The Myth of the Fag Hag and Dirty Secrets of the Gay Male Subculture

Is this yet another "all gay men are really bisexual/straight" thread?

No, it's a "misogyny in the gay community" thread.

This crappy article keeps being posted here. It's an old homophobic article. Give it a rest.

WOMEN ARE RAPED AND MURDERED EVERY SINGLE SECOND OF EVERY DAY IN AMERICA! AIR CONDITIONERS ARE SEXIST! VIDEO GAMES ARE SEXIST! GIVE ME FREE MONEY NOW, SHITLORD! I HAVE UNPAID EMOTIONAL LABOR THAT I MUST BE COMPENSATED FOR!

Women should come here and post their homophobic bullshit on a gay men's website. Why would that be considered inappropriate by gay men? I just can't figure it out.

Gay. Male. Privilege? BBBBBWWWWWWAAAAAAA HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH

R6 makes a fair point.

I don't even begin to understand the article enough to resent it - word salad to me.

[quote] I don't even begin to understand the article enough to resent it - word salad to me.

How perfectly passive aggressive, r8. For some reason, I imagine you said that in vocal fry to yourself as you typed.

The HuffPo had a response, "The Myth of 'Gay Male Privilege'".

[quote] It may be true that straight women are unwelcome in gay bars or clubs (although, this has not been the case in my experience.) However, I remain unconvinced that the exclusion of straight people from gay spaces would rightly be called an example of "gay male sexism," or "gay male privilege." (...) Gay male spaces don't exist for the purpose of excluding straight women, or to make them feel "left out." The point of gay clubs is for gay people to come together and be around other gay people; because there is limited space, each straight woman there means one less gay person there. Moreover, he fails to elucidate why, exactly, so many straight women want to go to gay clubs -- this ties in to the author's general mischaracterization of the gay male-straight female relationship.

[quote] (...) The author himself unwittingly admits that the reason that straight women like gay clubs is that they objectify gay men (...)

[quote] The entire piece has a subtle flavor of the sort of homophobia once preached by some, supposedly radical, feminists: That gay men are gay because we hate women. This growing suspicion of mine was borne out when he actually (approvingly) quoted an article titled, "Are All Gay Men Secret Misogynists?" in the context of returning, yet again, to his complaint about how poor, straight omen are marginalized in gay spaces.

A more humorous response:

[quote]First I’ll start by parroting conservative articles about gay people, that there is a dirty secret in gay populations. You see, we hate women, we’re satanists, we eat da poo poo. We’re murderers. I know this because we once went to a party and met John Wayne Gacy, he was a murderer, aren’t gay people just crazy murderers?

[quote]As gay people we are beginning to enjoy some rights, we can potentially enjoy better salaries than women. When are these potentials kicking in? When are these rights actually beginning? Who knows, but when it happens we gays will be real jerks.

[quote]I dated an awful guy who made rape jokes. Gays are bad. Check your privilege.

[quote]Gay tv shows are bad role models, have you ever seen Will & Grace? Will and Jack always tell Grace she’s fat and that Karen is a drunk. Never mind that the show is a farce and the comedy stems from quips thrown on both sides. That Grace and Karen call Will and Jack “fags” doesn’t really fit into this essays theme so we’ll just leave it out.

[quote]Gay men are perfectly awful to women because we buy their albums and do free marketing for them, imagine that disrespect. Gay men even hired Jessica Lange to star in American Horror Story: Coven. They make her chew the scenery. They force aging female stars into roles as if they were STILL USEFUL. Gays should let the aging female stars be and fade away from existence as heterosexual culture would have it. Obviously, not hiring and writing for Jessica Lange would be the utmost of respect.

[quote]Listen, I don’t hate gays, I hate gay culture. I learned that from my grandma. She was robbed by a black man once and came home straight up telling us that black man made her racist, that she had a major problem with black culture. All that hip-hop, all that nonsense. Well I’m here to tell you the same about gay people, I mean culture.

Dial it back a bit R6

This is so stupid. Bitchy queen humor needs to be appreciated and "fag", " bitch", and "cunt" are going to get thrown around, and not every gay man has hags to worry about offending.

I never refer to female friends with the B word or the C word, and I am never misogynistic. This article speaks for the author of the article, perhaps.

R13, I have none

"But you don't act gay."

"It's a shame you're not straight."

"What a waste."

Women sexually harass cute gays all the time - online, in person, etc. And they very often drop those lines at R16 upon discovering a cute guy is gay. It's like they feel entitled to be fucked by whoever they please, and if they don't get their way, the guys should be made to feel guilty about it.

I had to dump a girl friend after she repeatedly said things like "well, at least you don't act gay", or the opposite, yet equally offensive (referring to my brightly colored T shirt and running shoes) "if I didn't already know you were gay, I would now". I mean I never said " you are far to old to be wearing a dress that short". though honestly, I thought it so loud, she may have heard it.

Poor thing dropped an uncouth friend and tried to blame it on sexism. I'm not buying it. Defending an abortion clinic is checking your privilege. Policing the language of your buddies is not. He sounds like he is STILL a fucking sexist. You can always tell if a man is sexist because he treats his mother like furniture.

Fag Hags are not a myth. They are simply much more rare than the media imply them to be.

Yeah, gay men sometimes make tacky jokes about their female friends, but they’re usually the best friends these girls have. How many crazy girls out there have failed relationships and female friends who ghost them out yet still have a close gay male friend whose stuck with them through the years? It’s more common than you think.

Why don’t you write a think piece on toxic female friends and how they try to sabotage each other? But I get it. Gay men are evil and we’re going to pretend that women have no flaws.

[quote] but they’re usually the best friends these girls have

As they say, "With friends like those, ..." You know the rest.