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Will there be a posthumous Cosby moment when Kirk Douglas die?

Will people start to talk openly about him being a rapist once he's finally kicked it? Or will they just pay effusive tributes to him and pretend everything's fine?

(Inspired by the "Celebrities You're Surprised Are Still Alive" thread.)

by Anonymousreply 37December 12, 2018 6:21 PM

(die = dies)

by Anonymousreply 1August 15, 2015 12:28 AM

It will be too bad that they waited for him to die(if they even go after him), considering Cosby is still alive and was trying to still work. Maybe that won't matter with Douglas because he's probably not all there anymore.

by Anonymousreply 2August 15, 2015 12:40 AM

There are different rules for Jews.

Don't look to the media for truth.

by Anonymousreply 3August 15, 2015 12:45 AM

Well, that went downhill fast...

by Anonymousreply 4August 15, 2015 12:48 AM

It won't be the same. Kirk Douglas didn't spend decades scolding people for their behavior, and his persona was never that squeaky clean. He played adsholes and tough guys, not funny dads. He also has a powerful son to stick up for him.

Plus, one rape accusation for which there have been rumors for decades doesn't compare to the dozens for Cosby. Had only one or two people accused Cosby, his reputation might have been salvageable, unfortunately.

by Anonymousreply 5August 15, 2015 12:49 AM

Remember when Bill Clinton scolded black kids for having lots of sex?

by Anonymousreply 6August 15, 2015 12:52 AM

Only one person accused Polanski, you don't see many people letting that go. It will always hang over him.

Woody Allen molested his daughter and had sex with another daughter figure. When he dies people will be arguing about "no proof" and "But he and Sun-Yi were married for decades and they were in love!" Now, if their adopted daughters accuse him of something, well, then he'll finally get his comeuppance in the public, even if it's posthumously.

by Anonymousreply 7August 15, 2015 12:55 AM

Wasn't Kirk Douglas implicated in a murder as well as a rape?

Hopefully Lana Wood spills ALL!

by Anonymousreply 8August 15, 2015 8:36 PM

Kirk turned 99 today.

by Anonymousreply 9December 9, 2015 9:27 PM

Who did Kirk Douglas rape?

by Anonymousreply 10December 9, 2015 10:56 PM

R8, in 1949 an aspiring actress named Jean Spangler was murdered, and in her purse was a note addressed to a "Kirk". It wasn't a terribly common name in 1949 but there were probably hundreds of thousands of Kirks in the L.A. area, but some people have wondered if the note were meant for the well-known Kirk Douglas. There has never been any other evidence linking him to Spangler or the murder.

The rape rumors were based on a blind item in a book about Natalie Wood, where they said she had been raped at 15 and gave a bunch of clues that seemed to point to Douglas. The source of the item (Lana?) said she'd name the rapist when he died, and Douglas is still alive. That one isn't confirmed, but seems likely.

He's always been known to be an asshole, but for some reason Hollywood has never held it against him.

by Anonymousreply 11December 9, 2015 11:15 PM

You can't compare him to Polanski. Polanskis' victim gave grand jury testimony and Polanski pled guilty to a lesser charge. Natalie Wood is dead and never gave testimony. At this point it's just a guess.

by Anonymousreply 12December 9, 2015 11:27 PM

Blacks exist for Jews to throw under the bus.

by Anonymousreply 13December 9, 2015 11:30 PM

I hope there will be a posthumous tribute to his bulge.

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by Anonymousreply 14December 10, 2015 11:04 AM

[quote]Well, that went downhill fast...

What, the antisemite? No surprise there. I've been using my 3 FFs a day for weeks now thanks to the Stormfront trolls. Constant n-words, antisemitism, homophobia... it's totally out of control.

by Anonymousreply 15December 10, 2015 11:47 AM

R11, Spangler disappeared -- her body was never found. She's still listed on The Charley Project.

She'd been an extra in a film with Kirk Douglas (Young Man With a Horn) just prior to her murder. Apparently Douglas phoned the LAPD on his own to tell them he wasn't the Kirk in the note, which seemed odd to people at the time.

Bob Cummings remembered her from The Petty Girl and said she seemed happy, and had a new beau after divorcing her husband.

Since she told relatives she was heading out to see her ex-husband Dexter, and since the note to "Kirk" was still in her purse, it's very likely that this Kirk wasn't involved in her disappearance. She was probably killed by Dexter, who left her purse there at the entrance to Griffith Park while he dumped the body. He later refused to let Jean's mom see their child (her granddaughter) and after serving time for refusing to let her see the girl, he just took her and ran off.

That said, whoever Kirk was, he certainly sounds like the guy who got Jean pregnant, given the content of the note. And considering Douglas' panicky reaction, I wouldn't be surprised to find out he was the father.

by Anonymousreply 16December 10, 2015 12:00 PM

r15 - What do you think is going on lately? The Scalia thread filled up with racist responses like lightning.

I don't put people on Ignore because I like to take a pulse of what's going on, but I do miss Trolldar.

by Anonymousreply 17December 10, 2015 12:01 PM

No idea, R17. Could be a couple of dedicated trolls.

I use Ignore and find that most of these people post once and then run off, which makes me think it's someone with a VPN and the time to rack up enough "karma" on each IP address so they can post replies.

by Anonymousreply 18December 10, 2015 12:13 PM

[quote]You can't compare him to Polanski. Polanskis' victim gave grand jury testimony

But she later said, that they should drop the whole thing. If the victim doesn't care why should anyone else.

by Anonymousreply 19December 10, 2015 1:05 PM

What did the note say?

by Anonymousreply 20December 10, 2015 1:12 PM

He raped Natalie Wood too. Or was it Natalie Greene?

by Anonymousreply 21December 10, 2015 1:27 PM

If KD actually raped her, she'd be named Natalie Woodnt.

by Anonymousreply 22December 10, 2015 3:45 PM

Kirk will never die! Why he looks as fresh and virile as a 35 year old man! If I wasn't a married woman.....

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by Anonymousreply 23December 10, 2015 3:51 PM

Per google, he's 99 years old, almost 100.

Too old to be held responsible for those godawful dyed eyebrows, I suppose.

by Anonymousreply 24December 10, 2015 3:55 PM

I thought they were trained caterpillars ..

by Anonymousreply 25December 10, 2015 3:57 PM

Only the good die young.

by Anonymousreply 26December 10, 2015 4:25 PM

Have other people backed up Lana's story about Natalie Wood's rape?

by Anonymousreply 27December 10, 2015 11:57 PM

R14 That was quite the bulge there on Mr Douglas in that flimsy loin cloth.

Another 'big' star was comedian Bob Hope who used to always send himself up and mock every we - known actor and politician. Brilliant comedian.

But.....behind the curtain on those "Vietnam tours" to entertain the troops - the reality was he was a total lech with his female stars. He kept that we'll hidden as he was married to his wife for his entire adult life - something like 60 or 70 years of marriage.

by Anonymousreply 28December 11, 2015 12:31 AM

What does a 99 year old cock look like?

by Anonymousreply 29December 11, 2015 1:53 AM

[quote] the reality was he was a total lech with his female stars.

Those girls LIKE it.

You can't rape a whore.

by Anonymousreply 30December 11, 2015 3:29 AM

Bob Hope was an Illuminati member and a whore master as well. He owned a home near his Palm Springs estate where he could entertain the young ladies and quite possibly boys. He used adoption services to have children. I NEVER thought he was funny and his dumb jokes were annoying.

by Anonymousreply 31December 11, 2015 3:50 AM

[quote] I NEVER thought he was funny and his dumb jokes were annoying.

You're entitled to your opinion but you're in a small minority.

by Anonymousreply 32December 11, 2015 4:46 AM

Don't think much of his sugar daddy

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by Anonymousreply 33December 11, 2015 10:19 PM

Didn't Eric Douglas (RIP), Kirk's less-successful son, say he believed his dad raped Natalie Wood?

by Anonymousreply 34December 11, 2015 10:48 PM

R34 I don't remember hearing anything. If Douglas did rape Wood, he likely had to pay some people to keep quiet.

by Anonymousreply 35December 11, 2015 11:29 PM

Wood's mother and her friends including Dennis Hopper knew about the rape right after it happened and a number of them are still living and told Suzanne Finstad (who wrote an extensive biography on Wood) who it was.

by Anonymousreply 36December 12, 2015 12:10 AM

Hopefully OP.

R36 does Christopher Walken know about the rape or did he also rape Natalie Wood or help murder her?

by Anonymousreply 37December 12, 2018 6:21 PM
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