I don't understand porn or its use.

are you female, OP?

I'm not female. I'm a gay male.

you're weird then

Good point, OP. The contortions and completely ungainly, awkward positions hardly resemble stimulating scenes in many of these videos. Acting seems forced frequently. Videos on Xtube can be turn-ons because some scenes are home-made (amateur and natural), with stationary cameras, no music, and semi-dim settings.

It is all the things you said OP and worst. It becomes more and more about the fetish as time goes by. It is bigoted in many ways. But sex is a dangerous, intimate thing. If I can't have that I would rather be a voyeur. There is no sin in it. And every now and then a really good scene will come along with beauty and chemistry. That's as rare as a hen's tooth. Real sex is better. And when I was a teenager I had a better imagination cause I had no porn. But a thirsty man will drink warm water as well as cold. Would love to make a porn scene for real- direct and write it. Better porn actors are often better actors. A good story makes better porn. It is a form of film.

I don't watch it much now but the first porn vid I ever really "felt" /connected with as a teen is permanently seered into my brain, unlike anything after which just kind of came and went. I'd like it momentarily, then forget about it completely.

It's my drug of choice. I love watching hot men doing sexy and dirty things to each other. I don't care how unrealistic it is, it's beautiful to look at. At its very best, it's an art form.

Watching other people have sex makes us horny. We jack off and then immediately turn off the porn.

Porn did its job

"You're weird then." No, he's not..the positions and calisthenics movements look awful.

they look fine to me, but does ALL porn include that? over the decades? hardly at all. it's a recent phenomenon with the rise of the Sean Cody esthetic - there is TONS of porn out there that isn't like that at all. and people who are looking to porn for Good Acting? My God, you get fool of the day awards!

I'm with you, OP. Porn bores me to tears.

Straight porn has the same problem with the unrealistic positions. I like watching missionary the best, but it's a forgotten art in porn. I especially hate that most of the time they don't show faces reacting pleasurably to what is being done. In particular, they hardly EVER show the man's reaction, and that's what turns me on the most. Of course I know straight porn is made w straight men in mind, but still, I notice that older European straight porn shows the man's pleasure a lot more.

Women do like porn and lesbians like gay male porn. I know, I can't explain it either. I have no desire to be in a relationship with a man but watching two guys go at it. Big turn on.

R13 it's because men in gay porn are objectified. Lesbians are turned off by male power and men objectifying women. If straight men allowed themselves to be objectified, there would be no lesbians.

It must be stated: two men (or two women) are not quite Yin and Yang. Doesn't quite mesh, may be awkward and uncomfortable ("you want to put that...where??"). I akin myself to a vampire count - I hunt at night needing it, but it may be ultimately unnatural, uneasy and dissatisfying.

What the hell are you talking about R15? Do you live your life following strict Taoist rules if gay sex is not in balance enough? I've actually read Taoist teachings from some current Taoist authors who say that gay sex and gay relationships can have perfect yin and yang balance. I personally don't give a shit about yin and yang balance but since you brought it up...

Then again your "you want to put that...where??" sounds homophobic. Are you a gay man?

OP, if you don't get any sexual feeling from seeing people naked and having sex you might be asexual.

[quote] if you don't get any sexual feeling from seeing people naked and having sex you might be asexual.

One doesn't need to see people having sex or even naked to get aroused. One can be aroused by celebrities, athletes, models, and people one knows. Why is seeing people naked and having sex necessary? One is asexual simply because one doesn't like porn?

This gets my nomination for weird thread of the day.

"Acting"???

What is this, 1985? Or 1991? 1976?

Porn is just sex scenes now with groupings of men. There are no plots or acting going on, just sex.

You're not even watching gay porn, are you? Some old VHS straight shit, right?

[quote]One doesn't need to see people having sex or even naked to get aroused. One can be aroused by celebrities, athletes, models, and people one knows. Why is seeing people naked and having sex necessary? One is asexual simply because one doesn't like porn?

Of course you don't need to see porn to be aroused but someone being dumbfounded by people getting aroused of people having sex makes you wonder is he capable of being aroused at all. I've wanked to the men at the covers of business magazines for god's sake, and when I was a teen there was no internet so most of the arousal came from books and pictures and videos of clothed guys. But there was always some porn around and since puberty I've never not understood what is sexy about porn.

OP, *if* you are male are seriously saying that you've never had a boner watching any kind of porn? OP how old are you and have you had negative experiences involving sex maybe as a kid?

I mean really, OP sounds like a porn hating woman or someone who just doesn't get what sex is. I'm not saying it's wrong at all but it'd be good to know all the facts to have serious conversation.

[quote] One doesn't need to see people having sex or even naked to get aroused.

No, that would be a fetish, and that's not what we're talking about. *Lots* of people like porn. Not liking porn doesn't make you asexual, but it does make you the odd man out.

No you're not, OP. You're not a gay male. A gay male would be turned on by porn and would "get" it without explanation.

You're a freak. Or a pathetic woman.

OP is a trollerina

"It must be stated: two men (or two women) are not quite Yin and Yang." Maybe he/she means the first pairing has too much plumbing, second pair not enough (external). Not good fit?

It's not "pathetic" not to like porn. Some people are more visually oriented than others. It's pathetic to think every single person must get turned on by the same thing that turns you on, or there's something wrong with them.

Sometimes it may be cultural as well. Different cultures may find different things arousing. Maybe whatever OP likes isn't in the porn he saw.

R24, gay people don't have trouble with the wrong "plumbing". For us it's just the right plumbing. This plumbing and yin/yang stuff are excuses homophobes use to justify their homophobia.

R25, it is weird when OP says he can't understand that people get off by porn. Not saying it's wrong but it would be interesting to hear what are the things OP does get excited by.

The Corbin Fisher/Sean Cody porn shills are out in force on this thread, right R20/R22/R26?

R15 sounds mentally ill and self-loathing.

I love porn and I get off watching two men kissing, being affectionate, grinding and humping on each other in a variety of positions. It's very erotic and pleasurable to me.

The idea that heterosexual sex is a more natural, beautiful or sublime coupling is rabid homophobia. Seek help or shut up.

R15 does have a point R28. Gay men tend to be too focused on the physical/sexual side and not enough on the emotional/romantic side while lesbians are often the complete opposite. Although heterosexuality isn't perfect, overall, it is more balanced. This is why heterosexuals are the majority. Mother Nature wanted it that way and life would be unbalanced if most people were gay.

[quote]Gay men tend to be too focused on the physical/sexual side and not enough on the emotional/romantic side while lesbians are often the complete opposite.

There is nothing in R15 that says that. R15 is talking about the sex act. You're talking about trite stereotypes that don't in any way lessen the validity or beauty of gay relationships, or relations. Your last sentence is just stupid trolling, R29. Who says "most people" have to be gay? "Life would be unbalanced?" Your mind sounds unbalanced.

Some of those contortionist sexual positions in the porn films look decidedly unsensual. How can you get aroused?

[quote]It's pathetic to think every single person must get turned on by the same thing that turns you on, or there's something wrong with them.

OP wrote:

[quote]I don't see how people can use it to get off.

He judges others, because they dare to be different than him. If it's not for you, why get all high almighty? Why does it bother someone like OP that some people watch porn? Is he being forced to watch it with them? Does he want a medal, or a gold star sticker, for being special?

Lol R1! Women watch porn too, they just don't talk about it. I do though...at least here, when i'm in the mood. :P

Op, porn is mostly pathetic, yes, but sometimes it can be entertaining and i think no matter what you say, or write, you feel the same. Maybe, you just haven't realized it yet.

However, you seem to care about it , otherwise, you wouldn't mention it!

"Gay men tend to be too focused on the physical/sexual side and not enough on the emotional/romantic side while lesbians are often the complete opposite. Although heterosexuality isn't perfect, overall, it is more balanced. This is why heterosexuals are the majority. Mother Nature wanted it that way..."

1) Straight men are also usually more focused on the physical sex, and straight women are as guilty as lesbians supposedly are of being too focused on romance. Heterosexuality isn't any more "balanced" than other types of pairings.

2) Heterosexuals are the majority because they are either born that way or closeted. Your fairytale version of heterosexual life isn't "more balanced", nor or is the cause of sexual orientation.

3) Mother Nature also "wants" children to die of cancer or starvation, because that happens. Children are also orphaned, molested, and locked in workshops as slave labor. Are you sure we should really care what nature "wants" in regards to pairings, when her track record on other issues is so abysmal?

OP: Mary!

What R3 said. Came here specifically to ask if you are male, OP.

Men are typically visual when it comes to sexual stimulation. You are, to say the least, an atypical male.

I find OP, cute though. Isn't he?

Porn good. Ugh ugh ugh

What's not to like. It's like a peephole with no need to swallow.

I find it to be completely boring and non-sexual most of the time. I would say about 20% of it is any good.

Hee Hee!!

It's completely normal and healthy to not like porn. People who say otherwise are tools.

Congrats on having your own mind.

Porn is a fix, and it is a psychological catharsis.

I see what you mean.

I smell Dumpida on this thread.

I like amateur porn if I watch any at all. But best is my own porn. I usually watch then to get off.

[quote][R25], it is weird when OP says he can't understand that people get off by porn. Not saying it's wrong but it would be interesting to hear what are the things OP does get excited by.

No it wouldn't. Unless the OP is 12 years old, he's attempting to be clever and ask a question he already knows the answer to. If you want to discuss the psychology behind porn--fine--but save all the pretentious, "I don't even own a TV" bullshit.

It is the most convenient way to view hundreds of anuses from the comfort of my trailer

Pornography is body drama on film. It attempts to elicit sexual arousal in much the same way that horror movies arouse fear and terror (often through images of blood) and melodramas are designed to elicit sympathy (often through images of tears) by focusing on penetration (often accompanied by closeups of "money shots"). Basically if you've seen one, you've seen em all. Linda Williams in her book Hard Core calls it a "frenzy of the visible", and her analysis extends to the depiction of power and uses of pleasure in porn films.

Well. It's kind of like watching cooking shows when you're hungry. It inhances your appitite. When you finally do it, it's all the more better.

I love it!

Me, neither!

There needs to be a LOT more shots of the gaping sloppy holes of the bottoms. Thats my general complaint.

I like the stuff from the eighties. Hot guys who looked real. Nice bushes and some body hair. The guys actually seem like they're enjoying themselves. If OP is forming his opinion only on modern stuff with all kinds of acrobatics, that might explain his problem.

I know.

I have a few go-to scenes I'll use in a pinch. But I had to search exhaustively to find something that turned me on. There's no sexy, dirty talk anymore. It's just brutal "f my hole, yeah, f it" that's so blunt and NOT sexy.

Pro porn now is so fake and filled with either roided out gym bunnies or nasty bug chasers that I feel either grossed out or nothing at all, amateur is much better.

[Quote]Pro porn now is so fake and filled with either roided out gym bunnies or nasty bug chasers that I feel either grossed out or nothing at all, amateur is much better.

I agree. Xtube has many, but you got to be wary of even staged amateur videos. The key is stationary camera, no music, slightly shoddy lighting, no over-acting.

[quote]It's completely normal and healthy to not like porn. People who say otherwise are tools.

Okay, but the same things can be said about liking porn as well; it's completely normal and healthy and anyone who argues otherwise is a tool.

People, particularly men, are visual. Watching people have sex is a titillating activity for most "normal" people, and claiming otherwise is foolish and suspect.

OP, you either have weird issues, or you've been looking at all the wrong porn, and for all the wrong reasons (uh, you're supposed to fast forward through the awkward set up and get to the hot sex).

[quote]Women do like porn and lesbians like gay male porn

The industry is pushing this hard. The market must expand. Everyone loves it, including those who don't!

What you don't understand, OP? It is not Maths.

Porn offers stimulation. It's cheap and accessible, that's why many people watch it.

^^^^^^^^^

And it involves rubbing your cock until you cum.

Hee Hee!!

OP = Janet Weiss

OP is Paula Poundstone.

R29, Straight woman here and I must disagree. OP is simply not very visual unlike the majority of straight and gay men and many women. OP, perhaps you need more of a physical presence or touch sensation.

For me the more a couple is into each other the bigger the turn on. So if 2 men are well matched actors that works. It's the chemistry between them even if it's faked. I don't imagine myself in their scene or that they'd be interested in me. That's not the point. It's like seeing a couple walking together down the street and you know they care about each other. I feel romantic seeing them even if I'm alone at the time.

OP maybe you might prefer smutty books?

I have to laugh at the "or its use" part. It's one thing not to understand porn or to just not be into it. But we all know what it's used for.

Maybe OP is more interested in having sex than watching it.

I agree OP, It ultimately becomes boring because it's repetitive and I just don't like watching torture porn.

I certainly wouldn't allow myself to be seen in one of those ludicrous positions.

Me, neither.

ITA with r5.

I like porn involving guys who appear interested in having sex with one another. When they're obviously posing, flexing muscles, arranging themselves in awkward ways, making ridiculously exaggerated faces, etc., it doesn't work for me.

Not much turns me off more than grotesque acts, bizarre positions and straight guys who don't interact and clearly don't want to be doing what they are doing. I always turn all those things off immediately if I happen onto one. When they do strange upside-down "pile driving" and stuff, it does look more like a goofy 1980s aerobics video to me than like anything sexually arousing. I don't know what the producers of such content are thinking.

Some fantasy scenarios do turn me on for reasons I don't really understand, usually a power dynamic like a professor and student or a doctor and patient. The acting ability is rather abritrary in those cases.

Closeups of DAP and TAP always get me off

Porn is for people who are too lazy to fantasize.

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