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Bodybuilding and Sublimated Homosexuality. How common is it?

Bodybuilding has always been associated with homosexuality. Usually, people outside the bodybuilding world see bodybuilders with suspicion given its homoerotic overtones which is no secret to anybody. Professionals who have studied the bodybuilding subculture have also evidenced how homoerotic this activity is both at the gym and on stage. At the same time, they have also seen that, among all athletes (debatable term for bodybuilders though) bodybuilers seem much more distressed by anything related with homosexuality, yet they have seen that many bodybuilders cross the boundaries of heterosexuality in some way or another while still identifying themselves as straight.

I have read a few times that many men use bodybuilding as a means to sublimate their repressed same-sex attraction. It is basically men who will probably never accept their homo/bisexuality. Bodybuilding, in this sense, allows them to experience their same-sex attaction is a less explicit and/or threatehting way. Being around other muscular men observing their muscular bodies without being suspected of homosexuality by their muscular peers and all other homoerotic instances attached to the sport.

How common could sublimated homosexuality be in the bodybuilding subculture? Have some of you guys ever seen something like this?

by Anonymousreply 156June 10, 2020 1:49 PM

Why don't you go to a gym and hang out and observe, and chat up some bodybuilders and discover such things through experience. Bodybuilders include all sexual orientations, dear. Always have, always will. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar and a sport is just a sport.

by Anonymousreply 1August 16, 2015 11:37 PM

in that case mma, football and rugby players are homophobic gays too.

by Anonymousreply 2August 16, 2015 11:54 PM

It does help to explain how a lot of current and former Sean Cody models turn to bodybuilding (while claiming to be straight).

by Anonymousreply 3August 16, 2015 11:57 PM

They love it

by Anonymousreply 4August 17, 2015 12:33 AM

R3 You're right. Last time I found out Stu started to participate in bodybuilding contests. He looks considerably big now.

by Anonymousreply 5August 17, 2015 3:02 AM

There is special hatred against homosexuality in bodybuilding. Prabably because they equate homosexuality with weakness and effeminacy and, those are exactly the things they are trying not to project by building muscualr bodies that look threatening and "masculine".

by Anonymousreply 6August 17, 2015 5:10 PM

Bodybuilders and gym rats are extremely defensive about their 'hobby' I have had a few twitter arguments with straight fitness models who get very annoyed when I comment on their narcissism. They can't even accept that it is inherently vain, which I guess they link with effeminacy, let alone that it is by extension homoerotic. They insist it's all about 'fitness' yeah ok!

by Anonymousreply 7August 31, 2015 8:24 AM

I think dear old Oscar Wilde had it right when he said 'Everything's about sex, except sex, that is all bout power' in very masculine and macho circles I think power and sexuality overlap. Bodybuilding and rugby etc are all about hot guys competing with eachother, but underlying that is a palpable sexual tension. Hawwwt!

by Anonymousreply 8August 31, 2015 8:28 AM

R7 If you type "bodybuilding homoerotic" on twitter there are a lot of comments on it XD

by Anonymousreply 9August 31, 2015 1:26 PM

There aren't many studies addressing the topic of sublimated homosexuality in bodybuilding, just a few quick mentions, but the suspicion that many of them, especially the homophobic ones might in fact be gay and bisexual exists. Many show contradictory behaviour; highly homophobic but they prostitute themselves with other men.

by Anonymousreply 10August 31, 2015 9:24 PM

Male bodybuilding is very gay

I love it

by Anonymousreply 11September 6, 2015 7:05 PM

This is not what a sport looks like, this is what homoerotic shows look like.

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by Anonymousreply 12September 6, 2015 7:15 PM

Of course their are some homophobic gay men ( or bi) in bodybuilding. But there are even more just pure narcissist in the sport (lol..yeah i know calling it a sport). There are also just run of the mill insecure guys doing to as overcompensation. The whole homo thing is but one part of what drives some of them. It's rarely about the money since it's the rare few that make any money from it.

by Anonymousreply 13September 6, 2015 7:22 PM

Retired gym rat here, and OP's questions are right on. It's just extremely common to encounter repressed guys who are probably 'not 100% heterosexual' in this setting. It's a safe way to bond with the 'bros and immerse themselves in male beauty, even if they don't act on the urges (except maybe alone, as a masturbation fantasy). Why the fuck not? I figure, if you're out at the gym, you're maybe doing some poor schlub a favor as a positive role model he can emulate some day.

These days, about 1/3 of young Americans identify as 'not entirely heterosexual'. In the UK, it's closer to 50%.

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by Anonymousreply 14September 6, 2015 7:28 PM

In general, young straight guys will do the gym thing until they land a mate/spouse. Then they either let themselves go or try their best to make their spouse their workout partner. The gay demographic at gym swings much older and long-term.

by Anonymousreply 15September 6, 2015 7:38 PM

An NFL football player just left a comment on a popular male fitness model's Instagram asking him how to get in touch with him to to talk business. The fitness model hangs out in WeHo a lot. I wonder what the "business" actually is. The player has nothing but shirtless pics on his Instagram. That seems gay to me. Men are into looking at that, not women, so much.

by Anonymousreply 16September 6, 2015 7:56 PM

Why not share the link, R16?

by Anonymousreply 17September 6, 2015 8:01 PM

I get a Kerry Rhodes vibe. Read the comments.

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by Anonymousreply 18September 6, 2015 8:03 PM

It was Freud that coined the concept of "sublimated homosexuality", right? When you find your same-sex attraction unacceptable but still you have the urges so you subconscioulsy find other ways to experience those feelings in less threatening ways.

by Anonymousreply 19September 6, 2015 8:08 PM

That's interesting.

by Anonymousreply 20September 6, 2015 8:09 PM

I read the comments on fitness model instagrams/face books and 95% are guys and many on post shirtless pics of themselves to the fitness model. I think most if not all of them are gay or bisexual.

by Anonymousreply 21September 6, 2015 8:12 PM

R18, curious. But this one differs from Rhodes in that Rhodes isn't into white twinks.

by Anonymousreply 22September 6, 2015 8:13 PM

What do you think R22? I've never heard of him so not sure if it matters, but is curious.

by Anonymousreply 23September 6, 2015 8:17 PM


A lot of these bodybuilders do overcompensate due to bring short and skinny.

You will never find a bodybuilder who was not skinny.

by Anonymousreply 24September 6, 2015 8:52 PM


That nfl player is now a free agent and most likely looking for a next career of he does not get picked up by a team ever again. He possibly gay or bi.

by Anonymousreply 25September 6, 2015 8:56 PM

I don't know about looking for his next gig. I don't think that what he's looking for.

by Anonymousreply 26September 6, 2015 8:58 PM

R28 you really have no idea what he was looking for other than your own pure speculations on the matter.

by Anonymousreply 27September 6, 2015 9:04 PM


It's a possibility he's looking for sex maybe

by Anonymousreply 28September 6, 2015 9:04 PM

That's just a rumor started by fat girls who can't get any man to look at them twice.

by Anonymousreply 29September 6, 2015 9:06 PM

Oh my. Why else a guy contact a questionable attractive guy who's a fitness model in WeHo?

by Anonymousreply 30September 6, 2015 9:08 PM

He could not be looking for sex, but I would bet he is.

by Anonymousreply 31September 6, 2015 9:09 PM

[R14] When did you stop bodybuilding? did you ever meet closeted guys who came on to you?

by Anonymousreply 32September 6, 2015 9:12 PM

An acquaintace of mine who is a bisexual guy. He goes to a gym about 3 times a week. He doesn't train his upper body much, but his legs and butt are super muscular. In fact, he loves traing the butt and legs because they attract more guys. He usually tells me that the other men at the gym always find excuses to talk to him and they usually begin with things like "wow, look at your legs", "they look incredible" and stuff like that. This usually comes with some touching. He actually likes it so he never stops the guys from touching his muscles.

In his own words, "gyms are gay", there is a lot of homoerotic stuff going on but no one addresses the topic explicitly.

by Anonymousreply 33September 6, 2015 9:38 PM

But just because someone is admiring your body doesn't mean they want to sleep with you. I've admired a woman with a great fit body many times but there is zero desire there to bang them. It's way to easy to read too much into such encounters. Actually it's more envy in that damn i bet she get's some hot dick with that bod. Guys can often think yep i bet you get some great pussy with a bod like that

by Anonymousreply 34September 6, 2015 9:45 PM

I've been with four guys who defined themselves as "straight" (possibly more, but then we haven't talked about it). All four where massive gym bunnies. One went so far after a while, as to admit he was 100% homosexual, and told his whole story and relation to working out.... It was really like hearing someone talking about their anorexia, but with the aim of gaining weight instead of loosing it, and all related to a domineering homophobic dad. He didn't pick up guys at the gym, but he told me that there where gay guys who did. Neither do I think he gained material for a fabbing session there, as he was more into thin guys with spaghetti arms like me.

by Anonymousreply 35September 6, 2015 9:45 PM

How can one be more than straight?

by Anonymousreply 36September 6, 2015 9:48 PM

R36 ? What do you mean?

by Anonymousreply 37September 6, 2015 9:52 PM

You said they described themselves as "straight" (possibly more...).

by Anonymousreply 38September 6, 2015 9:54 PM

R36 R38 I see, lol.... not more than straight. There might have been more guys that defined themselves as straight.... only I didn't know because the dialogue probably went something like: "Do you like this song? Are you top or bottom? My place or yours?"

by Anonymousreply 39September 6, 2015 9:58 PM

Really? Is that how the conversation goes? How did they approach you for sex? Did they stare and follow you around the gym? Did they ask if you could blow them or something like that?

by Anonymousreply 40September 6, 2015 10:00 PM

I only pick up guys at bars/ clubs. -Do you ask people about their sexual orientation before you sleep with them? -If they want to tell me where their preference is, then don't stop them, but I don't care much, really. I don't go to the gym. I go to pilates at a yoga studio down the street, but all I can pick up there are post-natal women, and I don't exactly stare at them or follow them around the studio. Yes, I've gone home with guys who asked me if I would blow them, if that's important to you. Sometimes sex doesn't have to be complicated.

by Anonymousreply 41September 6, 2015 10:19 PM

Just curious but has anybody ever met a gay bodybuilder who was a top?

by Anonymousreply 42September 7, 2015 10:54 AM

Dude, "sublimated?"

by Anonymousreply 43September 7, 2015 1:13 PM

R41, if that's your lifestyle and life goals, I guess it works for you.

by Anonymousreply 44September 7, 2015 1:14 PM

Probably, those who go to the gym and are involved in bodybuilding somehow who interact with them may tell us about this.

It is more a matter of observation because men sublimating homosexuality through bodybuilding will not tell you their interest in the "sport" has erotic elements and probably, they are very concerned about not looking "gay". However, subcosciously they may engage in more evident homoerotic dymamics in the gym such as feeling other men's muscles or giving other men compliments with subtle (sometimes subconscious) erotic undertones.

by Anonymousreply 45September 7, 2015 4:41 PM

R32, I got a serious lower back injury at 49 and switched to swimming and Yoga. I still have a reasonable degree of fitness, but I lost most all of the size.

I was always out at the gym, and that served me well with consistent hookups, sometimes with very unexpected guys, and occasionally with men in various committed straight relationships. But I never had any encounters at the gym, for various reasons including possible management freakouts.

by Anonymousreply 46September 8, 2015 1:12 AM

R46 so you spent all that time at the gym, why don't you fill us in about your current happiness and your beloved partner. Or are you alone despide 49 years at the gym? Do tell us

by Anonymousreply 47September 8, 2015 2:17 AM

When a guy is actively looking for sex at the gym or in bodybuilding competitions, even if being closeted, then that's not sublimated homosexuality.

Sublimation occurs when you repress your homosexuality (ex: not willing to kiss or have sex with other men) so you subconsciously (generally subconsciously) find other ways to experience those feelings. You know, sexual needs are like a flowing river, you cannot stop the stream so even if you try, it will find other paths to keep flowing.

Bodybuilding, rugby, wrestling, etc either being an athlete or just being an spectator they can perfectly be the alternative path to let that river flow.

by Anonymousreply 48September 8, 2015 2:37 AM

Before sexuality comes into play, you have to acknowledge the addiction to endorphins. It takes more and more weight and time to score that buzz.

The dismorphia, narcissism, boring monologues on fitness philosophy, and sexuality help dramatize or disguise the addiction, but remain secondary traits.

by Anonymousreply 49September 8, 2015 2:42 AM

When you say "fitness philosophy", do you mean those long posts body builder's/fitness models type trying to be intellectual talking about life and "never giving up" while posing half-naked? I've seen this on many profiles and these guys are nauseating.

by Anonymousreply 50September 8, 2015 3:05 AM

gay men just have to own that at times it's far more about your own fantasies than the guys you're lusting after.

by Anonymousreply 51September 8, 2015 3:06 AM

Reading the comments and looking at the followers on sicial media accounts I notice that overwhelming majority come from Mexico, Argentina, Puerto Rico and the Middle East. And, the vast majority of them are male, at least 97% of them. They all comment with how good these men look with lots of sexual undertones. Some comments are from gay men, but others you can tell are from closet-cases or those with same-sex attraction because the comments are not overt with flirtiness but these guys would immediately drop to their knees if given the chance to be with one of their "idols".

by Anonymousreply 52September 8, 2015 4:55 AM

*social media accounts of fitness models/body builders.

by Anonymousreply 53September 8, 2015 4:56 AM

So R52/R53 all you have proven is you've chosen a highly biased sample where it's not cool to be out. OF COURSE that's what you'd find seeking support. Now go try again

by Anonymousreply 54September 8, 2015 4:59 AM

So how common is to observe men sublimating their homosexuality by doing bodybuilding or becoming a bodybuilding fan?

All evidence is anecdotal anyway, we rely on personal conclusions when observing men interacting with each other.

by Anonymousreply 55September 8, 2015 5:15 AM

Wow, Google "muscle dysmorphia". Interesting

by Anonymousreply 56September 8, 2015 9:22 AM

What are you talking about R54?

Are you the poster from Louisiana by chance?

by Anonymousreply 57September 8, 2015 11:53 AM

You want to see gay bodybuilders? Go find the guys dating FEMALE bodybuilders.

Oi vey what closet cases.

by Anonymousreply 58September 8, 2015 12:25 PM

I wondered that too. Guys who date very muscular or fit women, that seems curious to me.

by Anonymousreply 59September 8, 2015 1:45 PM

Gina Carano, anyone?

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by Anonymousreply 60September 8, 2015 1:57 PM

People are diverting the thread from the original topic in discussion.

by Anonymousreply 61September 8, 2015 6:23 PM

I just think the bodybuilding community just need accept that the hobby is homoerotic, and the bodybuilders love the attention either way.

by Anonymousreply 62September 9, 2015 8:40 PM

I think they like the attention and they are gay or bisexual.

by Anonymousreply 63September 9, 2015 9:12 PM

I think they all just like a cheap finger up the poop hole.

by Anonymousreply 64September 10, 2015 5:58 PM

I was always aware of my homosexuality but I was one of those kids who used to think homosexuality was just a phase and would eventually go away in the future. I never dated anybody so masturbation was my only release of sex drive.

Meanwhile I enjoyed looking and muscular men on the net. I bought two Muscle&Fitness magazines once, they were my porn mags, haha.

Even though I was aware of my homosexuality, but never really acted on it, I guess my approaching to those magazines and eventual interets in muscular men was a semi-subconscious way in which I started to explore my same-sex attraction. In other words, I was sublimating my homosexuality just not by engaging myself in the activity but by being observer.

Eventually one day I met a bodybuilder who showed interest in me and we had our thing, but at that time I was not sublimating anymore :P

by Anonymousreply 65September 11, 2015 8:24 AM

I don't think we will hear any anti-gay remarks from bodybuilders since most do gay4pay and sponsored by rich gay men.

by Anonymousreply 66September 12, 2015 12:00 AM

G4P runs rampant privately. It is not something that bodybuilders talk about naturally and openly but all of them know that the business exists and a lot of them are engaged in it.

Only a portion of them make it somehow publically such as those who do webcam shows or openly participate in gay porn.

by Anonymousreply 67September 13, 2015 2:00 AM

Bingo 67. A lot of folks do things to pay the bills that will make them the most money. In a lot of ways this is nothing different. Guess who would actually pay a bodybuilder for his services ( and often quite well)? Rarely will that person be a women.

by Anonymousreply 68September 13, 2015 2:29 AM

I'm reluctant to believe that the majoroty of bodybuilders doing G4P is purely a monetary interest. If you'rewilling to let other man touch your private areas or even have sex with other men then you're not heterosexual, period.

by Anonymousreply 69September 13, 2015 4:13 AM

At my gym one hottie made a small fortune farting in balloons and selling his anal gas on eBay.

by Anonymousreply 70September 13, 2015 11:55 PM

That is completely false, R66. There are wuite a few homophobic bodybuilders and fitness models out there.

R70, you lying?

by Anonymousreply 71September 14, 2015 12:10 AM

Something I find very hypocritical about bodybuilders is that, especially when the topic involves gay guys and bodybuilding/bodybuilders, bodybuilders tend to act as if muscularity and bodybuilding had nothing to with sexuality and sex appeal. They act as if they were puzzled by the fact that muscularity is tightly related to sex appeal and want to make us believe that their pursue of muscularity was never related by their personal interest in being seen a sexually more appealing in any degree.

Now, when the topic involves women, then they love the conecction of muscularity/bodybuilding with sexuality. They never complain about women sexually objectifying bodybuilders.

That's double standards.

by Anonymousreply 72September 14, 2015 5:32 AM

I've noticed that on bodybuilding websites, many of the posters are homophobic and throw out gay slurs like it's nothing. I've always found it very creepy.

by Anonymousreply 73September 14, 2015 5:36 AM

R73 Homophobia + obsession with male bodybuilding = repressed homosexuality.

by Anonymousreply 74September 14, 2015 5:41 AM

Here's a homophobic fitness model. His followers also tend be to be very feminine, male homophobes as well using gay slurs and so on. Which is very strange. A majority of them are foreign.

But, I don't think gay men who are interested in this sort of thing care.

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by Anonymousreply 75September 14, 2015 12:05 PM

No one likes Jeff Seid. Most guys treat him with homophobic slurs ironically.

by Anonymousreply 76September 14, 2015 12:23 PM

r75, I don't care because he's not relevant to me. I don't like it when people get so upset about someone being a jerk that they give the jerk power over their minds and emotions. Let him be. Ignore him.

by Anonymousreply 77September 14, 2015 1:17 PM

R77, the thread is about homophobia in bodybuilding. Did you miss that when you clicked into it? Stay on topic or you will get ignored.

by Anonymousreply 78September 14, 2015 1:19 PM

The thread is about the sublimation of homosexuality in bodybuilding. How bodybuilding attracts some men who in some way repress their same-sex attraction but let it come out by watching muscular men or getting involved in the "sport".

by Anonymousreply 79September 14, 2015 1:25 PM

A lot of straight guys bodybuild because they think that women love muscle queens. Most women like a well toned body and would prefer someone who is Mr Moneybags over a muscle queen any day of the week.

by Anonymousreply 80September 14, 2015 1:38 PM

The photo was deleted at R75. But, you can still see it. That's good.

by Anonymousreply 81September 14, 2015 1:45 PM

And a lot of gay men bodybuild because they think that guys love muscles too.

by Anonymousreply 82September 14, 2015 2:23 PM

I'm not going to complain hubby still thinks he has to keep his ass in tip top shape with all those squats. we have never once even have had a conversation. about it but he seems to get its part of the deal. My part is to keep the fuzz on the chin since it drives him nuts when i plant my face in there. Again just not something we've had to talk about

by Anonymousreply 83September 14, 2015 9:07 PM

Comments from body builders to other bodybuilders are so homophobic. Read them. What compels them to talk that way. They have to be screwed up sexually in some level.

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by Anonymousreply 84September 15, 2015 4:22 AM

Fat is ugly and huge muscles are ugly.

by Anonymousreply 85September 15, 2015 4:29 AM

When a guy frequents a bodybuilder's instagram and calls him gay, especially because he posted a sexually suggestive pic it says a lot baout the person hwjo call other gay. That guys is projecting his inner feelings on other in the form of accusation.

I know Jeff Seis is a homophobic muscle head, but just gave the comments a glance and some call him gay.

Everybody knows that repressed homosexuality runs rampant in bodybuilding. Bodybuilding fans are hungry to see muscles but cannot be open about it.

by Anonymousreply 86September 15, 2015 4:36 AM

Horrible typing but you can understand what I meant. >.<

by Anonymousreply 87September 15, 2015 4:38 AM

It always amazes me how any bodybuilding fans calls anything gay when they are a fan of something as gay as bodybuilding is.

by Anonymousreply 88September 15, 2015 6:21 AM

most body builders just don' turn me on. They get too big and the couple of guys like that i've been with really had poor flexibility for fucking so doggy was the best bet with them

by Anonymousreply 89September 15, 2015 6:24 AM

I remember a young bodybuilder who once posted a homophobic rant on his FB and a few weeks later who competed in bodybuilding. In his pics he was posing suggestively as it is inherent to bodybuilding which made me laugh because it seems that some bodybuilders don't realise how homoerotic bodybuilding is. He rant was because apparently a guy hit on him which made his masculinity collapse.

I'm always suspicious of men who engage in bodybuilding who are homophobic but have no apprehensions to get on stage almost naked to pose for an audience that is 98& male. I ean, do you really have to have a high IQ to see that what you're siong is homoerotic? Kind of their subconscious betrays them.

by Anonymousreply 90September 15, 2015 9:25 PM


The fans amaze me with their comments on something a bodybuilder did that was gay.

It's like they are unaware that they are fans of a very gay hobby.

by Anonymousreply 91September 17, 2015 3:53 PM

Are there any openly gay current or former pro bodybuilders?

by Anonymousreply 92September 17, 2015 3:59 PM

Well, if you've ever gone from skinny to fit muscular, you know that society treats you differently based on physique. And it's not only sexual. Straight guys comment on my body as "buff" or "jacked" more than gay men, by far. Women notice my physique too. People give buff guys more respect and attention

by Anonymousreply 93September 17, 2015 4:06 PM

R91...Jeff Seid, fitness model...I'm not sure if this is homophobic or not.

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by Anonymousreply 94September 17, 2015 4:27 PM

R91 Some sociologists have noticed that bodybuulders show greater anxiety than most athletes to things related to homosexuality. I would say that kost are super aware of what "sport" they are fans of and that is why they are so self-conscious about anything that they consider "gay".

R92 There have been few openly gay. Many remember Bob Paris whose body most consider ideal before bodybuilding turned into a show of freaky muscularity. I don't know much about today. In general, bodybuilding lives and promotes a lie in stubbornly trying to associate muscle with heterosexuality. Homosexuality is still strongly seen as a stigma in bodybuilding but ironically it is very common that these shows turn very homoerotic regardless of the sexual orientation of the "athletes". That without mentioning that many bodybuilders engage in forms of erotic filmography targeted at gay men. This side activities are not a secret to many in the bodybuilding world givent that it is difficutl to hide such activities today because of the internet so most bodybuilders who do this are aware that their peers will know. Apparently, many bodybuilders don't care when others engage in homoerotic/sexual videos.

by Anonymousreply 95September 17, 2015 7:44 PM

Here's comment from that Jeff Seid pic:

mikecj233 Jeff, not trying to upset you but you look like a queen bottom. I know your saying " wishful thinking faggot" . I just cumed listening to myself talking dirty

Why do some gay men refer to themselves in derogatory ways in order to impress assumed heterosexual males? Is this common in the "alpha male" world? Gay men seeing themselves as less-than? Any gay men here behave like this?

by Anonymousreply 96September 17, 2015 11:54 PM

Here's another comment by the same guy:

mikecj233yes, but will you let a queer stare

He must have mental problems. I think gay men who talk this way about themselves to bodybuilders have severe emotional problems that are rooted in their difficultly accepting the fact they are gay.

by Anonymousreply 97September 18, 2015 12:00 AM


by Anonymousreply 98September 18, 2015 12:04 AM

But that's ghetto language and gay guys who belong in gay culture will usually adopt that kind of gay slang and will refer to themselves with female pronounce and nouns. That's the way some gay guys socialize in gay culture.

Also, since the guy (Jeff) is allegedly heterosexual, in other words, he doesn't like men and masculinity, the gay guy who's trying to flirt with this man creates a feminine personality probably subconsciously thinking that might attract Jeff.

by Anonymousreply 99September 18, 2015 2:42 AM

Faggot and queer is gay slang?

by Anonymousreply 100September 18, 2015 2:46 AM

Not in the way it was used R99.

Do you use this language R99?

by Anonymousreply 101September 18, 2015 2:47 AM

R101 I don't but we all know that is common that certain gay guys use female nouns to refer to themselves: Queen, sister and all that stuff.

by Anonymousreply 102September 18, 2015 4:21 AM


by Anonymousreply 103September 18, 2015 4:26 AM

I'm not talking about "queen". Im talking about the gay slurs he used to describe himself.

Can I ask you a question...are the you that "my English is good enough" troll from the Aaron Ridgers threads?

by Anonymousreply 104September 18, 2015 12:11 PM

R102, annoying gay guys do that

by Anonymousreply 105September 18, 2015 12:53 PM

In bodybuilding there are lots of gay and bisexual bodybuilders, however the industry frowns upon homosexuality and sees it as a stigma on bodybuilding so most prefer to stay in the closet. In other cases their sexual orientation is known to some extent, but the topic in never addressed naturally and openly. If the topic comes up it will usually be in the form of either jokes or homophobia.

Last year I read an interview with an open gay bodybuilder and personal trainer who told it has been a bit difficult for him, discrimination and homophobia in general is rampant in bodybuilding and in some way he has elt isolated for beign an open gay competitor. But he still is actively involved in bodybuilding.

Contradictory bodybuilding is when you see what these men do on stage for an audience that's practically male in its entirety. Pay attention to minute 01:06 That's practically striptease move for the males.

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by Anonymousreply 106September 18, 2015 1:13 PM

So, I guess gay men calling gay people fa-gots and que-rs is okay.

by Anonymousreply 107September 18, 2015 2:23 PM

Hey girl. Check out my ass. I've been working on it all week. You can even lick it if you want.

by Anonymousreply 108September 18, 2015 2:26 PM

Bodybuilding mags were my Playboy.

by Anonymousreply 109September 20, 2015 7:09 AM

As my straight bodybuilder friend says, he is okay with normal masculine bi and gay dudes who act "normal" and blend in as a regular guy in the scene. He said that the problem is gay guys who act overtly effeminate, creepy, and predatory, which makes people uncomfortable and weirded out.

by Anonymousreply 110September 20, 2015 11:40 AM

It sounds like your straight bodybuilder friend sees his masculinity fall apart by the mere sight of an effeminate man. What a feeble masculinity that is and how weak that bodybuilder is, don't you think?

I don't want to bash your friend but it sounds ironic that he is dictatting what's normal when he's pursuing a appearance that's not normal and possibly it has a lot to do with a self-perceived lack of masculinity that he might be trying to compensate by building a muscular body. Perhaps his masculinity collapses when he sees an effeminate man near him because it reminds him of his feeble masculinity.

by Anonymousreply 111September 20, 2015 12:04 PM

r111, that is the typical response to effeminate men by other men. Don't act like it's an abnormal reaction.

by Anonymousreply 112September 21, 2015 2:45 PM

Masculinity is weak, R112

by Anonymousreply 113September 21, 2015 3:13 PM

it's actually an insecure reaction if it concerns you how masculine or fem another guy is. I'm so sick of this you have to act like me that i'll consider you a normal human being. I've even a pretty masculine guy myself but i've just lost my patience for folks ( especially in the gay community) that you're deeming yourself superior if you happen to be masculine. Grow the fuck up.

by Anonymousreply 114September 21, 2015 3:27 PM

Bodybuilding is inherently not normal.

by Anonymousreply 115September 21, 2015 3:53 PM

People can be very immature and tribal. I think non-masculine guys bring out those inclinations.

by Anonymousreply 116September 21, 2015 3:57 PM

I have always found bodybuilders who act as if there is nothing sexual about muscles to be hypocrites when in fact sexual attractivess is one of the main reasons for 99% of bodybuilders to bodybuild and compete.

Sex drive is one of the strongest impusles in human nature. If being fat or being skinny were synomym of sexual attractiveness then men would pursue those looks.

You work out because you want people to notice your muscles. You compete because you are an exhibitionist and you enjoy people looking at your nearly naked body.

by Anonymousreply 117September 21, 2015 6:02 PM

More homophobia from "fitness model" Jeff Seid. This guy is obsessed with gay people.

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by Anonymousreply 118September 23, 2015 4:30 PM

Does it come as a surprise that there is so much homophobia in bodybuilding? It shouldn't be surprising. Bodybuilding is about you getting on a stage almost naked , flexing, posing for other males, confronting muscualrity with other males and searching the opinion of other males (judges) on your physique.

What did you expect in bodybuilding, an activity so evidently HOMOerotically charged.

There's a lot of reaction formation in bodybuilding. Homophobia is a neurotic reaction given that the activity is again, so HOMOerotic, that the suspicion of homosexuality haunts them every single day.

Have you read those bodybuilding forums? There are so many topics about homosexuality, there is so much fear that I have no doubt that bodybuilding is full of men in denial, fighting their true homsoexual/bisexual nature.

by Anonymousreply 119September 23, 2015 5:14 PM

Bodybuilding.com, R119, is one of the most hate-filled homophobic sites I have ever seen. I don't even use that site to research supplements anymore just because of how homophobic it is.

by Anonymousreply 120September 23, 2015 5:23 PM

Read the comments unders that NO HOMO pic on twitter. The girls is really amd at him.

Don't forget to tell Jeff that bodybuilding is GAY!!

by Anonymousreply 121September 23, 2015 5:30 PM

He does "no homo" a lot. His snap chat is filled with it. I'll find his snap.

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by Anonymousreply 122September 23, 2015 5:35 PM

Here's a snap: his "no homo" is at the end with :17 seconds left in the video.

I think every gay man should go see him at fitness model shows.

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by Anonymousreply 123September 23, 2015 5:39 PM

That actually would be hilarious. People trolling Jeff at every bodybuilding event and remiding him that he practises the most homoerotic activity in this world.


The more homophobia the more people will think he is a closeted case. Also, the more homophobia the more detrimental for the reputation of bodybuilding.

by Anonymousreply 124September 23, 2015 5:55 PM

There are so many suspiciously closeted gay males who follow this guy or follow bodybuilding and fitness modeling. It makes me think that are a ton of gay and bi men in this world.

by Anonymousreply 125September 23, 2015 5:57 PM

If it wasn't for the male homosexual population bodybuilding would not survive. Who do you think that pays for the tickets to these events and buy their posters and related stuff? We pay for them.

Most of the heterosexual men don't feel any interest in wathcing nearly naked men doing suggestive poses on a stage. They prefer to spend time watching female competitions in that case just like homosexual men don't feel any interest in paying a ticket to see female competitors.

I think Jeff Seid is only deceiving himself. Your "sport" is Gay for the GAYS!

by Anonymousreply 126September 23, 2015 6:07 PM

Another girl posted on twitter:

"When you realize your favorite inspirational bodybuilder @Jeff_Seid is homophobic 😒😒"

by Anonymousreply 127September 23, 2015 6:11 PM

I would love it if flamey gay guys went to his fitness appearances and screamed for his name and threw money at him demanding he do "gay for pay".

by Anonymousreply 128September 23, 2015 8:25 PM

Bodybuilding is a masquerade. Building the outside to hide the feeble inside.

It is interesting to notice that real sports regarded as tough and very masculine such as rugby which are also regarded as at least mildly homoerotic are seeing the coming out of many gay/bisexual sportsmen and not only that, many heterosexual rugby players are active supporters of anti-homophobia campaign not afraid of being associated with homosxuality. That's very progressive for such sport.

Bodybuilding, on the other hand, being this a beauty pageant that is not mildly homoerotic but strongly and deeply homoerotic is so afraid of being associated with homosexuality, it is almost paranoid how much bodybuilders fear homosexuality depsite what they actually do.

I haven't seen any bodybuilders campaigning against homophobia in bodybuilding the same way I have seen it in rugby. I doubt it that will happen as long as its reputation for being homophobia actually starts affecting the image of the "sport".

by Anonymousreply 129September 24, 2015 4:05 AM

I would imagine that a lot of these bodybuilders are gay and bodybuilding and attaining the biggest muscles possible is akin to an ex-gay conversion therapy. Just my opinion.

by Anonymousreply 130September 24, 2015 3:13 PM

Well, it is not that guys bodybuild because that will take the feelings away and magically they will turn heterosexual. However, doing bodybuilding may be a choice some homophobes may embrace because society, to some extent, still equates muscualrity with power, dominance and heterosexuality.

Homophobes are described as showing great degree of authoritarianism; bodybuilders also show great degree of authoriatainism and rigid sexuality tightly related to patriarchal conceptions so bodybuilding is a natural appeal for men who reject their same sex attraction who are attempting to be seen and see themselves as heterosexual.

by Anonymousreply 131September 24, 2015 4:25 PM

They bodybuild because they don't want to be thought of as a "fag". But, the jokes on them.

by Anonymousreply 132September 24, 2015 4:37 PM

Pumped, swollen, thick, engorged, near naked hard bodies admired, cheered on by enthusiastic men......yeah no parallels or symbolism of any kind

by Anonymousreply 133September 24, 2015 6:06 PM

"No homo" - Jeff Seid

by Anonymousreply 134September 24, 2015 6:09 PM

Bodybuilding - Total Homo :P

by Anonymousreply 135September 24, 2015 6:10 PM

[R93] How buff are you? are you gay?

by Anonymousreply 136September 25, 2015 8:38 AM

Very homoerotic and sexy

It's obvious that a lot of them were advertising to rich gay sponsors

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by Anonymousreply 137September 25, 2015 3:53 PM

Not sexy at all.

by Anonymousreply 138September 25, 2015 4:16 PM

Not sexy bro

by Anonymousreply 139September 25, 2015 4:24 PM

R137 And they cleverly disable comments because they know that video has some sexual overtones with those men walking around with their little posing suits, other lifting weights and moaning with every lift. Sexual comments are inevitable in this type of videos.

No one can honestly deny these men play the homoerotic tune all the time.

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by Anonymousreply 140September 25, 2015 4:40 PM


Notice how There's mostly men there with one one woman spotted.

by Anonymousreply 141September 25, 2015 5:35 PM

Yeah, it's all closeted or gay.

by Anonymousreply 142September 25, 2015 5:43 PM

Most of the people who tan bodybuoders are men and the most interesting part is whe they get to the crotch area, haha.

Not that all of these men are gay, it is just that bodybuilding is this way. No wonder why so many of them do webcam shows for guys or other forms of what they call G4P. To some extent, bodybuilding demands certain degree of open-mindedness.

by Anonymousreply 143September 25, 2015 5:57 PM

if you're going to use body building to pay the bills it's almost always other dudes ( gay or bi) that end up being the payers of those bills so i guess you do what you gotta do.

by Anonymousreply 144September 26, 2015 3:54 PM

These guys "perform" for men because they want to. There's nothing "do what you gotta do" anything.

by Anonymousreply 145September 26, 2015 4:03 PM

Bodybuilding is a field to explore one's sexuality if there is anything you're repressing about yourself that involves the same sex.

Repressed feelings always find a way out.

by Anonymousreply 146September 26, 2015 5:30 PM


I agree just due to the homoeroticism

I pay attention to some age and notice there's no lady or kids for some.

by Anonymousreply 147September 27, 2015 11:17 AM

Little piece in this article defining sublimation.

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by Anonymousreply 148October 1, 2015 11:09 PM

So much fantasy fiction here

by Anonymousreply 149October 2, 2015 12:47 AM

Are there gay guys who follow and are fans of female bodybuilding/bodybuilders?

I mean, most fans of bodybuilding identify as heterosexual. Sometimes they seem too obsessed with the male body. They usually compliment their idols on their physical appearance and sometimes they start quarrels with other fans discussing which male bodybuilder looks better.

If heterosexual bodybuilding fans get so obsessed with male bodybuilders and the male body yet they express they don't have any sort of sexual/erotic interest in them, what then stops gay men from passionately following female bodybuilding and bodybuilders?

by Anonymousreply 150October 15, 2015 3:27 PM

I don't think it works like that, R150.

by Anonymousreply 151October 15, 2015 3:30 PM

How then? R151

by Anonymousreply 152October 16, 2015 4:20 AM

I just found a conflict caused by a fitness model or bodybuider Logan Franklin who made fun of AIDS and people with Aids, apparently, there is some subtle homophobia from him between the lines. Then his mother came in to defend his son and she was more straight out homophobic. The mother keeps saying her sone, Logan Franklin is not "queer" and that she is tired of the implication being made. She prides herself in being a christias all the time too. Then a woman briefly calls her out on her homophobia and how the pics her son, Logan Franklin is taken as a muscle man are provocative thus unChristian.

Another man who worked with him and is fully immerse in the bodybuilding world calls him and her on their homophobia and it reminds him that the bodybuilding only exists thanks to the "gay community", about a 95% of the insdutry is sustaine dby gay fans and, eithout them he would not be living his dream.

Reading how the bodybuilding industry is greatly sustained by gay fans was glorious. Rarely acknowldged but it had to be said :) Have a read.

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by Anonymousreply 153September 15, 2017 12:12 AM

Bodybuilders use dildos more often than non-bodybuilders

by Anonymousreply 154September 15, 2017 12:12 AM

Olympia starts this week I think. The biggest celebration of muscular male beauty where masses of men gather together to scream, cheer and gawk at masses of almost naked muscle men, but hey, it is pure athletic admiration, right? XD

by Anonymousreply 155September 16, 2017 1:06 AM

Big strong repressed guys who all work out together and huff each other’s fumes and then go home to furiously fuck women, all the while imagining that they are touching each other, are probably one of my biggest fantasies.

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