The Last Homosexual

Think how much happier their kids will be OP. No more self hatred or not conforming with everyone else. If kids seem a bit nonconforming or boys show signs of effeminacy it'll just be a straightforward medical referral and treatment to fix, like wearing braces. And think how happy all the straights will be now that all the boys only want other girls. Having gays around was always tremendously embarassing and inconvenient. As we're the last gay generation on earth, maybe it's for the better the earth will swallow us up. Someday a transgirl teen will hear about us in a history class and feel bad they didn't have the technology to cure being gay back in our dark ages, before flicking her perfect long hair back and catching her adoring boyfriend's eye. Ah, young love.

It's very creepy and awful and no one is talking about it

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When is your operation, R2? Or did you already cut it off?

Oops, meant R1. (Sorry R2.)

I been talking plenty about in, in any thread related to this subject.

Being an adult who'll never make a convincing woman I'll just have to deal with the burden of being gay R5. But thankfully future generations will never be homosexual as long as watchful parents, teachers and doctors can catch the condition around puberty. I imagine there will eventually be some kind of nationwide program to report signs of gender nonconformity and immediately refer these children to puberty blocker treatment to get the least distressing outcomes. It'll be a brave new world.

Well, I am, R2

Our Movement got co-opted by the assimilationists, so that opened the door to this sort of thing.

"When I was young, there was a couple of upsides to being gay, one was that you didn't have to get married, and the other was that you didn't have to go in the army! It did surprise me from the very beginning that what I consider to be the two most confining institutions in society, the military and marriage, would be so sought after by gay activists. Usually a fight for freedom is a fight for freedom. This struck me as a fight for slavery."

– Fran Lebowitz, 2012

[quote] It's very creepy and awful and no one is talking about it

Oh, we're talking about it. That is until our threads get shut down on here. No less than four of them either were closed or totally obliterated yesterday.

R9, assimilation was the price of social acceptance.

But we are not "socially accepted" if a sex change is seen as preferable to being gay.

Stop with this retarded conspiracy theory already. It's not going to happen. Not all people who grow up to be gay are feminine as children for one thing. And even AS someone who was a bit queeny as a 12 year old - I don't want to cut off my dick...and I never wanted to be a woman.

This conspiracy about the "trans agenda" keep coming up here over and over and over again - and you realize you're therefore assuming that all gay men were effeminate children.

[quote]even AS someone who was a bit queeny as a 12 year old - I don't want to cut off my dick...and I never wanted to be a woman

Sorry to burst your bubble but kids are being treated as early as 2 years old now. Do keep up.

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[quote] And even AS someone who was a bit queeny as a 12 year old - I don't want to cut off my dick...and I never wanted to be a woman.

Who said it was up to you? I'm fairly certain most of these kids don't want to be on puberty blockers or are even dreaming about changing their gender. But it's not what they want, it's what society wants, so they brainwash poor Mommy & Daddy (who maybe don't need to be pushed too far) into thinking their gay child is actually a budding trans, and before you know it, the pod has been placed under the bed, so to speak, and your gay child is now the opposite sex.

"It's not going to happen."

It IS happening R13. There are hundreds of news stories about parents deciding their effeminate son or tomboy daughter is really the opposite sex and having them treated.

I saw 3% of kids in the San Francisco school system describe themselves as trans. 3%.

[quote] Mimi and Joe Lemay of Massachusetts say their son Jacob was never happy as a girl, adding that he has called himself a boy since he was two

And I used to pretend I was a shark and "swim" across the carpet, biting my family's legs. They didn't start feeding me fish food.

How do parents and specialists make the distinction of who will grow up gay and a Trans, with a 2 year old or a 5 year old? They can't, which means that future gay boys and girls will be Trans.

This is what I've been thinking and fearing ever since this tranny uprising started. It fucking terrifies me that retarded parents are going along with this shit with KIDS, not just teens either but actual little children.

I wish some prominent LGB people and groups would bring this topic to attention because it's a serious problem. But, they're all too busy licking hormonal tranny dicks and snatches.

Notice that families with Trans kids rarely have a homosexual siblings. I've never seen a family that has a Trans kid and a gay kid under the same roof.

Just wait until they identify a gay gene and abortions will happen to gay fetus after gay fetus

It's not even happening in IRAN....ok... that country has enforced sex changes and Iranians LEAVE THE FUCKING COUNTRY rather than have sex changes.

[quote]Sorry to burst your bubble but kids are being treated as early as 2 years old now. Do keep up.

Link? Every gender non-comforming 2 year old in the country is having sex changes? Wow - I must be living under a rock. Is my insurance paying for this?

[quote]Who said it was up to you? I'm fairly certain most of these kids don't want to be on puberty blockers or are even dreaming about changing their gender. But it's not what they want, it's what society wants, so they brainwash poor Mommy & Daddy (who maybe don't need to be pushed too far) into thinking their gay child is actually a budding trans, and before you know it, the pod has been placed under the bed, so to speak, and your gay child is now the opposite sex.

Who is "they" - are you off your anti-paranoia meds? You sound like a truther or a birther or an anti-vaxxer. Please cite facts or all I see is drivel, frankly. And please let me know of the individuals FORCED to change their sex against their will.... I'd love to know.

[quote] Just wait until they identify a gay gene and abortions will happen to gay fetus after gay fetus

Who says str8 fetuses won't get aborted in retaliation in such a scenario?

But overall, I'm deeply concerned. There is a nefarious movement underfoot to pressure gay kids and teens to identify as anything but gay. Greedy doctors are a part of it, and religious fundies are at the heart of it. Why do you think the Iranian government allows sex changes but makes homosexuality a capital crime? And what does it say about Pat Robertson, who built a career on hiding behind the Bible to justify hating our guts, when he has much less of a problem with that self-loathing self-mutilator Bruce Jenner putting on a dress, getting fake boobs and making himself look like Anita Bryant while insisting we call him "Caitlyn." Nope. What we should call him a deeply confused gay man who hates himself. People like that should not be celebrated; they need help. Dress how you want but don't piss on our legs, tell us it's raining and force us to bring out our umbrellas.

R23 you're being obtuse. You don't even know anything about Trans since the majority of Trans do not get operated on to remove their genitals. The majority of them keep their junk. Got that?

Kids are being 'diagnosed' as early as 2 or 5, as the link shows. Which means they'll receive puberty blockers before their teenage years.

Ok, please cite your sources R25.

If I am obtuse and ignorant, then I will gladly concede and agree with you once I see the data (from an objective source who studies this issue).

I meant i am r26...ugh

There are several articles already linked in this thread, r27. No one owes you an explanation -- despite what your mother told you.

[quote]It's not even happening in IRAN....ok... that country has enforced sex changes and Iranians LEAVE THE FUCKING COUNTRY rather than have sex changes.

Rubbish! Most don't.

From the link, the horrible reality for gay men in Iran:

It's an astonishing tale about how gay men who are not transgender are compelled to have what would normally be gender-affirmative surgery if they were indeed trans. For many if not all of these men, it's a matter of living as someone they are not for the rest of their lives following surgery — or facing execution.

Public executions of gay men in Iran is a frequent occurrence. In fact, the noosed bodies of young men are sometimes put on trucks and paraded through cities, towns and villages for all to see.

R29, it doesn't matter how many links we show or how objective they are, that poster will never be convinced.

Anyway,

Transgender kids: ‘Exploding’ number of children, parents seek clinical help

Two years before Caitlyn Jenner showed up this week on the cover of Vanity Fair, Oliver Bishop was in crisis.

The Sonora teen’s grades had dropped, and he’d become suicidal as he sensed that puberty was beginning to trap him in a female body that seemed alien to the boy he had always been inside.

“You know you’re a guy,” he said, “but everybody doesn’t see it that way.”

Now, as the nation sees a growing acceptance of transgender people such as the former Olympian Bruce Jenner, Bay Area therapists and physicians are seeing a surge in the number of families seeking advice — and sometimes medical intervention — to help kids whose perceived genders and bodies don’t seem to match.

“We have lifted the lid culturally,” said developmental psychologist Diane Ehrensaft, whose Oakland practice has seen a fourfold increase in the number of gender-questioning kids in recent years. “These kids have always existed, but they kept it underground.”

Her colleague, Steve Rosenthal, started the UCSF Child and Adolescent Gender Center three years ago and now serves 200 families, including Bishop’s, and has opened a satellite branch in San Mateo. The gender center took on 13 new families in May, the clinic’s busiest month yet.

[quote]it doesn't matter how many links we show or how objective they are, that poster will never be convinced.

I will absolutely be convinced if you provide research, preferably in peer reviewed journals.

Articles about single cases on random websites and blogs are not empirical studies. ..they aren't even at the level of news reports.

I saw an in depth piece about someone giving up his whole life in Iran because he wouldn't get a sex change on Vice. On the web, it just talks about the post-ops... but on the actual HBO show, you can find it.

I don't really care about this topic - I'll apologize for being wrong in 50 years if there aren't any gay peopel left...which I doubt. Trannies are full of mental problems and there is no way to identify all kids who are going to grow up gay...it's just not possible.

[quote]I don't really care about this topic

You don't say...now move along.

R32 likes sucking tranny dicks and wants there to be more of them.

Gender "counselling" and "medical intervention" sounds like a variation on the "cure homosexuality" therapies.

It is, R35

A study no one is reading :

There is no clinically reliable way to differentiate between a child’s future sexuality and her “gender identity.” Most children with gender “variance” in childhood will develop into homosexual, not transsexual, adults. ----- It is currently not possible to differentiate between preadolescent children in whom GID (Gender Identity Disorder) will persist and those in whom it will not. To date, no long-term follow-up data have demonstrated that any modality of treatment has a statistically significant effect on later gender identity.

The child "transgender" insanity will continue on unabated until the older, wiser-about-life young adults begin suing the medical and "counselling" communities and their parents for coercion, discrimination and negligence.

Oh good, another "evils of the trannies" thread. We haven't had enough of those lately.

R38 is puffing on the expensive stuff

always have to go to extremes don;t you op?

[quote]Oh good, another "evils of the trannies" thread. We haven't had enough of those lately.

When they stop telling lies about gay men and lesbians, we will stop telling the truth about them.

Some people just feel better, sticking their head in the mud & ignoring the reality of what is going on around them.

I'm working on it

I blame Hollywood Jews for a lot of this -- they think cosmetic surgery and changing names is the answer to everything

I fear r38 may be right. We won't see the end of this for perhaps another 10 or 20 years, when the children who were brainwashed by their parents and health professionals sue them and the whole house of cards comes tumbling down. Unfortunately, it will mean a lot of ruined lives. It's heartbreaking.

And that LGB orgs like HRC, GLAAD and Lambda Legal are going along with, let alone the media, is infuriating.

[quote] And that LGB orgs like HRC, GLAAD and Lambda Legal are going along with, let alone the media, is infuriating.

These organizations have been corrupt for several years, and very rarely put the needs of the community before the needs of paying their staff six figure yearly salaries. Perhaps not Lambda Legal so much, but HRC and GLAAD are a fucking joke. Unfortunately, no one's laughing.

Hardly anyone identifies as trans. Just because something gets a lot of media attention doesn't mean it is common

R48 You don't understand the concept of something happening now which will change the near future. We're not worried about adults of today believing they're Trans but of children of today and tomorrow being treated for being Trans just for being different. It's something down the road.

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Did you read the article at R15?

Mimi and Joe began to notice that Jacob was having difficulties when he was a toddler. Then named Mia, he would insist on changing his clothes 10 to 12 times a day, in an attempt to find something he felt comfortable in, before his parents bought him a blue 'doggy sweater' that he wore for six months straight - often over girlier dresses and tutus. 'She would take on "boy" personas, and just always want to play with boy things,' said Joe.

Can you blame the kid for not wanting to wear dresses and TUTUS? Who puts their kid in a tutu on a regular basis? The parents doing this transgender crap to their kids are straight conformist conservative idiots who have never had a gender-critical or social critical thought in their lives. And what is playing with "boy things"? Cars? Action toys? Things that might be kind of fun to a kid? For that and not wanting to wear a tutu they are going to declare the kid transgender - mess up her mind, and are going to pump full of hormones/surgery? Why on earth are people not screaming about this?

I guess the straight world (and the sold-out, stupid "gay" organizations) are indifferent.

Another article that makes it clear that it is conservative conformist parents are doing this to their kids, and doing it to avoid homosexuality

Note: trans approved while homosexuality is not. Also note: reporter does not challenge obvious ignorance and homophobia

"Your son was born a girl. At what point in his life did he demonstrate that he wasn't comfortable being a girl?

Since three [years old]. He started showing me that he did not want to wear skirts, period. I had to give away a lot of beautiful dresses we had bought, with the tag on. One time, we were at Toys "R" Us, and I was trying to buy him dolls, so I picked one doll, and he put it away. And then he wandered around, and he ended up in the cars and trucks section, and he picked up a truck he liked.

You're a Christian. Your son is a Christian. Did you face some prejudice from the church [because of his choice to identify as a boy]?

You'll be surprised if I told you...they accept us as human beings. They still disapprove of homosexuality, but they have a full understanding of my son's situation, and they try their best to accept us.

One of my Christian friends even called me, saying, "I heard the news! I'm calling you to let you know you have to support your child.

R23, look at the article linked from r15. It's an example of a girl whose been living as a boy since age two. Because her straight parents would rather have a fake son than a lesbian daughter. That's homophobic and mosogynist.

The last gays are in their 20s right now. People in their teens and younger will be queer or trans instead.

Trans is very common in schools currently. It's shocking how many children now self identify as trans, and I'm in Florida.

R55 This isn't happening organically. Someone is pushing this.

R1 = OP

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