What are your thoughts on Kpop?

can you stop posing "as an asian"? we know you are not, and the holiday is almost over, those "as an asian" threads are getting really old.

Thanks OP, that song is fucking HAWt! I put it on my download list. Thank you.

I'm really shocked at how much makeup they wear. Especially in their music videos. Still find it interesting.

QUE ?

errr... how come there's no outrage if American musicians do music videos with an old Arabica, Asian, or Latin America theme? Like Madonna and Lady Gaga, and blah blah. who cares

C. Everett? Best damn Surgeon General we ever had.

Much of it sounds very bland to me.

Bronze Age Gay, I came here to post something very similar. You beat me to it.

I love Kpop 2NE1 is my favorite and Big Bang. I can't wait for CLs solo alb this year.

I can't stand the way all of their dead come back as vengeful spirits. Doesn't anyone rest in peace over there?

I don't like OP's linked song, but I do like many kpop songs that are a bit quirky and original. Some SNSD, f(x) and 2NE1's songs are great.

I like the slightly older kpop songs better. Last year I only liked f(x)'s Red light and one super junior song, something with rain.

Would you prefer Asian people to try to act black, OP?

Or white people who try to act black?

Or white people trying to act Asian?

Sorry, Korea, try a bit harder.

Okay? Thanks. Bye.

R13 What the fuck did I just watch?

r8 Always room for one more. Climb aboard.

Fuck Bennett Cerf.

Wow... just wow.

I find a lot of East Asian pop acts, particularly the Japanese, a little too whimsical and cartoonish. Like they're overgrown children perpetually stuck in Hello Kitty / Anime mode. The pop act at OP's link at least looks grownup and not all cutesy-coo. At the opposite end of the spectrum are the P-pop (Pinoy/Pilipino pop) acts like SexBomb Girls, Viva Hot Babes, Kitty Girls, and Mocha Girls who try too hard to be slutty.

I think Jpop pounds really goofy. Some Kpop is very sophisticated.

I forgot how I found about this artist, CL from 2ne1, but I love this video. She has energy, swagger and a great stage presence. I appreciate that some of the lyrics are in English, so I have an idea what she's singing about. I find Asian rap/hip hop fascinating - two cultures meshing into great sound and visual.

Those male dancers behind her are hot.

R19 CL is set to make her American debut soon. Scooter Braun, who manages Beiber, is working with her.

I LOVE f(x), R11. Whoever writes for them is genius, because very song they get to perform is punchy, solid, ass-kicking platinum pop. Their choreo is far more interesting than the 'guy' bands, their lyrics are hilariously batshit insane and creepy, and they have a RAPPER. They change concepts all the time and always keep it fresh. I wonder how much creative freedom or input the ladies themselves get?

And ofc, as with any gorgeous women, much debate rages over which is the gay one. Consensus says American-born tomboy Amber, but I think that's too obvious (I think she's more bi or mixgender). If any, I think it's Victoria (at 0.32 in the clip, leggy Chinese model with bangs/the only one that can dance), on account of all those rumours about her shacking up with Zhang Zihi on that movie they did.

Or it's Luna (at 0.36, short, bad blonde dyejob, 'look-at-me' voice and attire). I get a big ol' Lez vibe from her, no str8 girl dances like that.

I don't know. I still get gay vibes from Amber. In SHINee i'm sure it's Key but i have a feeling Minho is SM's buttboy. He flirts with all his male elders. In VIXX it's obviously N.

Glad we have fellow KPOP fans here!

I find some K-pop and J-pop songs really good. But most mv don't make sense at all, it's like parodies.

K-Pop (and J-Pop) are absolutely dog vomit quality of song writing. Nobody will ever remember it.

The Dollarama quality mentality has hit global Pop music, like never before in history.

Amber says she likes men, but I don't know about that. I'm not sure if the tomboy thing is her shtick, or if she's really a lesbian. Like R21 said, too obvious.

Some former assistant that worked for SM said that Key is the gay one. Does Taemin ping to anyone else but me?

Is everyone in Big Bang straight? GDragon was in a blind item recently. He has a bad drug problem. Could he be a closet case? I don't believe that all the girls love him garbage.

I hate Kpop and Koreans in general. Yeah, some individuals are ok but most of those people are shady, evil liars. Their breaths reek of kimchi. They're the ugliest of Asians, which is why so many of them get plastic surgery. Their inferiority complex makes their personalities intolerable. They have no eyelids at all and the smallest dicks of any race. Just a bunch of ugly slit-eyed, pie-faced gooks.

I'm fine with all other Asians but Koreans should just disappear from this world. I hope Kim jong-un goes completely crazy and destroys that peninsula and all those ugly gooks.

Goodbye forever, R26. I love the ignore button.

I haven't heard much K-pop, but what I have heard sounds very generic. The same frothy synth sound again and again.

I recently read an article about what it's like to be a K-pop star. You're basically owned by the record label, constantly going on junkets, performing. Reminded me of the boy band system here. I wish I could find it again.

Is there goth Korean pop?

R26= Angry bitter hick from Tennessee.

R27 There is Korean Goth rock. Don't think they have Goth pop.

It was bad enough with the real programme major troll.

Now we have a very unfunny racist who thinks she's cute posing as the programme major troll. Shows how downhill datalounge has gone

I like ChiPop

so much hair

That child has dead eyes.

Hate it. Unfortunately, it's so popular with (white) Americans that you can't escape it. I'm looking at you Millennials...

R33 Teddy Riley, from the R&B group Blackstreet, writes for kpop groups. Blame him.

R25 I thought everyone in BigBang was straight too, until someone randomly posted on datalounge a few years ago that he slept with T.O.P.

A few days later the OP retracted and said he just made it up. The whole scenario was odd because it was KPOP (which was not popular in the west at the time) and datalounge.

I never looked at him the same way again.

R35 I remember that thread! Lol. I did take it as a joke at the time, because OP said it was a spoof of the Jani Lane thread. Well, until I saw those kissing his bandmates videos.

This is a massive thread on lesbian rumours in k-pop, some interesting tea in amongst the fangirling over basically sisterhood/friendship. Krystal of f(x) comes up a LOT, almost as much as Moonbyul of MAMAMOO. Some even think Moon has a huge lingering crush on Krys.

Thanks for the link, R37. There is a list of both female and male idols. Fangurls there are really going at it, lol.

Slightly other topic. K pop songs might be basic, but nothing is basic when it comes to putting on a show. These guys kill it when it comes to dancing.

The strangest thing is all of the guys acting all thug. It's laughable at times. Such cartoon of themselves.

Plus, why do all the groups have to have so many member in them? Some have 6 to 10 people. That's odd.

It's kind of like all the rappers we have here, R39.

Bigger groups mean more eye candy. Which means more fans clawing their way into concerts. Bad thing is you run the risk of having a fan favorite quit on you. Exo had 3 members quit, because they got tired of being treated like shit.

The great thing is that they churn out groups so fast, that you forget when a group disbands or lose a member. I was a huge TVXQ fan with all 5 members. When they split in half they were never the same for me. Ironically the Duo TVXQ are HUGE in Korea and Japan.

VIXX has replace them for me.

Can't believe Sulli finally left f(x). We still don't have the real scoop on what tipped her over the edge (unrealistic draconian work schedules aside).

At least it wasn't Vic, the true jewel in the f(x) crown. I need Victoria and Amber to hang out more again, my fantasy bank is overdrawn.

Btw their new album is great, they have a new dynamic. I would describe it as EDM/future-house, 60's vocals meets 80's production...sexy! Best cuts are '4 Walls' (single), 'Diamond', 'Rude Love', 'Cash Me Out' and the amazing 'X', which surprised me with it's maturity and playfulness.

Are there any gays in kpop? I'm not talking fanservice shit but ACTUAL gay men.

I wish Asians would stop dying their hair blonde, it doesn't look good on them, it looks weird.

I wish I were a KPop performer. I call it soda though. It makes me burp sometimes. You can get soda in a bottle but I've never seen time in a bottle from that old song. My dad is old. How many of you are dads? Dads are nice when they want to be but my dad never wants to be. I don't see bees flying around now that autumn is here. I don't like dark doorways.

I'm glad this thread has been taken over by kpop fans. Take that OP!

as for gay kpop starts, Jokwon from 2AM was photographed in a gay club in Thailand and if you watch anything he is in you'd know he's gay. Key from SHINee is obviously gay too tho I've never heard/read any rumors but I watched SHINee shows.

Thanks, R47.

ew wtf is kpop. kpop sucks ass.

R13 You took the word right out of my mouth, so WW for you.

What does Datalounge think of BabyMetal

R42 if Victoria doesn't like girls then what's the point.

How could Zhang Ziyi let a beauty like her get away, honestly? I mean, that FLEXIBILITY.

I'm white and I like some Kpop. I love BigBang, 2Ne1, Hyuna & 4mnute, Girls Geeration and Sistar.

I adore this song

Amber Liu had to deny dating Hyuna on the radio because so-called 'fans' expressed concern about it.

Sad, homegirl should date whoever she wants without apologising and if she gets a hottie like Hyuna then more power.

Omfg.

Kpop sum up as a cheap imitation of American hip-hop and r&b music. Most of those Koreans don't like blacks but they don't mind copying their style of music and dance. Most of you should watch those kpop videos there is a member rapping. It is all shameless ripoff of black music.

A lot of KPOP is so derivative of American music but always 2 to 3 years behind in trends. For instance, now they're really into "tropical house." which we're already sick of over here. In almost every KPOP song, you know exactly the song they're referencing.

Hyuna's "RED" was pretty original, so I loved it. But then "Roll Deep" was a rip-off of that whole DJ Mustard sound.

Like most "creative" or "innovative" things coming out Asia, 99% are cheap copies of stuff Westerners already came up with. The one percent is good.

R25, Could you provide a link to that BI ?

Wait till they copy Kendrick lamar new rap video filled with Asian women in fake stretch marks. Such copycats, it seems like they are obsessed with black culture while disliking the people that embody that culture. All they do is study American popular music and imitate what they just saw.

Lived in Korea. A lot of tourists were there because of Kpop. They were there expecting to meet a metrosexual stylish Korean guy, instead found dead-eyed salary men children of 30 still under their parents thumb... My problem with kpop like most pop it is simply a soulless money making machine. There is no heart or creativity to it at all. As for gay Kpop stars -- lol! Haven't you heard that there are no gay Koreans!? That's a foreign affliction. Koreans are super homophobic, racist, and frankly lack individual imagination. It is simply beaten out of them. You are watching a product and they are worked to the bone.

First time I ever saw them and I find it kinda hot.

There's no way missA's 'Hush' isn't about oral-anal. Part of the video even takes place in grimy shower stalls.

Also, it sounds exactly like a mid-period Girls Aloud record. It could easily have been the B-side to 'Something Kinda Ooh'. Still, fun track.

People should watch this if they want relatively original KPOP. Exid used to do pretty cheap sounding stuff but this new album is pretty great. Dreamy, yummy video.

wow no love for EXO in here or SHINee? LOL Anyway SHINee's Key use to dated the model Park Hyeong Seop. They didn't hide it, they showed up to each others events and were all over each others instagrams. SHINee members and fans were supportive. Sadly they broke up

Kind of random but GD liked some pics on instagram about bottoming

This war movie is pretty wrenching.

Southeast Asian Muslims trying to act black. Pretty catchy song though.

indeed, OP, all asian music should sound like this

Indonesian pop is way better than Kpop. This 2003 one-shot music video is charming and very well-done.

[quote]It's basically us trying to act White.[quote]

Does everything in this world created by white??

*Is...*

Southeast Asians are better artistes too. Actually Indonesians and Malaysians are better artists than the over-glorified Filipinos. Their language sounds much nicer and sexy than Tagalog.

[quote]I honestly find Kpop a disgrace to Asians in general[quote]

Fuck you Miley.

R25/R54 I don’t get how so many people can deluded themselves that Amber is straight or interested in men sexually at all.

My mind BSODs at it but apparently Amber herself still maintains in her own blogs that she has had serious ‘boyfriends’ (plural) in the past and that she likes it when men try to pick her up with lines and flirtation. I can’t picture any of this ever happening.

I love the group SsingSsing.

It's more like Asians trying to sound Black.

Rain-Bi sounds like Usher singing a recipe for Kalbi.

I like Faye Wong, incredible voice.

Plastic music to go along with plastic faces.

No thanks. Hard Pass.

Wonho

Wonho

R74 wins.

OP another ugly fat white fag pretends to be Asian. jealous much?

Why are the guys in the boy bands made to look like teenage girls? Is that attractive? For me it's a turn off.

KPop is great if you just take it for what it is- the boy bands emulate Michael Jackson and the girls take after Janet Jackson

I love Japanese punk bands but miss me with K-pop. That's them trying to do American pop and R&B and rebrand it for their country. That's why a lot of it lacks genuinity; because it's derivative.

Oh yeah, I forgot that punk originated in Japan, R84.

It’s not for you, Boomers.

It's like the only music that was sanctioned was Britney Spears, Jessica Simpson and Christina Aguilera.

[quote]Kpop a disgrace to Asians in general. It's basically us trying to act White.

No, it's Asians trying to act black or rather "black as demonstrated by music videos and hiphop 'culture'" as mentioned upthread. Note the clothing. 99% of the guys try and dress all thuggish but are betrayed by their delicate elfin features and natural femininity.

And Koreans are way too affected by Christianity; watching them is like watching a muslim movie. Never intense enough because of that stupid internal censor that all religious types have.

Look at the lyrics to Dynamite by BTS - it's like picked out English phrases and words that rhyme but have no context.

Shoes on, get up in the morn' Cup of milk, let's rock and roll King Kong, kick the drum, rolling on like a Rolling Stone Sing song when I'm walking home Jump up to the top, LeBron Ding dong, call me on my phone Ice tea and a game of ping pong, huh

Fall in love with Soobin 🥰

Why do we have to go to Korea for upbeat bubblegum pop? And we get Billie Eilish and Phoebe Bridgers?

[Quote] It’s not for you, Boomers

Lol you think only Boomers dislike it. I'm in my 20s and most people I know who read, play and write music hate manufactured pop stars. It's a matter of taste not generation. And Kpop only recently became mainstream.

On the positive side: Kpop stars do dress better than Western pop stars and their horrible 80s and 90s throwback looks.

LeBron Ding dong, Yep

Kpop doesn't click in The US/UK because we expect our artists to be authentic and unique. We only allow a certain amount of manufactured pop to exist and even then the pop stars are still expected to stand out and not be derivative. Of course many aren't artists but they still put on the image of being creative. That's why lip syncing and ghostwriting is controversial. There just doesn't seem to be a sigma in Asia towards being a pop puppet for corporations and copying the same formula over and over

For once, I am so glad to be an 'eldergay". My world doesn't even know that this sort of group is even a thing.

The only person I know who talks about it is a 53 gay white male friend who has a pretty weird Asian fetish, so my view on it is a bit skewed because of that.

Short answer: it’s creepy b

"Kpop doesn't click in The US/UK because we expect our artists to be authentic and unique. "

You're correct. Americans will NEVER take to music sung in a foreign language or groups who try to get popular in America, especially if they are Asian.

Imagine that. Brazilians singing in English and Korean. But, no one likes the music...................

"Kpop doesn't click in The US/UK because we expect our artists to be authentic and unique"

We love our sluts!!!!

I find that most of it is just an iteration of what I've already lived through 15-20 years ago. Of course, its primary consumers are kids who were too young for MTV TRL and such. Stylistically, I find a lot of Kpop like an IKEA table: it's a competent, efficient, disposable product, nicely manufactured and packaged but it's almost always a slight variation of the same table.

K-Pop and K-Pop fans get a total pass because of one thing that they did: derail Trump's big initial campaign rally. If the rally, held during the height of the pandemic had been successful, it would have been a triumph. But, the kids reserved all of these tickets and never showed up, humiliating Trump and his staff, resulting in firings and ridicule from the media. It was a great moment. " We're going to have a million at the rally." Inside : a cavern of empty seats, thanks to K-pop fans. From CNN:

"They've helped South Korean stars dominate charts and break records on social media.

Now, some K-pop fans are claiming another victory: helping foil United States President Donald Trump's return to the campaign trail.

Ahead of his Saturday night rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, Trump bragged that he had about 1 million RSVPs. But when the arena didn't even reach its 19,000-person capacity, many people online were quick to give K-pop fans and TikTok users at least partial credit for the low turnout. Prior to the rally, people on social media platforms TikTok and Twitter encouraged people to register to attend Trump's event -- and not attend. One video, with more than 300,000 views, called on fans of South Korean mega group BTS in particular to join the trolling campaign.

Following the rally, Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tweeted at Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale, telling him he had been "rocked" by teens on TikTok flooding the Trump campaign with fake ticket reservations. "Kpop allies, we see and appreciate your contributions in the fight for justice too," she added.

A great moment for all of us.

Wonho

OP, watch this video about " Spring Day," the song that caused problems with the Korean govt, and then tell us how disgraced you feel.