Rudolf Nureyev- who had him?

He claims he slept with Fonteyn.

She laughed that off.

I'll tell you who. Notorious uber-cunt Lee Radziwell. She moved him into her long-suffering second husband's house as a 'lodger' and tried to fuck him. And succeeded, once.

Rudi, limelight thief

Who didn't?

We changed in different dressing rooms in a men's store on Greenwich Avenue one fall day in 1976. He had a long, pretty dick. He was wearing tights and he took them off. I was too shy to reach out and touch him.

You silly thing, R5

Stunning.

I know, R6. Those days, I figured, oh, well, I'll see him around again. Plus I was crazy in love, and that day I really needed to try on clothes because I'd just landed a new job.

My god, he was beautiful.

David Ehrenstein was known for chasing him at the Continental Baths in NYC.

It looks as if Tab Hunter had him.

I had him!

According to rumor, Sen. Robert F. Kennedy.

Was he of the Je wish persuasion?

R14 Are you blind?

Do you see a foreskin, R15? I don't find it's that clearcut, so to speak.

Any nudes of Misha?

Rudy was gorgeous but Misha's thighs and ass were the most perfect things I ever saw.

Sadly I only saw them in tights.

I think that "Muppet Show" sketch was the only time in my life I really wanted to be Miss Piggy,

The Sauna.

R14, Nureyev was a Mus lim Tatar from Bashkortostan, an Is lamic region conquered by the Russian empire.

I knew someone who worked at the Met when he came to dance. Said his dealer would bring his weed to the theater and he would caress the faces of the better looking young guys.

That's all I got.

Rudy liked the baths so many had him. I had a very attractive friend who met him at the baths in NY. Rudy was a bottom. My friend spoke glowingly of the meeting. Sadly they both died of AIDS and I sometime wonder if thier deaths were directly related.

Valentio

Is there anybody Tab Hunter didn't hook up with?

R20, please fuck off with your oh-so-clever "Mu slim" and "Je wish" bullshit.

Go away and crawl in a hole.

He was dating a friend of mine who feigned illness one evening and headed to the baths instead. There he ran into Nureyev, and that was that.

R16. Rudy is intact. His foreskin is clearly visible. It's just retracted some.

Nureyev was half Bashkir, half Tatar. His father was a political officer in the army, which meant a hardcore party member of some rank. When Nureyev was living in Paris after he defected, his mother called him, begging him to return and telling him all would be forgiven. Calling the West at that time could only be done with KGB approval, and Nureyev asked how she knew where to find him. His mother did not answer.

Nureyev, like most Soviet born dancers, started with folk dance. He said his father used to beat him for dancing, telling him he'd end up a drunkard. Nureyev was not dissuaded, and in his forties, stated he was happy his father beat him, because it toughened him up, and dancers have a hard life.

It is rumoured he was Ninel Kurgapkina's lover, and she pushed for him to become lead dancer at the Kirov. It is also rumoured that he was the lover of the head of the Kirov Ballet, though I can't recall his name offhand.

Thanks, R27. That's the same pic I posted.

From various stories I've read about his bathhouse escapades, he had a voracious sexual appetite. He was frequently seen laying stomach down in his cubicle, inviting guys to fuck him. As soon as they got off, he was on to the next conquest. He was a total bathhouse slut, in other words.

Allan Carr had a famous Mattress Party at which Nureyev lay on his back on the floor of the guesthouse and welcomed all who wanted to fuck him.

While it is not good to speak ill of the dead, when it comes to Nureyev and sexual conquests probably the better question would be who *didn't have him*.

If you want the real inside dirt best to track down this guy:

Interesting article, R32. Thanks for posting it.

I think Nureyev was heads and shoulders above Baryshnikov in execution, and talent. There is no comparison. Nureyev's spins were perfection.

Sad thing with Baryshnikov is his ballet career in the "West" was cut short by injury.

In terms of hotness Alexander Godunov always did it for me more than RN or MB. The man apparently was a hot mess....

British (Scottish) actor John Fraser had him. Fraser found Nureyev's hygienically-challenged scent "sublime," often making love after rehearsals or a performance without benefit of a shower.

Yes, he was gorgeous.

I think he wanted to deny he was gay, and that was the basis of Godunov's problems. Homosexuality was tolerated in the dance world in the USSR, but gays were sent to prison for having sex, and Russian society, in particular, was very anti gay, although there were gay bars (unofficial) in Moscow.

"Nureyev's spins were perfection."

And how!

WAS, r36?

Have you been paying attention to what's going on in Russia?

Nureyev and the great love of his life Erik Bruhn.

Of course I have, R38. However, I wanted to put it in the context of Godunov's life.

Had Nureyev stayed in Russia, he would have been able to live his life as a gay man, because of his talent, the fact he would have lived in the dance world, and the strength of his personality. I think Godunov struggled more with accepting who he was.

bump

I think Godunov was bi-sexual.

He had romances with Jackie Bissett and Loree Rodkin.

I'm glad I stayed away from them gay Russkies!

“Nureyev was sexually insatiable,” noted Dominick Dunne. “For one party in his honor, Allan hired a hustler for every room in his house so Nureyev could be serviced on the spot, if he so chose.” This is what came to be known, unofficially, as the Nureyev Mattress Party, which might have been payback for all the women Rudy had to dance with on that previous evening. From the Daily Beast link, lol

'Allan welcomed his Russian guest of honor to (a) fete with an abundance of Beluga caviar, Stolichnaya vodka, and Hollywood rent boys. Curiously, it was the latter dishes that Nureyev never got around to sampling, although other guests made quick use of them. At one point in the evening, producer Howard Rosenman wondered when he was going to see, much less meet, the world’s greatest dancer. Then he heard someone cry out into the jasmine-filled night air, “Nureyev’s getting fucked in the lanai!”

Actually, it was the cottage—the same one on the Hilhaven grounds where Ingrid Bergman and Roberto Rossellini kicked off their illicit affair in 1946. Rosenman estimated the line outside the tiny stone house, now being used as Allan’s office, at 25 men. He peeked inside the door. Yes, Nureyev was on his back, his heels banging away on a Smith-Corona.'

Sweet picture of Rudy and Margot in the wings in Paris in 1964, they received 89 curtain calls at the end of their Swan Lake

[quote]“Nureyev’s getting fucked in the lanai!”

I thought the gays usually did that in the fanny.

R46, I think you and I and scores of others all pictured Blanche's lanai when they read that.

Lol, R47. I know I did.

After Nureyev got off stage he had to get off. And often during intermission as well!

I know one of the innumerable who had him -- when he'd first escaped to the West, so he was not only dazzling but young. They ended up in Nureyev's hotel suite which was stuffed with flowers and invitations from society matrons. Nureyev fucked him stupid like the tarter he was. The fuck of his life. However he'd been dying for a shit beforehand and the combination of the tarter cock and the athleticism meant there was shit all over the bed -- which only seemed to turn Rudi on more and he kept pounding away. Afterwards the room looked like a crime scene. However he said Rudi just blithely closed the sliding doors and imperiously strode into the spare bedroom, leaving it all for the maids.

R49 that is disgusting.

Who lets a guy fuck him when he needs to take a dump?

There was a biography some time ago that claimed Nureyev and Mick Jagger had a fling.

I've always been too shy to be promiscuous. It takes me a long time to ask a guy out on a date. I was a psychology major in university so I've often wondered what goes on in the minds of guys who have multiple partners.

Anyone want to enlighten me? Is it a type of sex addiction? A bad childhood? A personality disorder?

What makes a man like Rudi (eg. a man with the world of opportunity and possibility open to him) lie down at a party and let total strangers penetrate him?

R53, he seems to have needed to be on show, for an audience, most of the time. Off stage, he was very flamboyant and opulent in his lifestyle, and in his sex life, well, he clearing was performing for an audience.

His father reportedly would beat him as a child for dancing, saying he would only end up a worthless drunk if he took up the profession. An amateur Freud might speculate that Rudy internalised his disappointment at his father's lack of support and pride in his superlative talents, by seeking his father's approval in endless strangers - whether audience members in La Scala or guys lining up to fuck him or cheer him on as he was fucked and fucked and fucked again.

[quote] Anyone want to enlighten me? Is it a type of sex addiction? A bad childhood? A personality disorder?

Can't speak for Nureyev, but for me it was growing up as an awkward misfit, the type who, in school, was always chosen last for sports teams by the hot team captains I secretly lusted after.

So when I hit my 20s, and was, by definition, attractive to some men, I was more than happy to accept their invitations.

Kinda like when Louise looks in the mirror and realizes she's a pretty girl, after years of being the wallflower older sister.

"I've always been too shy... It takes me a long time to ask a guy out on a date. I was a psychology major."

And sluts are the ones with issues?

[quote] I've often wondered what goes on in the minds of guys who have multiple partners. Anyone want to enlighten me? Is it a type of sex addiction? A bad childhood? A personality disorder?

I'm sure you don't [italic]mean[/italic] to sound so condescending, R53.

In my case, I moved to NY after college 75/RSD, and since it was 1975, everyone, it seemed, wanted to fuck me. My first roommate had me fuck him the morning after I moved in "so we can get the sexual curiosity out of the way ASAP." It was easy enough to pick someone up nearly every time I walked outside, usually to go grocery shopping on Broadway.

And then this bar named The Candle opened. It wasn't clone-y like the place with the peanut shells on the floor whose name I no longer remember. I used to go there and meet guys and some of them would want to see me again. One named David used to show up at my office (Mad/51) and want to go for a walk. Another guy used to show up in my office, and he'd get under my desk and blow me.

I'd never been so popular. Each of these two guys wanted to marry me, or whatever the 1970s equivalent would have been, but I was having so much fun meeting a new guy every other time I left the house, I refused to settle down. One of my roommate's friends was crazy about me, but I just did not want to stop meeting new guys.

Who knew? The next one might be even better than the ones I'd already met. And the ones I'd already met were hot. God, how I wish I could be with David again today. Beautiful face, oversized cock, and he was in lust with me?

The Upper West Side was a magic kingdom thenadays.

R54 - an interesting theory.

R55 - Many gay people feel like misfits growing up so I can empathize with you there. I'm curious - were you a shy kid? What about now - are you an introvert or extrovert? Thank you for sharing your story.

R56 - from what I've read over the years, shyness can be hereditary and it certainly is the case in my family. Three generations of men were/are shy. It's more of a personality type than a disorder but I guess it can become one if the shyness is so severe that it prevents someone from meaningful relationships. Thankfully, I'm not that far gone. I look at it this way: outgoing people feel alive when they interact with others. Shy people like me often find social interations exhausting so we use our solitary time alone to re-energize ourselves.

I always preferred the looks of Alexander Godunov. There must be stories about him too.

Try again

I'm doing now, what you did back then, r57--and I wouldn't have it any other way. Three guys want me to settle down and it's nice feeling wanted, but I don't want to yet.

R57 - no, I didn't realize I sounded condescending. I didn't mean to at all. It wasn't my intention to offend anyone. I'm just curious as to what makes some men behave the way they do. I've never lived a life of multiple partners so it's all new to me.

You described what you were like living in New York in the 70's. Has your life changed? Have you settled down now or has your 70's life continued as you matured? I have some friends that were quite promiscuous in their teens and twenties but found partners in their 30's and 40's and settled down. I don't know if it's because they outgrew that behaviour or maybe they just found "the one". It's almost like their different people than they were before. People can change so perhaps they are different now.

R53 / R 62, your premises are very loaded. You presuppose that what you (and, for that matter, I) find fulfilling is superior to a life characterized by a more open attitude toward sex and/or romance. You also assume that monogamy is a more mature approach, and that people mature as they age.

R63 is right. Some people do not mature as they age.

I know a few people in their middle age who live on pizza, pastries, and ice cream--all the stuff they lived on as kids. They never matured out of that taste. I think it is the same sexually.

R62, I "settled down" twice. Buried them both before I was 50. Two of the men I wrote about in R57 are gone as well. I haven't been as interested in sex as I once was. Someone once said, "We get 1,000 orgasms in life." I used all mine up when I was young, I think.

And I no longer live on W. 75th, in any case.

R64, I enjoyed my breakfast of eggs and asparagus today. I had pizza yesterday for lunch, though.

I find Godunov - and his hair- much less attractive. I don't actually find him attractive at all.

I know he wasn't a ballet dancer but for me in terms of sheer attractiveness Kelly has both Baryshnikov and Nureyev beat by miles.

A smile to die for and a body of perfect proportions. Look at him in the fantasy sequence dressed in black in The Pirate. Misha and Rudolf never looked as good.

Now if there only were some nudes somewhere...

Nureyev was gorgeous. Baryshnikov is hot. And Roberto Bolle is beautiful.

Got to agree with r67, re: Kelly.

But there was something almost asexual about him, for all his appeal. He was a beautiful looking man--but lots of light and little heat, IMO.

I read his (ex?) wife's (Betsy Blair's?) book just to see if there were any fantasy-launching tidbits.

R65, only 1000?????? That's only one a day for less than three years. Are you sure it wasn't 10,000? Even that seems like a lowball estimate. So to speak.

[quote]He was wearing tights and he took them off.

This doesn't make sense. As in his ballet tights? Why would a male ballet dancer go shopping for clothing still in his ballet tights? He had tights under his trousers?

I could understand a ballerina doing this, especially as she might have a Danskin bodysuit on with her tights, then simply added a wraparound skirt after practice, but a man keeping his tights on?

Performers, in general, usually immediately change from their stage, or performance, clothing afterwards. Rockers don't even keep their stage clothes on after a gig, they change, then go out to party.

Jerome Robbins, if the rumors are to be believed..

I want to know the tea on Rudy and Anthony Dowell. Supposedly Nureyev picked him out of the corps when he was only 18 and brought him to the attention of the Royal Ballet management, jump starting his career. Always suspected there was more going on there but I've never read any sort of gossip about Dowell whatsoever.

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R71

Lots of ballet and other male dancers do or at did wear tights under their trousers.

If you were in a hurry to get somewhere, only taking a break from classes, rehearsals or whatever it is not a big deal to slip on pants and go.

Of course it depends upon what sort of pants (skinny jeans probably won't work), and local weather (August in NYC may not be the ideal).

It was October or November, 1976, R75 R71, so forgive me if I left out any details. I was shopping for fall clothing. Skinny jeans were still only for women those days. I knew, and continue to know, nothing about dancers' outfits. He was wearing what I thought were called "tights." He kind of peeled them off from the waist down. I wasn't looking at them any longer by the time he got past his pubic hair.

Do you cunt a lot, R71? You're quite good at it.

R76 and his shyness in front of nudie Rudie is one of my fave DL posters EVER!

Didn't he give Jackie O AIDS?

Aren't you sweet, R77. If only I hadn't known who he was.

The guy with Aids did but he's dead now.

R76

Tights are basically nothing more than thicker pantyhose. Underneath you've got a supporter/jock strap. When you consider men once wore undershorts that reached nearly to the knee and or union suits it isn't *that* much different.

Cute video of Rudy and Margot arrested in S.F.

Love Rudy's wink at the camera.

Told this story on another thread here ages ago...

Went to a dinner party an older friend threw several years back. He had half a dozen other eldergay friends of his there - and it was great! Fantastic food, wine and company - and lots of reminiscing about the past.

One of them told the story of how Nureyev had broken his ankle on tour (must’ve been back in the seventies or early eighties? And I’m sure he said it was ankle - but could have been a similar leg injury). It supposedly got lots of press at the time. But the real story behind it was that Nureyev had been out trolling at a particulatly busy public toilet in a park downtown - and supposedly had fallen off a toilet pedestal while standing up on it to look over the top to check out the action in the the next cubicle.

Dunno if it was true or an urban myth - but didn’t want to investigate too hard. It just sounded so fabulous that I wanted it to be true!

R40, not only did Godunov have the relationships R42 mentioned, he was also married to Ludmila Vlasova, a Bolshoi ballerina who returned to Moscow when he defected in 1979. He begged her to come with him. For three days, the plane stayed on the tarmac with Vlasova inside while she debated her decision - it was a matter of huge international attention.

Bisset met Vlasova many years later after Godunov's death and said she thought Vlasova really was the love of his life.

R84, really sad..the way A. Godonuv died of alcoholism.

Could there ever be a another man as beautiful as Rudolf Nureyev? No.

Beautiful bod he had, but SUCH an ugly face.

R87, But his face had character. He wasn't conventionally handsome, but I thought he was gorgeous.

There will never be a man as beautiful as Rudolf Nureyev.

R87, R88, I think his face was gorgeous. The bone structure is exquisite. I think we are too accustomed to the Brad Pitts nowadays. Even Antonio Banderas is not as gorgeous as the young (30is) Rudolf.

I saw a movie called "Exposed" on HBO in like 1984 or so. Directed by J. Toback, who we now know is a big perv.

Exposed was a weird movie.. Rudy is kind of creepy in it. I think you get to see his naked butt.

I remember reading that the producers were hoping for a romance between RN and Nastassja Kinski, but alas.......

[quote]Almost everyone who describes Nureyev eventually compares him to an animal. They bore you to death with this, but it was true. He seemed an unleashed force, something undiscussable in the language of reason or morals. Friends of Nureyev have said how much he loved his body. His longtime masseur, Luigi Pignotti, said that what Nureyev really wanted was to make love to himself.

Nureyev had the oddest face, he didn't look like other people. He didn't even look like other Tartars, who tend to be darker and more Asiatic. Nureyev looked beautiful from some angles, odd from older, and didn't age well.

But he had so much charisma, poise, style, sexual magnetism, and STAR QUALITY that he could have looked like Edward James Olmos and still have been a sex symbol. Look at that news footage from the drugs bust upthread, he didn't move like other people, even checking out of the police station he held himself like the star danseur who was making the audience wait for his big move. There's been nobody else like him since Nijinsky and there hasn't been anyone like that since.

A friend and I saw a ballet documentary at the Thalia many years ago. It was about Maya Plisetskaya, entitled Plisetskaya Dances. Not long after, this friend and I got tickets for a mixed-grill ballet evening at the Met, some three or four shorter works, and Nureyev was in one of them.

At the Continental Baths, my friend encountered Nureyev himself, and because my friend was magnetic and hung, RN immediately demanded a fuck. After, my friend mentioned that he was going to see Nureyev dance in a few days.

"What ballet?" RN asks.

But my friend really didn't know what we were seeing, so just said, Plisetskaya Dances.

I know it seems lame, but I've always thought it a quaintly amusing tale.

They're both dead now.

I read this biography of RN a few years back, and do recommend it.

Or was this the book on RN that I read....Sorry not sure!

R93, Re RN not ageing well, hard to say how he would have looked if he hadn't had AIDS.

And in the video of them leaving SF police station, you have to love Dame Margot in her "full length ermine coat" with her radiant smile.

The Muppet Show was really amazing in its day! Not for kids!

They should release it on DVD!

But all the nasty sex and talk of not showering and taking dumps on the hotel sheets....call me Pollyanna Prisspot, but it kills my boner for him. Not every gay man has to like things like that.

R99, well he was from Russian (okay, Siberian?)

They are not going to be as clean as us folk from the good old US of A where the rule is a shower a day!

And the Village, too, R57. I was just out of the Army, had my own apartment. I wasn't shy nor was I outgoing or sluttish. I was just a man with homosexual urges I didn't fight. I couldn't go out for a loaf of bread without meeting someone, or get home from work. Never thought much of it. It was just sex. After about 15 years in, three boyfriends, I realized why it was so easy, it was because in one way I was everybody's dream. Always thought myself ok, somewhat a looker, just 6' even, blond, blue eyes, 39L Brooks suit off the rack. But often nights while many in the city were changing shirts in the mirror trying to get into something nice to go down to the Village and cruise in, hoping to met someone, there I was downtown and out on the streets. Just what people hoped to find, sex with a man and I had my own place to go to. Took me years to figure out why I usually never went home with people, I took them to my place. The bar Juius' was getting going, Christopher Street was fun, just crusing Greenwich Avenue did the trick. Never went uptown, the city was coming downtown to find something, and there I was. From time to time I'd really like a guy, we'd go round together a while, "dating" I guess you'd call it, a few months to a few years. Did the several years in the Pines, in time bought in the Hamptons. Always kept the apartment. I've buried about a dozen+ now. Even today "one from the past" will turn up via a letter or phone call. It's always good to see them and go over old times. 55 happy years goes by quickly.

I have to agree with R87. He and Boris Hvorotovsky had a rather simian face in profile.

I went to great lengths to disguise Rudi's simian jaws in 'Valentino'. I had to cast Leslie Caron and some American woman who had equally prominent jaws to match him.

Here he is in his apartment in Paris.

Anyone who had Nureyev is long dead of AIDS by now. He was first in line, well second behind me

I have often wondered that too R53

I'm far from a prude, I've had numerous partners, more than one in a day, you name it. But I don't get the appeal of laying down on a mattress and letting a line of random dudes pork you. I've always chosen the guys I fuck around with and even if they were Grindr hookups, the appeal of the chase always made it worthwhile, however short that chace may have been

^ The appeal was the wish for self-abasement.

He had a hollow rectum because his soul was hollow being bereft with the knowledge he couldn't live in the bosom of Mother Russia.

R101, I lived in the Village for a couple of years, too, 1976-1978. I wonder if we ever went home together. I hung out at the Ninth Circle more than any other bar, but found people to have sex with on the street most of all.

Was he cut or uncut?

R108 uncut

R101 sounds like an older gentleman who chatted me up @ Julius recently.

R108. Rudolph Nureyev's penis is intact. His foreskin is retracted a bit, but it is clearly visible. Click onto the photo, then click on it again to enlarge it. You'll clearly see his foreskin covering the coronal ridge of his glans.

R14 r15 There are uncut Jews.

Rudy had the perfect ass to fuck. Fucking him was hotter watching him huge cock cum while plowing him.

I wish I had Rudy. There are no stars alive today like him, hung, handsome and hot!

They don't make Russian men like they used to...

Rudy must have been hung 11 inches!

I've met two different men in Vancouver who claim to have sex with Nureyev in bathhouses in Toronto. At least one of them is still alive.

When Nureyev was in Vancouver he complained mightily about Vancouver's typical weather. A local journalist entitled his column "Rudolf, the Red, Knows Rain, Dear".

He was one of hottest and hungest of his generation.

R100, Rudy was Tartar. And he was Muslim!

R12, that is not RN in the pic with Hunter.

R51 You'd be surprised

I slept with Rudy in the 70's and he was pure sex!

Bump. Gorgeous man - face, body - all of it.

R123, I am reading "Dancing On My Grave" by Gelsey Kirkland.

Great read if you are interested in ballet.

She danced with Rudi, nothing more.