Was Michael Jackson transgender?

Yes

Not at all.

In private, he had a deep voice and was far more masculine acting that the femmy, fey whispery persona he put on to lull parents into thinking he was not a sexual predator.

No. In reality he was not transgendered. That was all an act. However, he was a pedophile.

No, he was an effeminate, homosexual pedophile.

R2 and r3, he had plastic surgery and wore wigs to look female. That wasn't an act. And he did not have a "deep voice"

He was an M-E-Double S-Mess.

He also had makeup tattooed on his face

R5, Lisa-Marie Presley, who knew him better than you, says he had a deep, normal male voice in private.

[quote][R2] and [R3], he had plastic surgery and wore wigs to look female.

That behavior does not make him transgendered, and you have no proof that he sought to specifically "look female." What we do know is that he wished to erase the features he perceived as inherited from his father, that he had a classic case of body dysmorphia, and that he was a bit self-loathing about his race and ethnicity. These things might have fueled actions that resulted in him looking more feminine, but they don't prove that he ultimately or consciously wanted to "look female." I think more than anything he wanted to look white, thin and "beautiful," according to his own warped perceptions and definitions of the word.

Are there any reports of him cross-dressing or expressing a desire to become female? We've heard so much more about behavior and statements far more bizarre, so it seems odd that such stories haven't come out If he was in fact transgendered and wished to be or become a woman.

He was an effeminate man with myriad eccentricities. That does not a transgendered person make.

R8, she's a liar. And a fake. And a scientologist.

I like the theory that all the facial surgeries weren't intended to make him look like a woman, they were intended to make him look the animated Disney version of Peter Pan.

He was attempting to look like a boy, not a woman, and of course that's impossible so he ended up looking like the Phantom of the Opera.

[quote]I like the theory that all the facial surgeries weren't intended to make him look like a woman, they were intended to make him look the animated Disney version of Peter Pan.

Then why did he end up looking like The Horned King from [italic]The Black Cauldron[/italic]?

No OP, Michael Jackson wasn't trans. But you already knew that didn't you. He also wasn't a pedo or a homosexual. But you knew that too. Racism alive and well here at DL. In other words business as usual.

So, by your logic, people who disdain Charles Manson are anti-white racists.

michael had kiddie porn in his mansion

What are you even talking about R14? Manson was crazy. He may not of killed anyone (White women did that-no surprise) but he is still crazy. Not to mention in jail for life. Trying to compare him to MJ is beyond racist and sick but that's what you all do here.

R13, what world are you living in? Of course he was a pedo. That's not racism, just the truth. Most pedos are white anyway.

Of coarse most pedos are white R17. No one is (or could) dispute that. White folks do all kinds of sick shit. So mentioning the obvious (how their pedos) doesn't hide your racism. Child molesting is just like racism in that it is a white persons disease. Not surprised you'd try and deflect. It's been white people's game for centuries.

[quote] how their pedos

Their pedicures?

He was a loony-tunes crack-pot in need of a good psychiatrist and some psych meds.

Women don't tend to lust after pre-pubescent boys, so I don't think he was trying to become one.

For a bunch of reasons, Jackson rejected masculinity and adulthood, and was drawn to femininity and childhood. Hence the gentle-seeming, high-voiced, boy-girl person he slowly and surely presented to us. Sexually, he was a homosexual, but one who was repulsed, to a certain degree, by adult males. That's where the little boys came in.

This whole transgender talk is making people even more stupid than they were before. No one is born "transgender" - if you have an operation of body modification, then you are transgender. He had mental problems and was isolated, who knows what went on in his childhood. He seemed to embrace androgyny and seemed to have pedo inclinations.

Diana Ross caught the fucker using her own makeup to transform himself into her image, so I'd say yes, OP.

yeah he was waiting for that new nose to come in the mail

Bump

He had so much surgery that one more to cut off his cock would not have been an issue.

If he had passed away I'd wager he'd have transitioned by now.

Who's the loon on here pretending he wasn't a child molester? GTFO at this point every one knows what went on with him

OP He was insane, but not tranny insane.

Isht jussht not true, honey!

I think he was trying to de-Joseph his facial features because of all the past trauma. Remember, he started performing at age 5 and was exposed to a lot more than any other 5 year old.

He seemed like the kind of person who had a very open mind about human sexuality but had to repress it because of the family upbringing. I just got the impression that what he saw in the real world turned him into a monster- his father cheating, his father berating him and beating him, seedy men sniffing strippers panties in the strip clubs where the J5 performed, seedy men leering over strippers, his seedy brothers bringing groupies and having sex with them in their shared hotel rooms. One of the brothers once shopped around a book proposal claiming that Joe Jackson used to take Michael to late night "meetings" with business men, after which Michael would be really sick and vomiting all the time.

I also believe he was a paedophile. He was probably one of those people who was abused as a young performer and continued on to abuse other kids.

Trans-no. Mentally ill-Yes

FWIW when police/FBI obtained a search warrant and raided Jackson’s mansion, by their own account the only porn that they found were a few magazines featuring adult women, i.e., for heteros. There was no child porn found. There were a few (two or three) coffee table art books (out of a collection of thousands of books in the house) that included some artistic nudes. The DA deliberately leaked the bogus kiddie porn claim in an attempt to taint Jackson’s jury pool.

R33 yeah just ignore the "lifesize doll children", the alarm on the bedroom, the pictures of him holding boys like lovers, the fingerprints of boys on those books, 5 male victims that had matching testimonies, the gifts thier boys and their parents, until punerty that is (then they were tossed aside), that staff never seen women sleeping in his bedroom with him -- ever (but he slept with one boy 30 nights in a row, with was verified), the correct drawing of his penis by one accuser, a sexualized mannequin of a woman right next to the bed....

Those with experience with predators are well aware they use adult erotica to groom. It's not unusual for pedos to have adult porn, or even have normal sexual relations with adults at the same time.

There's a lot of adults that love children, but don't spend the night with them in their beds (in a bedroom rigged with alarms). There's plenty of abusers out there that we know don't have hard evidence against them, but that doesn't make them innocent because accumulated evidence is damning, especially when there's testimony from victims themselves.

R34 Yet with all that and a jury pool that had been subjected to a decade’s worth of “Wacko Jacko is a Pedo” headlines, he was acquitted. There was never any “there” there.

[quote]r18 Of coarse most pedos are white [R17]. No one is (or could) dispute that.

Not in the Middle East they ain't.

[quote]Child molesting is just like racism in that it is a white persons disease.

Don't be a moron.

R13 - oh ffs, I absolutely have never met a black person who didn't say Michael was severely disturbed at the very least. Nobody cared about his race...that weird and race is the last thing on your mind.

R35 Lots of money can buy all sorts of things.

He was transracial.

Non-binary?

No, I really don't think so. Jackson seemed to be trying to do several things at once: change the person he was, make others see him as harmless and trustworthy, and also create a physical image of himself that matched an ideal he had created in his head.

If he'd been trying to look like a woman, he wouldn't have gone with the heavy eyebrows and overdone square jaw. He also always had five o'clock shadow. Personally I think he was trying to combine old fashioned masculine features with childlike eyes and ended up looking like a freak.

Was he transracial? Every comedian has joked about him looking like a white lady...but really, he looked like a white lady. Not a normal white lady, but a Bravo Housewife type of white lady.

And this is how he started—a far cry from a white lady:

The housewife who most closely adheres to Michael's aesthetics is Jen Shah.

R43 I think his endgame was more like Kyle Richards. Jen is too dark and her nose and lips are too bold for Michael Jackson's surgeons.

R44 I didn't mean to compare Shah's skin tone to Michael's. Shah has had over the top plastic surgery and looks like a alien - hence the MJ comparison. Kyle Richards has not turned her face into an alien mask - not yet. She still looks human so she is no where near the level of Michael and Jen.

Yes.

And (s)he threw the first brick at the Stonewall Riot.