Do You Consider The Phrase "Cock Sucker" To Be A Homophobic Slur?

depends. obviously it is in certain contexts.

When dad calls me that while I've got my legs on his shoulders....No. Not a slur.

[quote]depends. obviously it is in certain contexts.

That's what they say about "fag" and, "That's so gay."

I consider it a compliment.

Just depends on who's saying it and the context and intent of it's usage. It's not a good thing from Alec Baldwin. He uses it as a hate term when he's pissed at a dude. He can apologize all he wants but that's what it is with him

Most of the time, no, I can't be bothered. Sometimes, maybe. . . . .

I definitely think it's homophobic when someone dismisses another person with 'go suck a dick'

I was surprised when Jodie Foster said on Inside the Actors Studio that it was her favourite curse word. Since we know she is a lesbian it seemed to be homophobic to gay men.

No because women suck cock too.

Depends on who says it . I tell the hubby all the time he's an amazing cock sucker and he loves it. Smiles and then takes the whole thing down his throat. It's a term of endearment.

I consider it to be a badge of honour.

Yes, because that language is such a personal affront!

Of COURSE it is?!- duh! The poster who pints out that women give head to I'd entirely missing the point.

How language evolves: for two immediate examples, say, curse words in Scandanavian languages entirely about religious symbolism principally tied in with Satan/Hell and Norse symbolism & bodily functions; curse language in France/ French traditionally tied in with blasphemy of Catholicism & bodily functions...

The English language tradition in curse words has always been primarily concerned with bodily functions, besmirching religion, casting shame on female sexuality and sanctity AND impugning supposed ideals of masculinity.

Hence "cocksucker" sits right beside "motherfucker" as some reflection on anyone's "Manhood". So, yeah, by language definition, I'd say at its core, there's rejection or slur upon M2M relations.

How often do you hear a woman ( as opposed to a general crowd or audience) called out this way?

Any words are all about usage, intent, context and just who's saying them. You can call someone gorgeous and it can be an insult in certain situations. Queer also without exception use to be considered an insult for a guy. That term has since been co opted to me pride for many.

Of course not! The brown word, however...

People who find "cocksucker and cunteater" not offensive are usually those who hate us mo's or mo's who hate themselves for being gay. Even using these terms jokingly, is derisive.

Honey, it's just a job description.

[quote]Hence "cocksucker" sits right beside "motherfucker" as some reflection on anyone's "Manhood".

Oh really? Hon, any male who fucks a female with children is a motherfucker. Same with cocksucker. Simply a realistic term for what is.

You know the conservatives are not far off sometimes in their criticism that some folks have just gotten too sensitive.

If a fellow DLer says it, then no. If Mike Huckabee says it, then yes. If Rick Santorum says it, then I'm not sure.

When I say "cunt" I don't mean it in a woman-hating misogynistic way. I'm sure some people who say cocksucker are just using it as a general insult without going into the linguistics of it. If a bunch of straight bros call a little queen a "cocksucker" on the street...then duh yes it is. But otherwise, meh. Depends.

Being called a cocksucker isn't personal; it's two nouns joined together to elicit a prescribed response.

I've got the cocksucker blues.

Yes, I consider it homophobic when Rick Santorum calls me a cocksucker. But then I just call him santorum, and we're even.

As other posters pointed out it depends on the situation and its intention. When your best friend in the world tells it in a light teasing manner it doesn't hurt, but when he says it in a hurtful manner during a heated discussion then it fucking hurts. When a total stranger or your boss scream it in your face it's a very hurtful slur and attack.

I like the way the name "Santorum" sounds like "Sanitarium." Truth in advertising, I suppose?

If someone uses it to refer to me, I recognize it as the God's truth and take pride in the acknowledgement.

I am happy to offer tips to those attempting to wield an insult.

Instead of the common English phrase 'what the fuck are you doing?' Italians say 'che cazzo fai?' - what the dick are you doing?

More than likely the above expression in Italian, like cocksucker in English, were originally meant as homo slurs. They're so ingrained in common usage now that they've lost their original intent.

"Cocksucker" is simply an expletive. It's not homophobic. But if you've very touchy about homophobia, I guess one could interpret it as a slut. But it's not. It's just a dirty word. A good one, too.

Make that "slur", not "slut." Anyway, I'm not offended by "cocksucker."

[quote]No because women suck cock too.

Yeah, but not very well.

I consider it a calling.

This may be the funniest thread title in DL history, Bravo, OP!

[quote]"cocksucker and cunteater"

I have never heard the latter phrase EVER.

Why must lesbians co-opt everything?

If it's a slur, you're doing it wrong OP.

I think tap dancin' negro is a compliment

If you go by population numbers, this world has many times more straight women who suck cock than gay men period. So by that reckoning the term cocksucker is more sexist than homophobic, yes?

R37: except that it's an insult usually hurled at men. That's why some see it as homophobic: putting down a man for doing something associated with women. It's code for fag

I see we have some Rocket Scientists here.

You Suck Cock On Hollywood Boulevard!!!

Scientists - not Scientologists!

LMFAO, R41!

R34 - "Carpet muncher" or "rug muncher" would be the lezzie equivalent, no?

Ladies, you'd better keep your nether regions shaved, if you don't want your partner to be a "carpet muncher!"

[quote]Honey, it's just a job description.

For some of us it's a passion.

Suck my cock !! that's insulting.

Yes.

It is intended as an insult. It means the user sees sucking cock as a BAD thing, which it isn't. It's also culturally equated with weakness and submission, but it's not necessarily.

And it's no more a submission that the men who want their cocks sucked.

R47 nails it

R47 Actually the sucker is the one in control, he can bite it off anytime if he wants to.

Cork soakers!

I use all the classic (dumbass) porno patter and faggot slurs in English I know, when I fuck around with guys who don't speak english, and it really really really really turns them on.

I consider it 100% true

Wrong, r49.

The vast majority of people who say "cocksucker" are not praising the act. They are denigrating it as a negative and shameful thing and they expect everyone else to see it that way.

It is also intended to mean that the subject is underhanded and cowardly — because heterosexuals equate homosexual men with that.

FWIW, when I find something miserable or lame, I often say "it sucks," just like everybody else.

Because straight guys find the thought of sucking dick to be miserable and those who suck dick to be pathetic and weak.

But I don't think that sucking sucks! I'm happy to do it and happy to get it ;)

Let's read what the heterosexuals think it means, shall we?

[quote]General all-purpose all-american insult used to describe anyone except the person who actually sucks your cock.

Pussy licker is a compliment then ?

R2 aren’t you a little old for piggyback rides?

For me it's descriptive!

Oh let’s just all argue and fight amongst ourselves over this for at least 348 posts.

r59 Won't the thread get paywalled long before that?

Depends on the situation - to be called one in public no, but if I'm polishing a knob I like being called a good cock sucker.

It is a slur coming from most people, yes.

Gays ourselves can use it without pejorative connotation and that's okay. But we can also use it as a slur and should have every right to.

Don't let anybody call you a cocksucker unless they're giving you cock.

"Yes I am. Are you too? You have cocksucking lips" Or "you should try it you'd like it. Wanna suck mine? "

None of your business, OP, you muffdiver.

Yes.

“Do You Consider The Phrase "Cock Sucker" To Be A Homophobic Slur?”

Not if he says “Swallow” before “Cock Sucker”.

I view "Cock Sucker" as a honorific.

OK, but what about COCKGOBBLER?

It is a synonym for faggot.

Another 2015 thread bumped? What's up with that particular year?

As a cocksucker, on my most recent annual review my boss gave me "Exceeds Expectations" as my rating.

Santorum and family lived across the street from me when he was an up and coming congressman. His wife, when single, lived with my doctor. Just some trivia in the "who knew?" category. His Pennsylvania property was in the same borough that my parents lived. I never liked him.

r72 That's not really tea? That's not even lemonade :(

It honestly doesn’t bother me. I guess because I think it’s something I’m proud of.😄

YES it's a homophobic slur.

It's only used towards men and the implication is men who suck cocks are less than and degenerate and terrible people - that's the insult And what kind of men suck cocks? Gay men.

I get that lots of gay guys aren't bothered by it because it's so old and common but it but it is literally an insult about gayness. And all this "depends on how it's used and by who" crap -- Yeah, no shit. That's how every insult is. Your pal insulting you as a joke is okay, we know this... It's always been okay, that's not some new info you're revealing to everyone just now, genius.

Cocksucker as a slur = homophobic. Always has been, always will be.

[quote] the implication is men who suck cocks are less than and degenerate and terrible people

Where is the lie here?

Hi R75

Not if you're really good at it.