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Don't date bisexuals - seriously

Just don't. In fact, don't date anyone who isn't 100% gay.

by Anonymousreply 163October 21, 2021 7:22 PM

Oh. Okay.

by Anonymousreply 1August 13, 2015 5:04 PM

If you want a boyfriend who is monogamous, trustworthy, stable, sane, responsible, and doesn't take shit from bitches, don't date a bisexual. Date a gay man.

by Anonymousreply 2August 13, 2015 5:05 PM

Yep. Bisexuals are messed up people. Duplicituous, manipulative, disingenuous. Mindfuckers. And those are their GOOD points.

by Anonymousreply 3August 13, 2015 5:07 PM

Bis are mentally ill. Never trust one. They play games, they play people off against one another, they like to make people feel insecure and grateful for their presence in a relationship.

by Anonymousreply 4August 13, 2015 5:09 PM

Whatever. Maybe you are the undatable ones.

by Anonymousreply 5August 13, 2015 5:09 PM

Gay men are drama queens.

They're good for a fuck, but then...Run!

by Anonymousreply 6August 13, 2015 5:18 PM

OP...duh. I've never met a bisexual man or woman who wasn't mentally ill.

by Anonymousreply 7August 13, 2015 5:27 PM

I don't believe in bisexuals.

by Anonymousreply 8August 13, 2015 5:27 PM

I only date agnostic environmentally respectful 100% gay cis-males of colour who worked their way through state colleges and grad school and maintain warm loving relationships with their more traditional families.

by Anonymousreply 9August 13, 2015 5:33 PM

And to top it off, they're lousy, selfish lovers in bed.

by Anonymousreply 10August 13, 2015 5:34 PM

Confess. Which one of you made up this story involving the female prostitute stealing your man?

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by Anonymousreply 11August 13, 2015 5:36 PM

If, by chance, you are foolish enough to attempt a relationship with one, do not try to "just be friends" because it usually will end with you getting robbed or battered.

by Anonymousreply 12August 13, 2015 5:36 PM

That's why I always go for a straight guy. I don't like feminine guys period.

by Anonymousreply 13August 13, 2015 5:43 PM

[quote]That's why I always go for a straight guy. I don't like feminine guys period.

Feminine guys don't have to get drunk before they'll let you fuck them.

by Anonymousreply 14August 13, 2015 5:50 PM

So gay men are always monogamous, trustworthy, stable and sane? lol

by Anonymousreply 15August 13, 2015 6:03 PM

Feminine guys don't have to get drunk before they'll let you fuck them.

Straight guys do play around. A hole is a hole as they always say.

by Anonymousreply 16August 13, 2015 6:04 PM

R15 I know right, what a crock of shit.

R16 yeah sure!!!!

I'm bi and I'm not a shitty person like you think I am

by Anonymousreply 17August 13, 2015 6:06 PM

[quote] So gay men are always monogamous, trustworthy, stable and sane? lol

Moreso than bisexuals.

by Anonymousreply 18August 13, 2015 6:09 PM

Ah DataLounge, the only site where the whole rainbow gets the hatred they deserve.

by Anonymousreply 19August 13, 2015 6:10 PM

Drop the B.

by Anonymousreply 20August 13, 2015 6:12 PM

Bisexuals: would you rather date a gay or another bisexual, all else being equal?

by Anonymousreply 21August 13, 2015 6:14 PM

Ok I never knew a bi man or woman, but I don't believe they have to be less monogamous just because they like both genders. A gay or straight man can have a monogamous relationship and cheat, like them.

by Anonymousreply 22August 13, 2015 6:17 PM

R19, lol, just what I was thinking.

If you '100% gay' dudes posting in this thread are trying to come off as sane, stable and trustworthy you are failing horribly.

by Anonymousreply 23August 13, 2015 6:18 PM

[quote] Ok I never knew a bi man or woman, but I don't believe they have to be less monogamous just because they like both genders. A gay or straight man can have a monogamous relationship and cheat, like them.

It's still wrong.

by Anonymousreply 24August 13, 2015 6:19 PM

You could argue, R24, that bisexuals are more likely to cheat in the long term because a male partner can't possibly provide them with a pussy. It's possible that a gay relationship will leave your partner unfulfilled, but if what they're attracted to is something you will never have, it's inevitable.

by Anonymousreply 25August 13, 2015 6:22 PM

R23, how can you spare the time to post on a gay board? Don't you need to pick up your wife for date night at the Olive Garden?

by Anonymousreply 26August 13, 2015 6:24 PM

Bi women love sex and affection from women, but derive social validation and often money from relationships with men. Better avoided.

by Anonymousreply 27August 13, 2015 6:37 PM

R27 is correct. Bi women select men to marry and to be daddy to their kids and so they have het family snaps to put on their desks. When they are annoyed with him, they flirt with women in front of his face, to try and make him insecure that she likes pussy and tits better than what he's got to offer. They are manipulators.

by Anonymousreply 28August 13, 2015 6:40 PM

Gay men and bi men have somewhat different issues but, in the end, neither are reliably faithful.

Guys who are OK with an open relationship, though, should be happy with either. Actually, if all you want is a NSA situation, I'd rate bi guys a little better on this.

by Anonymousreply 29August 13, 2015 6:55 PM

I don't know what to think about male bisexuals. On one hand they say they are attracted to both sexes, and I think they do believe they are attracted to both. However, there is no real scientific proof they really exist. I always have this impression of them as being unstable.

by Anonymousreply 30August 13, 2015 7:38 PM

not even vaguely interested

by Anonymousreply 31August 13, 2015 7:47 PM

[quote]However, there is no real scientific proof they really exist.

Child, step out of the gayborhood and get yourself back in school. Even community college, something.

by Anonymousreply 32August 13, 2015 8:04 PM

90% of self-described "bisexuals" are merely closeted gay men, too spineless to come out and admit they're gay. Especially the young ones.

The remaining 10% are indeed bi, but only looking for sex with other men, especially on the down low. The relationship shit is saved for the ladies so as to project the air of respectability.

I've met one "bi" guy in my life. He was married and had a kid at the time we met. A couple of years later, I ran into him on the street. He was a drag performer with his current live-in boyfriend. The wife and kid were dumped. All too typical.

by Anonymousreply 33August 13, 2015 8:13 PM

I think bi guys just value straight relationships and sex with a chick so much more that gay sex or relationships.

by Anonymousreply 34August 13, 2015 8:20 PM

Whatever a bi guy says to you, stare at him with fish eyes and walk away. You will end up hating him soon enough anyway, so cut him off at the pass.

by Anonymousreply 35August 14, 2015 4:12 AM

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by Anonymousreply 36August 14, 2015 4:26 AM

R34 in this homophobic ass world we live in where being straight is considered ideal, you don't say? That's truly shocking!!!

by Anonymousreply 37August 15, 2015 10:47 AM

Take it from this fool - run for the hills! For the last decade it's been nothing but straight and bi men with me - it's like, ok, it's hard and it's in your mouth - but you're straight? Admittedly, these men smolder. My off and on "partner" of the last decade just married a woman for the second time. Broke my heart. He always comes crawling back. But I won't let it happen again. I get the drunk induced late night emails from him - and it's hard not to respond. He dallied in that old stand-by - meth - which loosens all their inhibitions. I was his homoerotic outlet. We were addicted to one another. "Straight" is a label they give themselves that has power. Or at least it did over me. And I always get a kick out of the studly ex-marine regular who struts down the street and then morphs into Joan Collins in the sack.

Yes, I've grown some balls. And yes, I'm in therapy.

My mother always said, "You can't help who you fall in love with."

by Anonymousreply 38August 15, 2015 12:28 PM

This thread makes me think I'm reading The Onion. At first I thought most of the poster are being facetious, but then I realized they are being serious. Labeling bisexuals as untrustworthy and mentally ill is just as ridiculous as when straights categorize gays as being duplicitous and mentally ill. I guess fighting for decades change the stereotypes, the bigotry against gays has taught these posters nothing.

by Anonymousreply 39August 15, 2015 12:54 PM

R38 is an idiot of the highest order.

Does anyone out there have a Darwin award to present to R38.

by Anonymousreply 40August 15, 2015 1:00 PM

R39, you are a bisexual, aren't you? I have posted a few times and am going from a LIFETIME of personal experiences. And, yes, I am generalizing like crazy. Bisexuals ARE mentally ill. Sociopaths. Toxic. Duplicitous. Disngenuous. Liers. Manipulative. In varying degrees, of course. Some are worse than others. By a hair.

But lumping them all together as people to stay away from? Yep. Not the same for gays, though. You really can't make those generalizations for gay people. We are all over the map. Bisexuals all are damaged goods. They will hurt you emotionally. They will use you and lose you. RUN RUN RUN!

by Anonymousreply 41August 15, 2015 2:49 PM

[quote]You could argue, [R24], that bisexuals are more likely to cheat in the long term because a male partner can't possibly provide them with a pussy. It's possible that a gay relationship will leave your partner unfulfilled, but if what they're attracted to is something you will never have, it's inevitable.

That's the way I feel about it as well. I, as a man, simply cannot satiate a bi guy's desire for women, so what's the point? Also, as others have mentioned, bi guys place their romantic/sexual relationships with women on a pedestal compared to their interactions with men, the whole women=love/men=sex thing. We can hide behind the pc bullshit or we can be honest about it, this is how the vast majority of bi men view gay men. So what is so wrong with us, as gay men, accepting this fact and viewing them the same way: bi men=hookup/gay men=relationship?

by Anonymousreply 42August 15, 2015 3:18 PM

Marlon Brando, James Dean tho..

And even Monty -- funder of multiple abortions -- Clift

Basically the whole foundations and architecture of aesthetics of your desire.

You’re welcome

by Anonymousreply 43August 15, 2015 3:31 PM

*of the aesthetics of your desire

by Anonymousreply 44August 15, 2015 3:33 PM

most gay porn stars are bisexuals, so.... suck on it

by Anonymousreply 45August 15, 2015 4:37 PM

We're not talking about porn, just dating.

by Anonymousreply 46August 15, 2015 5:31 PM

Millions of years evolution has programmed our species so that alpha male characteristics are quintessentially what is attractive about a male. Thus if we did a venn diagram it would show, notwithstanding a small degree of overlap, that straight men, and then a far larger proportion of bisexuals than gay men would meet that criteria inculcated by Nature and fostered by society, This explains the G4P phenomenon and much else besides.

by Anonymousreply 47August 15, 2015 5:33 PM

Do you biphobes see what you've done? Now you've gone and drawn out the Gays Are Freaks of Nature Troll.

by Anonymousreply 48August 15, 2015 6:12 PM

R48, Why not take issue with what I ACTUALLY wrote instead of putting words in my mouth; words I don’t believe. FWIW I identify as a gay man ( albeit with bi tendencies) and wouldn’t want to change my sexuality or any one else’s. But I’m also a student of evolutionary psychology and not afraid of scientific evidence (as it currently stands)

by Anonymousreply 49August 15, 2015 6:40 PM

R42, the other reason being children, of course. My bi friend seems to be staying with his wife mainly because they have kids and he likes having a family. In other respects I think he'd be happier with men.

R49, evolutionary psychology is scientifically tendentious, to put it mildly.

by Anonymousreply 50August 15, 2015 8:00 PM

That maybe true of certain strands in evolutionary psychology, R50, but you can’t just write off a whole discipline and retain any shred of credibility. And especially not those peer reviewed lab based studies utilising and neuroscience and brain imaging.

by Anonymousreply 51August 15, 2015 8:47 PM

R47 [quote]Millions of years evolution has programmed our species so that alpha male characteristics are quintessentially what is attractive about a male.[/quote]

LMAOOOOO yeah sure buddy

by Anonymousreply 52August 16, 2015 11:18 AM

Also, don't fall in love with a dreamer.

by Anonymousreply 53August 16, 2015 6:11 PM

“The Imagination is Bisexual… One you’re out of Nature”, to use Yeats’s phrase, you see all people as beautiful and you make a bond to people of your own sex as easily as to people of the opposite sex” _Anne Rice

by Anonymousreply 54August 17, 2015 4:06 AM

R13 Hetero guys don't pay attention to guys like you. They are turned on by women, that's why they're called heterosexual.

by Anonymousreply 55August 17, 2015 4:28 AM

One of you paying posters should post this

1 in 2 young Brits say they are not exclusively heterosexual ... 1/4 of all Brits total say the same thing.

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by Anonymousreply 56August 18, 2015 6:37 PM

bump

by Anonymousreply 57August 30, 2015 10:31 PM

Drop the B!

by Anonymousreply 58August 30, 2015 10:53 PM

Never understood why there is so much hate aimed at bisexuals. Then again I have never dated one.

by Anonymousreply 59August 30, 2015 11:11 PM

What is your worst experience with a bisexual man?

by Anonymousreply 60August 30, 2015 11:31 PM

Don't date someone who isn't white

by Anonymousreply 61August 30, 2015 11:34 PM

False equivalence is false, R61.

by Anonymousreply 62August 30, 2015 11:47 PM

What is the difference? Discrimination based on stereotypes works in many directions.

by Anonymousreply 63August 30, 2015 11:49 PM

Just an anecdote from three decades ago. I worked with a guy that was married to a woman. They didn't have children. A lot of us thought he was Bi. A couple of years later he came out as a Gay man. Yes, he divorced his wife, but I don't think he lied to his wife about his past attraction to men.

He met and partnered with a great guy. His wife survived well and remained friends for a long time, maybe still.

My point is that Bi to Gay can be a process. This story turned out well because they were mature individuals that had everyone's best interests at heart.

But don't hang your hope on changing anyone.

by Anonymousreply 64August 30, 2015 11:59 PM

R64 No that guy was never bi he was gay. Real bisexuals do exist.

by Anonymousreply 65August 31, 2015 12:27 PM

I agree, r65. I should have been more clear. Obviously, my friend was Gay all along. For him, and maybe many others, this was the process he followed to finally accept himself and be a Gay man.

As I said, don't count on changing anyone.

by Anonymousreply 66August 31, 2015 1:25 PM

I only date dudes that are bisexual

by Anonymousreply 67August 31, 2015 1:46 PM

This thread is vituperative, vitriolic, wildly generalizing... and yet there's some truth to it.

The Bi men I know are messed up individuals, and I don't think they will ever be happy. I would not date one. They are damaged goods.

by Anonymousreply 68August 31, 2015 1:54 PM

R68 How are they messed up. Tell us about one of them.

by Anonymousreply 69August 31, 2015 7:05 PM

I prefer bisexuals too, because they tend to be more masculine and act like normal dudes.

by Anonymousreply 70August 31, 2015 7:42 PM

You won't find many bi guys calling males female pronouns or annoying things like "girl." It's all about masculinity.

by Anonymousreply 71August 31, 2015 7:42 PM

R67, I find that fascinating. Could you specify where on the Kinsey scale your IDEAL bisexual would fall?

Also, do aspects such as heteroromantic/ homoromantic factor into the equation at all?

Finally, what is the absolute minimum degree or strength of bisexuality that is capable of supporting this attraction, in terms of numbers and taking into account the Kinsey scale from end to end e.g. mostly straight, mostly gay?

by Anonymousreply 72August 31, 2015 8:38 PM

From my observations, there are two types of bisexuals: those who fall in love with the person and not the gender and who can be faithful to one person and bisexuals who need both men and women at the same time.

I know a bisexual woman who has been with her female partner for 25 years and she told me she's never had the desire to be with a man. Prior to her relationship to this woman, she was married to a man for 11 years and was faithful to him.

I also know a bisexual woman who was with her boyfriend for a few years, then left him for a woman, was with her for a few years, left her for a man and now she's engaged to a man but she's having an affair with a woman at her workplace. Her fiancé doesn't know about it. So she obviously is one of those bisexuals you're all talking about who can't be completely satisfied with a man or a woman.

by Anonymousreply 73August 31, 2015 10:23 PM

I love bi guys because the tend to be way more masculine. However, I did find a diamond in the rough gay man who tall, muscly, and very masculine. We've been together for quite a while now.

Real gay men want a MAN, not someone who acts like their grandmother.

by Anonymousreply 74August 31, 2015 10:36 PM

R74 I second that

by Anonymousreply 75August 31, 2015 10:46 PM

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by Anonymousreply 76September 1, 2015 10:52 AM

A gay man’s overwhelming interest in his erotic target’s heterosexual potential (and here we need to recognise that “bisexual” substitutes for, and is the only practicable proxy for, the ideal i.e. a straight man) is among one of the chief diagnostic indicators of MtF HSTS (homosexual transexual) transgenderism, however latent or overtly expressed. To recap: you are at the EXTREME end of the effeminate homosexuality scale, at the very least

by Anonymousreply 77September 1, 2015 11:42 AM

So many gay men sacrifice traditional masculinity After identity As gay. That is very unattractive to me. Bisexual men are much more likely to be traditionally masculine.

by Anonymousreply 78September 1, 2015 12:15 PM

But are bi men wired-up to be more traditionally masculine, or is that a necessary strategy (conscious or not) to compete with het men for women.? And are mass gay men more “guilty” of faking their masculinity, if indeed they are. Discuss!

by Anonymousreply 79September 1, 2015 12:23 PM

I think Bisexual men usually are socialized differently. A lot of gay-identified men are socialized so differently than other men, with a tendency to be segregated from the vast majority of their male peers. Until recently, gay boys and young men had an unusual number of female friends, which I think affects their masculine formation.

by Anonymousreply 80September 1, 2015 12:35 PM

I have a weird interest. I am a trophy hunter of cognitive dissonance in all it’s forms and my hunting ground is the user profiles of porn sites — the watering hole cognitive dissonance

To wit: This is the kind of shit that gives bi or “bi”? men a bad name.

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If your in the Swansea/Cardiff areas then drop me a line.

I have been on this site for a bit now and have eclectic tastes. So what do I like and enjoy? Lets give it a go and tell you.

Primarily I am seeking ladies for fun, although some might say I am bisexual, but in reality I do not find men a turn on, although I do enjoy the look at up close and personal feel of a cock. Confused? well, let me explain:

Women: I adore women in their entirety, from head to toe (and yes that does hint on me having a bit of a thing for feet), I am passive in many ways as I adore women whom know what they want, I guess that I am sub really. My favorite is to give prolonged oral and to receive the following - ws, strap on, face sitting, humiliation, mild CBT. I would love to be a slave and obey.

Men: I like to give oral and receive anal (protected only)

Couples MF: To serve you both, watch, lick and suck when told and also clean you both up afterwards with my Mouth and tongue.

Ben me over, your husband fucks me as you watch or I suck on your pussy.

TS/TV/CD: As said I do not find men attractive, although I do enjoy cock, so this is a great mid way for me, I do enjoy being fucked by a dressed TS/TV/CD.

Basically I am open to ideas, will try most things once as long as not too painful and not illegal!

I love to watch and also film others (with my cam or theirs) for their pleasure, with pics/video staying with the people I am with, unless they allow me a copy.

I respect all limits and am not pushy, maybe you might like to try MMF and a passive male would be an gentle toe dip into the experience.

So, if you fancy a chat, drop me a mail and a friend invite.

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I love porn, all types of porn (as long as legal), from young ladies to mature ladies 60+, thin ladies, BBW and all in between.

Sex and fun is about enjoyment and not about love, its not about a set type, its about opening your mind and enjoying. I do like to be dominated by ladies, made to give oral, receive face sitting, basically being a slave....use and abuse me! Wanking sessions with other guys are always fun, so is meeting up for me to give a guy a BJ.

If you would like to know more then just ask!

And here is some more info: So about myself: I am mid forties, considered a bear (broad but with a few additional pounds (well be to be honest)), I'm more sub and love to be cuck to MF couples, where I orally serve (and yes both to the lady and the man (if required)), I do not find men attractive, but love to give oral to a man (can play straight also) and will also receive anal (protected only) from both a woman with a strap on and also a man (I do not give). If a MF couple like to dress up then I am more than happy with a TV as part of the fun. I adore to orally clean up both the female and the man also if required.

With a female only then I am totally sub, to please my mistress orally, to worship and her toes, to kiss, lick and be their muse. High heels against my cock and balls, squeeze my balls very hard and pull them, forced bi, rec water sports, rec face sitting, use me for your pleasure.

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by Anonymousreply 81September 1, 2015 1:58 PM

R79 I agree Bisexual men are probably more masculine because they have to compete with straight guys for women and most women don't like feminine men. R80 I Agree with this too. I think if you grew up with lots of female friends or were closer to your mom than your dad, then this can effect you growing up and lead to you being more feminine than masculine. I think this can also lead to a complete rejection even hatred of anything masculine as many guys here on datalounge seem to hate anything masculine. I would guess when these men were growing up they probably had more female friends as well as possibly having a better relationship with their mother or other female family members compared to their relationships with their fathers or other male family members.

by Anonymousreply 82September 1, 2015 3:33 PM

I like my dude to have "babies' mamas"

by Anonymousreply 83September 1, 2015 5:47 PM

R82, gay men want their dudes to be masculine. In personals, it is the most sought trait in perspective mates

by Anonymousreply 84September 1, 2015 5:48 PM

Prospective mates

by Anonymousreply 85September 1, 2015 6:07 PM

bi guys are hot

by Anonymousreply 86September 1, 2015 9:28 PM

tyh

by Anonymousreply 87September 2, 2015 10:48 AM

Bashing fem gays fuels the trans"gender" lie.

by Anonymousreply 88September 2, 2015 10:57 AM

Effeminates NEED to be eliminated by being transitioned and then dropped as the T

by Anonymousreply 89September 2, 2015 1:06 PM

I'm not 100 percent gay myself. I like bisexual men More.

by Anonymousreply 90September 2, 2015 1:10 PM

The amount of time spent questioning bisexuality and what makes someone bisexual and if that's somehow inferior or superior on here is just mind-boggling.

Stop trying to label everyone and fit them into a box. People are who they are and just take them for that.

by Anonymousreply 91September 2, 2015 1:28 PM

[quote]Stop trying to label everyone and fit them into a box. People are who they are and just take them for that.

I respectfully disagree. Bisexuality is not a 'box', it is a spectrum between the polar ends of heterosexuality/homosexuality.

I can be friends with a bi guy but it doesn't turn me on sexually. My dick knows there's a part of them that I could never satisfy so it just shuts down. No big whoop. There are many gay men (as evidenced by this thread) who have the opposite reaction and are turned on by bisexuality.

by Anonymousreply 92September 2, 2015 6:40 PM

i love bi guys

by Anonymousreply 93September 2, 2015 10:49 PM

Me gustan Bisexuales

by Anonymousreply 94September 3, 2015 4:16 AM

Lol the main complaint about bi guys is always that they won't be your monogamous mate for life, as if the vast majority of y'all are looking for that anyway.

by Anonymousreply 95September 3, 2015 1:55 PM

Amen r95

by Anonymousreply 96September 3, 2015 2:24 PM

Bi guys are fucked up, I like fucked up

by Anonymousreply 97September 3, 2015 9:58 PM

Gay man here. If I find out a guy is bi, it kills any attraction I have to them, no matter how hot they are. Porn stars included. It's like they de-sexualise right in front of me.

Oh, and I agree with the OP. Just don't. Unless you're also bi. Knock yourself out.

by Anonymousreply 98September 3, 2015 10:25 PM

Serious question, R98 : is it because bi men they make you insecure in your masculinity? Out of interest are you on the effeminate end of the spectrum and growing up did you feel excluded from the “rough boys” and “prefer” to hang around with the girls? I can see how psychologically you might feel an overpowering need to transform that pain and negativity into seemingly positive “choice” to exclude those “bad boys” from your life.

by Anonymousreply 99September 3, 2015 11:25 PM

*they're

by Anonymousreply 100September 3, 2015 11:26 PM

[quote]Out of interest are you on the effeminate end of the spectrum and growing up did you feel excluded from the “rough boys” and “prefer” to hang around with the girls?

So all bisexual men are "rough boys" and "bad boys" in your mind r99? lol.

by Anonymousreply 101September 4, 2015 1:34 AM

R98 seems effeminate and prissy

by Anonymousreply 102September 4, 2015 1:38 AM

Honestly I assumed that the guys going on about the masculinity of bi men and how they prefer bi men for that reason were effeminate. I just didn't want to say it. The idea that bi men are automatically "masculine" is another DLism ( kind of like the every guy I find attractive is gay and has a big dick thing) uttered by people who have very little contact with the real world. I think the folks going on about the masculinity of bi men see them as such simply because they sleep with women so there's a self-loathing component here. I also think that people tend to place greater emphasis on the things they don't have and don't have any personal experience with like masculinity. When you lack something that you perceive as desirable you tend to place greater emphasis on it, kind of like the grass is greener.... For authentically masculine guys masculinity is not something to be obsessed with or think about too much.

by Anonymousreply 103September 4, 2015 2:08 AM

[quote] For authentically masculine guys masculinity is not something to be obsessed with or think about too much

Typical bullshit rationalisation of an effeminate with an inferiority complex. By your reasoning not even the Spartans or Vikings let alone your typical high school jocks would qualify. Men throughout history have been concerned about their own -- and scrupulously policed other men’s -- masculinity; we wouldn’t have survived let alone prospered as a species had they not. Its evolutionary forces, “sweetie.” No doubt you imagine your male ancestors hunted tofu and or stayed behind in the cave with the women threading flowers through their hair. No

by Anonymousreply 104September 4, 2015 2:48 AM

I wish your posts was coherent r104. I never said a thing about myself or whether or not I'm effeminate or masculine but it is clear that you are effeminate and struggling with it. Your defensiveness and the fact that you use effeminate as insult are indicative of that. We usually use insults that we believe hurt the most and it is because they hurt us the most when they were used against us. You see your effeminacy as inferior and you are very insecure about it and that is why you use it as an insult. And if you want to talk "evolutionary forces" you should know that from an evolutionary perspective it was women who placed great emphasis on male masculinity or male dominance (perhaps you've heard of sexual selection?) as dominant alpha males could better protect them and provide for them and their offspring you know since hypermasculinity is typically a trait that women lack themselves. See where this is going? My point still holds, people overemphasize what they don't have . You can protest all you like but it is obvious what's going here. Cheer up and learn to accept yourself, you'll be much happier when you do. Have a good one.

by Anonymousreply 105September 4, 2015 3:50 AM

I fell in love with a bisexual guy, he ended up leaving me for another woman, after 2 years! I nearly had a nervous breakdown...well, actually I did.

by Anonymousreply 106September 4, 2015 4:21 AM

R105 I agree, these homophobic anti-fem tirades in this thread are so fucking transparent and sad. Learn to love yourselves you queers, we're all gay whether you're fem or masc. Stop trying to live based on the heterosexual system, it will only lead to chaos and bullshit (which is exactly how it already is unfortunately)

by Anonymousreply 107September 4, 2015 4:31 AM

You might be "queer," r107, but I am not. Speak for yourself, dude.

by Anonymousreply 108September 4, 2015 4:48 AM

Generalizations are beyond stupid but this is one time where I have to agree. Gay men LOVE drama.....but the selfish, one-sided mentally unstable drama of a bi-sexual man is just not worth it.

by Anonymousreply 109September 4, 2015 4:56 AM

R108 how are you not queer exactly?

by Anonymousreply 110September 4, 2015 5:55 AM

R109 so generalizations are stupid but you generalize all bi men

by Anonymousreply 111September 4, 2015 12:45 PM

R110, many bisexual and gay people reject the term "Queer" for themselves in particular, as well as for LGB people in general. As we were talk in our civil rights training, the term is widely offensive to bisexual and gay folks, and therefore, should be avoided when talking generally about large groups of LGB people.

by Anonymousreply 112September 4, 2015 3:02 PM

r42 is the voice of reason. Hookup with bi guys, date gay ones.

by Anonymousreply 113September 4, 2015 3:18 PM

R42, as gay men I don't think there is anything wrong with us regarding bi-sexuals, however as I heard recently about straight hoo-ups, most women even have a slight hope that the drunken hook-up will turn into a relationship. Speaking strictly from my own experience, I have to admit that during more than a few of those booth store hook-ups of a few years back, I did wish maybe they would become something more.......not necessarily a "relationship", per se, but something more.

Bi men annihilate that entire foolish, but still human, fantasy.

by Anonymousreply 114September 4, 2015 7:43 PM

This thread is so ridiculous. If a Liberace-esque gay man gets drunk and has sex with a woman, he's a gay guy who got drunk and had sex with a woman. (Per DL)

If a more masculine gay guy dated and fucked women before coming to terms with his homosexuality, he is bi (per DL)

I rarely meet men IRL who are as over the top femmy as many of the posters on here.

by Anonymousreply 115September 4, 2015 7:52 PM

Yeah, the gay dudes on here seem disproportionately effeminate and stereotypical. The real world has more masculine mainstream gay guys.

by Anonymousreply 116September 4, 2015 8:51 PM

Chill on the effem1nate shit already or u will get the word banned again. You don't know wtf u are talking about anyway.

by Anonymousreply 117September 4, 2015 10:57 PM

Oh my god. R99, your posts are freaking hysterical. You couldn't make it up.

Not to step on the toes of your cutting-edge Psych 101 analysis, but I find most bisexual men to be cowards. They're so hung up on the masculine/feminine thing, and yet painfully sensitive about someone labelling them gay. They benefit from all the social advancements that have been made on their behalf but run for the hills when it comes to showing their faces on the battlefront. And I just find that really un-sexy. Hot body or not, they usually have spongey personalities. I don't like that in my men. Or my porn.

And by the way, drag queens are the bravest men I know. And effeminate men. They have genuine courage. They are themselves in the face of a world peopled by the likes of you. This romanticising of history's "real men" is hysterical. Talk about a triumph of advertising. You need to hit the history books, pal.

You may think of yourself as being pure testosterone. You may be. I don't know. I might be the wispiest thing in the universe. You don't know. You'd better hope so, because if I'm not, that would sure shoot a hole in your theory, wouldn't it?

It's easy to throw stones when the crowd's behind you. In other words, you're a coward and a big baby. I'm not sure if you're a bisexual coward or a cowardly bisexual. One of those.

I'm not sure if I'm prissy or not, R102. Probably not as much as I'd like to be. Who cares? Although l HAVE had "Kim's Charleston" from the hit Broadway musical ShowBoat running around in my head all day. Maybe you have a point.

by Anonymousreply 118September 5, 2015 12:10 PM

Yep, you're prissy, dude

by Anonymousreply 119September 5, 2015 3:09 PM

bi guys can fuck me anytime

by Anonymousreply 120September 5, 2015 11:29 PM

What's wrong with being prissy though? By the way I am not R118 but I just find the "fem bashing" on DL to be annoying as fuck. Some of you are basically no better than HS bullies and homophobes. Grow up already!!!

Being feminine is not bad, it's just society trying to drill the bullshit into our heads since the beginning of time. Men don't have to act or behave a certain way, same goes for women. Please emancipate yourselves from hetero-normative mental slavery, we're all gay, we're all in the same boat, you're not better than people.

by Anonymousreply 121September 6, 2015 6:06 AM

Effeminacy is found in men of all sexual orientations. In no way it is a "homosexual thing".

But, it would be a good idea to understand why some gay guys develop a very feminine personality and, it has a lot todo with the society we are born in.

For some gay guys it is almost impossible to identify with masculinity. Just think about it for a moment. How could some gay guys admire masculinity when the kind of masculinity promoted by our heterosexist societies is all about degrading and oppressing homosexual people? We grow up hearing how much society hates us all and it is generally through desplay of "masculinity" that homosexual people are told how vile we are.

Would you admire your teacher who is always telling you how unqualified you are for his/her class, always making you feel stupid? Certainly, you would not see anything admirable in such teacher so you would reject every aspect of his/her personality.

That's what happens with some gay guys who have feminine personalities. Masculinity is used to degrade and vilify homosexual people, you grow up feeling rejected by it and even a bit afraid of it. So who's left as role models? We all need role models to grow up and women, in this case are much better role models than the average heterosexual male.

by Anonymousreply 122September 6, 2015 6:32 AM

R122 interesting and logical perspective!

by Anonymousreply 123September 6, 2015 9:43 PM

r116 because fewer masculine men are going to want to comment on a gossip website, obviously

by Anonymousreply 124September 6, 2015 10:26 PM

Bisexuals are not capable of love or of commitment. Have sex with them if you wish, but don't believe for one minute you are anything but a dumping ground for his jizz.

by Anonymousreply 125September 6, 2015 10:45 PM

R125 I don't get you gays who have a problem with bisexual guys. It sucks that guys who have struggled with their sexuality and probably been treated negatively by some people because have an issue with guys who have been through the same.

by Anonymousreply 126September 12, 2015 12:08 AM

Are you bi r126?

by Anonymousreply 127September 12, 2015 12:15 AM

R126, if you don't get it, maybe you should actually read the thread and the other threads on this topic. It's explained over and over.

by Anonymousreply 128September 12, 2015 12:46 AM

shrieee eeeeeeee eeeeeee eeeeeeee eeeeeeee eeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeek

by Anonymousreply 129September 12, 2015 1:30 AM

[quote]Gay man here. If I find out a guy is bi, it kills any attraction I have to them, no matter how hot they are. Porn stars included. It's like they de-sexualise right in front of me.

I thought I was the only one who experienced this. I think knowing that a man can't fully satisfy them shuts down any sexual attraction for me.

by Anonymousreply 130September 12, 2015 11:15 AM

omg......such threatened prisspots!

by Anonymousreply 131September 12, 2015 8:22 PM

It is true that most true bisexuals will 90% of the time will "settle down" with someone of the opposite sex because it's an easier life. It's best to let bis mess around with other bis because falling in love with one will only end in tears eventually. You know it's the truth.

by Anonymousreply 132September 12, 2015 8:25 PM

Think of the worst straight or gay man you've ever dated. Multiply by 100 all the bad things you experienced with him and you will have your average bisexual.

by Anonymousreply 133September 12, 2015 8:32 PM

R133 What are all these bad experiences. Give details otherwise you are just shit talking.

by Anonymousreply 134September 13, 2015 2:16 AM

R127 yes I am

by Anonymousreply 135September 13, 2015 2:18 AM

If you want your time wasted, your heart ripped out of your chest and your soul destroyed, a bisexual is for you. They are sociopaths who care about nobody's feelings except their own.

by Anonymousreply 136September 13, 2015 2:31 AM

R136 soul destroyed a bit over dramatic

by Anonymousreply 137September 13, 2015 10:53 PM

R136, you weren't good enough to snag him. Sorry.

by Anonymousreply 138September 13, 2015 10:56 PM

R138 This the reason the gays are so bitter. They aren't good enough to keep him.

by Anonymousreply 139September 13, 2015 11:22 PM

bump

by Anonymousreply 140September 14, 2015 7:11 PM

Neither historic Spartans or Viking has anything to do with the "masculinity" of the American bro. This is entirely an invention of the past fifty years.

by Anonymousreply 141September 14, 2015 7:53 PM

bump

by Anonymousreply 142September 15, 2015 7:43 PM

The American Bro is hot

by Anonymousreply 143September 15, 2015 8:23 PM

Bisexual men are so fucked up yet no one has any stories about how fucked up they are.

by Anonymousreply 144September 15, 2015 8:42 PM

R144 Exactly

by Anonymousreply 145September 15, 2015 9:25 PM

bump

by Anonymousreply 146September 16, 2015 12:27 PM

[quote]Bisexual men are so fucked up yet no one has any stories about how fucked up they are.

My bi ex was a basket case. He was 39 and was in a car accident at 25 which left him in a coma. He had recovered a lot of his brain but still had severe short term memory problems and kept losing stuff. He also had continence issues. He basically had the intelligence of a 12-year-old boy. Because of this, he still lived with his mother, a controlling woman who filled him fill of prescription pills that sucked the life out of him. And most of his other friends were sleazy; one of them ended up in jail during the time we were together, and I wasn't a bit surprised.

If both Liza Minnelli and Lisa Whelchel can get gay men to marry them, why oh why can't I?

by Anonymousreply 147September 16, 2015 12:46 PM

R147 Doesn't count he had medical issues.

by Anonymousreply 148September 16, 2015 12:56 PM

R148: Did I mention he once threatened to punch me in the face after I helped him and his mother move? Or that I bought him a vaporizer to help him quit smoking, and every time he lost it — which was often — he went right back to tobacco cigarettes? His mother, who spends most of her time sitting on her ass watching MSNBC, gives them to him because she can't deal with him. She spoiled him. She's a selfish woman who only thinks about what's convenient for her.

by Anonymousreply 149September 16, 2015 1:00 PM

R7, project your own issues much? I wouldn't be surprised if you're mentally ill.

by Anonymousreply 150November 30, 2015 9:45 PM

I just don't like sluts in general.

by Anonymousreply 151April 2, 2020 2:26 AM

Most of us will never have another date and just die alone anyway.

by Anonymousreply 152December 8, 2020 6:13 AM

Besides projecting "alpha male characteristics," r47 is a twat to think G4P is due to largely unseeable mannerisms and lifestyles of the men in porn.

At least 33% of straight guys are effeminate pussies. Gay porn performers butch it up for porn — they might drop their voices 2 octaves while the camera is on! They're totally acting.

G4P happens simply because straight and bisexual guys are more plentiful than gays and you have to cross sexualities to get the hottest specimens.

by Anonymousreply 153December 8, 2020 5:48 PM

YOU CAN'T TELL ME THERE WERE NO SISSY SPARTANS OR VAMPY VIKINGS!

by Anonymousreply 154December 8, 2020 6:14 PM

r104 is just a bigot. An absolutist, ignorant, stereotype-gullible bigot.

by Anonymousreply 155December 8, 2020 6:16 PM

I ain't one of them queers!

by Anonymousreply 156December 8, 2020 6:19 PM

OMG another 2015 thread

by Anonymousreply 157December 8, 2020 6:22 PM

r147's story isn't applicable to a single, other bisexual dude.

by Anonymousreply 158December 8, 2020 6:29 PM

Haha! Cunt

by Anonymousreply 159December 8, 2020 6:30 PM

Then to add to the confusion are the pussy lovin gay guys, who should be labeling as bisexual since they truly want to have pussy and dick, despite identifying as gay.

by Anonymousreply 160February 13, 2021 6:41 AM

Those are even worse, R160.

by Anonymousreply 161February 13, 2021 6:45 AM

Most bi-sexual men are sloppy bottoms.

by Anonymousreply 162February 13, 2021 6:47 AM

R162 Yuck. Just what we needed, more bottoms. As if we don't already have more than enough.

by Anonymousreply 163October 21, 2021 7:22 PM
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