Why Isn’t Anyone Talking About The Graphic Male Rape On “Outlander”?

Where's the video

Because we're not one of its faaaaaaaaaaans!

This rape is not shocking, disturbing, disgusting, unprecedented or even hot without a video.

Pics! Lots of pics!

Wish they had shows like this when I was a teenager. "Wow! It goes in there?!!"

New show to watch, thanks

You kind of have to feel for the show runners. They really thought they'd trumped GAME OF THRONES for once and then GoT fucking unleashes "Hardhome".

Why is the cute guy's left hand bloody?

R7, did Jon Snow get raped?

still no gif or video link?

...because there's only a Public uproar when it happens to female characters. This is called "male privilege".

He should have fucked him in the ass in the town square instead of whipping him.

What r11 said, the victim was male so no one cares.

Because women are normally the victims of rape, a lot of idiots have decided you can't have a women being raped...even though that is the realisitic thing to have happen. It makes ZERO SENSE.

OP, you have triggered me, and yet you provided no trigger warnings. I am reporting you to the Dean of the Faculty and the President of the College under Title IX. You will get what's coming to you.

The reason people got so worked up about that GoT rape was because the girl in question was a teenage virgin who had grown up in front of us. If someone had raped a virgin fifteen-year-old boy who'd grown up in front of a TV audience, I think the furor would be greater rather than lesser, as it would have more shock value.

I haven't seen "Outlander", but those pictures are of adults, who definitely aren't virgins. Anyone got a video clip?

The other reason everyone got worked up over GoT and not this is that people actually watch GoT.

Rape Schmape!

I watch Outlander and there was definitely an uproar over Jamie's rape, which was very graphic, violent and drawn out. Generally, the upset feelings come from those who have not read the books and didn't expect it. The book-readers think the non-book readers are pearl-clutchers and the non-book readers think the book readers are into torture porn.

I'm a non-book reader and I doubt I'll be watching next season. It's not just the graphic nature of the rape, but the premise of the story is beginning to seem like bad fanfic.

lmao @ r17!

BUTT was it rape-rape?

Here. FF to 15:10. There's cock at the beginning of this episode too.

I've watched Outlander, and I've lost count of the times the female lead has been raped, or attempted raped, or sexually assaulted. It's a one trick pony. Not much happens there, except rape, and it's been so often I've stopped caring.

As for this dude's rape, it was drawn out in a "OMG THIS IS WORSE THAN DEATH JUST WAIT WHILE WE KEEP GOING BACK TO IT THROUGHOUT THE EPISODE". They managed to make it boring, and Jamie's reaction was so weird I just wanted to yell "oh, for Christ's sake, just get over it already".

...but then he said he rather...liked it.

Someone asked why his hand was bloody. He'd had a nail pounded through it.

Oh, dear god, R24. This guy does these horrible things to him, yet he wants to fuck him. Sick, sick place, the closet.

If I remember well, the GoT rapes uproar were generated by changes from the books. No rape of Cersei by her brother. No rape of Sansa after the weding. And the scriptwriters decided it would a lot mor entertaining for TV to have them being raped.

The handsome laird's rape was in the book. It seems it was very detaied, or so they say. Like R17 and R21 said, independently of the shock value, it was rather boring. The pace ? The way it is written ?

Maybe because I felt it was not about the two men but all about Claire, somehow.

I'm getting bored with this show. Wasn't she supposed to try and return home ? Urgh!

GOT illicited an uproar because it has a larger more mainstream audience.

The rape on Outlander was far more brutal both physically and emotionally than Sansa's.

And Jaime didn't like it. After prolonged brutality and multiple rapes his rapist plays a total mind fuck on Jaime. Jaime's to the point of delirium and the sick fuck pretends to be Jaime's wife. In his delirium he sees and hears Claire. He passes from pain/rape into pleasure.

I give Starz and the actors props for not wimping out. The last 2 episodes have been harrowing.

[r27] How many times he was raped? In the episode it was shown only 2

Elicited, not illicited, r27.

Illicit is something not legal, which graphic male rape isn't, but using words properly is what civilized people do.

Rape is not "not legal," R29?

Sorry for the unintentional double negative, r30.

I'll "oh dear" myself for that.

Found the episode on youtube. The video quality is shitty but it's watchable.

Agree with r27. Jaime didn't like it. But he was delirious by the end. He thought the guy was his wife and he felt pleasure from the act.

It was disturbing because it was violent and it went on and on and on. Usually with female rape victims its over and done. But this was revisited many times in the episode. It made me very uncomfortable, It was also not about sex with Black Jack Randall, it was all about power and dominance. Tobias Menzies really creeped me out in this role. But I love Outlander as a whole - better than Game of Thrones in the cinematography category.

Why do I find Black Jack Randall hot? What is wrong with me?

R34 Looking for love in all the wrong places, my friend. When a man nails your hand to a table, it's time to let that relationship go.

Tobias Menzies (Black Jack Randall) can rape me anytime! Gay or straight?

[R36] unfortunately both are straight

"What R11 said, the victim was male so no one cares."

Um, no. But bless your heart for getting worked up over nothing. GOT is a hit, Outlander is not. That's the difference. How can people complain about something they haven't seen? The MRA trolls here are so stupid.

I got curious and watched this.

The guy playing Jamie is very good looking and he gets sexually objectified in this. The bad guy was scary and completely twisted in his need to break and own him.

It was very brutal and while it was interesting to watch I don't know enough of the show in order to tell if this was just pure torture pron or did it actually contribute anything in terms of plot or character development.

The ending seemed so out of place. It did seem like fanfiction.

I must have missed the rape scene or something.

I watched the whole youtube video, and it looked to me like they were just having regular sex.

R39

Black Jack is a sadist. I don't believe he enjoys sex per se. It's all about power and dominance.

He's wanted to break Jaime for several years. Black Jack was going to rape Jaime's sister about 4 years ago. Jaime fought him and took a savage whipping. That's why Jaime has all those back scars. Despite that Jaime never capitulated. It became Black Jack's goal to truly break him.

I don't believe he's even gay. He didn't want to fuck Jaime because of lust. It was to crush him.

The actor who plays Jaime is hot as hell and the scenes between Jaime/Claire are quite explicit and sexy. The show is good but even if it wasn't it's worth it just for his nudity.

Black Jack Randall is straight, R37?

It's Jamie, R41, not Jaime. He's Scots, not Hispanic.

Randall is gay.

Sure, it's about power and dominance. But he also found Jamie hot. Because why bother kissing the guy? What's with all those caresses? Why even bother jacking off Jamie?

I think most of you are missing the point (or points) behind the uproar about the rape on GOT. The rape of women is not a unique thing on tv - in fact, it happens a little too often. It's become almost a 'go to' event for women, a horrible right of passage if the writers need something for the MALE characters to react to. And often, it isn't about the woman, but about the MAN's reaction - which was a major complaint regarding GOT. Also, it's a story that they keep coming back to on the show with different female characters, as if there is nothing else interesting to do with a woman or show a woman doing. AND as pointed out, the rapes on the show aren't being dictated by the books - the show writers are choosing to put the female characters through this - again, as if it's their go to move to put women through so the audience can see how hard it is for the male characters to cope with. Just twisted.

The rape of Jaime, while violent and awful and no less or no more violent an act than it is when it happens to women, it ISN'T something that is seen often on tv or movies. It is something different - there are stories to tell there that haven't been done to death before. It ISN'T a go to move with a male character. It's actually something of a ballsy move to have your male hero raped - and to show the consequences. Now, if this sort of thing started happening to male characters every month, you would start seeing the same angry audience reaction - because it is no longer a new story, there would be nothing left to explore, no originality and it would likely be exploitative.

It wasn't just because a female was raped. Specific to GoT, it was a story point the writers have kept going back to with different female characters for no particular reason than to put the MEN through the emotional wringer. It feels repetitive, pointless and exploitative. Certainly, they can come up with something else to put the characters through.

Ohhhh, anal RAPE, anal rape, anal rape!

(It's all I ever talked about back on SNL.)

Because nobody watches this show

I call bs.

Jamie is so huge and strapping, that he easily could have beaten Jack Randall to a pulp.

There's no way he would have submitted to being raped, especially since he towers over the other guy.

With a nail driven through his hand, and the infection that was probably growing in it, I'm guessing he was pretty rapeable. Plus he was chained to a wall for at least part of it.

r48, the workaround for that was Jamie promising he'd do anything without resisting in exchange for Claire going free. The core of Jamie's character is his honor, which Randall is attempting to crush by tormenting him.

"...and I liked it! I LIKED it!!"

I'm sorry, but Jamie just looks SO hot here...

"Outlander" is pure frau fic.

"Specific to GoT, it was a story point the writers have kept going back to with different female characters for no particular reason than to put the MEN through the emotional wringer. "

You know, I'm trying to recall other rapes on the show, and if I'm correct there's more talk than actual rape. A gang of men grabbed Sansa in season 2 but the Mountain saves her, Joffrey kept threatening her but never did... Jamie and Cersie had rough sex during Joffrey's wake but that wasn't rape-rape, and Dany did say "yes" on her joyless wedding night so it wasn't technically rape, and Brienne fights back at Harrenhall and also isn't raped... Of course Mirri Maz Duur is gang-raped by the Dothraki and pays them back for it, but I can't say that any men experienced an "emotional wringer" because of it.

If my memory is correct, "GoT" isn't using rape cheaply, it's using the *threat* of rape cheaply! Until two episodes ago, at least.

If you have STARZ, go to Outlander and it's there, done in flashbacks in the final episode. Not dark like the one on youtube. I didn't watch the second-to-last episode.

It could not be more explicit unless it was pure porn. I was hoping it would be "hot." What might be a turn on - one guy walking right at you, dick flopping and another with the body-and-ass-of-the-millennium rolling around naked on the floor - it wasn't. Very well done though. Got to hand it to a couple of straight actors. You can almost smell the rats, sweat, dirt, cum, blood and shit.

" If someone had raped a virgin fifteen-year-old boy who'd grown up in front of a TV audience, I think the furor would be greater rather than lesser, as it would have more shock value."

Not if had been Frankie Muniz.

Hey, dont hate on Frankie. I loved watching Malcolm in the Middle.

I love their mom, reminds me of mine

Never seen this show before, but that guy is hot. Don't really think I'll ever watch it again.

I know this show is Frau-tastic, how are they taking this??

The people who are dominant in the media watch GoT but not Outlander, that's why.

I didn't like it. It was portrayed like the rapist was sexually attracted to his victim, when really most men raping other men is about power and dominance.

I've neither read the book nor watched 99% of the show, but doesn't Randall do all these things to Jamie because this was a time when "the love that dare not speak its name" really, truly dared not speak its name. I always thought of floggings in movies as subtextual expressions of the desire to touch another man that could not be expressed in any other way.

Going by r61's post, Randall is the schoolboy pulling Jaime's pigtails?

Who is Jaime, R62?

R50 did the rapist let Claire go free like he said he would?

" this was a time when "the love that dare not speak its name" really, truly dared not speak its name$"

I've read the spinoff "Lord John" mystery books, which I liked, and that's what they're like. Poor Lord John is always worried about discovery and discretion, and even though he doesn't get many opportunities to get laid he has to turn some down because there's not enough privacy or the guy isn't discrete enough (and one army guy who isn't discrete enough is discovered, and is quickly hauled off and executed by his regiment).

Of course the books are written by an authori who seems to like extending the sexual tension through the book, but she's probably right about how things were for gay men.

Yes, r64, Randall pushes Claire out a door that leads to the exterior of the prison, and locks her out. He then goes back to his business while Claire battles snow and wolves.

Why even bother to have sex in those days?

As someone earlier pointed out, between the foul odors, the uncomfortable surroundings, the lack of sanitation, lack of heating (who wants to have sex in the cold??!!) and the overall fear of homosexuality in those days, being gay and having sex seems like an awful thing.

Personally, I'd probably be jerking off every day.

Has Claire really gone back in time, or is she hallucinating the whole thing?

I'm asking because the rapists is played by the same actor who plays her 1940s husband.

She really does go back in time through a circle of standing stones in Scotland. The rapist is the ancestor of her 1940s husband.

It is interesting jow they make efforts to avoid being homophobes. At one point, in an earlier episode, Jamie tells Claire that when he was a prisonner 4 years earlier, Randall had offer him a deal: if he wished to prevent a second brutal whipping on an already sore back he should give himself over to him

Jamie said he considered it briefly, but siad no cause he could imagine his proud father's ghost being there watchcing. He adds : " It's not about going with a man. My father would not care one way or another. It's about surrendering, being broken by an English. " or something to that effect.

I see a new story line for "19 Kids and Counting..." in which Josh dejectedly returns home after resigning his job in DC to an unwelcome surprise in AK...(cue Janna with a strap-on...)

Their second go at it was kind of sensual and hot.

OHHH good Lord.

My MOTHER told me all about it help me Jesus.

I do not watch this show but she thought i needed to know all about this.

Men can't be raped. Men are the willing aggressors in society.

[quote]'Their second go at it was kind of sensual and hot.'

[quote] Their second go at it was kind of sensual and hot.

I agree. Jamie's expressions looked like he was really enjoying getting it from behind.

The second time was definitely consensual, and he liked it. He even wanted Jack Randall to kiss him, but Randall pulled away.

Don't be a victim, r11.

R76

The two actors, Sam and Tobias, look really hot together off screen.

Is Jamie's hair red?

I've read all the books and am watching the series. I think they are doing an excellent job. The ratings are actually really high and I know a lot of people who watch it who haven't read the books. The second book (next season) begins with Claire in the 1960s with a child and without Jamie. So the time travel stuff is revisited and we find out why she went back to the "future" and ended up 20 years past her time.

R78 thanks for that. I knew Sam was hot, of course, but didn't realize Tobias was pretty good looking himself.

Everyone I know who watches it, shall we say, skews a bit older than the coveted target demos of TV. TVByTheNumbers confirms this. [quote]I've lost count of the times the female lead has been raped, or attempted raped, or sexually assaulted. It's a one trick pony.

Rape is a shitty plot point almost all of the time. It's rarely used to further a plot that wouldn't have been furthered just as well in some other way.

R82

Claire has never been raped.

I think rape, attempted rape and violence towards women was common back then. Women were thought of as chattel. They had no rights at all.

[R81]

Yes, Sam is really hot and beautiful and Tobias is charming, Both have chemistry together.

I hope that next season, we will see how Jamie deals with this.

And if Black Jack survives......

[quote] 'Jamie's expressions looked like he was really enjoying getting it from behind. The second time was definitely consensual, and he liked it. He even wanted Jack Randall to kiss him, but Randall pulled away'

Outlander homophobic fraus and fangirls are scared of Jamie turning gay/BI........

'Sam Heughan ('Outlander') on being tortured, raped and broken '

Sam Heughan in "A-Very-British-Sex-Scandal".

It seems he has played mant gay roles, even on stage.

He's hot as hell and a very good actor.

Even the 'Outlander' fangirls have heard about the gay rumours... They try to ignore them fabricating a fake romance with his co-star, Twilight style.

The two actors are hot as hell, r89, but that play is ridiculous.

How can anyone pay attention to the dialogue, whilst the two hot guys are making out and groping each other in the foreground? It's so distracting!

That play looks awful.

All Sam Heughan scenes in interesting docu-drama 'A Very British Sex Scandal' about the struggle of gay men who were tried for "buggery" in the 1950s.

I think he looks hotter now.

The second time, when it feels good for Jamie and that Jack tells him to imagine he's his wife, and to call him by his name, doesn't Jamie at the end of the scene calls him Jack, just once? And that is when he knows he has been broken. He is ashamed to have taken pleasure with the enemy (and with a man ?), but he couldn't help craving the pleasure after so much misery and physical suffering.

Claire has been raped a couple times. Once by a pair of soldiers. Her husband showed up and shot the I think

Then she as raped by Black Jack.

It either happened or threatened to happen, so often, I'm finding it boring.

Claire has never been raped and ofcourse, Black Jack didn't rape her.

Black Jack tried to rape another woman but he couldn't get hard and the woman started to mock him. It seems only Jamie excites him.

Claire is raped in a later book. She is kidnapped by a group of men and raped. Jamie and a group of men follow the kidnappers and end up killing most of them. Almost all the characters in the books have been raped.

[quote]The two actors are hot as hell, [R89], but that play is ridiculous. How can anyone pay attention to the dialogue, whilst the two hot guys are making out and groping each other in the foreground? It's so distracting! That play looks awful.

LOL

WOW...

I was surprised that the actor that play jack black is a hottie.

Jack kissing and licking Jamie's back scars 'It's a masterpiece'......

R93 I don't think Jamie called him Jack during the 'broke' scene. Anyone remember?

Emmy First-Timers Who Better Get Nominations Sam Heughan, Outlander 'In what was perhaps the bravest performance of the year, Heughan's portrayal of strapping leading man-turned-tortured rape victim floored viewers and critics alike. His ability to accurately portray the devastating after-effects of sexual assault, as well as, on the flip side, some intensely romantic scenes (with TV wife Caitriona Balfe) was stunning.'

[quote] I was surprised that the actor that play jack black is a hottie.

Yes, he is. And Sam Heghan is hot as hell. The leading female however, is very unlikeable and not a good actress.

Damn r98 that looks like an oil painting or something.

How did Jamie get the scars on his back?

Is the Outlander book series finished, or still ongoing?

Jamie is fucking hot

Sam is gorgeous. I saw that British tv thing yesterday and he's damn attractive. I might have to buy the show on my Apple tv.

He looks so, so different with his hair all curly and wild vs. how he looks in those different interviews.

The show is geared toward a female audience. Not criticizing, just saying. Jamie is a female fantasy - sexy, virgin, loyal, strong, innocent Scottish man. The female protagonist gets to have great sex with him and mother him when he's hurt. He is the opposite of the "modern" educated man Frank, with whom she has sex in order to avoid their problems without being able to conceive.

I know people say this story is just about time travel, but to me it seems obvious it's a female's fantasy of escaping into a fantasy world where she has more control over things and gender roles are more defined. In the 1940s Frank is the one who has the advantage and Claire is stuck in a marriage she is no longer interested in. In the 1700something she is forced into marrying a gorgeous innocent man she can control and her healing knowledge is highly valued.

Frank raping Jaime is how Claire feels about her situation in the 1940s. Fantasy Jaime represents everything she wants, while Black, who looks like Frank, represents everything she has in modern reality.

[quote] Damn [R98] that looks like an oil painting or something.

Caravaggio would have loved it.

R104

It's a series of eight books written by Diana Gabaldon. This season has just been the first book.

Black Jack made Jamie those scars......

Thanks r108. Why does Black Jack have it in for Jamie so bad? B/c he's attracted to him?

I didn't see this season when it aired, but I'll definitely check it out. Will there be a Season 2 later this year?

They're already filming season 2.

Yes, he's attracted/obsessed/in love with Jamie in his twisted way .

R106

I haven't read the books so I can just judge the series.

In the series Claire wasn't shown to be unhappy with Frank. They seemed very happy.

I also disagree about gender roles. In the '40s she had autonomy, a career, respect. In the 1700's she's viewed as chattel.

I haven't read the books either, I watched the show after this thread came around.

In the show, Claire says that after not seeing each other for 5 years they were pretending like nothing was wrong and had sex to avoid talking about their problems. She was clearly unhappy with the marriage.

Also in the first episode she is shown getting pushed over by a male doctor when we expect to see a heroic moment of Claire saving a soldier. In her marriage post war she is following Frank's academic career, we never hear about what she wants to do with hers. In the 1700whatever she gets to turn the tables and be in commend when it comes to medicine, like with the priest.

Her conflict about being a bad wife if she wants something different than following Frank is resolved in the 1700. Jaime is the loyal manly protector and she is the healer and the one with the knowledge of things to come.

Of course, we are all free to read things differently. What I found interesting was that in a show aimed at women there is such a detailed male rape scene.

If someone hasn't watched yet the male on male sex scenes from Outlander, here are a lot of caps. You can tell that the second time was consensual and that Jamie enjoyed it.

Anyone has the whole vid?

R113

The whole video is linked in this thread as well as the original thread about Outlander.

I don't believe Jamie enjoyed Jack fucking him. If you watch the scene by the end he's delirious and Jack tells him he's his wife.

Jamie's been tortured, beaten and raped more than once by this point. In his eyes he sees Claire and that's where his pleasure comes from.

And Black Jack got what he wanted. He wanted to break Jamie. That has been his goal for several years.

Black Jack is a sadist. I don't believe he fucks men or women for pleasure. He does it to hurt and destroy them

I need to put closed-captioning on to get through those accents. That's due to a dozen years of clubbing, and bad hearing-related genes.

R114 His wife with a penis........??? Jamie admitted to Claire that Black Jack made love to him and he enjoyed it.

Yes, Jack Randall is a sadist but also has preference for men and especially, for Jamie. He couldn't get hard when he tried to rape Jamie's sister. With Jamie, he didn't have that problem.

So, of the seven books, how many is Black Jack in? He doesn't seem like a character that would make it until the end...

I think Black Jack is in the second book too.

I don't like Sam Heughan new look., he looks too femme and delicate. He's hot as hell whith darker, shorter hair and stubble.

With his mother at Edimburgh Film Festival yesterday.

Watched the whole first season and those last three episodes were stomach-turning. Those rape scenes went on forever and were so unnecessarily graphic and brutal and added little if anything to the story. Brief flashbacks with Jamie talking about it would have sufficed. I don't love that their only gay character is a psychopathic rapist.

R113 he doesn't enjoy it and it's not consensual. It's an awful scene, he bursts into anguished sobs right after and has panic attacks about it for the rest of the episode and in the books it severely fucks him up for decades.

Unless you too are a sadist, it's not hot and it's not gay positive.

SPOILERS:

There's a very popular gay character who turns up in book 2 and becomes a very good friend of Jamie: Lord John. He even gets his own book series he's that popular. I'm excited who they will cast for this. The character is only 16 years old when he meets Jamie, I think. Interestingly his introduction is the same as the one with the young British soldier (I forgot his rank) who thought Claire needed help when he saw her with the Scots. The actor was really cute.

No one here is defending rape and I don't think anyone is a sadist.. We're analyzing some scenes portrayed in a TV show.

And it's very obvious that the last scene is purposedly filmed in a very sensual way, almost like a 'seduction' and yes, Jamie is pushing back -look at his arm holding back BJB- and yes, he has an orgasm. Later, he admitted to Claire that BJB MADE LOVE to him....and he's ashamed of his reaction. That's why he sobs.

It's a very ambiguous scene.

It's only ambiguous if you don't understand that it's common for rape victims, especially men, to react to stimulus against their will and also don't understand that's not consent.

Jamie is written as not understanding those nuances, being from his time. This is why he believes he cheated on Claire despite also saying that the only reason he went along with it was because it was such a relief to feel something other than pain. And this is why the episode had Claire explicitly telling him it wasn't his fault and he only did it to survive.

I've heard they're going to age up that character slightly for the show, R121.

Thanks for the info, R123. Can't wait.

R121

Earlier in the week EW.com announced the casting of a role for Season 2 that must be that character. The actor looks approximately 20-21.

They also announced an older character. The guy looked in his 30s.

I've not read the books so I had no idea who the characters were.

[quote] It's only ambiguous if you don't understand that it's common for rape victims, especially men, to react to stimulus against their will and also don't understand that's not consent.

That's Outlander fangirls mantra. They don't like 'the man of the dreams' Jamie, looking gay......... Once again, it's a very ambiguous scene and everybody is entitled to their own opinion.

R125 , They have cast BJB's brother. It may be that guy who looks in his 30.

It's not Outlander fangirl mantra that people experiencing response to stimulus isn't the same as consent during rape. It's just basic biology.

It'd be great and groundbreaking for Jamie to have actual same-sex love interests and lots of hot gay sex, but that wasn't it. And portraying their only gay male character so far as a predatory mentally ill rapist is fucking tired.

It watched it on demand and, while disturbing, it was also totally hot. Sam Heughan (?) is a hot piece.

R128, you are totally right.

The thread about Sam Heughan has just been disappeared........

Can anyone start a new thread about this hot Scottish and his gayness?

r130 The thread is still kicking.

You know, in Europe we have plenty of movies about or with sex that is graphic. Interestingly, violence is not a favorite association. I see that in the US, sex is often associated with violent behavior.

R138 You think that narcissistic man would shut down a thread about himself? That would so not be like him.

I have no idea why R133 was posted on this thread. Is DL glitching ?

Outlander fangirls are up in arms.

There's a new interview with Diana where she talks about the last episodes and says that the first take on that was that Blak Jack would come in, profess his love [as in romantic love] for Jamie and urge him to elope with Jack . They'd flee Britain and live as lovers in the Continent. Jamie's rejection would then ignite the rough stuff.

Are you serious, OP? For a while, no one would shut up about it.

Any other shows with male rape ?

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Have they scrubbed the rape scene off the net ? I cant find it anywhere! link somebody ?

r 139 is right.

R139 Here:

With a cock that small it's less a rape than an ass scratch.

Thank you R141 !

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