“I don’t believe you change hearts. You change laws, you change allocation of resources, you change the way systems operate.”
Black Lives Matter Releases Video Of Closed-Door Meeting With Hillary Clinton
by Anonymous | reply 97 | February 28, 2022 3:03 PM |
I sometimes question my support of Hillary. Then she says things I don't hear other people saying, in this case needing to change laws, etc and the need for BLM to come up with policy changes they want to see, and the pulls me back in.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | August 18, 2015 4:43 PM |
She didn't patronize like Bermie.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | August 18, 2015 4:52 PM |
Hillary was exactly right that BLM needs to take cues from the gay rights movement on how to affect real change.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | August 18, 2015 4:58 PM |
Once again she shows why she should be President.
Any republican candidate would say something stupid like, "when the police say jump, you jump!"
by Anonymous | reply 4 | August 18, 2015 5:02 PM |
Bernie didn't patronize them, he was ambushed. It was not a "meeting." This pretty much proves she paid them to do it.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | August 18, 2015 5:13 PM |
R5 another Bernieloony
by Anonymous | reply 6 | August 18, 2015 5:14 PM |
Hillary is a LOOOSER.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | August 18, 2015 5:42 PM |
Or you can just use Executive Orders and bypass our Constitutional system, altogether! Liberals and Democrats are sounding more authoritarian and Fascist, by the day.
What "resources"? The taxpayer money re-building Baltimore after their Black mayor stated that she wanted to give looters and vandals "space to destroy"? No, Hillary. New government programs don't matter if hate begins at home. New laws don't matter to people who strong-arm rob corner stores for cigar sweets, even if it's illegal. New regulations didn't stop Eric Garner in a Blue State, from illegally selling cigarettes.
Changing hearts and minds matters. You can not legislate morality nor personal values.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | August 18, 2015 5:43 PM |
R5 has it right. They meet with Hillary but ambush Bernie. Hillary's dirty money paid them to disrupt her opponents, no doubt about it.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | August 18, 2015 5:45 PM |
R9 It's because they're illegitimate and unethical.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | August 18, 2015 5:47 PM |
Yep. It's confirmed. Hillary was behind the ambushing of Bernie Sanders. Had BLM met with Sanders the same way they are with Hillary, things would be a lot different.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | August 18, 2015 5:48 PM |
The Bernieloonies will be soooo disappointed on the day President Hillary takes the oath of office.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | August 18, 2015 5:54 PM |
R12 How exciting! I've never seen someone take the oath of office from the inside of a jail cell, before!
by Anonymous | reply 13 | August 18, 2015 5:57 PM |
Yes, R12, seeing yet another crooked plutocrat seize the White House on behalf of powerful and privileged special interests is disappointing indeed.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | August 18, 2015 5:59 PM |
Oh please, R13. If Hillary were going to jail, it would have happened a long time ago.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | August 18, 2015 6:00 PM |
50 % of homicides are committed by blacks, who make up 13% of the population. 90 % of the,victims are black. For various reasons (legacy of slavery, poverty, social inequality) blacks resort to homicide at a rate 8 times higher than whites. Poverty alone doesn't explain this : chinatown in Manhatten has the highest rates of poverty in NYC, yet the homicide rate is lower than that of whites. Impoverished Chinese immigrants do not resort to homicide despite their circumstances.
As I have stated before, blacks both utilize homicide and accept homicide as a course of action at a rate 8 times that of whites. To think that any politician can ennact "laws" to reduce black on black violence is not realistic. Acceptance of violence and using violence to solve i interpersonal and other issues is engrained in black culture, as demonstrated by DOJ/FBI crime statistics: 50 % of homicides in the US are committed by blacks, who make up 13 % of the population.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | August 18, 2015 6:03 PM |
Bill and Hillary made $28 million last year. That is $53.27 a minute, every minute of every hour, 24/7, every day of the year. That is about what a minimum wage employee makes in one day. The Clintons make that much every minute around the clock. And we defend that by saying "hard work" is the difference between scrub poverty for honest toil and obscene wealth for amoral profiteers.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | August 18, 2015 6:06 PM |
R15 I'm doubting it, myself.
Nixon was almost impeached before he resigned, over an 18 1/2 minute gap. General Petraeus was destroyed over his discussing classified information with a reporter who was his lover.
Hillary violates the very rule she lectured her staff on, performs State work from a private server, refuses to turn over these records, "loses" them, is forced by subpoena to turn them over, turns over some with possibly the most incriminating two months worth missing, is revealed to have exposed at least two definite emails full of "Top Secret" information and 300 emails with possible classified information and people are still talking about her as a viable Presidential candidate.
Above The law, indeed.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | August 18, 2015 6:08 PM |
So the best you can do is shriek "she's rich!" as though that fact alone, in isolation, makes her evil?
Sigh. Freepers gotta freep.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | August 18, 2015 6:12 PM |
R19 No, but it becomes a problem when the very foundation of your ideology is that rich people are causing all the problems in society and rich people are the ones that need to be targeted, to fix them.
There's a reason why Conservatives who claimed all of The US' problems were the result of broken families and a loss of respect for marriage, were dropped when their marital affairs were uncovered. Americans will put up with imperfect candidates but we don't like liars and bossy hypocrites.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | August 18, 2015 6:18 PM |
She does not and has never had that philosophy R20. If she did, we would much prefer her to Saunders. Because the rich are the problem: arrogant and entitled, making bad decisions about the economy every which way you turn.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | August 18, 2015 6:21 PM |
"Closed door meeting"
by Anonymous | reply 22 | August 18, 2015 6:39 PM |
Bullshit, R22.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | August 18, 2015 6:50 PM |
R23 Has she ever given us reason to believe otherwise?
by Anonymous | reply 24 | August 18, 2015 6:54 PM |
No way will BLM change hearts because they're all into alienation tactics and insults.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | August 18, 2015 7:27 PM |
[quote] No, but it becomes a problem when the very foundation of your ideology is that rich people are causing all the problems in society and rich people are the ones that need to be targeted, to fix them.
This is how it's obvious you're a Freeper. No Democrat or liberal would accuse Hillary of being too hard on the rich.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | August 18, 2015 7:35 PM |
Bernie needs to get his crop of batshit supporters in line. They're throwing around "nigger" and "ape" like no tomorrow in reaction to BLM. This is why Bernie doesn't have support of the party he's not even a member of it.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | August 18, 2015 7:42 PM |
I don't think his analysis is fair like Hillary does.
"America's first drug was free black labor"? What the hell does that mean?
Mass incarceration is the same as the plantation system? Oh, really? Maybe the high rate of crime in the black population is the cause of mass incarceration. I certainly hope the four black guys who shoved guns in my face are massly incarcerated.
The Black Live Matter movement is meaningless until blacks believe this is true and live accordingly. They also need to keep it real and cut the hyperbole, idiotic connections and perpetual victim crap.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | August 18, 2015 8:11 PM |
R26 Brainiac, the whole point I was making is that there might possibly, just a teensy bit, be inconsistencies in the ideology she claims to champion and her own lifestyle and the allowances she'll make for wealthy people she's friends with (like Jeffrey Epstein).
by Anonymous | reply 29 | August 18, 2015 8:22 PM |
[quote]Brainiac, the whole point I was making is that there might possibly, just a teensy bit, be inconsistencies in the ideology she claims to champion and her own lifestyle and the allowances she'll make for wealthy people she's friends with (like Jeffrey Epstein).
LOL
You fucking liar:
[quote]No, but it becomes a problem when the very foundation of your ideology is that rich people are causing all the problems in society and rich people are the ones that need to be targeted, to fix them.
Not a word in there about her rich friends and whatever allowances she makes for them. You're full of shit, Freeper.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | August 18, 2015 8:35 PM |
R30 I was responding to this:
"So the best you can do is shriek 'she's rich!' as though that fact alone, in isolation, makes her evil?"
Hillary has said this:
"Prosperity can’t be just for CEOs and hedge-fund managers,” Clinton said in an address on Roosevelt Island, with Wall Street visible over her shoulder. “Democracy can’t be just for billionaires and corporations. Prosperity and democracy are part of your basic bargain, too. You brought our country back. Now it’s time — your time — to secure the gains and move ahead.”
Since Hillary has based her campaign on targeting and scrutinizing the actions of rich people, why shouldn't she be held to the same standards? You can't "Freeper!" your way out of every, single argument, dear.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | August 18, 2015 8:43 PM |
[quote]"Closed door meeting"
Ha! How about the whole story? You know why they didn't do a "Bernie-style" ambush? Because they didn't fucking get there on time to get into the room before the MAXIMUM capacity was reached! Wow, it looks like the demon Hillary illegally stuffed a room with supporters, huh? Must have been! Only BERNIE can get a crowd! If the BLM protestors had BEEN ON TIME, maybe they would have gotten in! Protesting is like a real job, you got to get there on time!
Once Hillary was told that The CPT BLM people had finally arrived, she sent word that she would happily meet them personally, and then she did. She offered them a sincere one-on-one cordiality they certainly weren't planning on offering her. Their whole schtick is to embarrass their natural allies! Insanity! They are rank amateurs.
The increasingly dopey and myopic Melissa Harris Perry had them on Rachel's show last night, and treated them like the fucking Pope. It was hard to watch her avoid the most obvious question on the planet which is "Why are you blaming Hillary for laws passed in the 1990s by a Republican run Congress when her husband was President? You are aware that the First Lady is not an elected position, nor a policy position, right?"
No, that might have made sense. Instead she kissed their asses and tried to keep them from sounding as embarrassingly naive and simple as they are. It was difficult to stomach.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | August 18, 2015 8:51 PM |
" Hillary violates the very rule she lectured her staff on, performs State work from a private server, refuses to turn over these records, "loses" them, is forced by subpoena to turn them over, turns over some with possibly the most incriminating two months worth missing, is revealed to have exposed at least two definite emails full of "Top Secret" information and 300 emails with possible classified information and people are still talking about her as a viable Presidential candidate."
and yet never ever any evidence. Benghazi has been investigated a great many times and yet it goes on.
This is the trap set by the Repugs - constantly raise some false controversy around the Clintons, never get it to court because it's all just wild speculation and telling the sheep what they want to hear, then claim she is unelectable because there's always some scandal around her. LOL
by Anonymous | reply 33 | August 18, 2015 9:17 PM |
R33 "False controversy"? The FBI is investigating her. Why do you assume I'm a Republican? I just question authority and dogma. I don't think any candidate should be seen as inevitable. I think Trump should get the full treatment and so should she and Bernie and anyone else who runs for office.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | August 18, 2015 9:23 PM |
I have to hand it to her, she appears very pragmatic here. So calculated. Im sure her team worked out a deal with these young people to release this footage, and she has instantly won over many voters who support their movement, without giving them anything in return.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | August 18, 2015 9:32 PM |
The BLM people released the video. I'm certain they did not confer with, nor ask Hillary Clinton anything.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | August 18, 2015 9:56 PM |
No matter r36, she still used them to her advantage knowing very well this would be released.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | August 18, 2015 10:06 PM |
Does anyone think all of this will backfire and piss off more Republickcunts to show up and vote for spite?
by Anonymous | reply 38 | August 18, 2015 10:07 PM |
President Hillary Clinton's first official act after she takes office: Have Bernie Sanders executed.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | August 18, 2015 10:13 PM |
Before her next public appearence Hillary should have her mouth washed out with strong soap.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | August 18, 2015 10:49 PM |
[quote]she still used them to her advantage
How? She spoke to them and answered their questions. They released the video. How, outside the fevered mind of the Anti-Clintonites, does that equal her "using" them to her "advantage?"
Seriously. I want details, because you don't make a lick of sense.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | August 18, 2015 10:54 PM |
[quote]Im sure her team worked out a deal with these young people
And again I ask: how? How are you sure of such a thing? Give me one iota of evidence to support what you're saying.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | August 18, 2015 10:55 PM |
It's the pro clintonian crowd claiming she used them to look like a competent compassionate effective leader (juxtaposed to bern slinking off stage).
Of course, these are the same people claiming she was the GOAT leading the state department, that she could have been a supermodel, and that she fills out a pantsuit as well as Kat Hepburn.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | August 18, 2015 10:58 PM |
R16, that's not true! White people commit homicide just as often as black people do!
It's just that the racist police target poor black people and the white people get away with it!
It's not fair that white people can get away with murder and not black people!
by Anonymous | reply 44 | August 18, 2015 11:15 PM |
Proven once again that this bitch is fierce
by Anonymous | reply 45 | August 18, 2015 11:39 PM |
Very impressed with her response. Makes me like her more. This is the side of Hillary the world needs to see more (take note Hillary campaign managers).
by Anonymous | reply 46 | August 18, 2015 11:49 PM |
R46 What laws did she suggest should be introduced or changed to accommodate BLM?
by Anonymous | reply 47 | August 18, 2015 11:53 PM |
Actually tobacco was America's first drug.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | August 18, 2015 11:54 PM |
They're used to the thug and bullying tactics working, but those ways are better observed and dealt with, and less effective now. BLM are getting one big yawn by most of the country because as another posted stated, they are coming off as rude, obnoxious, disruptive and have no suggestions. It reminds me of the Walk On Wall Street protestors, who got a whole lot of nothing accomplished.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | August 19, 2015 12:03 AM |
R44 Tell that to Nicole Brown Simpson
by Anonymous | reply 50 | August 19, 2015 12:05 AM |
Is anyone else bothered by them having that long ass meeting standing up?
by Anonymous | reply 51 | August 19, 2015 12:19 AM |
Those chunky gals are certainly risking micro fractures in their heels if they stand for more than 5 minutes
by Anonymous | reply 52 | August 19, 2015 12:30 AM |
Why yes we do, r15, which is why she has such high unfavorables even in her own party.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | August 19, 2015 12:33 AM |
I saw that video last night and couldn't imagine anyone handling it better than she did. Bernie's campaign did hire a BLM activist. One of his staff posted a memo apologizing for not working with BLM sooner and Bernie went on Meet the Press and said that he didn't needed to apologize to BLM and that the staff did not speak for him. Regardless, what's the harm in the apology? It's your staff. It just didn't look good.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | August 19, 2015 12:35 AM |
r53 you are such a damn. HRC remains very popular amongst the base of the Dem Party. Her unfavorable are amongst so-called independents and GOP. "Independants" nowadays are a bunch of Teabags and Socialist sand dissidents who would not have voted for her anyways.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | August 19, 2015 12:37 AM |
This video put me back on Team Hillary.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | August 19, 2015 1:04 AM |
Same here, r56.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | August 19, 2015 2:16 PM |
None of the GOP candidates would meet with the BLM functionaries because it would be politically disastrous with their own base voters. Rand Paul maybe would be the exception, but he would spin that into talking about incarceration rates and drug-use offenses.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | August 19, 2015 3:12 PM |
Those two lesbian BLM protesters that forced Bernie Sanders to retreat better not try such with a few others. Forget Donald Trump's bodyguards toting them away. Imagine if it was Chris Christie they encountered in such a forum? Any two heifers would now be institutionalized, each sitting in their respective corner mumbling aimlessly.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | August 19, 2015 3:20 PM |
r51, they were standing because the BLM were LATE for their SCHEDULED meeting!!!!!! LATE!!!!! Hills had to leave for another event but she decided that they should hold in a hallway downstairs so she'd be closer to the cars waiting for her. I don't know where BLM were but when you have a meeting with someone as well know as HRC you make sure you're on time. They weren't just a little late but REALLY LATE. THAT'S FUCKING BULLSHIT!
All of this was reported on MSNBC and CNN last night.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | August 19, 2015 4:34 PM |
R56 and R57 I guess there's nothing like politicians who say one thing to your face, then say something completely different to a specific group, behind closed doors. How exciting!
I think she's dishonest. I don't trust her.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | August 19, 2015 4:44 PM |
[quote]I guess there's nothing like politicians who say one thing to your face, then say something completely different to a specific group, behind closed doors.
This describes literally every successful politician ever.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | August 19, 2015 9:56 PM |
It was stupid of them to let a guy talk. It should have been a woman.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | August 19, 2015 11:45 PM |
I just love it when the freepers overrun a discussion pretending to be Bernie Sanders supporters!
BlackLivesMatter are just a few exhibitionists with no idea of actually doing anything - just getting their faces in the news and interviews on MSNBC. I wonder why they aren't bitching at Obama? I can't actually think of anything he's done for black people (and no, I'm not Donald Trump - but he has a point).
This whole cops murdering blacks series of incidents is appalling. However, the cops are obviously scared shitless of anybody they stop because of the proliferation of weapons in the US. So they're scared, they're dumb to begin with and some of the blacks they have shot were either 1) running away or 2) giving them lip.
They threw a white bitch off a plane because she was giving lip to the flight attendants about her dog. She got arrested. Sorry, but giving lip to a dumb police officer is not the way to come out of the encounter intact.
As for Black Lives Matter women interrupting Bernie Sanders, Larry Wilmore said "Black Lives Matter" but "Black Manners Matter" too.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | August 20, 2015 12:57 AM |
Hehehehe.
Told ya I was hardcore.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | August 20, 2015 1:05 AM |
Black lives matter is a disgrace. Until they address black on black crime, their movement is a non-starter.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | August 20, 2015 1:43 AM |
Note to shut-in @ R66 - You're wrong, their movement has already started and it's getting traction.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | August 20, 2015 2:13 AM |
[quote] Sorry, but giving lip to a dumb police officer is not the way to come out of the encounter intact.
Probably not but the onus is on the trained, professional law enforcement officer to keep his fucking cool when some smart-mouth ass is giving him lip. You can't just shoot them because they piss you off.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | August 20, 2015 2:16 AM |
Oh my sides! You people are too much. Hillary didn't break any laws about servers and such because no such laws existed at the time. That is the cold hard fact. And you think email is going to stop Hillary from being the next President of the United States? There have been 6 congressional inquiries into Hillary's Emails and nada came up. There have been 8 (EIGHT!!) Congressional inquiries into Benghazi as of November , 2014. It is all bullshit. No laws were broken, no indictments given, just Republicans wasting time and money.
President Hillary Clinton----has a nice ring to it, don't you agree?
by Anonymous | reply 69 | August 20, 2015 2:30 AM |
R69 She was never allowed to pass along "Top Secret" documents on a private server.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | August 20, 2015 2:31 AM |
I like her outfit and her hair looks nice in her chat with BLM.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | August 20, 2015 2:40 AM |
It's insane that there are freepers in here telling US about Hilary. In the words of Marco Rubio, "There is no candidate on either side of the aisle that comes close to her accomplishments, unless the right can solidify and unite, all will be lost" She will win and nothing will hold her back this time. I expect a landslide for her and the Mexican she chooses as a running mate. All the racists and mysogynists can drop dead, and all the insufferable women that are trying to tear her apart for being a woman will have a special place in hell for being mean girls.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | August 20, 2015 2:49 AM |
R70, there is no evidence to suggest she did!
by Anonymous | reply 73 | August 20, 2015 2:55 AM |
Ya gotta love the freepers. They must really think the election will be won by spamming a website for gay men. Giggle.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | August 20, 2015 3:06 AM |
R72 Look at you, Princess! Taking charge! Good for you.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | August 20, 2015 3:08 AM |
R74 Only the sad ones think it's spam. It's very noble of you to speak for (and giggle for!) all gay men, too. How sweet.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | August 20, 2015 3:09 AM |
R76 do you people actually get paid to post Republican shit on websites? How much does it pay?
by Anonymous | reply 77 | August 20, 2015 4:06 AM |
Are you kidding me r60? Yes that is crap!
by Anonymous | reply 78 | August 20, 2015 4:21 AM |
R77 No, I don't but how much 'ya got?
by Anonymous | reply 79 | August 20, 2015 4:24 AM |
R79 if you aren't getting paid, you are the very definition of somebody who needs to get a life. You're wasting your time here pal.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | August 20, 2015 5:00 AM |
R80 You're just full of fantasies, aren't you?
by Anonymous | reply 81 | August 20, 2015 5:05 AM |
[quote] I don't believe you change hearts. You change laws, you change allocation of resources, you change the way systems operate
She's right. You can win over all the hearts in the world, but American politicians don't give a shit what anyone else (especially their constituents) think(s) . 99.9% of U.S politicians are beholden to their corporate donors and vote according to how their donors want them to vote. And this group (BLM) are ineffective idiots who will never change most people's hearts. They are actually harming their cause every single time they talk or act
by Anonymous | reply 82 | August 20, 2015 6:09 AM |
She doesn't have my vote anyway.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | August 20, 2015 6:36 AM |
R12 should be any day now, right?
by Anonymous | reply 84 | June 4, 2021 9:24 PM |
Hillary would much rather speak to a room filled with elite black people than working class white people, that's why she didn't win.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | June 4, 2021 9:34 PM |
FUCK OFF 2015 BUMPER, DEFACTO
by Anonymous | reply 86 | June 4, 2021 9:44 PM |
Bernie is a Jew. BLM is not going to associate with a hymie.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | June 5, 2021 2:49 AM |
I totally agree with that quote. Spot-on, and I’m surprised she sees it that way and can say it.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | June 5, 2021 2:51 AM |
R33 at the very least, the “unelectable” part turned out to be true.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | August 4, 2021 9:43 PM |
She seemed to win her Senate seat just fine, Dejure
by Anonymous | reply 90 | August 4, 2021 9:45 PM |
R90 Ah yes, [italic]Senator[/italic] Clinton with her deep convictions. How could I forget?
by Anonymous | reply 91 | August 4, 2021 9:48 PM |
What does that have to do with electability, retard?
by Anonymous | reply 92 | August 4, 2021 9:52 PM |
I thought Muriel banned thread bumping from threads prior to 2020? Anyway, why aren't we banning Dejure/Defacto/GermanGayGuy?
by Anonymous | reply 93 | August 4, 2021 9:53 PM |
Gays changed hearts. That’s what we did—one person at a time. Now it’s all shit.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | August 4, 2021 10:22 PM |
R92 she behind Al Gore in 2000. He got 60% of the vote in NY that year, she got 55%. She was lucky NY was such a democratic state that she was able to beat the super adorable & fuckable Rick Lazio. She has never been able to get elected anywhere else. She’s a toxic bitch with a reverse Midas touch.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | February 28, 2022 2:46 PM |
The only thing worse than a bossy hypocrite is a bossy bottom hypocrite.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | February 28, 2022 3:01 PM |
Why are you bumping 7 year old threads??????????
by Anonymous | reply 97 | February 28, 2022 3:03 PM |