Diane Keaton Wishes She Were Married, Says She Tried To Make Al Pacino Her Main Man

Well, la-dee-da, la-dee-da.

I thought she's a lez.

She's still narcissistic and thinks the world gives a damn about her.

[quote]But I really wish I had bought myself a man!

Now there's a woman with great self-esteem! Then again, this is the same woman who thinks Woody Allen is a great man.

She's 68 years old and still pining for her boyfriends from decades ago. Sad.

[quote]Now I see what it really takes: real consideration that you're a good team together.

Now there's words to live by. Fortunately, nobody does.

Gratitude,

It's a memoir written in older age, R4, what's she supposed to do, write three hundred pages about next week?

These things typically look back.

R6 I wasn't talking about her stupid book; I was talking about the reason she never got married because she's stuck on past boyfriends who moved on long ago. Anytime she does an interview about romance or men, she always reminisces about the past rather than focusing on the future.

Diane should be grateful for the long career she's had. She can be funny and charming, of course, but lacks the versatility and genius of peers like Streep.

Diane owes a huge part of her success in films to the men she's been associated with: Pacino, Woody Allen, of course, and Warren Beatty.

Well, maybe she thinks she's too old.

[quote]Well, maybe she thinks she's too old.

Nonsense. There are people who get married even in their 70's.

Yes but most men want younger.

Agree with R4. She's a narcissist and a coward who should have cut ties with Woody Allen when he married his girlfriend's daughter.

Up until this years Golden Globes, I didn't think Diane still associated with Woody that much, if at all. She hasn't appeared in one of his films in over twenty years.

She's saying she wishes she had a man to assist her with parenting her two teenage kids. This is what happens when you adopt infants when you're in your 50s. There are things you can't delegate to nannies.

This remark is very self-aware. She's basically saying that she wasted her marriageable years on men who were glamorous, exciting and good for her career. She didn't think about finding a good life partner for her later years - wasn't practical.

She was in her forties when she hooked up with Pacino - tried to get married during Godfather III; he didn't want to.

A spouse is different than a lover - life partnership is the key, common goals for a life built together.

She was so beautiful in the 70s.

But she and Pacino had been together earlier as well, when they were making either Godfather I or 2 (or both?). Hooking up with Allen and Beatty were clearly careerist moves on her part, though.

Does anybody here consider Diane Keaton to be a great actress? How do you rank her among the other actresses like Spacek, Streep, Close, Sarandon and Jessica Lange?

Meh, she was alright looking. Passably pretty but nothing amazing.

She seems kind of lost as an actress and a person. I hope the kids have a good nanny and quality time away from mom.

1. Streep

2. Lange

3. Close

4. Keaton

5. Spacek

6. Sarandon

When Keaton is on, she's wonderful. She should have won the Oscar for Marvin's Room (she blows Streep out of the water) .

She is also terrific in the movie with Albert Finney where she plays the mother of three daughters. Her most underrated and un-Keaton like performance.

She did give a solid performance in Looking for Mr. Goodbar that hinted at more depth, but then she reverted to fluff roles.

Keaton ahead of Spacek?

I put Spacek after Keaton since Spacek can't do comedy, or has never really shown that capacity beyond mild comedy-drama.

Streep suggested Keaton for Marvin's Room, which was a great idea.

She claimed that she never argued with hetty child molester and moral degenerate Woody Allen. He must have been looking at his next girlfriend in the nearest junior high school playground to even give a shit about her complaints.

She's really good in "The Little Drummer Girl." The movie isn't much, but she's excellent.

Angelica Huston should be on that r21's list. Her performance in "The Grifters" trumps anything Streep has done.

Her insecurity has always been what I liked most about her.

It's too bad Pacino and Keaton couldn't make it work. Keaton is alone and Pacino is with some woman in her 30s. How sad of a woman do you have to be to hitch your wagon to a 75 year old Al Pacino?

This younger woman with an older, wealthy, famous man sounds normal to me.

R18 writes,

[quote]Does anybody here consider Diane Keaton to be a great actress? How do you rank her among the other actresses like Spacek, Streep, Close, Sarandon and Jessica Lange?

Yes. And Diane Keaton is better than Sissy Spacek, Meryl Streep, Glenn Close, Susan Sarandon, Jessica Lange, and plenty of others you did not list.

Sorry, but I disagree. Dianne Keaton gave some great performances, but that does not mean that she is a great actress or better than others cited. She has not given a great performance in the past 20 years.

I think she's a very good actress but she didn't stray terribly far from a core character type, did she?

I can't bear Woody Allen in any sense so have never seen her work from him. I find her quite likeable.

It must kill her inside that Pacino is with a woman half her age.

I don't like all those words on her walls.

She was a disaster in The Little Drummer Girl in a hideous piece of miscasting.

Boo hoo.

She could have found a younger guy when Something's Gotta Give came out. She looked great in that.

Something's Gotta Give was pure sci-fi. Like a woman would chose some one foot in the grave leach who slept with you daughter over a hot doctor played by Keanu (yes, I know he does not come off bright enough to be a doctor).

One of my favorite actresses. Definitely in my top 5 up there with Lange and Streep.

I loved her first book. A lot of people were disappointed it wasn't more dishy. It was a love note to her mother. It was pretty entertaining, funny, and quite moving.

I just preordered her latest book on Amazon..

Love her!

And her favorite film (that she starred in) is Somethings Gotta Give.

R18 absolutely. She's incredibly misunderstood as an actress, and part of that is most certainly her fault for perpetuating the stereotype of her la-dee-dah self both in interviews and the paycheck roles she takes, but when she puts all that crap aside she's as good or better than anyone. Plus, how many actors are equally adept at comedy and drama? You would have to go all the way back to Jack Lemmon.

I wish she would take a pay cut and do something great again. She deserves it.

I also appreciate her self- awareness which is rare in any person in this business.

Her twitter sucks though. It's like everything that is annoying about her - "look at my collages of pictures of doors! Isn't this fabulous!"

R33, eh, as if that woman is actually having sex with Pacino. I'm sure Keaton recognizes the relationship for the farce it is.

Diane Keaton has more classic films under her belt than Meryl Streep. (Meryl's filmography isn't that impressive when you compare it with her peers.)

She directed a film some years ago (plus some episodes of Twin Peaks). I wonder why she gave up directing. She did a good job with her film. She's a way better director than J. Foster, for example.

Really, r43?

Well, Unstrung heroes was great. I don't know why she did Hanging up. I suppose it's about what people are saying on this thread - Keaton should not be doing fluff, she has substance to do interesting work, both as an actress and as a director.

[quote]Plus, how many actors are equally adept at comedy and drama? You would have to go all the way back to Jack Lemmon.

Yes, hon, Jack Lemmon and Diane Keaton are the only two who can do comedy and drama in the past 100 years. How old are you, gramps?

R45, the reason why Keaton does fluff is because Meryl takes all the interesting roles.

There are a lot of sad bitter women out there in their 50's who missed their chance at being a wife and mother because there were "no great guys" out there etc. The reason they are alone is because they weren't looking for Mr. Right, they were looking for Mr. Perfect. When were were younger these women didn't want me, I wasn't rich enough or good looking enough, or not exciting. Now that life has passed them by and they are afraid of being alone I don't look so bad to them. Well guess what ladies, I don't want you anymore. I want what I always wanted, a family, and you are too old to give me children. I'm looking for a woman in her 30's who wants to be a wife and mother, who wants a man who will love her and take care of her. A man in his 50's can still do that. You women in your 50's who thought your shit didn't stink can take your dried up old ovaries and use them to plant petunias. Fuck you.

Perhaps they didn't want you, R48, because you sound like a bitter loser.

R46 that's the point, twink, you DO have to go back far because there aren't very many of them who can do both equally well. Many try but usually with mixed results. Almost all are exclusively pegged as one or the other. Get it?

And no, not M - yes she was great in Prada and she gives droll acceptance speeches but she's still hit or miss at comedy even after all of these years.

Who today? Ok, Roberts has Closer and Bullock now has Gravity, but they're still seen primarily as rom-com actresses.

R49 he sounds like that same great "catch" who kept hijacking the "Princeton Mom" thread.

Didn't she say in a interview a few years ago she loved Jack Nicholson. Not sure if she was being facetious or serious. This was after they did Somethings Gotta Give Were her and Pacino fucking during the first two Godfathers? Thought she was with Woody at the time or maybe she squeezed Al there in somewhere.

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[quote] She says she has a wall covered from ceiling to floor with 48 pictures of men

This is what I get from her Pinterest page. She's into design. She was into writing on walls, then dots, and now she's into photographs.

I think she's a smart woman who has a lot of other interests outside of film.

She and Jack would make a cool couple.

R48 sounds unhinged.

R52, I don't know the precise time line, but Keaton and Pacino were together at time of the Academy Awards in 1973 or 74, when Pacino was nominated for Serpico. They got back together around the time of Godfather III. I've always heard that the breaking point in that relationship was when Pacino knocked up his acting coach. In the link above, Keaton mentions that she was trying to land him for 20 years, so maybe they were on and off between the 70's and 90's.

I think one of the great travesties of the Oscars was their failure to award Pacino for Godfather II.

Finally

She doesn't seem to have a type at all. Warren Beatty, Pacino and Woody Allen could not be more different from one another. God knows what she saw in Woody Allen.

She actually sounds a lot nicer & less cocky now then I remember her in the 70s / 80s etc. But the wall of men, is that in her house or on pinterest? If it's on pinterest, ok, in her house...yikes.

[quote]If it's on pinterest, ok, in her house...yikes.

I don't know what's on her Pintrest, but she said this was a wall in her house.

Same here R40. I've liked her for years (20 years I'd say, I'm 35) and she got on my nerves after I followed her for a few days on Twitter. That's too bad, really. That speech from the Godfather II I still know by heart and is one of my favourite ever in a film.

She's amazing as Nina Banks in the two Father of the Bride films.

R60 maybe I'm gonna go to hell but I can't help but laugh at that speech. I never thought she was any good in that role - in the first movie she barely registered, and in Part II, where she got a chance to show her "chops" in a couple of scenes, I thought she was an annoying shrill nag. I was almost happy when he slapped her (and I'm a woman).

Just a terrible fit of actress and role, imo. I don't think she was ever happy doing the role, either. From what I have gathered in interviews, she's not fond of the formalities of how movies like that are shot - compared to working with Woody Allen, natch.

I hear a lot of people echo the thoughts of R62, that her character was an annoying and whiny nag. I've never understood it, I think I'd be whiny too if my husband was a mob asshole, but enough people say this that there must be something to the complaint.

Just watch the Father of the Bride movies -- Nina Banks is like everyone's dream mom.

I hate her "it was a son" speech in Godfather II. I find it forced and false although Pacino's reaction is so ferociously perfect that maybe they went with a bad take from her to keep a great take from him. She always seemed terribly miscast in those films. Frances wanted WASPy and got it but he could have chosen better.

I do love some of Keaton's other work. She was wonderful in Goodbar and in the Woody Allen films. She fucked up her career to be with Beatty right after winning the Oscar for Annie Hall. That was her big shot but she was sucked into Reds and Warrenworld for years.

Her best work as a director is a fascinating and charming documentary called Heaven. It's about people's ideas of what heaven is like.

I respect the way she's standing by Woody. She's always been a good friend to him.

Oh, dear to myself.

It's FrancIs.

R[48] kinda has it correct. As a straight woman who was looking for Mr. Right before settling, I feel pathetic for not giving the "good enough" guys a chance. But what would be worse, setting or waiting for the right fit? I've known a few guys like R[48] and I can say they were once good guys w/out the hangup but somebody fucked w/their heads and turned them into what R48 is. Sorry R48, not all of us were looking for Mr. Perfect. We invested in flawed men. Then time passed and we became 50 year old ladies w/no mans.

now back to Diane Keaton and her failed romantic dreams. Welcome to the club Diane!

Oh and one more thing, yeah, 68 is too old to expect the right guy to come along. Most men that age want 20 or 30's somethings. Once a bitch hits 40, it's over!!

Keaton should have taken what she had offered to her in her 40's if she was lucky enough to get offers then.

R48...? Straight men are now on DL? I find it hard to believe.

This read as a carbon copy to another interview I remember reading. I like Diane Keaton and know nothing about her personal life but this was a very gay interview. It hits all the "appeal to target demographic" points. I'm starting to get suspicious..

R68 in the real world, yes, but she's still Diane fucking Keaton. Obviously she would never be able to land a matinee idol, but I'm sure an older gentleman outside of the business (and I don't mean a fireman, but someone very successful) would be thrilled to go out with her. Or perhaps some younger gen x up and coming filmmaker type who is obsessed with all things 70s and kitsch.

When you're that famous you're always going to have a decent selection. We discussed this on the Whoopi Goldberg thread.

Worse case scenario, I'm sure someone at WME could set her up with someone.

I think some of you are misinterpreting her "wall of pictures" as frau scrapbooking. I read her last book and she talks about a life-long passion for collage as art. I believe she has exhibited and sold many of her pieces. So, maybe the wall of pictures is one of those.

[quote]68 is too old to expect the right guy to come along. Most men that age want 20 or 30's

Gross. No 25 y/o woman wants a 68 y/o man. That doesn't happen unless he's willing, to use Diane's words, to "buy" her.

R65 I hardly call doing Manhattan, Interiors and getting another oscar nom for Reds fucking up her career. She slowed down a little bit in the 80s but still had good films with Shoot The Moon, Crimes Of The Heart and Baby Boom.

She was also terrific in Marvin's Room.

Almost all men with enough money will happily buy a hot young wife. They are much happier with a hot piece of ass that they have to pay for. Who wants a dry, shriveled up, post menopausal woman??? Poor men, with no resources. Look at the clippers owner, for example. He would rather screw a young black woman, even though he is a complete racist, than his older Caucasian wife. It's sad, but it's the truth.

You know nothing, R74 Snow.

[quote]I think some of you are misinterpreting her "wall of pictures" as frau scrapbooking. I read her last book and she talks about a life-long passion for collage as art.

I think you are correct.

So no woman is worth anything after 40? Get married, poop out some kids, then kill yourself? Don't bother even sticking around until your mid-fifties to raise those kids, just let the trophy wife take over. (Yay for boarding schools!) God forbid any straight man should ever sully his eyes looking at someone he doesn't find sexually attractive. Shouldn't we also ban unattractive YOUNG women as well? What good is a pussy you don't want to fuck, right?!

Oh, and the same goes for old gay men, and non-twink young gay men. And attractive young straight men, because they are just competition for all of the old, washed-up straight losers who only want the world filled with young pussy to buy. Hey, who gives a shit about anyone who isn't glorious to look at and DTF every second of every day? Not me.

What is R48 doing on a gay message board on a Saturday night? He must be unhinged!

I was really sorry to see this. She seemed liberated and eccentric. Now she just seems desperate and pathetic. I've lost a lot of respect I had for her over this whininess.

I didn't say it was right, r79, but it is what it is. Every wealthy straight man that I have met (over 5 million in assets) has traded in for a younger woman. Some have not left their wives, and keep the young women on the side, but they are still there. I know 9 -10 men like this (I work in finance). It is always the same. No one wants to have sex with an old person, when they can have sex with a young one, but it is worse in hetero relationships because of menopause. Men who like pussy expect it wet and tight. A few kids and menopause ruin that.

Fuck off R74 you're the one who doesn't know her career. She wasn't exactly Halle Berry or Reese Witherspoon after winning. THEY fucked up their careers.

On a different note, her daughter is pretty (I believe she is a swimmer). It would not surprise me if her kids went to college and had careers outside of the film business.

I like this photo of Keaton and her son. I bet she's a good mother.

Who wants sloppy, loose, blown out old-lady pussy when you can get firm, tight, nubile pussy?

Sorry stinkfish, but you're only as young as your gash looks.

Surely you meant to write "a gash" in there somewhere, R86.

I liked the idea of her as liberated and eccentric, too, R81. Maybe this is just a bunch of bs put out for the masses to control her story before an unauthorized bio comes out that has a completely different story

All of her "poor me" shit is tiresome. No wonder nobody stuck around.

Diane adopted her kids late in life; Dianne Wiest is another one who adopted "late" and has unfortunately had publicized troubles with her daughter.

I will say Dianne is typical of the babyboomers for whom their career was EVERYTHING. However I don't understand why people are upset with her remark. Isn't she allowed to be lonely?

[quote]However I don't understand why people are upset with her remark. Isn't she allowed to be lonely?

Absolutely. But her whole longing for the past is tiresome. It weird for her to keep talking about men who moved on decades ago, or in some instances, were never even involved with her (Sam Shepard). Like someone said earlier in the thread, she wasn't looking for Mr. Right, she was looking for Mr. Perfect, who does not exist.

[quote]she wasn't looking for Mr. Right, she was looking for Mr. Perfect, who does not exist.

Aren't we all?!

You won't find Mr. Perfect with smelly, droopy old-woman beef curtains.

I never knew Diane Keaton was so interesting to gay men. Was it "The First Wives Club" that got your attention? This thread is on fire.

Well, tbf, she could probably get old drunk Sam Shepard now. He does NOT match the pic on her wall though. He's pretty horrific looking. And Clint is taken, I'm sure a photo of the young gorgeous Clint is up there too as well as Steve McQueen.

It's pretty obvious that she used Allen for the part and the fame. She actually "fucked for a role" because she's never been interested in him.

"This thread is on fire.........."

Did you even have to ask why??

DL is overflowing with bitchy but fabulous gay men in their late forties and older who are, and will always be, single.

Why the hostility toward older women? If any of you actually bothered to read what she had to say, she says that she regrets looking for Mr. Perfect rather than Mr. Right and ultimately didn't want to be with a man she could actually attain (hence chasing after Pacino for 20 years). How does this make her "unliberated"? For one, she says that she hasn't had any cosmetic surgery despite her insecurities.

She admits in her first book that she only felt valuable as an actress and person if she was attached to a famous man.

Has she thought of having a "rejuvenation" procedure?

[quote] So no woman is worth anything after 40?

No

After 50.

Dianne Weist's daughters look like thugs.

Newsflash for R82, those old men in your fake anecdote don't have a net worth of 5 million. Their net worth is only $500,000 after we get the rest.

Oh, and you are deluded if you really believe we even WANT to have to service their old asses (balding, pot bellies, bad breath, saggy balls, dandruff, etc.). We're glad someone else is doing the heavy lifting (you for instance) of having to suck their dicks while we get to keep all the money.

I love Diane Keaton. She's a fascinating woman and a great actress.

Love Diane in "Shoot The Moon" with Albert Finney.

Stockard Channing must be ranked right up there with Lange, Keaton, Streep and Close. Channing is one of the best actresses of her generation.

I agree, r104. She'd be a good choice for a career revival on American Horror Story. I remember she did a pilot for a supernatural series a few years ago, but they didn't pick it up.

I agree r104. She was magnificent in Six Degrees of Separation. And I love Albert Finney too r103, speaking of people who should have won Oscars.

I actually remember reading that Keaton and Finney had an affair during that film, but she never brings it up - I'm guessing because he is so private? Who knows. Good movie, though.

This thread also reminded me of the celebrity whose eating disorder I had read about - I can't remember what the subject matter of the DL thread was (it wasn't strictly about eating disorders, but somehow they figured into discussion), but I wrote something to the effect that I didn't know bulimia could really be that severe - it truly nauseated but also frightened me. It sounded worse than all but the most severe forms of anorexia, not to mention all but the most severe of drug addictions. It's a miracle anyone could survive that, really. But I can't imagine how disturbed someone would be to have to engage in such behavior - I mean in a self-loathing kind of way. That kind of convinced me that her self-deprecation thing was more than just her schtick. Well, I'm glad this jogged my memory - it bothers me when I can't recall something completely.

On the upside, certainly no one can accuse her of glamorizing her eating disorder. Although after reading that exerpt - wherever I initially read it - I didn't exactly feel a need to read the book.

[quote]So no woman is worth anything after 40?

I think 33 is the limit nowadays.

Anyone here have gossip on Al Pacino? Keaton has sure aged better than him, but the man was gorgeous in his prime.

I think that Diane would have little trouble finding a mate (celebrity or non-celebrity), but she has closed herself off in a way by pining over past loves/lusts. She seems like a sensitive person who feels things deeply, and sometimes that can be a handicap (I'm that way too, so I know that it doesn't necessarily get you anywhere). She is an accomplished Oscar-winning, millionaire actress...how many people can say that? Not saying that makes her superior, but she is far from a loser! Wonder if Pacino is honored she spent 2 decades trying to land him?! (If that ain't high praise, I don't know what is).

Most of her youth was consumed by bulimia.

She says in her first book that part of her appeal to Woody Allen was what he thought of as her independence. She admits now that she needed privacy and her own apartment for her bulimia rituals.

She'd be perfect as Miss Havisham in a remake of Great Expectations.

R62 and R63, I wonder if reaction to her role in Godfather has something to do with one's own cultural background. One of the reasons why I love the Godfather II is that it so resembles what I grew up around. Not that I like it, it's what I know. I come from a European latin family that sometimes functions like the mafia (I say "sometimes" because I don't like to think about it too much, and also because my father married outside of the group, sort of like Michael does with I forget Diane Keaton's name - Kay).

In any case, for women who have never known this sort of environment at all, perhaps it's just very boring to watch. I might be wrong.

R38, Keanu undoubtedly went to the same med school that trained Nicole Kidman as a neurosurgeon. (I think the Dean was the Wizard of Oz.)

Don't forget me, r113!

I can't say if she's a great actress or not, but there is a quality about her that I've always liked. A softness or eccentricity... not sure.

Women nowadays seem so hard.

R48, angry straight guy: no, they still don't want you. Really. Even today. They say those things at a very short, specific, reminiscing stage of their lives. It passes. They don't really mean they would turn back the clock and choose you after all. It's just another phase.

Rejection sucks. Get over it. You will age plenty, too, and go through your phases. Use your anger and resentment to make your life's dreams come true, finally, while you think you have some currency. Your 30 year old baby producer will get tired of you. Count on it. Start the counseling now, before the divorce.

Yikes. I had no idea Wiest's daughter was in this much trouble.

I wish she'd write a real autobiography. The one she wrote was mostly about her not very interesting mother...but she occasionally came up with funny anecdotes about her own life as a star.

She'd long dreamed of the day she'd get an Oscar nomination.

She was at some sort of photographic shoot for a magazine and they were saying things like "NOTHING suits her...she has no shoulders..." being very nasty indeed and her life force was draining right out of her...and that was the moment someone informed her that she'd been nominated for an Oscar and how she feeling too miserable to feel anything at all.

[quote]I wish she'd write a real autobiography.

I think the book that just came out might be more of what you would like to read from her.

[quote]"NOTHING suits her...she has no shoulders..."

I don't understand this at all. She was a very pretty woman with a nice figure.

Agree with R118. I read that stupid book about her mother and it was deadly dull. She went on and on about her mother's Leave it to Beaver life of PTA meetings, dinner parties, car pools and cookie baking. ZZZZZZZ.

The book had only one page dedicated to The Godfather, and even then all she did was complain about Kay's wig. Dear God woman, you've worked with some of the most fascinating actors of all time on some of the best films of the 20th century. Tell us about it. THAT'S what we're interested in. We don't want to hear about your mother's ordinary frau life.

Do you mean Stockard Channing from Grease? Not sure I would elevate her to one of the greats, but to each their own.

She certainly set out to steal Warren from Julie Christie, and succeeded. Good career move. Even now Julie won't appear on the same show as her, which is why Julie appeared on video at that Beatty tribute a while back.

For a key actress of the 70s, up there with Dunaway and Fonda, she has appeared in a ton of dreck and rubbish movies that nobody wants to see, still must have paid well. Keep earning seems to be her mantra.

A little tidbit about Diane Keaton - I know she used to listen to music on set. I don't know if she still does, but she used to put her earphones in even in-between takes. Not in an unfriendly way; it was how she stayed focused.

"Actor and playwright Sam Shepard, who took her breath away when they acted together in Days of Heaven, is among the 48.'

Diane Keaton was NOT in "Days of Heaven." She was in "Crimes of the Heart", which featured Shepard in a minor role, and "Baby Boom", in which he was featured. But they were not in DOH together.

That's one thing that article has wrong. I wonder what else it got wrong? It depicts Keaton as a total wackadoo. I'm sure she's nutty to a certain degree, but I don't know if she's THAT nutty.

[quote]A little tidbit about Diane Keaton - I know she used to listen to music on set. I don't know if she still does, but she used to put her earphones in even in-between takes. Not in an unfriendly way; it was how she stayed focused.

There's nothing strange about this at all. I have my earphones in at work all day long so I can tune out all the idiots distracting me and stay focused.

In on set environment what she does is a bit unusual. I have never heard of another actor doing it, though that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

[quote]In on set environment what she does is a bit unusual.

Not really. The time in between takes can be long and boring.

R118, I wonder if the treatment Diane experienced at the photo shoot helped contribute to her obvious complex about her body? I'm sure it didn't help any. (She likes to cover herself from head to toe, as we know). I guess nothing is every good enough for impossible Hollywood standards...sad.

R120, yes, she was and IS pretty and has a good figure. No need to cover it up. She also has an inner beauty which always shines through...love her voice, smile and laugh.

[quote]Not really. The time in between takes can be long and boring.

The time between camera set ups can be long. The time between takes is not always long. In fact, the reset can be really short.

Maybe you have seen a lot of actors do what she does, but I have not.

Maybe she listens to music between takes because she is STONED. She already recognized Streep as her generation's genius, so I don't think she has any delusions that she is a stronger actress. I would like to see her do better material than dumb wedding or family movies, but DeNiro has the same problem.

Diane Keaton should have found herself a nice professor at NYU, maybe from the drama department. If she had, she might be happily married today. But no, an "ordinary" guy isn't good enough for her, she wants a "movie star." If that's her criteria for a mate, no wonder she's alone.

She also dated Steve Martin for an extended period of time.

So, she has fucked around a lot - they all did then - Dunaway, Joni Mitchell, Carly, Linda, even Carole King with all her marriages - and she got a lot of hot actor action, Beatty was still with Christie when Keaton came on to him. Mind you, after being lumbered with Woody Allen who wouldn't make a move on Warren Beatty !

Does she have children? Or is she an old maid?

2 kids

Adopted.

A lot of her relationships were on-off. I wonder why none of these men married her.

She wanted Pacino?

Is that bitch crazy?

[R8] So true. No range whatsoever.

Ever notice how all these feminist "right-on" types end up alone? Fonda, Keaton, so on and so on.

R139 because none of those men were even remotely interested in commitment. Remember when Beatty got married it was the Hollywood equivalent of hell freezing over. And I don't think Pacino ever got married, and the Woodman, well...he obviously has his own issues.

But methinks she purposely chased the most unattainable men possible - likes self-fulfilling prophecy. That's very high school and most women with that kind of mentality eventually wisen up to it and get married to someone who is the marrying kind. But it seems like by the time Keaton realized her pattern, and wished to change it, it was too late.

Unless she's just a lesbian.

A "late in life" one, of course.

I had a major lesbian crush on Diane Keaton in my teens, not unlike the one I had on Meredith Baxter at around the same time. And we know how that turned out...

Did she ever have a significant relationship with anyone who wasn't famous?

[quote]Ever notice how all these feminist "right-on" types end up alone? Fonda, Keaton, so on and so on.

You are wrong about Fonda. She was in three long term marriages and is currently in a long term relationship. If anything she seems to always find a man. Plus, she has kids and grandkids that she spends a lot of time with.

R147 = Jane Fonda.

Yeah, I get a lesbian vibe from Keaton.

"Ever notice how all these feminist "right-on" types end up alone? Fonda, Keaton, so on and so on."

"So on and so on." Just who is "so on and so on?" You sound like a fucking idiot.

Speaking of Diane, she will be a guest tonight on Jimmy Fallon's show. I have yet to see the newest incarnation of his program, so might check it out to see what she has to say.

Diane was on the Today show today.

I know he's a POS but does anyone else find Matt Lauer attractive with his shaved head?

Watched the Tonight Show and Diane showed off her Sally Hansen plaid fingernails and toenails (she took off her shoes to play beer pong - in her case, red wine with ice pong, her drink of choice - with Jimmy). She mentioned that growing up, she used to put a bobby pin on the end of her nose because she thought it was 'bulbous'.

R152, I don't, but I saw Matt on the Seth Meyers program last night with Savannah Guthrie and he wasn't as much of a jerk as he usually is. (Probably just playing the late night show banter game though).

She was hawking her new book, 'Let's Just Say it Wasn't Pretty.' Don't know if it is more scintillating than the last book. The last book did well, though, so they probably pushed her for another. She acted very flighty as usual and probably drove Fallon a bit crazy...she also commented on what she thought was his 'long nose'...he said that was a first for him. (his nose is definitely not long...maybe that's all part of her body dysmorphia transferring itself to others? who knows). Thought she was enjoyable on the show, but realize that she is not everyone's cup of tea.

I read her book in a sitting. It's cute, if lightweight. It's a lot about finding beauty in the ordinary and embracing your insecurities and weirdness. I wish she would realize that what readers really want is a tell-all about her affairs and life. She devotes some time to Pacino in the book, but you never get a sense of what actually happened between her and the men in her life.

So I guess she doesn't discuss her films r155?

No, R156, not really. Lots of little anecdotes on the topic of "beauty." Has anyone else here picked it up?

[quote]but you never get a sense of what actually happened between her and the men in her life

For someone who's written two books "about herself", she's very skilled at hiding who she really is. But if people are buying them, can you blame her?

She asked Woody Allen to marry her but he told her she was way too old for his taste.

You're right, R158. It is strange, especially because she seems very open about herself at face value. Maybe she has the philosophy that she doesn't want to hurt anyone else who has been in her life by revealing too much.

[quote]especially because she seems very open about herself at face value

I think in a very limited and controlled way.

I think she's probably very peculiar, bottom line and that's why no one actually stuck around. She was cute and a successful actress and that drew them to her, but she couldn't keep anyone for long. No one wants to marry a nutcase.

She spends her whole time on talk shows apologizing for being on her own and yapping away about her short lived famous boyfriends of many moons ago.

I agree, R160 and R161. As an actress, she routinely hides behind her roles, and the clothes she wears are like suits of armor. She reveals snippets of truth about herself, but she won't tell a cohesive story. Her "nuttiness" has always been her trademark schtick to disarm and distract from her authentic self. In this bizarre Today Show segment with Matt Lauer she hijacks the interview in an odd, cringeworthy flirt session that swings wildly between sexual aggressiveness and a desperate neediness...

She's gonna be on Dr. Oz tomorrow afternoon "opening up" about her bulimia. Wow, she's really hawking her products now, and going the full-fledged confessional route too. This is the same person who never used to promote her movies - like ever.

In the early 70's I worked with Keaton at the Antique Guild in LA. She worked there part time between roles. I found her to be really sweet and down to earth.

Jane Fonda is not alone. She has been with Richard, a producer, for a good number of years, and they live together. They've been together five or eight years or around that number.

Diane Keaton still has a thing for Al Pacino, she posts about him on Instagram.

Sarandon and Spacek are much better actresses--they really make you forget they're acting.

Keaton, like Fonda has done some really good work, but not consistently so. She's known Allen for decades---you don't abandon people you've known that long and she probably knows Mia well enough to know you can't believe everything from Team Mia.

[Quote]There are a lot of sad bitter women out there in their 50's who missed their chance at being a wife and mother because there were "no great guys" out there etc. The reason they are alone is because they weren't looking for Mr. Right, they were looking for Mr. Perfect. When were were younger these women didn't want me, I wasn't rich enough or good looking enough, or not exciting. Now that life has passed them by and they are afraid of being alone I don't look so bad to them. Well guess what ladies, I don't want you anymore. I want what I always wanted, a family, and you are too old to give me children. I'm looking for a woman in her 30's who wants to be a wife and mother, who wants a man who will love her and take care of her. A man in his 50's can still do that. You women in your 50's who thought your shit didn't stink can take your dried up old ovaries and use them to plant petunias. Fuck you.

Young women don't want you: (hint-they call older men, "scrotes". This includes men in their thirties and forties

There are plenty of message boards and subreddits on Reddit where young women completely trash older men. Young women don't want your faulty old sperm.

one more for the hell of it, R48:

You could sense the strong competitive and give-and-take chemistry between Warren Beatty and her in "Reds," in which I think she gave an underrated great performance that brought together many of her strong points as an actor--portraying the outsider, undeterred, fighting for equal rights alongside the big boys, alternating between vulnerability and being a spitfire, and an outsider who does and sees things on her own terms.

I know a girl who was Pacino's PA when he was with Dianne and I understood the two stars were both weak bisexuals, basically same-sex oriented but OK being in a hetero couple. I think Keaton is a big ol closet case.

Sounds like she is trying to keep her frau market happy.

"I wish I was just like you married fraus! Really I do!"

But she actually doesn't.

R172, tell us more. Didn't Pacino get another woman pregnant during the course of his relationship with Diane Keaton?

r164, that's so cool, I never heard that. I worked for the Antique Guild from about 1985-91 in Studio City, Glendale, and Woodland Hills.