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Baroness Jamie Lee Curtis' kids won't be able to inherit the noble title from their mother

Wikipedia says: [quote] Because Guest's children are adopted, they cannot inherit the family barony under the terms of the letters patent that created it, though a 2004 Royal Warrant addressing the style of a peer's adopted children states that they can use courtesy titles. The current heir presumptive to the barony is Guest's younger brother, the actor The Hon. Nicholas Haden-Guest.

Isn't this law a bit degrading and unfair? I mean, it's not Baroness Jamie and Baron Christoper's fault that they couldn't have biological kids of their own.

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by Anonymousreply 19June 8, 2018 8:32 PM

You mean Jamie's husband is a baron? What country does their title come from? Germany?

by Anonymousreply 1September 5, 2015 10:08 PM

The lowest rank of British aristocracy is the holder of a barony. which brings with it the title of Lord (they're not actually called Barons in normal circumstances). Originally the English peerage was just earls, the senior peers, and then barons or lords (the others); then the other titles were gradually added - dukes and marquises over earls and viscounts between earls and barons..

by Anonymousreply 2September 5, 2015 10:21 PM

How Jamie have sizemeat?

by Anonymousreply 3September 5, 2015 10:24 PM

Christina, remember what I said about adopted children.

by Anonymousreply 4September 5, 2015 11:14 PM

It's Tony Curtis' fault for assigning Jamie Lee female at birth.

by Anonymousreply 5September 5, 2015 11:17 PM

[quote]Isn't this law a bit degrading and unfair?

You have it backwards. It would be unfair to the legitimate heir through blood, the younger brother, to be cheated out of his birthright in favor of a descendant who was simply adopted in. Adopted children aren't born within the bloodline. Preserving the bloodline is the whole point of a system of primogeniture.

by Anonymousreply 6September 5, 2015 11:30 PM

Does the title come with any money, lands, or castles? Can Christopher Guest leave any inherited wealth to his adopted kids, and leave some cousin with a title but not the money?

Certainly Guest and Curtis have earned their own money, their kids may not be titled but they won't be poor.

by Anonymousreply 7September 5, 2015 11:36 PM

They'll give a baroness title to anyone these days, dahlings! True princesses are becoming a rare species.

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by Anonymousreply 8September 5, 2015 11:50 PM

R7, The Right Honourable Lord Haden-Guest only holds a hereditary British peerage. There is no castle or estate associated with the title, apart from what he has brought in in his own.

by Anonymousreply 9September 6, 2015 12:02 AM

[quote]a hereditary British peerage.

Didn't they abolish those?

by Anonymousreply 10September 6, 2015 12:59 AM

They got rid of Jamie's peerage at birth.

by Anonymousreply 11September 6, 2015 1:01 AM

Nicholas Haden-Guest is HOT.

by Anonymousreply 12September 6, 2015 1:10 AM

[quote] Nicholas Haden-Guest is HOT.

Christopher is not. How JLC went from Adam Ant to THAT I'll never know.

by Anonymousreply 13September 6, 2015 4:47 AM

The title will go to his younger brother Nicholas if Chris dies without a natural born heir. That said, Nicholas himself only has daughters so it would appear that the title will leave the immediate family if Nicholas does not produce a son.

by Anonymousreply 14August 8, 2016 10:00 PM

I thought Jamie Lee still had her penis. Everyone in Hollywood talks about it.

by Anonymousreply 15August 8, 2016 11:11 PM

You expect aristocracy to be fair?

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

by Anonymousreply 16June 8, 2018 7:54 PM

Exactly, r16.

You're talking about a hereditary peerage -- you know, the thing where an accident of birth makes you the oldest surviving son of an oldest surviving son going back, oh, seventeen generations, and you're worrying about fairness, OP?

by Anonymousreply 17June 8, 2018 8:04 PM

It is actually an interesting and complicated dilemma. Of course I believe that adopted children should be on even terms with birth children.

But suppose a king or queen (or Duke or Earl or whatever) with no living bio child, knowing a rival has a claim to the throne or title, decides to adopt a child in order to shut out the next in line? Controversy ensues.

If the system is built on bloodlines and birthright, adoption does complicate things.

by Anonymousreply 18June 8, 2018 8:29 PM

Maybe they can tweet Trump? This sounds like the sort of injustice he cares about.

by Anonymousreply 19June 8, 2018 8:32 PM
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