reminded me of a school teacher I had or a relative.

The yelling on the show was also super annoying, every week there was some 'drama' which wasn't all that serious. Everyone acted as if they were on speed. Running back and forth, yelling at each other or talking loud.

by Anonymousreply 255July 31, 2018 12:37 AM

To hell with the tacky no-talent floppy-titted Bonnie, what about the hottie who played her son-in-law? Any gossip?

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by Anonymousreply 256July 31, 2018 12:51 AM

Well, Seth Rudetsky liked her.

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by Anonymousreply 257July 31, 2018 12:58 AM

Apparently, Ann's slaps were contagious. That's what she passed to her daughter.

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by Anonymousreply 258July 31, 2018 12:59 AM

Not to be mean but VB had a weird nose and a monkey like appearance the first season or two.

by Anonymousreply 259July 31, 2018 1:00 AM

When you watch the Ann slaps Alex scene, you really start to identify with Alex. Ann was always a buttinsky anyways but the fact that she was so totally oblivious to his feelings shows how selfish she was. She intensifies the fight when she calls him a brat but what her body language and inflections. SHE's the brat and she sounds ridiculous. He hits her between the eyes with the comment about her being a lousy mother because her kids quit school and ran away. The pot smashing was an added attraction. She would have slapped him nonetheless.

by Anonymousreply 260July 31, 2018 1:06 AM

Ah, gorgeous Valerie carries so much insecurity in this article.

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by Anonymousreply 261July 31, 2018 1:13 AM

If anything, the show needed a strong, forceful director. He or she could have reined in Bonnie Franklin’s over the top acting. The show also needed a producer with balls, to knock that bitch down a few pegs. She had too much control over the production and as a result, the show suffered. She wore Norman Lear’s balls for earrings. She made sure that the spot light was on her only.

The best character was Ginny played by Mary Louise Wilson. She is a very gifted actress, with a strong presence. She had impeccable timing. She exposed Bonnie Franklin’s weaknesses as a performer, she made Bonnie Franklin look amateurish with very limited talent. (Which she was). As a result, Bonnie Franklin promptly banished her. Ballless and gutless Norman Lear allowed this to happen.

Bonnie Franklin was extremely lucky and overly confident. She had the connections. There were so many gifted actresses who could have brilliantly portrayed Ann Romano. The show would have been much better.

by Anonymousreply 262July 31, 2018 1:20 AM

Weren’t there also a lot of bitchslaps on Dynasty? Something about the zeitgeist of the early 80s.

by Anonymousreply 263July 31, 2018 1:26 AM

Ann Ramano drove the young Mackenzie Phillips to heroin use...there's no two ways about it.

by Anonymousreply 264July 31, 2018 1:30 AM

[quote]To hell with the tacky no-talent floppy-titted Bonnie, what about the hottie who played her son-in-law? Any gossip?

Michael Lembeck became a very famous TV director. He's consistently working. He's the son of actor Harvey Lembeck. He's been married twice, is still with his second wife, actress Lorna Patterson. Two kids with her, one with his first wife.

He's also directed the new One Day a Time Series. He's currently working on Welcome to Pine Grove! .

Mike today.

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by Anonymousreply 265July 31, 2018 1:32 AM

Well, R264, if I had to look at Bonnie Franklin all day, I’d take herion too.

by Anonymousreply 266July 31, 2018 1:36 AM

[quote]r258 Apparently, Ann's slaps were contagious. That's what she passed to her daughter.

And so the cycle of abuse continues...

by Anonymousreply 267July 31, 2018 1:37 AM

When Bonnie first met Papa John, she whispered in his ear, "That daughter of your's has a real nice ass on her. You should get a piece of that."

The rest is history.

by Anonymousreply 268July 31, 2018 2:07 AM

Mike Lembeck's friends refer to him as "Lem".

by Anonymousreply 269July 31, 2018 2:17 AM

She did have a distinctive look. Maybe that played a part in why she did so little screen work post-ODAAT. It's hard to imagine her fitting in as easily to something like Linda Lavin's role on THE OC.

by Anonymousreply 270July 31, 2018 8:22 AM

Bea Arthur wasn't good looking either.

But she had attributes. And seemed self-deprecating about her looks. Remember the "pearls or chain" scene.

But for some reason everyone seemed to speak of Ann Romano as if she were somehow appealing. No one ever expressed that she was shrill, violent, dumpy, abrasive...

She was sort of the straight woman and moral arbiter of the show -- whereas on any other, she'd have been the annoying neighbour.

by Anonymousreply 271July 31, 2018 9:53 AM

What I don’t get is Norman Lear would regularly butt heads with Carroll O’Connor, who earned his right to fight for “his vision” of the show, but he kowtowed to effing Bonnie Franklin and let her dictate which writers and actors to hire and fire? Makes no sense.

by Anonymousreply 272July 31, 2018 10:02 AM

From how Bonnie tells it Norman Lear held her in quite high esteem.

And if you watch the TONYs clip there's a scene where Lauren Bacall is making her way to her seat and behaves almost like she's meeting a dear old mentor when she encounters Bonnie.

Who knows why?

by Anonymousreply 273July 31, 2018 11:49 AM

She looked at her worst when she did that stupid smile that went with the half-chuckle and eye-roll. You know the one.

by Anonymousreply 274July 31, 2018 12:01 PM

On another thread someone joked about Glenn Scarpelli coming forward with #MeToo allegations against her.

by Anonymousreply 275July 31, 2018 12:02 PM

Can you imagine if Bonnie had read this thread while ODAAT was on the air? She'd have had a three part very special episode written in which Ann struggles to come to terms with being called ugly on a gay message board. It would feature a mirror monologue, a scene in which she punches her computer, and one in which she plops on Julie's bed and gives some earnest pep-talk.

by Anonymousreply 276July 31, 2018 1:09 PM

The 70s was a golden age for television. You didn't have to be a model to have a lead or major supporting role on a hit show. You could be in an older demographic, you could be overweight, you could be black, Jewish, or Hispanic. That said, she wasn't ugly at all. Her face was symmetrical, and her features were balanced. Her hairstyle and clothes were stylish during the time she wore them.

by Anonymousreply 277July 31, 2018 1:20 PM

Uh...look...huh...

I'm scared...huh...

Hold me...Data Lounge!

Damn it, Julie.

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by Anonymousreply 278July 31, 2018 1:36 PM

[quote]Her face was symmetrical, and her features were balanced.

She had an overbroad smile. She looked better with her mouth closed. Her main problem was her faint resemblance in the mouth and chin region to John Travolta.

by Anonymousreply 279July 31, 2018 1:38 PM

Mary Tyler Moore's look, while dated obviously, still has some charm today. Maybe it's because she was tall and slim, but Ann Romano never even looked good by standards of the day. Maybe that was a conscious choice: Bonnie didn't want to play a working single mother in lavish gowns.

Still she had no taste in clothes. Even after the show ended her style was still mostly frozen in the '70s.

Maybe for the best...

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by Anonymousreply 280July 31, 2018 1:41 PM

She dressed like a womyn's studies professor. I dread to think how she decorated her LA house. For all we now, she might have favoured that rotting avocado color scheme so beloved of her alter ego.

by Anonymousreply 281July 31, 2018 1:44 PM

Even one of these bags in 2012.

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by Anonymousreply 282July 31, 2018 1:48 PM

Do you think Justina Machado is better looking than her?

by Anonymousreply 283July 31, 2018 1:49 PM

R271, Bea Arthur was handsome woman. She was attractive and distinguished. She was an enormously talented actress and a brilliant comedienne.

Bonnie Franklin lacked all of those qualities. Bonnie Franklin actually looked like a woman from Indianapolis, except add about 50 pounds. She was dumpy, frumpy, and she never learned to dress well.

by Anonymousreply 284July 31, 2018 2:40 PM

But could Bea tap dance?

by Anonymousreply 285July 31, 2018 5:51 PM

Who knows? Bea might have tap danced early in her career. She danced in film (Mame) TV (Maude, Golden Girls) and on the stage, (Mame.)

by Anonymousreply 286July 31, 2018 8:28 PM

I’ve wondered why Bonnie Franklin did not perform much after ODAAT ended in 1985. She was a marginal actress at best, no one was interested looking at Bonnie’s falling tits and sagging ass in a black leotard with tap shoes.

I think she refused a few offers because she wanted more control over potential projects. She wanted directors who would kiss her sagging ass and who would not challenge her. She wanted a producer she could bully and dominate. That’s why she adored Norman Lear. Any other producer would put her in place and would smack her down.

She did one TV movie, while on hiatus from ODAAT. She portrayed Margaret Sanger. I haven’t seen the movie since it was shown in 1981. There is nothing on UTube. Of course, her husband, Marvin Minoff was the executive producer. No doubt, she stripped him of his balls. I would still like to see the movie again because it was an interesting story. Also, I could lacerate her acting and duly post my opinion on DL.

by Anonymousreply 287July 31, 2018 8:50 PM

Realistically, Franklin could have done something like Peter Pan but could you imagine her as Roxie or Velma? In that time frame, she might have been decent in "They're Playing Our Song" Maybe Miss Hannigan? Dammit Annie! I mean, two obnoxious redheads.

by Anonymousreply 288July 31, 2018 8:55 PM

BREAKING! Bonnie Franklin’s home! Her estate listed it for sale in 2013.

All I can say is BINGO! It’s exactly as I imagined it, tacky, cheap and ugly.

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by Anonymousreply 289July 31, 2018 8:57 PM

R289 - I expect 200 more posts about Bonnie Franklin’s tacky home.

by Anonymousreply 290July 31, 2018 8:58 PM

OMG, that IS hilarious. Is that carpeting in the bathroom?

by Anonymousreply 291July 31, 2018 9:00 PM

Wow. I was expecting fug, but not to that degree.

by Anonymousreply 292July 31, 2018 9:06 PM

The kitchen is ugly, the whole house is bad.

by Anonymousreply 293July 31, 2018 9:06 PM

Look at the fucking red kitchen! It looks like a shabby employee room in a Target store. The eye blinding red could induce a headache. Ann Romano’s kitchen looks much better in comparison.

by Anonymousreply 294July 31, 2018 9:08 PM

Y'all are mean.

by Anonymousreply 295July 31, 2018 9:16 PM

The green carpet in the bedroom was freshly vacuumed. The “art” work is a disaster. It looks like she raided a Goodwill store.

by Anonymousreply 296July 31, 2018 9:16 PM

I refuse to believe she lived in this house looking like this.

by Anonymousreply 297July 31, 2018 9:21 PM

Add me to the "Oh it can't be tha-a-a........oh...my...God" list.

by Anonymousreply 298July 31, 2018 9:22 PM

There must be more than one Bonnie Franklin out there.

by Anonymousreply 299July 31, 2018 9:45 PM

Yes, 299. How many Bonnie Franklins are actresses who starred in “One Day At A Time”? This is per real the real estate article with pictures of her home, as posted above.

by Anonymousreply 300July 31, 2018 9:59 PM

Are we actually talking about Justina Machado's house?

by Anonymousreply 301July 31, 2018 10:10 PM

It’s unimaginable; nearly 285 posts revile Bonnie Franklin. When pictures of her home are shown, some people are shocked that Bonnie Franklin lived there. She had horrible taste. That’s not surprising.

by Anonymousreply 302July 31, 2018 10:20 PM

Was there a horn on the door of the loo?

by Anonymousreply 303July 31, 2018 10:24 PM

We really shouldn't be surprised R302, since we just started talking about her horrible taste in clothes. But that house exceeded anyone's wildest imagination.

by Anonymousreply 304July 31, 2018 11:17 PM

DAMMIT BARBARA!!!!

by Anonymousreply 305July 31, 2018 11:48 PM

I’m shocked!

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by Anonymousreply 306July 31, 2018 11:54 PM

“Serial Killer” red paint was splattered all over the kitchen. It’s like drowning in a blood bag. Who designed this kitchen? Jame Gumb?

by Anonymousreply 307August 1, 2018 12:23 AM

All that...red. Red everywhere. Except that god awful green carpeting.

Her home literally was Ann Romano!

by Anonymousreply 308August 1, 2018 1:01 AM

I wonder if the new owners gutted it or just tore it down? You can almost smell the dirty pantyhose in the green carpeted room.

by Anonymousreply 309August 1, 2018 1:09 AM

Here's the Bonster serving up Old Hollywood glamour, bitches.

Where did that cleavage end?

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by Anonymousreply 310August 1, 2018 1:52 AM

Some people here feel about Bonnie Franklin the way I feel about...Susan Richardson!!!

At least Bonnie had a modicum of talent. Though her singing won her no prizes.

She could tap...

by Anonymousreply 311August 1, 2018 2:17 AM

I love how the realtor doesn't even pretend the house has any appeal: "Bring your contractor to redesign this home into a masterpiece. "

by Anonymousreply 312August 1, 2018 2:25 AM

I wonder how long she owned that house. The color scheme seems to be very 70s-inspired.

by Anonymousreply 313August 1, 2018 2:30 AM

I think she was cute but sadly it doesn’t age well.

by Anonymousreply 314August 1, 2018 2:32 AM

If we are being real here most of us would LOVE to have a house as nice as that

by Anonymousreply 315August 1, 2018 3:00 AM

Glenn in 2016.

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by Anonymousreply 316August 1, 2018 3:13 AM

R315 I'd LOVE to have a van as nice as yours.

by Anonymousreply 317August 1, 2018 3:21 AM

IMO, Franklin looked like a short stumpy cross eyed jew with fat little legs.

I hope that I'm not be too harsh.

by Anonymousreply 318August 1, 2018 5:19 AM

R315 what is this van thing you speak of? We've heard of tents.

by Anonymousreply 319August 1, 2018 9:09 AM

[quote]OMG, that IS hilarious. Is that carpeting in the bathroom?

Who the hell was that in the trumpet painting, Herb Alpert?!

Can believe that crappy house sold for over $2 million, money sure doesn't go very far these days.

by Anonymousreply 320August 1, 2018 9:26 AM

I also threw in 50 VHS copies of “I Love To Tap” at no charge.

by Anonymousreply 321August 1, 2018 10:21 AM

Paint the red kitchen and its fine. Good floor, the essential window over the sink, and even a door! Ample cupboard space. I will assume all that cabinetry is red-painted solid wood.

by Anonymousreply 322August 1, 2018 10:48 AM

Bonnie Franklin’s house deserves a new thread.

by Anonymousreply 323August 1, 2018 11:12 AM

Bonnie Franklin’s house deserves a Molotov cocktail.

by Anonymousreply 324August 1, 2018 11:17 AM

[quote]I wonder how long she owned that house. The color scheme seems to be very 70s-inspired.

I want to imagine she bought it in 2004. It was all done in beige and had a brand new Tuscan kitchen with chrome finishes everywhere and a white marble bathroom -- and Bonnie decided to rip it all out and redo it in classic '70s style. Perhaps to remind her of her heyday.

by Anonymousreply 325August 1, 2018 12:55 PM

[quote]Bonnie Franklin’s house deserves a new thread.

Yeah. "Refurb or tear down (pics at link)"

by Anonymousreply 326August 1, 2018 12:57 PM

That bright red kitchen. Now we know why she was so angry.

by Anonymousreply 327August 1, 2018 12:57 PM

I had that haircut at R310 when I was eleven. Hard to serve up Old Hollywood glamour with it.

As for where the cleavage ends, I don't think anyone really is interested in finding out.

by Anonymousreply 328August 1, 2018 1:06 PM

R328 Are you a boy? I bet that haircut looked cute on you at 11. Tres Robbie Benson and all the Tiger Beat heart throbs.

by Anonymousreply 329August 1, 2018 3:04 PM

Fascist in pantyhose.

by Anonymousreply 330August 2, 2018 2:05 AM

Redheads don't usually look good in red, or pink..

It's interesting she chose to essentially give herself an entirely red backdrop in what's probably the most-used room in the house.

Maybe it was her special blend [italic]Bonnie Red.

by Anonymousreply 331August 2, 2018 2:43 AM

For years I thought that she was Irish. When I read about her death, I found out that she was a Jew...

by Anonymousreply 332August 2, 2018 3:30 AM

I wonder what her family's original name was.

Frankavitz?

by Anonymousreply 333August 2, 2018 3:37 AM

I suspect she's related to that other red-capped, hyper-annoying TV star, Franklin the Turtle.

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by Anonymousreply 334August 2, 2018 3:48 AM

Any thoughts on what kind of hairstyle WOULD have suited her?

by Anonymousreply 335August 2, 2018 7:04 AM

I don't know....the whole point of her character was she was supposed to be an ordinary working mom...like she just got out of the shower, brushed her hair, and headed out the door. It's like Ann Ramona was doomed to be blah.

If you put Ann in a more conventional 1975 hairdo, you'd be thinking, "Where'd she get the time for [italic]that?"

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by Anonymousreply 336August 2, 2018 7:24 AM

The choices weren't all that great....

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by Anonymousreply 337August 2, 2018 7:30 AM

[quote]For years I thought that she was Irish. When I read about her death, I found out that she was a Jew...

I always suspected she was Jewish. I've known many naturally redheaded Jewish people and some of them did look stereotypically Irish.

Whatever Bonnie was, she was damn annoying!

by Anonymousreply 338August 2, 2018 7:30 AM

When I watched the show in reruns growing up I assumed that she was probably a lez in real life. I just got that vibe (and I was a kid and that type of thing was usually not on my mind). But unless she was in a lavender marriage I guess I was wrong...

by Anonymousreply 339August 2, 2018 7:54 AM

If only she'd made some Lifetime original movies....

by Anonymousreply 340August 2, 2018 8:28 AM

Is this a dumb question? Can you be both Jewish and Irish?

by Anonymousreply 341August 2, 2018 8:47 AM

I don't see why not, R341. In today's society you can be anything you want to call yourself. And God forbid someone should ask about it. The SJWs will be at their door in a New York minute.

by Anonymousreply 342August 2, 2018 9:08 AM

[quote]Is this a dumb question? Can you be both Jewish and Irish?

Not a dumb question at all. Of course you can. IIRC, a former Lord Mayor in Ireland was Jewish.

It's funny because people always use the term 'Jewish' as if it's the person's nationality. It's religion, so I never understood why people say, ""I'm Jewish." There are Polish, Russian, German and even African and Italian Jews. I worked with a Chinese women with a heavy Brooklyn accent who was Jewish. Her husband was an Italian Jew.

by Anonymousreply 343August 2, 2018 10:53 AM

Bad Hair, Bad Clothes, Not really likable as a personality, but not ugly in the literal sense. Not pretty either.

by Anonymousreply 344August 2, 2018 11:02 AM

I believe Bonnie's mother was from Romania and her father was from Russia. She also wasn't a natural red head, as evidence by her hair in her appearances on Gidget and other shows in the '60s, plus she admitted it in that Rosie O' interview. I wonder if she would have looked better with her natural dark brown hair.

by Anonymousreply 345August 2, 2018 11:03 AM

I could never understand how such a shrill, annoying and completely humorless actress got the lead on a sitcom. WTF was behind Norman Lear's decision to cast Bonnie Franklin? Surely there were a good number of talented and funny actresses at the time who would've been much better.

by Anonymousreply 346August 2, 2018 12:37 PM

[quote]Is this a dumb question? Can you be both Jewish and Irish?

I've never met an Irish Jew, but I personally know a Scottish Jew. His family has been in Scotland since the 17th century.

by Anonymousreply 347August 2, 2018 12:39 PM

Don't forget me, R343!

by Anonymousreply 348August 2, 2018 1:34 PM

Actually she was pretty.

by Anonymousreply 349August 2, 2018 6:27 PM

I'd call her "presentable".

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by Anonymousreply 350August 2, 2018 6:54 PM

R346, Bonnie Franklin had connections, plus her Tony nomination propelled her. It was luck and timing. I, too found her to be annoying, hammy, shrill and over the top. She was a screaming banshee, a grating fishwife and a thoroughgoing shrew who paraded around as she were Marilyn Monroe, Meryl Streep, Bill “Bojanglels” Robinson, and Mary Martin. She was over confident about her abilities.

She carried Norman Lear’s balls for her purse, and there were no directors who were strong enough to stand up to her. Also, she was friends with Whitney Blake who created the show. She was granted creative control, which was a mistake. The show does not stand the test of time.

by Anonymousreply 351August 2, 2018 6:56 PM

She was the terror of tinytown

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by Anonymousreply 352August 2, 2018 7:04 PM

Better than Susan Richardson!

by Anonymousreply 353August 2, 2018 7:07 PM

Why the hell did she wear that baggy, low hanging sweater? She would have looked much better in a tailored dress or pantsuit. I couldn’t stand that bitch, but she had a slim figure.

by Anonymousreply 354August 2, 2018 7:07 PM

She was a SERIOUS ACTRESS. She didn't need to HAWK HER TITS!

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by Anonymousreply 355August 2, 2018 7:15 PM

Why come Whitney Blake never made a guest appearance?

by Anonymousreply 356August 2, 2018 7:15 PM

Whitney Blake was a fox.

by Anonymousreply 357August 2, 2018 11:09 PM

She’s rat faced and spastic. She also has crazy eyes.

Bea Arthur was a damn goddess! Dammit Julie wasn’t even in the same LEAGUE!

by Anonymousreply 358August 2, 2018 11:39 PM

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by Anonymousreply 359August 2, 2018 11:46 PM

No way.

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by Anonymousreply 360August 2, 2018 11:53 PM

Bea Arthur was a fucking GENIUS. Nobody could deliver a sarcastic line or a withering glare like Bea could. Nobody. Bonnie Franklin was nowhere near Bea's level of talent.

by Anonymousreply 361August 3, 2018 12:01 AM

Ann Wedgworth won a featured actress Tony in the clip above. and she mentions John Cazale

by Anonymousreply 362August 3, 2018 12:39 AM

R351 Yes, that is the most likely explanation for her weirdly successful career.

by Anonymousreply 363August 3, 2018 1:52 AM

[quote]I'd call her "presentable".

Would you go so far as "jolie laide?"

by Anonymousreply 364August 3, 2018 2:58 AM

I like her "jugs." They have character.

by Anonymousreply 365August 3, 2018 3:07 AM

More Old School Hollywood Glamour from Bonnie

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by Anonymousreply 366August 3, 2018 4:46 AM

Take me to Neverland.

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by Anonymousreply 367August 3, 2018 4:54 AM

[quote]r364 Would you go so far as "jolie laide?"

No. She doesn't deserve to be called anything in French.

Maybe Yiddish, with all the stupid [italic]schmattas[/italic] she dragged around.

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by Anonymousreply 368August 3, 2018 5:37 AM

Mackenzie Phillips coke face - -

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by Anonymousreply 369August 3, 2018 5:42 AM

R369 fuck how many TV Guide covers did they get? It wasn’t even THAT high rated a show.

by Anonymousreply 370August 3, 2018 6:03 AM

I haven't watched any of the re-boot on Netflix. Is there a lot of slapping now?

by Anonymousreply 371August 3, 2018 6:27 AM

maybe one of the kids, or the grandma, wears a cast...

by Anonymousreply 372August 3, 2018 6:30 AM

r366 that skit looks like something that would be playing in the fourth ring of hell.

by Anonymousreply 373August 3, 2018 12:15 PM

R359 Bonnie deserves a hard slap for that pose. And that goddamn sweater! Not one soul is interested in your side tit, you unsexy thing, you.

by Anonymousreply 374August 3, 2018 7:32 PM

[quote] Would you go so far as "jolie laide?"

Bonnie is more Jade Jolie. As a boy.

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by Anonymousreply 375August 4, 2018 12:22 AM

She was fug and so was her great great grandfather Benjamin. What a fuggo.

by Anonymousreply 376August 4, 2018 3:14 AM

[quote]I haven't watched any of the re-boot on Netflix. Is there a lot of slapping now?

I haven't seen it either, but I assume not. I don't think that's allowed nowadays. For all of Ann Romano's '70s progressiveness, I don't think any other TV mother was so quick to slap their children.

by Anonymousreply 377August 5, 2018 8:11 AM

She must've had connections. Doesn't anyone have details?

by Anonymousreply 378August 5, 2018 1:45 PM

Her father was an investment banker and lived in Beverly Hills, so...

by Anonymousreply 379August 5, 2018 2:00 PM

R377 and Alex wasn't even her child.

by Anonymousreply 380August 5, 2018 2:41 PM

Her father was one of the principal backers of Howard the Duck as well.

by Anonymousreply 381August 5, 2018 2:46 PM

Her IMDb offers this description of her looks:

[quote]Bonnie Franklin, of the freckled, fair-skinned, hazel-eyed, rosy-cheeked, carrot-haired variety, could light up a room with her buoyant, folksy personality

by Anonymousreply 382August 5, 2018 3:16 PM

Did she write that herself? Or did some Datalounger?

by Anonymousreply 383August 5, 2018 5:36 PM

Thanks to DL, I can never look at Bonnie Franklin without thinking "dirty pantyhose."

by Anonymousreply 384August 5, 2018 5:38 PM

Who was better looking: Bonnie or Mackenzie Phillips in the throes of drug addiction?

by Anonymousreply 385August 5, 2018 7:05 PM

[quote]Bonnie Franklin, of the freckled, fair-skinned, hazel-eyed, rosy-cheeked, carrot-haired variety, could light up a room with her buoyant, folksy personality

So? I could light up a room with my farts, but I don't consider that a positive quality.

by Anonymousreply 386August 5, 2018 9:10 PM

I predict this thread will max out at 600 posts.

by Anonymousreply 387August 5, 2018 10:38 PM

Her hairdo looked like the top of a penis.

by Anonymousreply 388August 6, 2018 1:10 PM

She wasn't ugly, she was cute, but the character of Ann Romano was not likable, certainly by contemporary standards. I wonder if at the time, because she was such a new type of character if she was empowering for women, just because she was so hostile, contrary and aggressive. Maude was the same in many respects, but the character of Maude was often the butt of the joke, I don't think Ann Romano was ever the butt of the joke.

by Anonymousreply 389August 6, 2018 1:24 PM

Maude worked because Bea Arthur was truly funny and had impeccable timing.

by Anonymousreply 390August 6, 2018 1:32 PM

She was ordinary, rather dowdy looking. Her wardrobe taste was abysmal. She should’ve ditched those low cut sweaters, the hideous cow necks and the other frumpy wear. She had a good figure and tailored clothes looked good on her.

Time was not kind to her. She did look like a “Women’s Studies” professor without the Birkenstocks. (Although Bonnie Franklin would be the type to wear Birkenstocks.) She reminded me of “Velma” in “Scooby Doo”.

She wore a lot of black, which did her no favors in her later life. Redheads with freckles look terrible, generally, in black clothes. It’s too bad that Mr. Blackwell didn’t zing her on his worst dressed celebrity list.

by Anonymousreply 391August 6, 2018 3:05 PM

She would have had to have been a celebrity for him to do that, r391.

by Anonymousreply 392August 6, 2018 3:09 PM

R391 did you have to bring that up? She was #2 on the list in 1982 behind.......Princess Diana.

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by Anonymousreply 393August 6, 2018 4:10 PM

And ahead of Dustin Hoffman as Tootsie. Those lists were funny.

by Anonymousreply 394August 6, 2018 4:21 PM

What did Mr. Blackwell say about Bonnie Franklin on his 1982 worst dressed list? I can’t find the exact quote.

by Anonymousreply 395August 6, 2018 4:50 PM

ODAAT and Facts of Life used to tape next store to each other at Norman Lear 's Sunset Gower Studios, in 1982 BOTH Bonnie and Charlotte Rae were nominated for the Best Actress in a Comedy Series Emmy award.

I wonder if these two redheads catfought each other in the studio lot?

by Anonymousreply 396August 6, 2018 4:52 PM

Girls, girls -- you're BOTH ugly.

by Anonymousreply 397August 6, 2018 4:56 PM

R395 Blackwell's comments on his 1982 picks:

LOS ANGELES (AP) Britain’s Princess Diana, described as “tacky and dowdy” after rummaging in “Queen Victoria’s attic,” has topped acid-tongued designer Richard Blackwell’s annual list of the world’s Ten Worst-Dressed Women. Mr. Blackwell, as he prefers to be known, also gave a special “award” to first lady Nancy Reagan for “the fashion flop of the year” wearing “knickers” to a formal reception in Paris. Of Princess Diana, he said: “She has gone from a very young, independent, fresh look to a tacky, dowdy look.” He said it looks as if “shy Di has invaded Queen Victoria’s attic.” Blackwell, announcing his 23rd annual fashion snipes in the antique-filled living room of his home, expressed dismay at Diana’s public appearance in a bikini swimsuit. “The whole world should not see the future Queen of England half naked,” Blackwell said.

The 10 worst in order were Princess Diana; actress Bonnie Franklin, “not Charlie’s Aunt, but Aunt Charlie;” actress Victoria Principal, “a Dallas Valley Girl;” singer Bette Midler, “second hand Rose after a hurricane;” actress Charlene Tilton, “a Victorian lampshade holding her breath;” Christina Onassis, “Daddy’s tanker”; Princess Yasmin Khan; golfer Jan Stephenson, “Mrs. Miniver in a tu-tu;” television star Cathy Lee Crosby, “looks as if she bought out a rummage sale.” The choice for No. 10 was a tie between Dustin Hoffman in his "Tootsie” starring role and a lookalike, Mayor Kathy Whitmire of Houston.

by Anonymousreply 398August 6, 2018 5:00 PM

I remember seeing that hideous People magazine cover at R65.

My mother was in line to check out at the grocery store. I was a naive child who spoke loudly. And I asked my mom, "Why does that woman in the middle look so dumb?"

by Anonymousreply 399August 6, 2018 5:09 PM

This was a good show.

Somebody should reboot it.

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by Anonymousreply 400August 6, 2018 8:04 PM

Already done, R400.

by Anonymousreply 401August 7, 2018 10:42 AM

R401, I'm pretty sure R400 was making a funny.

by Anonymousreply 402August 7, 2018 4:20 PM

I wonder how many red-blooded lads bust their first nut while fantasizing over pics of Ms. Romano and her imagined nether garden of auburn bush and soft pink vulva.

by Anonymousreply 403August 7, 2018 9:40 PM

Bonnie Franklin looks like an hard divorcee in the 70's. A cunt with limited professional skills but doing the best she can.

by Anonymousreply 404August 7, 2018 10:01 PM

Was it ever explained how she got that job? Aside from it being the 1970s.

by Anonymousreply 405August 8, 2018 8:10 AM

r405 she had a lot of pluck and a can-do attitude! I guess that's how one got a job at an ad agency in the 70s.

by Anonymousreply 406August 8, 2018 12:13 PM

Was Bonnie ever considered for the role of Alex in 'Fatal Attraction'? I think she would have been perfect, I could totally here her saying, 'I'm not going to be ignored, Dan!'

by Anonymousreply 407August 10, 2018 3:03 PM

I hate boiling bunnies on the stove, but I love to tap!

by Anonymousreply 408August 10, 2018 5:30 PM

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by Anonymousreply 409August 10, 2018 10:53 PM

I won’t be ignored, David.

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by Anonymousreply 410August 10, 2018 10:55 PM

All of Julie’s boyfriends secretly wanted to bone Ms. Romano.

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by Anonymousreply 411August 10, 2018 10:57 PM

The photo at R411 even has dirty pantyhose (and attendant smell, one imagines)!

by Anonymousreply 412August 10, 2018 11:07 PM

That apartment was fucking hideous.

by Anonymousreply 413August 10, 2018 11:18 PM

Her character always seemed overly angry.

I've only seen a few episodes of the show, but it doesn't seem watchable if that's how she always acted.

by Anonymousreply 414August 10, 2018 11:48 PM

[Quote]The photo at [R411] even has dirty pantyhose (and attendant smell, one imagines)!

I hadn't noticed, I was distracted by the hot guy with the nice bulge.

by Anonymousreply 415August 11, 2018 1:41 PM

R415, I agree.

by Anonymousreply 416August 11, 2018 1:44 PM

Not hideous. But plain enough to make one wonder what connections she had to gain the lead role of a primetime TV series.

God knows it wasn't down to talent.

by Anonymousreply 417November 9, 2018 4:06 PM

Bonnie wasn't stupid. She got her boobs out so people wouldn't notice how homely her face was.

by Anonymousreply 418November 9, 2018 4:25 PM

I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall in Bonnie's living room on this night.

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by Anonymousreply 419November 10, 2018 4:08 AM

I think she'd have made an excellent Delores Umbridge in an American version of HP.

by Anonymousreply 420November 10, 2018 7:16 AM

I bet Bonnie thought MLW was done when she left ODAAT.

Bonnie often talked in interviews while the show was on about how she hated TV and did it only so she could get back to NY and do her real passion of theater, with the implication that someone was willing to cast her.

Anyway, R419, I bet a more than a few Dammit!s were exclaimed on that night. She might even had locked herself into her bedroom.

by Anonymousreply 421November 10, 2018 10:07 AM

Yes. And Mackenzie Phillips was, too.

by Anonymousreply 422November 10, 2018 11:17 AM

Mackenzie had a 'real' look to her; that benefited the character. You'd never have seen her cast on TV any decade outside the '70s.

by Anonymousreply 423November 10, 2018 11:23 AM

Mack was tall and thin (snort, snort) but it didn't look gamine or willowly on her, just gangly and awkward. Though better than squat pixie Ann.

by Anonymousreply 424November 10, 2018 11:24 AM

MacKenzie was great as the combative daughter, though. Bonnie just sucked.

by Anonymousreply 425November 10, 2018 1:00 PM

Yes, Mack was great. The best cast member by far. She really worked as the difficult teenager. And funny.

by Anonymousreply 426November 10, 2018 1:05 PM

Mary Louise Wilson dishes:

[quote]Another character who seemingly disappeared without explanation was neighbor Ginny Wroblicki, a brassy cocktail waitress played by Mary Louise Wilson. Wilson had been appearing on and off Broadway since 1962, and it was while she was appearing in a revival of Gypsy that Lear offered her the role of Ginny. Wilson accepted the job based on Lear’s track record, but she quickly decided that One Day at a Time was no All in the Family. She and Bonnie Franklin never saw eye-to-eye (pun intended: in her 2015 autobiography, Wilson described Franklin as constantly giving her a glassy, semi-cross-eyed gaze as she critiqued Wilson’s performance), and she never got comfortable with the four-camera filming process. Like Masur, she pleaded her case to Lear and was released from her contract at the end of season two.

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by Anonymousreply 427November 10, 2018 4:23 PM

Franklin hated Mary Louise because she was better and funnier than Franklin. Stealing every scene she was in.

by Anonymousreply 428November 10, 2018 5:03 PM

Did Masur leave because of Bonnie too?

by Anonymousreply 429November 10, 2018 6:23 PM

That post seems to link them... I wonder why an actor who had nothing better to do would beg to let Norman Lear to let them go?

That mention of Franklin in her autobiography seems to contradict what she had previously said, that Franklin had nothing to do with her departure.

by Anonymousreply 430November 10, 2018 8:23 PM

Franklin's Tony Award performance was her version of Ann Reinking's Oscar performance.

by Anonymousreply 431November 10, 2018 8:32 PM

Why haven’t they rebooted THIS piece of shit sitcom?

Or “Welcome Back Kotter”?

by Anonymousreply 432November 10, 2018 9:01 PM

They have. It's now Hispanicized.

by Anonymousreply 433November 10, 2018 9:14 PM

[quote]Why haven’t they rebooted THIS piece of shit sitcom?

There are already two seasons on Netflix.

by Anonymousreply 434November 10, 2018 10:03 PM

R434, are you kidding me? I was kidding.

by Anonymousreply 435November 10, 2018 10:18 PM

I wouldn't say she could ever have been called pretty. But she wasn't ugly. She had a kind of attractiveness, I guess. But she was no sex symbol. The People magazine cover photo of her with her breast exposed is ridiculous. What the hell was she (and the photographer who took the photo) thinking.

Mackenzie Phillips as Julie was also never anything approaching pretty, but her Ann called her "a knock out" and she always had hot guys after her. One two parter had TWO hot guys are vying to be her husband, and at the time she looked like a corpse (she was in the throes of drug addiction). It was so unbelievable.

I always thought Valerie Bertinelli was "cute" rather than pretty. She was the best looking of the three of them. But her looks were overrated, too.

by Anonymousreply 436November 10, 2018 10:30 PM

I am not sure if r432/r435 is joking or not, so...

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by Anonymousreply 437November 10, 2018 11:04 PM

Mary Louise never fit on this show. She wasn't funny.

by Anonymousreply 438November 10, 2018 11:11 PM

Not being funny is the main requirement to fitting in on ODAAT.

by Anonymousreply 439November 11, 2018 8:19 AM

A good twenty years younger than Rose and Blanche on the Golden Girls who never seemed to have trouble getting dates.

by Anonymousreply 440November 11, 2018 8:55 AM

So, by '70s standards, no.

By modern standards... mhm..

by Anonymousreply 441November 11, 2018 8:55 AM

Mackenzie Phillips as Julie was also never anything approaching pretty, but her Ann c̶a̶l̶l̶e̶d̶ ̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶"̶a̶ ̶k̶n̶o̶c̶k̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶"̶ said she "put out" and she always had hot guys after her.

by Anonymousreply 442November 11, 2018 8:58 AM

r425

Yes, Julie was one of, if not the first, bad child. Other children were bad, but they were not main characters, like Eddie Haskell, or were somehow led into it by another.

Julie could be mean, selfish and downright rotten to people, which at least made her interesting.

by Anonymousreply 443November 11, 2018 9:00 AM

Her gawky looks, acne, and slightly off face added a refreshing dose of realism to Julie, especially when compared to other TV kids at the time (like Bertinelli).

She was a much better actress than Bonnie too. I'm surprised Bonnie didn't try to get her fired.

by Anonymousreply 444November 11, 2018 9:04 AM

Do you think she would've looked better with the Jane Fonda Klute hairstyle?

by Anonymousreply 445November 11, 2018 9:14 AM

But Bonnie did get her fired.

by Anonymousreply 446November 11, 2018 4:31 PM

I though Mack left due to her health problems. An interview was posted on here with Bonnie saying she was welcome back whenever she felt like it. And she did make some guest appearances in the later seasons. And Bonnie and her were apparently on good terms after the show ended.

Not like Mary Louise who was banished to Siberia.

by Anonymousreply 447November 11, 2018 7:42 PM

BF seemed like she was in a different TV show than everybody else. She was doing too much with her acting. There was no physical resemblance between her and Mackenzie Phillips. Valerie Bertinelli was more plausibly BF's daughter.

by Anonymousreply 448November 11, 2018 9:00 PM

There's no way Ed Cooper would have married her

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by Anonymousreply 449November 11, 2018 9:11 PM

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Bonnie and Linda Lavin swapping roles. It would have made both shows better. Lavin really does seem like an Ann Romano and Franklin might have brought out a different side with a young son.

by Anonymousreply 450November 11, 2018 10:04 PM

That's been suggested before and probably would've been better: Lavin as a more mature, less naive divorcee; Franklin as a perkier, more optimistic waitress cum aspiring singer.

by Anonymousreply 451November 12, 2018 7:00 AM

She was perfect in the part.

by Anonymousreply 452December 1, 2018 2:56 AM

ugly. ugly,ugly,ugly. ESPECIALLY hated her weirdo mannerisms. pure affectation.

by Anonymousreply 453December 1, 2018 3:09 AM

A rare deleted scene with Bonnie & MacKenzie that appeared on the Season One DVD.

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by Anonymousreply 454December 1, 2018 3:16 AM

😎😂☺😊

by Anonymousreply 455December 1, 2018 3:20 AM

Strident, hectoring and obnoxious. Horrible to her mother and well, let’s not discuss what happened to her oldest daugher, shall we.

by Anonymousreply 456December 1, 2018 3:24 AM

She was sex personified.

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by Anonymousreply 457December 1, 2018 4:19 AM

She had one great set of tits on her.

by Anonymousreply 458December 1, 2018 7:05 AM

And our Annie had NO PROBLEM wearing shirts open to the waist!

It was her way.

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by Anonymousreply 459December 1, 2018 7:55 AM

r447

Phillips last stint on the show was subject to her taking random drug tests, and when one random test came up, she refused so they told her "goodbye" and wrote her out.

Despite Phillips trouble, there was never any major problems between Bonnie Franklin, Valerie Bertinelli, Pat Harrington and her. None of those actors/actresses felt any animosity toward her (probably because her departure didn't really hurt the show much). They felt for Mackenzie, even Bertinelli says she was doing pretty much the same drugs with Eddie Van Halen and she felt a bit guilty for it. Though Mackenzie's use was effecting the show and Valerie's was not.

by Anonymousreply 460December 1, 2018 8:32 AM

She was attractive to many.

by Anonymousreply 461March 30, 2019 9:34 PM

Not pretty in any way, but she had a soothing . calm , demeanor about her and was perfectly cast in that role.

by Anonymousreply 462March 30, 2019 11:55 PM

This bitch and her bundt cake hair

by Anonymousreply 463March 30, 2019 11:57 PM

OP, she was sexy. Because of her bouncing, bra-less titties, every young white man in suburban America in the 1970s dug through his mom's closet to find a synthetic green cowl neck sweater to masturbate into.

by Anonymousreply 464March 31, 2019 12:04 AM

Whenever I hear someone had pancreatic cancer, I wonder if alcoholism was the cause.

by Anonymousreply 465March 31, 2019 12:13 AM

Dammit, OP!

by Anonymousreply 466March 31, 2019 12:15 AM

For an actress, I'd vote ugly. For an ordinary frau, average.

by Anonymousreply 467March 31, 2019 12:18 AM

A housemate insisted on watching this show in its original run, so I had to suffer through it.

Lavin would have been better in the role--her tendency toward being a yenta would have helped the premise. Whatever her cuntishness as a colleague, at least she had better comic timing than Franklin. Of all the Norman Lear comedies, this was the one that seemed less well developed. The problems of raising tennagers who look nothing alike (or their parents) goes back to Father Knows Best and Ozzie & harriett (where the teens actually were related). Single parent sitcomes went back to My Three Sons and had been done in dramas like The Rifleman and Bonanza. Even divorce wasn't new--DL fave Vivian Vance pioneered it on the excrable Lucy Show.

Franklin's "I hate Hollywood, I belong on Broadway" schtick was over the hill by the time the show was on. NYC was at its nadir by that point and the people who said stuff ike this usually were people like Tina Louise. From the present day, she seems like Debra Jo Rupp w/o the comic timing.

by Anonymousreply 468March 31, 2019 1:20 AM

I wonder what Bacall thought of Franklin. Or if she did. I can think of few people more bound to bring out the Urge To Kill than Bonnie.

by Anonymousreply 469March 31, 2019 6:10 AM

[quote]Because of her bouncing, bra-less titties, every young white man in suburban America in the 1970s dug through his mom's closet to find a synthetic green cowl neck sweater to masturbate into.

Uh, you realize you’re on a gay message board, right? Ya know, frequented by gay men? Just askin’.

by Anonymousreply 470March 31, 2019 12:02 PM

I knew she would be with City National Bank! So classy, and I bet she frequented the branch on Santa Monica Blvd. in West Hollywood to excite her gay fans.

by Anonymousreply 471March 31, 2019 1:16 PM

[quote]Bonnie Franklin, of the freckled, fair-skinned, hazel-eyed, rosy-cheeked, carrot-haired variety

She had, how you say, a fresh, freckled face..,

by Anonymousreply 472March 31, 2019 1:39 PM

Cute as a button!

by Anonymousreply 473March 31, 2019 3:48 PM

R468, what could Franklin have done on Broadway at that time? Cassie in ACL? Roxie in Chicago? And then the ALW shows began in the 80s. Grizabella? Damn it, Midnight!

by Anonymousreply 474March 31, 2019 4:02 PM

^^Cats maybe?

by Anonymousreply 475March 31, 2019 4:02 PM

The Tap Dance Kid.

by Anonymousreply 476March 31, 2019 5:51 PM

They're Playing Our Song.

by Anonymousreply 477March 31, 2019 6:37 PM

R477, that one's actually not a bad idea, or at least you could sort of see her in it.

by Anonymousreply 478March 31, 2019 8:24 PM

she couldn’t act.

by Anonymousreply 479March 31, 2019 11:15 PM

R479, to be honest, she couldn't sing or dance either and had an irritating personality.

by Anonymousreply 480March 31, 2019 11:50 PM

Here's Bonnie trying to break up a gay couple with Crisco.

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by Anonymousreply 481March 31, 2019 11:52 PM

R481-Both of those guys at the beginning are handsome. I'm sure most DL Queens would not kick them out of bed.

by Anonymousreply 482March 31, 2019 11:56 PM

No gays were allowed on the original ODAAT for some reason.

by Anonymousreply 483April 1, 2019 2:50 AM

R483, does Glenn Scarpelli ring a bell?

by Anonymousreply 484April 1, 2019 3:26 AM

Franklin says on her tap dancing instruction video that she started teaching tap at 12. 12?

by Anonymousreply 485April 1, 2019 3:42 AM

Scarpelli was into girls on the show.

by Anonymousreply 486April 1, 2019 3:58 AM

She's died of pancreatic cancer. Do you what a horrible end that is? I was no fan of hers, but expending all this energy on pickjing the bones of a dead woman you didn't admire seems a waste of energy. We only live so bloody long. How she looked with a particualr haircut in a cowl sweater? Is that something that bears directly on your present life? Maybe contribute something useful to the world.

by Anonymousreply 487April 1, 2019 4:33 AM

She looked like a real-life Lois Griffin.

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by Anonymousreply 488April 1, 2019 5:35 AM

R487 What don't do understand about "pointlessly bitchy"?

by Anonymousreply 489April 1, 2019 5:43 AM

R487, new here are ya?

by Anonymousreply 490April 1, 2019 11:25 AM

[quote]does Glenn Scarpelli ring a bell?

Oh, he does more than that, honey.

by Anonymousreply 491April 1, 2019 11:25 AM

Norman Lear was enamored of ‘unconventional’ looking actresses like Bonnie, Bea, and Louise Lasser. Can we please have a thread about Lasser and ‘Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman’?

by Anonymousreply 492April 1, 2019 2:38 PM

R487 = Humorless lesbian with Bonnie Franklin fetish.

by Anonymousreply 493April 1, 2019 3:42 PM

[quote] Norman Lear was enamored of ‘unconventional’ looking actresses like Bonnie, Bea, and Louise Lasser. Can we please have a thread about Lasser and ‘Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman’?

I'm still trying to wrap my head around Woody Allen and Louise Lasser being married. Or Bea Arthur hating Betty White (which one is the bitch? both of them?)

by Anonymousreply 494April 1, 2019 9:57 PM

Lear was on a talk show and a member of the audience asked why all the black female leads on his show were fat. The woman who asked it, ironically, was a fat African American woman. Lear copped out by saying that on "The Jeffersons", Roxie Roker is not fat. On "Good Times" Ja'net Dubois is not fat. On "All's Fair", Lee Chamberlain is not fat. The fat audience member shot back that the mother on What's Happening is fat to which Lear gleefully answered "that's not my show."

by Anonymousreply 495April 2, 2019 4:08 AM

[487] here. I'm not new at all to the site. I've posted as "Liv Ullmann enthusiast." The quality of humor has steadily declined over the years since I discovered it, via the Gore Vidal speaking from the afterlife thread. That was hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 496April 2, 2019 6:06 AM

SHAME!

SHAME!

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by Anonymousreply 497April 2, 2019 6:17 AM

r487 is right! Why the woman is only a mere six years dead! It is far too soon!

by Anonymousreply 498April 2, 2019 6:18 AM

For r487:

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by Anonymousreply 499April 2, 2019 6:21 AM

Nope.

by Anonymousreply 500April 7, 2019 2:00 AM

It is a no for me too.

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by Anonymousreply 501April 22, 2019 3:33 AM

I wrote it on another thread before how I thought Claudia Lonow -- who played Diana, Karen's (Michele Lee) daughter on Knots Landing -- should've played Barbara.

by Anonymousreply 502April 22, 2019 12:55 PM

I've been watching One Day At A Time on Fetv at 1 or 2 am every night. She was ugly.

by Anonymousreply 503April 23, 2019 8:40 PM

I think she was ugly before and after the show too. Not ugly exactly but silly looking. I thought that when I saw her in Applause Applause on B'way too.

by Anonymousreply 504April 23, 2019 8:46 PM

She was kinda cute.

by Anonymousreply 505April 24, 2019 1:13 AM

R2 makes a good point. Her personality really overpowered her looks.

by Anonymousreply 506April 24, 2019 1:16 AM

If Debra Jo Rupp had no comic timing and thought she was a great beauty, she'd be Bonnie.

by Anonymousreply 507April 24, 2019 2:18 AM

I wonder why she opted for that bright red mushroom cut? A soft brown MTM style would've been more forgiving.

by Anonymousreply 508April 24, 2019 8:25 AM

There's an interview with writer Mort Lachman- he'd been fired by Bob Hope, and hired by Norman Lear to rework the One Day at a Time pilot. The first one they made (which someone posted here recently) was pretty terrible. Mort wrote a new pilot and it sold and was made head writer.

The show aired, and was a hit. A month or so later, Mort went into see Norman Lear. Mort, who'd been writing gags for Bob Hope since radio, said "I cannot. I WILL NOT work with that woman another second!" Norman Lear said "I can't imagine Bonnie could've done anything THAT bad." Mort replied "Earlier today she said to me "Please stop them (the studio audience) from laughing so much. It's completely ruining my timing." Lear thought for a second, and said "OK! You can be off One Day at a Time" and he hired him for All in the Family.

by Anonymousreply 509May 30, 2019 6:20 PM

[quote]r44 She was on the upside of average.

[italic]Upside of Average: The Bonnie Franklin Story[/italic]

Only on Lifetime.

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by Anonymousreply 510May 30, 2019 7:22 PM

Their first pic was at the Chateau Marmont.

Two actors in LA. Both successful enough to see each other as peers.

It's not really a headcatcher.

Has R done a Top Ten albums list as well? I read somewhere that He and Ellie were into trap music...

by Anonymousreply 511May 30, 2019 7:37 PM

Ellie co-starred in "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies" with Lily James and Suki Waterhouse. Lily's boyfriend is Matt Smith, who starred in Doctor Who with Jenna Coleman. Matt Smith's ex is Daisy Lowe, who was perceived to beard for Sam Smith at the very outset of his career. Madden's friend Jeremy Langmead is married to a man but was married to a woman, India Knight. India Knight has a child with former partner Andrew O'Hagan, who's another Madden friend... Plenty of opportunity for Madden to find fuck buddies, male and female, who he could trust.

by Anonymousreply 512May 30, 2019 7:47 PM

R69, the GQ photoshoot says otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 513May 30, 2019 7:49 PM

Brandon was with Stephen Sondheim?!

by Anonymousreply 514May 30, 2019 7:50 PM

Of course he wants it. He just doesn't want to look thirsty.

by Anonymousreply 515May 30, 2019 7:57 PM

He should do a comedy. But not a Richard Curtis.

by Anonymousreply 516May 30, 2019 7:58 PM

I don't know who's replying to who anymore!

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by Anonymousreply 517May 30, 2019 8:11 PM

This is why I hate using DL on my phone. Apologies for spamming the thread.

On topic: I haven't even seen One Day at a Time and DL has made me hate Bonnie Franklin. (Ditto Alice/Linda Lavin.)

by Anonymousreply 518May 30, 2019 8:32 PM

[quote]r518 I haven't even seen One Day at a Time and DL has made me hate Bonnie Franklin.

Well, then we have served our purpose here.

All is forgiven.

by Anonymousreply 519May 30, 2019 8:36 PM

Damn it! The laughter is ruining my timing dammit studio audience!

by Anonymousreply 520May 30, 2019 8:44 PM

I liked her bowl cut

by Anonymousreply 521May 30, 2019 8:46 PM

She was hideous.

by Anonymousreply 522May 30, 2019 8:48 PM

Why did she always jog to the front door on ODAAT? Was she full on retarded or at least on the spectrum?

by Anonymousreply 523May 30, 2019 9:03 PM

There was something about her smile which was unnerving. So FAKE!

by Anonymousreply 524May 30, 2019 9:06 PM

"Cute" is the best Bonnie could hope for, but she undermined even that with her bitchy personality.

by Anonymousreply 525May 30, 2019 9:13 PM

Apart from her crossed eyes, yellow teeth, freckles, and that terrifying rictus she called a smile, she was quite lovely.

by Anonymousreply 526May 30, 2019 9:37 PM

Bubbly.

by Anonymousreply 527May 30, 2019 10:36 PM

^^ like sulphuric acid.

by Anonymousreply 528May 30, 2019 11:20 PM

[quote][487] here. I'm not new at all to the site

Oh, yeah. You’re a DL veteran. We can tell by the unique way you reference prior posts. 🙄

Nothing wrong with being new, but don’t play us.

by Anonymousreply 529May 30, 2019 11:51 PM

Ann sexually harassed her gay male secretary and didn't get even a slap on the wrist by her gay male boss.

by Anonymousreply 530May 31, 2019 1:19 AM

Her orange cock-head 'do gave her a land of Puf'n'stuf vibe.

by Anonymousreply 531June 2, 2019 2:48 AM

My mother said “attractive” was making the best with what one had. I would say Bonnie Franklin was “attractive” for how she appeared on One Day at a Time, but I would not eat her cunt.

by Anonymousreply 532June 2, 2019 3:13 AM

She went to her grave knowing this.

by Anonymousreply 533June 2, 2019 4:30 AM

I wonder if she was in the running for Gidget. "Dammit Larue!!!"

by Anonymousreply 534June 2, 2019 6:17 AM

I always thought the ODAAT apartment had potential. Look at all that space back there. That was an entire room that nobody used. IIRC, Julie and Barbara shared a bedroom. Why? One of them could have moved into that large alcove.

BF's smile looked angry. I can't believe there were NINE seasons of that show.

Conclusion: BF was maybe F-ing Norman Lear.

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by Anonymousreply 535June 2, 2019 8:09 AM

I think the apartment had to be super ugly so it wouldn't overshadow Bonnie.

Also: the ODAAT apartment and the Good Times apartment were basically the same. It made sense that the Evans was stuck in their awful apartment until the final episode (they were very poor and black) but Ann supposedly was a big shot ad executive by Season 4 or so....why the fuck live in that shitty apartment?

by Anonymousreply 536June 2, 2019 9:07 AM

Because, Schneider.

by Anonymousreply 537June 2, 2019 11:51 AM

How did Ann with no higher education and or prior job experience become an ad exec by season 2? With her own office, and epileptic secretary, no less?

by Anonymousreply 538June 3, 2019 1:11 AM

The only way it makes sense is that Ann was spending all of her increased disposable income on coke instead of a bigger apartment. Her manic freaky behaviour is classic 70s cokehead. One Line at a Time, bitch.

by Anonymousreply 539June 3, 2019 1:19 AM

I didn't really watch the later seasons but didn't they break down a wall or something to add more room to the apartment? I mean, wasn't there a period of time when there were like 6 people living in there? Ann, Barbara, her husband, Glenn Scarpelli and maybe even Julie and her husband?

by Anonymousreply 540June 3, 2019 8:37 AM

Bonnie Franklin and Ron RIfkin's chemistry was off the charts!

by Anonymousreply 541June 4, 2019 2:06 AM

R541, I agree, I remember in one episode where Rifkin and Franklin come into the apartment and Rifkin grabs a glass of water from the kitchen and says, 'I need water, I'm so parched' and Bonnie replies, 'Really? I'm plenty wet...'

by Anonymousreply 542June 4, 2019 9:23 AM

They had one episode where Ann and Barbara talked about moving, and Ann was like no this apartment has been good to us, let's stay and fix it up.'

by Anonymousreply 543June 4, 2019 1:05 PM

Al Lewis said she tried out for the part of Marilyn Munster and they hired her to play Eddie. She was so insulted that they gave her a token part to appease her. "We were kind that way," he said.

by Anonymousreply 544June 4, 2019 1:30 PM

Why would they kill Nick off if he made Ann wet? I don't get it!

by Anonymousreply 545June 4, 2019 6:57 PM

yes !

by Anonymousreply 546June 4, 2019 10:48 PM

[quote]Why would they kill Nick off if he made Ann wet? I don't get it!

They had to protect the Davenport.

by Anonymousreply 547June 4, 2019 10:49 PM

She was a handsome woman.

by Anonymousreply 548June 7, 2019 3:01 AM

[quote]542 I remember in one episode where Rifkin and Franklin come into the apartment and Rifkin grabs a glass of water from the kitchen and says, 'I need water, I'm so parched' and Bonnie replies, 'Really? I'm plenty wet...'

The following gag where they rigged it so it looked like she squirted across the room to hit him in the face was taking it too far, though, IMHO.

by Anonymousreply 549June 7, 2019 3:11 AM

Ugly then, old and ugly now.

by Anonymousreply 550June 7, 2019 3:14 AM

She had her share of onscreen kisses.

by Anonymousreply 551June 8, 2019 8:37 PM
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