What are signs that it's time to quit your job?

*time to move on.

A row of Chinese Nationals in suits, standing in the boardroom.

(you are about to be outsourced......get out of there and get the few jobs which still exist in your field, before the stampede of your co-workers)

when your payroll check bounces, and mine has bounced a few times...but I have yet to find a new job so I can't quit this one yet.

when you find yourself talking or thinking about how much better it used to be (even though, in your heart of hearts, you knew you bitched back then too) more often than really engaging in what is going on now.

You quite a job when you have a another job lined up.

I've never been rich enough to just quit a job because it was terrible. And yet I did it once, and I regretted that afterwards.

When you just stop caring about what you're doing. If you have passion for what you're doing, you'll be successful. Once you stop having that passion, you're just faking it, and it will be obvious and you won't do as good a job. Move on.

R5, What if the people are just so unbareable? Have you ever quit because you just couldn't take them anymore regardless if you had a job or not?

Tell me how you coped with that if you didn't.

When you accidently notice a list of complaints made against you on your supervisor's desk. She didn't notice that I noticed (back turned) so I walked right back to my desk and wrote a letter of resignation. I hated that job and those idiots I worked for but the pay was great. I guess my disdain showed though so I knew I'd rather quit on the spot than suffer the humiliation of being fired.

There is this cunt who "has it out for me", according to one of my co-workers. This miserable cunt just hates me for some reason unknown to me. He is old, bitter and negative. He is illegal and never misses a chance to praise his queen of england. I often wonder why he doesn't fuck off back to the UK, they have free health care.

After months or working with you and talking to you about your performance, and suddenly stops or worse, actively avoids you... definitely time to quit. Save yourself the embarrassment of packing your desk in front of your coworkers. Also, doing your boss this minor favor goes a long way towards getting a reference.

When you park in the company lot after your Monday morning commute, and you burst into tears and can't open the car door.

I've cried about having to go back to my job too.

When you talk about the future of your position and are met with dead, awkward silence and then the subject is changed. I'm on a break looking for something else. I agree that you need to quit before you're fired.

I began to to feel physically sick every Sunday night.

Have you ever been bullied at work? Has that ever encouraged you quit even after defending yourself?

I got a job that was a bait and switch; I was going to be placed in Analytics but switched me to a front line Intake worker. Hated the fucking company, hated my supervisor, hated each and every manager all the way up the ladder. BUT I was hired for an extraordinary amount of cash. I worked out a pension maximization plan to quit in December 2015, BUT I was called to a HR fucking INVESTIGATION that lasted THREE FUCKING HOURS. I quit the next Monday. Funny thing is I had already cleaned out my office.

r14, r12 and r11, me too, and when I got to work I would see coworkers crying at their desks because the job was so horrific.

Also done tears over work. No more, I just bring the place down from the inside, bit by bit.

You start playing Powerball. Truly believing you can win.

OMG, r19.

R7 I quite a job once when the management was abusive. I was miserable. I needed the money but I quit anyway. I had another job at half time. I took a 50K pay cut when I quit. It took me 5 years to work back up to my old income. I regretted that. When I was young I would quit shitty low paid jobs and find another.

When you are a "grown up" with a professional salary and a career to manage you really should have another job lined up before you quit a job because the atmosphere is poisonness.

In fact, sticking it out and doing what is best for yourself financially is part of the way to deal with workplace drama and bad management. In fact you have to find ways to to let it get to you, and you have to look out for yourself. In my situations, the best think for me is 100k a year, not 0. Not 50. Or 130K a year, not suddenly 60. You get the picture. But its good to recognise that its time to go. So you have to find the next opportunity, and then go. Quitting before hand can be a sort of self-sabotage and in fact can be part of the damage the sociopath at work has planned and wants of you. They may want your total destruction, even after you leave. Leaving in a strong situation (another job, financial security) is the ultimate fuck you. If you are in danger of a mental breakdown then Ok there may be no other choice but to get the hell out no matter the consequences.

Insomnia. Waking up in the middle of the night and you can't get back to sleep, dreading Going To Work.

If you're miserable and have a ne$t egg, do it now before the corporate Repugs torpedo the economy for the 2016 POTUS election.

When you can't go to bed at night for fear of the morning.

I had a job where I'd ended up sitting on the couch until like 2AM just dreading going to bed because I knew once I did I'd just have to get up again and go to work.

when your manager tells everyone in the team, except you, that she's getting a 'promotion'. I went on vacation one week after and she had left while I was on gone and when I returned there was a new asshole manager and the ship was sinking. So I left.

Thanks R21.

I don't know what to do. This guy hates me at work for reason unknown to me, I heard him tell someone that he's going to get me fired. I am good at my job but I just hate office politics!

The day just comes when you realize you are just finished and you won't be staying no matter what. But like earlier posters said, find the next job before you do quit.

R27, thank you for the advice!

Do you know you're supposed to get paid more if you have more duties? I am 18yrs old and a waiter at a cafe, I worked here for 3 months and my boss now makes me do the schedule, assign shifts to my co-workers. Am I supposed to be paid more for this? What is the norm? I'm was afraid to ask my boss, didn't want to rock the boat.

R28, you're 18 and 3 months into a new job...when I was your age my boss at the restaurant I worked at took care of me, but I had to prove myself for several months. I don't think you should ask for a raise or anything just yet...

R29, Thank you for your answering. I am new to this and just trying to figure things out. I love DL for all the experts and help offered here.

I knew it was time to leave my current job when our division chief said he just didn't see my team as being necessary. He prefaced his comments with, "Please don't take this personally," but it was hard not to.

I've since been offered, and accepted, a position in Germany...a dream come true. I'll be making more money and have fewer responsibilities (plus I get to jump off a sinking ship).

Sneak-drinking at work? Time to move on to different stress.

R31, wow, congrats on your new job! All the best!

You move on (and up) after 2 years.

Or you stay an become a lifer.

I am looking for a job now. Ugh...

I don't know if the OP is the 18-year-old waiter, but I imagine for you it's when you have other options, after you've graduated college or whatever trade school you could handle.

The other option is to have Fuck-you money. I quit my last job because it was toxic; nothing like walking into the office at 8am to see co-workers ALREADY crying at their desks. I went through the financial cushions and found cash to last me about 18 months, possibly two years. I will be finding the RIGHT job next.

R37, how's the job hunt going? Is it tough out there?

I quit a government job. I have tons of experience and I'm over 40. Government HRs cannot discriminate. I interview well. I can also downgrade my job expectations as I have a house that is paid for and I have already bought everything major I need to buy with only a few $K in credit debt. I am looking for a working retirement job. Decent pay, good health plan with work that ends at 5pm. Also, in my area there are over three dozen public employers that pay into my retirement system. Plus, funding is increasing and more jobs are opening up that were held in abeyance for the past 4 years. I am not worried.

R39, good for you, wish you all the best.

R39 Please do come back after you're forced to collect early social security.

When your new boss has the same birth date as your father and acts passive-aggressive just like him. I'm gone.

I quit my job in October because my boss was a two faced bitch cunt. I was constantly being written up for little things which nobody in the history of the company had ever been written up for. I tried so hard to watch my every step but I eventually realized that no matter what I did she would keep writing me up and she wanted me out. Besides her I liked the job and got along with everyone else. The final straw was when she yelled at me for not doing something unethical. I walked off the job. It was a professional job with good pay for my area. I've never had anything like this happen to me before. I haven't found a new job yet but I'm gradually growing my own business. I had some savings. And I would do it all over again! FUCK YOU SMELLY CUNT!

When those little three words are uttered: Box Office Poison.

Seriously this is why I really like being 6' 4", 230 lbs, and having a boss always announcing with pride that I'm "Ex military. He as in the Army." You don't get a lot of shit.

Curious, to those who mentioned you saw coworkers also crying, can you let us know what type of work you were doing?

I've hated jobs before and dreaded going to work, but I've never cried (and I cry over everything), so I can't imagine how bad that would have to be.

I've never cried at work, but I did have to resort to taking anti-anxiety pills because of the bs I was dealing with. I eventually left. If you have to take prescription drugs to deal with your fucked up job, it's time to quit.

Stop looking at internet porn at work.

I would say start looking at internet porn at work. You'll be happier.

When your line manager comes to find you and insists you come to her office right now and when you get there she starts going on about why are you ignoring so and so's emails and instead of giving the line manager some placatory bull you just sigh and say 'ok, I really don't give a fuck anymore, so this is what's going on...' and you tell her about the bullying that you've dealt with for months from so and so and what a complete asshole and looney toon so and so is , and your line manager just sits there in shock that you said 'fuck'.

Actually, because she could tell I was being completely honest, I think she respected me for just laying it on the line. I negotiated a decent redundancy package not long after that and walked, as I was becoming sick with the stress. This was academia. It's full of raging assholes and crazies.

When security walks you and your belongings out of the building.

I am having so many problems with work right now, mainly with this cunt who is talking non-stop in my boss's ears about my faults etc. This cunt has a personal agenda against me and manipulates my boss into blaming me for things that go wrong and now my boss is telling me to find another job.

Good thread. I don't feel so alone.

Especially with the bullying part.

When your supervisor, after years of giving you great reviews, suddenly starts finding fault with everything you do and starts with the "people have been complaining" bit with no backup or proof. Yes, this happened to me.

(Did I mention that she slipped up and made some comment about " we just want some fresh blood around here". Did I also mention that she had been there 10 years longer than me)?

Why can't people go to work, do the best job they can, be pleasant to everyone, then go home at the end of the day, happy? I thought this was the way it would be since we are adults.

This is the way it's supposed to be and most people do the best they can, but there are so so many others who live to stir up trouble at work and make someone who they don't like for whatever reason (usually petty reasons) miserable.

I remember being so shocked at my first job at how mean most of the people were, especially the bosses. After ten years of being bullied I started to have insomnia and got physically ill and had to quit. I didn't realize the stress would cause me to get sick or I would have quit much earlier.

Don't try to be tough and hope things will change like I did. Try to get a job lined up first like the others said, then get the hell out.

Yes I agree R55, that's what I do, I try my best but there are always some fucking BS politics and others who don't like your success and try to fuck u up even when you've done nothing to them. I am looking for a new job, hope to ditch this one by the end of the year.

Usually the smaller the prize the nastier the fighting. Cubefraus chained to the copier will plot and scheme like it was some palace intrigue. Who is going to be where in the court.

R57 echoes what someone once said about academia : the in-fighting is so intense because there is so little at stake.

Palace intrigue, lol hilarious.

Many people treat the workplace as an adult High School, and the same issues arise: bullies, cliques, sucking up to teacher / manager. This was a great shock to me.

The installation of urinal dividers in the men's room.

When your colleagues throw you monthly farewell parties and spring for the $10 card every time.

r41, government employees are Social Security exempt. You know not of which you speak, dear.

Time to quit when you start fantasizing about murdering your boss and/or co-workers.

[quote]I was constantly being written up for little things which nobody in the history of the company had ever been written up for.

How would you know this? Do you routinely go around sharing with your coworkers that YOU were written up? Probably a lot of people are written up for the same things, but you, being the special snowflake you are, think it's just you.

[quote]Why can't people go to work, do the best job they can, be pleasant to everyone, then go home at the end of the day, happy? I thought this was the way it would be since we are adults.

You will find almost everyone does this, except for the slew of "Special Snowflakes" here who think they are being persecuted.

r63 = HR.

People never forget their HR reps.

Don't forget that you will be remembered, and most likely, not well.

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R63, I had an employer who was a government contractor that was always getting sued. They too Administrative action just to cover their ass over the smallest thinks, and YES WE ALL talked about them. When someone was going to get the ax, new and creative "areas of concern" would be found. When this happened we would start planning the gone away party in anticipation of the day HR would meet someone, usually Fridays, with moving boxes and a security escort out of the building.

How could anyone on this board possibly tolerate bullying?

As a known and confirmed homosexualist, it is my fucking civic duty to instill fear, respect, and a taste for good footwear in the workplace.

I'm looking for a clip on my cheap phone. Brb.

Fiona Goode: The point is in this whole wide wicked world the only thing you have to be afraid of is me.

That was one of the biggest changes in the past 20 years or so -- before, it someone was fucking with you, you could turn and roar him/her a new asshole. Now, the only crime is raising your voice, no matter what the reason that caused you to do it.

I think that is the reason for the increase in violence in once less volitile exchanges -- if you are going to get into trouble for getting mad, you might as well make it worth it.

Mostly, Victim Cultures are coward cultures as well as passive aggressive cultures, so their intrusion into the workplace also explains the spike in bullying.,

When you find yourself nearly bored to tears. Seriously - plus you notice the company CEO trotting around a lot of suits you don't recognize. That's the situation I'm in now - gave my notice - done the 14th of August. Have a new job lined up alreadyl.

R71, good luck!

Bump

I stopped caring about my job, the actual work, plus no interest in making suggestions for process improvements or submitting work to be reviewed, the way I did before. But I haven't found a replacement job yet so I'm stuck.

I worked somewhere where I pretty much stopped caring on the first day. Hell, before the first day. Dumb decisions like that will destroy you emotionally.

when you've got something better lined up or have made enough money. no one said you're gonna have fun but if it's too stressful or depressing get out and hopefully you'll have something else to fall back on.

When they start taking advantage of you when you have to work late and they bitch at you why you start ten minutes late.

Can you see yourself still doing this in 1 year? If not, it is time to start looking.

When your employer is under investigation by police.

After the 7th time I hit my head on the center drawer of his desk.

When the first words out of my mouth in the morning were "Oh, fuck."

8 years of traveling to random cities at 6AM Monday and returning at 10pm Friday. Working 70 hour weeks. Dealing with hedge fund assholes who love to cause stress so they make money. Hating everyone I worked with. Increasing Xanax and Ambien usage. Getting wasted on Saturday nights for a relief from the unending stress. Hating my life and not caring if I died. But terrified of not having enough money for retirement.

I quit, semi-retired and learned to live on 75% less by moving cities and never going out to eat and stopping drinking. Capitalism sucks. Unless you absolutely love money.

When the check doesn’t pay your bills

All these Poo Shoes bump bitch threads. Wow.

When you have unexpected overtime that comes up occasionally which you don't mind staying over. But when you're 10 minutes late in the morning they bitch and morn and want to write you up. It's like WTF? You inconvenience me when I want to leave from work on time but I don't complain about it, my position doesnt affect the operation of the business if I'm late.

When the company cannot seem to make a profit, no matter what they try, and the new, incompetent ceo starts firing good long time employees. You will be on that list. Get off that sinking ship. Don’t expect it to get better. It won’t.

i've had the same experience as others above, i've been treated degradingly many times at my current job (it was "in the best interests of the institution") but stayed on account of my age + the pay package + the nature of the job itself, which i like. i've had rages about the conditions (at home, not at work) but in the long run it was the right thing for my own financial security and for social engagement. at this point (i've reached a certain age) i'm earning more than i ever thought possible and frankly i'd feel ungrateful (to the universe, to god, whatever) to leave, especially in the current environment. however i have an eye on my savings every day and i'll go as soon as i can and i'll sever every tie with the place.

when you feel like any day now your going to get fired, better to quit on them first, that's how i felt about this one job....

another job, i remember being "let go" and told again and again i wasn't being fired, i was just being "let go" and that i could use them as a reference, i don't remember the exact reason why they told me i was "being let go" i think it had to do with not enough work and downsizing, i was only at the job for a few months...however, i found it odd then and now years later, that i had no idea this was going to happen, my manager walked (they had no security officers there) me out then and there and i found it odd that all this happened only a hour and half before the day was over (what i couldn't work that last 1 1/2 hours and then spring all this on me?)... so it got me wondering if i was being fired, and not quote "just being let go"...who knows?..

Basically, when you have another gig to go to that pays enough.

Started developing an ulcer. Higher management kept adding to our unrealistic workload in spite of repeated evidence that the current team was very taxed. Higher management keeps quitting and finding new people who have to then learn or ask what we do because they don’t understand it. Lateral level managers such as myself finding other positions outside of our department, that seemingly don’t make sense, just in order to leave.

RUN

I had no life; not the employer’s fault. I took a job in NYC but live in northern NJ. I had always wanted to work in NYC. But I’d just bought my condo. My commute was 90 minutes each way. I did it for four years. After 9/11, the commute got longer. I was getting up at 4:45 am and not getting home until 7:30 pm. I had no weekends because Saturdays was spent on errands and Sundays I was cleaning my house.

Then one day a new manager was brought in with the same title as my manager. I knew something was going to happen. I saved as much of my salary as I could, including bonuses. I signed up with a few temp agencies that I’d worked with in the past. When I had about 4 months salary saved, I quit. No jobs the 1st week. But then I got a 2 week assignment and then another. The last one turned into a full time job with benefits. Stayed there 4 years and then found a permanent position with another company. It was a lower salary by about $10k but I made it work. I’m now making almost $30k more than the NYC job.

One big thing to consider is the cost of COBRA benefits. Thank God, I only needed 2 months of coverage! That cost really ate into my savings.

Screw cobra. I was able to get Obama care. 700 a month for cobra fuck you

Don't analyse too much. "A bog's a big at the end of the day innit."

I would google “signs of burn out” and see if they describe you. If they do, be honest about your savings and monthly expenses. Do the math on how much runway you have. If you have at least 1.5 years to live on comfortably, I would quit. If the math doesn’t work in your favor, start looking aggressively for a new job. Even if it’s temp work, you need an income. Good luck, OP!

For 15 years, I had the most wonderful, supportive boss I could Have ever hoped for. When he retired, he was replaced by an insecure cunt.

Within 6 months, I left

[Quote] One big thing to consider is the cost of COBRA benefits.

Now that Obamacare exchanges exist, there is no reason to pay for COBRA. Obamacare’s subsidies make it far cheaper, particularly when you’ve lost your job and have no income anymore

Exactly, R96. I quit a job in 2013, a job I had for 18+ years but I despised it and wanted to retire. I would have to live on my savings for about a year before Social Security would kick in.

I retired just as Obamacare was starting up. My employer offered me COBRA at $750.00/month. Since I had no income and was going to rely on savings, I got Obamacare silver coverage for no monthly premium.

When the company is already small and does a mass round of job eliminations. Even if your job is spared, it will probably mean that your workload will be increased to makeup for the eliminated positions and it also doesn’t guarantee you won’t be cut during the next round of eliminations.

You've gone postal.

I used to gag and retch in the mornings on the way to a previous job. I thought it was due to heartburn or something, turns out I hated my job and it went away after I got a new one.

I’ve recently lost a manager I really enjoyed working with (she got promoted to another dept) and she’s been replaced by a useless idiot. I’ve had so many of these useless cunts I’ve lost count. Time to start looking again... sigh

For me it's just a simple case of feeling: if you get depressed even at the thought of the job, of having to go into the office to do the job, and there is nothing about the job you can point to as a positive other than the fact you're getting a paycheck (but find everything else about it completely misery-inducing), then it's time to move on. How you feel on Sunday nights should tell you everything you need to know.

When your favorite coworkers end up leaving and they are replaced by incompetent lazy backstabbing assholes.

At my last job, when I first started, I loved most of the people. Over just a three year period, my favorite people ended up leaving the company for one reason or another (found something that paid better, were ready for something new, got sick of the company, wanted to be a stay at home mom, etc). The people that replaced them were never as good in terms of work ethic or personality. And of course I experienced the dreaded manager change (you know, where you loved your last manager and then they leave and the company brings in some asshole who doesn’t know shit).

Finally one day I just said to myself, “I really don’t like any of these people” and I turned in my two weeks the next day. I just simply could not deal with the miserable atmosphere anymore. If I have to be around people for 8 hours a day 5 days a week, I need to be able to at least tolerate them.

Here is a way to let them know you have no problem walking. Go ahead and box up your stuff if that’s an option. Clean the office completely. Then Be late enough the next day that somebody looks for you in your space.

When they keep covering up the Gloryhole I make in the men’s room

R103 good for you

When they don’t pay you.

R91 here. I left my job in 2003; there was no Obamacare available to me. Had there been, I definitely would have enrolled. For anyone leaving a job now, I’d suggest checking the Marketplace so you have an idea of cost of coverage and can factor that into your expenses.

excellent point R108. i live in NYS, the premiums are pretty high, another reason i stay at my workplace.

My last two permanent corporate positions turned out to be nightmares - the jobs were open because employees were leaving in droves. I've been temping for the last year, and it hasn't been bad at all. If an assignment became unpleasant, it was not difficult to leave and find another one. Due to COVID-19, many of these office jobs have been converted to telecommuting. My current position is a government contract gig, which is scheduled to end in November - just in time for the Obamacare open enrollment period. I've been so burned by permanent jobs that I may remain in the contractor world until I retire (5-7 years). I won't be trapped in a permanent job due to needing health care coverage, and I'm old enough and poor enough to qualify for discounted premiums.

[quote] another job, i remember being "let go" and told again and again i wasn't being fired, i was just being "let go" and that i could use them as a reference, i don't remember the exact reason why they told me i was "being let go" i think it had to do with not enough work and downsizing, i was only at the job for a few months...however, i found it odd then and now years later, that i had no idea this was going to happen, my manager walked (they had no security officers there) me out then and there and i found it odd that all this happened only a hour and half before the day was over (what i couldn't work that last 1 1/2 hours and then spring all this on me?)... so it got me wondering if i was being fired, and not quote "just being let go"...who knows?..

R88, you were fired, terminated, axed, canned, sacked, pink-slipped, 86'd, etc.

Especially if you are middle-aged or older, ask yourself: "Do I want to be doing this in a year, when I'm ___ years old?" Also, ask yourself: "If not now, when?"

In May I found a job which allows me to work from home full time. My department has limited office space, and permanent telecommuting is encouraged. Everything was great until July, when I was assigned to a new team. The supervisor is a raging extrovert who requires her teleworking crew to commute to the office for - get this - birthday potlucks. Teleworkers don't have cubicles, so when we're in the office we have to scramble to find a desk, which usually means sharing a small printer/supply cube. Everyone wears masks, but in that space social distancing is impossible. The supervisor gets away with this by conducting 15 minutes of useless "training updates," followed by 45 minutes of eating homemade food in her cramped office. Last month, one employee tested positive for COVID-19, yet no one up the management chain appears concerned about these mandatory germ festivals.

When at looked at what my income would be if I quit today or in two years and I saw that it makes very little difference if I do one or the other.

I work from home full time and have done so for years, and I enjoy my work quite a lot and have tons of holiday time and flexibility in using it. But for two years now the private company has been in the hands of executives who want to make uniform every product, to streamline every work process, to make staff interchangeable. With numerous office locations they have forced out people who don't want to relocate in a consolidation, then once the offices have been mostly emptied they have changed their minds about consolidation and refilled the positions with eager workers with freshly printed university degrees in hand. Work from home staff were fired unless they accepted miserable transfer packages, thus weeding out a lot of senior staff who had earned that status with reliability and results. They replaced about half of those positions with new grads. More with less, more with less.

The executives, all brought in from an acquired company, clearly have been instructed to run a lean and tight ship that can be easily and quickly be sold by the sons of the owner when he dies. The father is ancient and cares only to be the owner of the company he started. His sons who are old have nice addresses on FIfth Avenue and lack their father's sentimentality. In two years there has not been on hint of promise that conditions will do anything but get worse and signs only accelerate that they will get worse.

Those are the signs. They are here already. Because I work from home in my own bubble I have a large degree of immunity from day to day office rumblings, but when they affect my enjoyment of the work, I will leave or let them push me out.

It's the manager every time for me. I've had dream jobs that became nightmares under new management.

When you're not in alignment with them, when they're making odd decisions, when their communication sucks, when you're being denied opportunities for growth and advancement, when you don't get any recognition for the work you're doing, when they play favorites (even if you're one of the favorites -- trust me, that can change very quickly), when they're brought in to "shake things up," when they have no empathy, when they start trying out weird management shit that makes no sense, when they are completely disengaged and don't give a shit, when you're an old fart and they tell you how much they value youthful energy and enthusiasm ... update your resume and get the hell out as soon as you can.

I'm in an in-between state now, with a good manager who left early this year replaced by an indifferent manager who really doesn't belong in the role. It's not so bad that I have to quit but there's definitely no future here. Fortunately, I'm close to retirement and could walk out today if I had to. Tentatively, I'll hang on until next April and quit then.

R115 I could’ve written your post. Too bad I’m still at least 20 plus years from retirement.

When your boss is fired and they slowly start firing each if your co/workers while telling you how key you are in the success of the business. This has happened to me twice!

I am there now. My company was recently acquired by another and there are WAY too many duplicate sales roles.. By first quarter next year I fully expect most management at my company to be gone-

It's a matter of time, so as HORRIBLE as this position has become, I am glad to have it.

Getting laid off in a depression is going to be the challenge of a lifetime.

[quote]I'm in an in-between state now, with a good manager who left early this year replaced by an indifferent manager who really doesn't belong in the role. It's not so bad that I have to quit but there's definitely no future here.

Why is it that 9/10 times whenever you get a new manager, it’s someone who is dumb as shit and/or an asshole? It just blows me away.

(Almost) everyone has complaints about their job, no matter how much they like it in general. Sometimes the good outweighs the bad, and you can make sure to revel in the good when it's happening because you know the bad (e.g., stupid meetings that go nowhere; planning initiatives that never materialize--or worse, DO; the incompetent manager who somehow fails upward) will rear its head soon.

My signpost for knowing it's time to quit was learning to recognize my mental state while I was complaining. If I got home from work and wanted to bitch about my job all through dinner, then it kept eating at me at night (to the point of talking about it again), then dreading the next morning... and finding ways to be "legitimately" late the next day... THAT'S when I knew I had to move on. The negative had started to consume me to the point where I was boring MYSELF with the anxiety and annoyance of it.

Once you decide to leave, an eerie calm comes over you that puts everything into perspective. Your parasympathetic system kicks in and says, "Okay, calm down now... You're still you, just without the stress of that job!"

When you are just sick of the whole damn nonsense that is our corporate culture. Most jobs are shit. Most companies are just wasting their time doing shit that nobody should be doing. This is a sick and stupid corporate culture, and the truth is most people should quit their jobs.

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R120 yes!!! I quit a decent paying job a few years ago (against everyone’s warnings because I had nothing lined up) because it was literally driving me insane. A month later I started a new job and I really enjoy where I am right now.

R116 Same here. My old company was bought out in December 2018. The number of employees that transferred into the new company was in triple digits.

As of today there is probably fewer than 20 people left from the original company

Starting up Outlook each morning and knowing that there would be a new shitstorm in my inbox created by my boss.

I started with the company in January, we restructured in February and I was assigned to a team and a “leader” with whom I wasn’t a good fit - skills-wise for the team and personally with the leader. From day one she started managing me out. I jumped two hours before I was pushed in the last week of my probation in June after five months of every day being worse than the day before. I was the fourth of her team of team to resign since she took over.

Now unemployed and dealing with COVID related blood clots on both lungs after being hospitalised but the feeling of relief when I hit Send on my resignation email to her back in June was amazing.

I am working at a high level, high stress job and often think about quitting. Salary is excellent, there is no ageism and benefits are great. Generally, I love what I do but some of the people are pretty toxic. The stress has been affecting my physical and mental health and I ask myself, how much longer can I do this? However, with COVID, what plans can any of us make to travel, explore, do things, etc.? In two months I will have Medicare and I hope that will give me a greater sense of freedom to resign if I feel I must for health reasons. Sometimes I really think, "I am too old for this shit."

can I ask what you love about it r126?

when the thought of getting out of bed and going to work makes you physically ill

R127: I enjoy being productive and problem-solving the many challenges that arise. I really like most of the people who report directly to me. But there is a lot of micro-managing from above and there is a lot of politicking/backbiting from some very competitive people.

R124- I think you meant ME! R118 :)

I keep warning my colleagues about what is coming but no one wants to accept it.

I will be very surprised if I am employed by March 2021.

I am feeling that whatever happens is the will of the universe.

The job is so FUCKING HORRIBLE at this point that it will be a blessing in many ways.

I am so scared to even look for other positions (fear of seeing how bad things are and also- I have not a CLUE how and if companies are hiring, and interviewing is even done (I am assuming ZOOM)- I am scared to death to even see! So I updated my resume last week- and that's it.

So I updated my resume and I am looking forward to the holidays and then whatever will be will be in 2021....

Our new "owner" has such a horrific reputation that I have had my clients tell me to FIND ANOTHER JOB- A few have offered to give me recommendations and professional references- its been crazy. My new company is despised in my industry.

Anyway, the last 5 responses alone make me feel better (The Outlook Inbox!!! YES!!!!! Heart palpitations. Sometimes I even get TEARS in my fucking eyes!- Its horrible)

I had a job once that was so unremittingly awful that I couldn't get to sleep on Sunday nights because it would be my last bit of freedom until 6:00 on Friday. And then on Fridays I would get blindingly drunk.

I've had a few careers and think that if you find three things that are unacceptable to you and you know or feel that they will not change, then that's a good sign. Every job is going to have one or two fucked up things about it, but three is my limit.

R131 - has same job you describe. Life was absolute misery for years. I hated life and honestly didn’t care I was alive or dead - but stayed on it because I was terrified of being broke. Freedom from that job was the first step in living life. So glad I made it to the other side before I died.

Coming from a poor family, my fear of poverty outweighed my knowledge of how miserable my life was. I know I still had it easier than my father who worked in coal mines and barely got by. But I am still unsure if I did the right thing and if the trade off was worth it.

Wow, R126, you've described my situation too (except I'm a few years from Medicare).

[quote]But there is a lot of micro-managing from above and there is a lot of politicking/backbiting from some very competitive people.

R129 I read that as "barebacking" instead of "backbiting" and was about to send you my resume.

I tell my friends that being loyal to your job is a waste of time now. Not like the old days when your job cared about you. The only thing to care about is yourself.

[quote]I tell my friends that being loyal to your job is a waste of time now. Not like the old days when your job cared about you. The only thing to care about is yourself.

Similarly, I 'm a sort of ant-recruiter for my employer and tell my colleagues who are young and talented and have potential for better things that I will be their nagging reminder not to stay in one place too long.