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Dick van Dyke on "The Carol Burnett Show"

He was supposed to be a season regular the last season, but halfway through he left the show. I've never found an explanation why.

by Anonymousreply 157December 2, 2020 2:26 AM

b/c he sucked

by Anonymousreply 1March 23, 2014 7:10 PM

Rehab?

by Anonymousreply 2March 23, 2014 7:34 PM

He left because of Vicki Lawrence's constant pressure for him to fuck her in the ass.

by Anonymousreply 3March 23, 2014 7:37 PM

Every year for ten years Harvey Korman was threatening to leave the show. He was the ultimate second banana, but like all performers he had an ego.

Finally at the end of season ten he made good on his threat and left. One main reason was that he got a series commitment from ABC for his own series (which wound up only lasting 13 episodes)

So now they needed a second banana, and Carol had just finished doing a play with Dick Van Dyke.

With promises the second banana role would be enlarged, he agreed.

But he wound up with the same problem as Harvey. Plus he was living in Arizona at the time and the commute was killing him. (He actually filmed his sitcom the new DVD show and his variety show in Arizona!)

So over Thanksgiving he gave notice, as it wasn't creatively stimulating enough for him.

By that time Carol knew she wanted to pull the plug on the show. So she felt there was no need for a replacement.

When CBS renewed the show for season 12, Carol thanks but no thanks.

Harvey did make a very brief cameo in the final episode of Carol Burnett show.

by Anonymousreply 4March 23, 2014 7:49 PM

What play did Carol and Dick do together.

by Anonymousreply 5March 23, 2014 7:56 PM

Joe Hamilton (Carol's then-husband and the show's producer) severely underpaid all the performers other than Carol herself, which is why Lyle Waggoner left.

Harvey having a big ego is pretty hilarious in retrospect. He was very funny and talented but could never be anything other than a Second banana, and his vaudeville-style humor was already well over with when he left the show.

by Anonymousreply 6March 23, 2014 7:57 PM

[quote] What play did Carol and Dick do together.

Either Same Time, Next Year or I Do, I Do

by Anonymousreply 7March 23, 2014 8:01 PM

[quote]What play did Carol and Dick do together.

My Fair Lady. They did it at the Burt Reynolds Dinner Theater... Carol played Henry Higgins and Dick played Eliza Doolittle using his great Cockney accent. I took Ma, and it was great.

by Anonymousreply 8March 23, 2014 8:07 PM

R10 That's the MISTER Burt Reynolds Dinner Theater!

by Anonymousreply 9March 23, 2014 8:43 PM

[quote]Carol played Henry Higgins

Was he a relative?

by Anonymousreply 10March 23, 2014 8:44 PM

r13 Not to mention Mrs. Hawiggins.

by Anonymousreply 11March 23, 2014 8:55 PM

Where was I during all this?

by Anonymousreply 12March 23, 2014 9:04 PM

r2, my guess would be that Andrews and Burnett wanted to save their teaming for specials, and didn't want to dilute its potency or "specialness" by appearing together on a regular episode of the show? That's just a guess, though.

by Anonymousreply 13March 23, 2014 9:32 PM

You can see how out of place he seems to be in the youtube clip of the "elephant on a tightrope" blooper from the show.

Miss Vicki blows them all out of the water with her one line.

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by Anonymousreply 14March 23, 2014 9:35 PM

One dyke was enough.

by Anonymousreply 15March 23, 2014 9:37 PM

Dick Van Dyke as a second banana was just WRONG. He was equal to Carol Burnett, if not superior, as a comedic actor. He had his own incredibly successful comedy show where he was the star; for him to be a "second banana" was just a very bad idea. No wonder it didn't work.

He went on to have two more comedy shows. In one, he played an actor on a soap and his wife was Hope Lange. I don't know how long it lasted but it was frequently very funny.

In 1976 he had a sketch comedy show called "Van Dyke and Company." It featured Andy Kaufman! There was a skit where Andy Kaufman and a black guy are the finalists in a "Fonzie" look-a-like contest. The black guy wins; Van Dyke feels badly for Andy, so he lets him perform as a kind of consolation prize. After that, Kaufman would show up unannounced, usually when Van Dyke was in the middle of a musical number. One such example had Van Dyke in full clown makeup doing a song while Andy, seemingly oblivious, started setting up his record player behind Van Dyke in order to do one of his bits. Despite being canceled after three months, the show won an Emmy Award for Outstanding Comedy-Variety Series.

Dick Van Dyke was too good to be a second banana.

by Anonymousreply 16March 24, 2014 12:39 AM

The New Dick van Dyke Show and Van Dyke & Company were both before his stint on The Carol Burnett Show, not after it.

by Anonymousreply 17March 24, 2014 12:41 AM

[quote] The New Dick van Dyke Show and Van Dyke & Company were both before his stint on The Carol Burnett Show, not after it.

At DVD INSISTENCE both shows were filmed in Arizona!

by Anonymousreply 18March 24, 2014 12:46 AM

OMG, will you people stop saying "second banana"?! WTF? Who says things like that? Krusty the Klown?

by Anonymousreply 19March 24, 2014 12:56 AM

Who says things like "Krusty the Klown"? Peter Griffin?

by Anonymousreply 20March 24, 2014 1:20 AM

Second clown or NOTHING

by Anonymousreply 21March 24, 2014 1:44 AM

He just didn't get with Carol/Vicki/Tim.

by Anonymousreply 22March 24, 2014 1:51 AM

Would you prefer "Top Banana"

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by Anonymousreply 23March 24, 2014 1:53 AM

"The New Dick van Dyke Show and Van Dyke & Company were both before his stint on The Carol Burnett Show, not after it."

Which is why it was so ridiculous for him to be a supporting player on the Carol Burnett show. He was a major star. Maybe it seemed like a good idea at the time, but Dick Van Dyke was no supporting player. He was too established as a comedy star to ever be just that.

by Anonymousreply 24March 24, 2014 1:54 AM

R19, or should I say Miss van Dyke, Dickie was good in only one (one) television show, and that's it. He was hideous in Poppins, and boring in the detective show. I don't dislike him, but his brother had a lot more success in keeping an interesting series of performances going.

Don't even joke about him being equal or superior to Burnett in comedy. It's ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 25March 24, 2014 2:00 AM

Jerry Van Dyke was awful, and I purposely skip those two episodes of MTM he appears in. Now Barry Van Dyke could do anything he wanted to me. ANYTHING!

by Anonymousreply 26March 24, 2014 2:03 AM

[quote]OMG, will you people stop saying "second banana"?! WTF? Who says things like that?

Adults?

by Anonymousreply 27March 24, 2014 2:04 AM

Anything?

by Anonymousreply 28March 24, 2014 2:06 AM

There are actually people (i.e. R28) who think that Jerry Van Dyke was better/more talented than Dick Van Dyke?

God, no. Tell me that can't possibly be true.

by Anonymousreply 29March 24, 2014 2:26 AM

I didn't look at Harvey Korman or Dick Van Dyke as the 'second banana' or supporting actor on "The Carol Burnett Show." Yes, Carol was the star, but she also need a male lead or at least a strong supporting actor, Harvey and Dyke filled that role.

If anyone were the 'second banana' (weird term nowadays), it was Tim Conway, who truly was the supporting actor on the 'Burnett' show.

by Anonymousreply 30March 24, 2014 3:05 AM

STOP saying "second banana," r33.

by Anonymousreply 31March 24, 2014 3:19 AM

R34 is an undesirable, mushy, rotten banana.

by Anonymousreply 32March 24, 2014 3:23 AM

R19 had it right. It was wrong (shockingly wrong!) to see Dick Van Dyke play second fiddle to anyone, even someone as great as Carol Burnett.

by Anonymousreply 33March 24, 2014 4:51 AM

Dick Van Dyke was a great actor; however, he took the Burnett job because he wanted to work, and there was nothing better than joining a hit comedy skit show, something which played to Van Dyke's strengths.

Plus, it had been more than a decade since The Dick Van Dyke Show had ended. Why not go back to work?

by Anonymousreply 34March 24, 2014 5:25 AM

I never "got" Tim Conway. The only thing he was good for was making Harvey Korman crack up. Korman >>>> Conway. He made the show in many ways. Loved him in all the Brooks movies, too, esp High Anxiety with Cloris Leachman.

I haven't been on imdb in a while, but didn't someone who pretended to be Harvey Korman's son used to troll all over there. He may well still, I don't know.

by Anonymousreply 35March 24, 2014 5:45 AM

"It was wrong (shockingly wrong!) to see Dick Van Dyke play second fiddle to anyone"

Well, audiences have been known to accept that circumstance at times, r36.

by Anonymousreply 36March 24, 2014 7:05 AM

r32 Any episode of "My Mother, The Car" will tell you that.

by Anonymousreply 37March 24, 2014 9:10 AM

Let's not forget Jerry's brilliance on my show!

by Anonymousreply 38March 24, 2014 10:40 AM

Stop saying second banana!

It wounds.

by Anonymousreply 39March 24, 2014 11:03 AM

R42, is your name "Chiquita"?

by Anonymousreply 40March 24, 2014 1:20 PM

"Don't even joke about him being equal or superior to Burnett in comedy. It's ridiculous."

He's every bit as talented as Carol Burnett. Probably more so, when it came to overall ability.

by Anonymousreply 41March 24, 2014 1:42 PM

I like Dick Van Dyke, and think he is talented, maybe just as talented as Carol (although in a way it is kind of comparing apples to oranges - they had different strengths and styles). However, he was a at a career low at this time. It had been ten plus years since Dick Van Dyke. He had two series since then, but neither lasted, so if anything they pointed out his career had slowed. His movie career never took off like he wanted. I would not say he was a has-been at the time, but Carol was the bigger name at the time.

This is not a popular opinion, but I liked him in Mary Poppins...

by Anonymousreply 42March 24, 2014 1:51 PM

Van Dyke went on to have a successful tv series after the original Dick Van Dyke show: "Diagnosis Murder." I never watched it, but it was popular enought to stay on for eight seasons.

by Anonymousreply 43March 24, 2014 3:54 PM

Wasn't this the period that his alcoholism was at its worst?

by Anonymousreply 44March 24, 2014 4:02 PM

Jerry Van Dyke was actually very good on Coach as a "second banana."

Someone was always trying to make him into a "star" and they did it on "Coach."

by Anonymousreply 45March 24, 2014 4:43 PM

R46 Yes, but that was AFTER the Carol Burnett gig.

by Anonymousreply 46March 24, 2014 4:52 PM

I always thought it odd that Van Dyke did NOT work out on Carol's show. On paper that sounds like a great idea. Two comedy greats working together. BOTH great at slapstick and visual comedy. Both with perfect timing. And they obviously admired each other's work. So what went wrong? Why was he just not funny? Did they not write to his strengths? Forget the whole "second banana" naming. If he had been FUNNY, that would have been all that mattered. Dick could DO sketch comedy, too. But his work was just kind of "flat" or "there" without any of the brilliance of Rob Petrie OR the exhuberance of his movie roles (he was FUN in Mary Poppins, despite the bad accent.). His presence just seemed uninspired.

by Anonymousreply 47March 24, 2014 4:52 PM

R42 is right. DVD was something of a has been at the time and most people thought after the two failed series that he had already peaked. I say this as someone who was actually alive at the time. And he just wasn't funny on the show.

Carol was more talented especially at comedy sketches. Look at her different roles - Eunice, Mrs. Wiggins. All DVD does is the same old Stan Laurel bit when he goes into another character. He is a huge fan of Laurel, but please. I'd rather watch the real Laurel.

by Anonymousreply 48March 24, 2014 4:57 PM

Carol was clearly the top banana.

by Anonymousreply 49March 24, 2014 5:01 PM

If you wanna be the top banana, you gotta start at the bottom of the bunch.

by Anonymousreply 50March 24, 2014 5:10 PM

The Carol Burnett show does not hold up well. Sometimes the shows were funny and often they were duds. In fact, there was a period of about 4 years where the shows were horrible. Finally, maybe around the time Mrs. Wiggins was created, they were somewhat good again. Carol is likable so you wanted to see her. Liked Harvey, loved looking at Lyle, and Vicki clearly is a very talented actress, comedian, and singer--often, I liked her more than Carol. (Her touring one woman show is hilarious--and the audience is very diverse as to color and age AND her one woman show is much better than Seinfeld's touring snoozefest show.) I also never thought Tim was funny. Dick was always a good performer, and he must have appealed to many since his TV series had very good runs.

by Anonymousreply 51March 24, 2014 5:31 PM

R53 see R26

by Anonymousreply 52March 24, 2014 5:36 PM

My mom loved Mrs. Wiggins because she reminded her of a dumb bitch she worked with named Clara. I never heard the end about Clara growing up.

by Anonymousreply 53March 24, 2014 5:39 PM

R27 = read R45. Dick Van Dyke needed a job. His quest to be a movie star never materialized (although he appeared in a couple of successful ones post the Dick Van Dyke Show) and his TV series were duds. He was 50 and no longer relevant.

by Anonymousreply 54March 24, 2014 5:46 PM

Believe it or not the show needed Harvey Korman and was a shadow of itself with his departure. Perhaps had this occurred mid-run, they could have found a replacement who had time to get his feet wet and gain acceptance from the audience, but after, what, 11 or 12 seasons, the show was running out of gas anyway, and it was a case of too little, too late.

I'm pretty sure Steve Martin hosted an episode the final season, but, generally speaking, the show was on its last legs.

by Anonymousreply 55March 24, 2014 5:56 PM

"Yes, but that was AFTER the Carol Burnett gig."

Well, so what? To hear some of you talk, his career was over, absolutely over, after The Dick Van Dyke show and he was some poor has-been that couldn't get a job, which is why he took the "second banana" role the the Carol Burnett Show. Actually, he worked a lot; not everything he did was successful but it wasn't like he couldn't find work.

by Anonymousreply 56March 24, 2014 5:59 PM

Take a pill, r59.

by Anonymousreply 57March 24, 2014 6:00 PM

I always thought Dick Van Dyke had spunk. I LIKE spunk.

by Anonymousreply 58March 24, 2014 6:06 PM

When did I eat banana?

by Anonymousreply 59March 24, 2014 6:07 PM

I think r59 was just doing a monologue from Dennis Weaver's "Cocaine: One Man's Seduction."

by Anonymousreply 60March 24, 2014 6:11 PM

[quote]I'm pretty sure Steve Martin hosted an episode the final season, but, generally speaking, the show was on its last legs.

No one EVER hosted the show but me, bitch!

by Anonymousreply 61March 24, 2014 6:15 PM

Carol and Dick like comparing apples to oranges. Second banana? It's all sour grapes.

by Anonymousreply 62March 24, 2014 6:15 PM

I guess it was over before Mango could do a guest spot.

by Anonymousreply 63March 24, 2014 6:17 PM

Same for me.

by Anonymousreply 64March 24, 2014 6:18 PM

Dick Van Dyke simply was not only, NOT FUNNY, but he was dragging the whole show down with him. Sketch comedy was dying, because it had to be bland, SNL could be a lot more daring. MTM tried a variety show and died. Van Dyke was not funny anymore.

It is no coincidence that his other long running show was not a comedy.

He did the Golden Girls playing a boyfriend of one of the girls, a spot reserved for never was performers like Rhoda's dad, and Dutch from Soap and Ann Romono's ex. Like Barney Miller who played a role, he was past his time.

by Anonymousreply 65March 24, 2014 6:34 PM

Thank you for fucking my end

Fuck me once or twice and then again

Your heart is true

You're a pal not a stupid Jew

And if you threw a party

Invited everyone but Jews

You would see

Every damn, Iz-ray-al-ee

Would say "Oh vey I'm so oppressed"

Plant trees in Iz-ray-al

by Anonymousreply 66March 24, 2014 6:56 PM

This is the only Van Dyke "Top Banana" I would want to see... rawrrrrrr!

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by Anonymousreply 67March 24, 2014 7:09 PM

R68 I think you mean variety shows were dying. Of the I will come out on stage in my Bob Mackie costume variety. But sketch comedy most definitely was NOT dead.

R64 - host, special guest stars, whatever they were called...you know what I mean.

by Anonymousreply 68March 24, 2014 7:15 PM

The DVD show was his peak as a comedian. His only other real success was Diagnosis Murder, but that wasn't comedy. And that came long after the DVD show.

by Anonymousreply 69March 24, 2014 7:31 PM

The DVD show was probably his showiest moment, but it definitely not his "peak as a comedian." The work he did in movies and his other tv shows was equal to what he did in the DVD show, even if they weren't the huge success the DVD show was.

He was great in "Cold Turkey", a very funny movie that featured a slew of talented actors and comedians: Bob Newhart, Jean Stapleton, Vincent Gardenia, Tom Poston, Bob and Ray, Judith Lowry, Paul Benedict, Barnard Hughes, Pippa Scott, Edward Everett Horton, and Graham Jarvis.

Did Carol Burnett ever succeed in a dramatic role? I think she tried a few, but never was very good at it.

by Anonymousreply 70March 24, 2014 11:11 PM

R70, that's Dick van Patten, not Dick van Dyke.

by Anonymousreply 71March 25, 2014 12:16 AM

R74 with BARRY Van Dyke.

by Anonymousreply 72March 25, 2014 12:22 AM

Carol was excellent in Friendly Fire. Dick was good in The Morning After, not so much in The Runner Stumbles.

Love them both.

by Anonymousreply 73March 25, 2014 1:41 AM

Dick was fabulous and heartbreaking in "The Morning After." Just watched it on Youtube a few months ago, but now can't find it.

by Anonymousreply 74March 25, 2014 2:00 AM

Don't forget the early Bud Yorkin-Norman Lear movie, "Divorce, American Style" with Dick and DL fave Debbie Reynolds.

by Anonymousreply 75March 25, 2014 2:24 AM

"Carol was excellent in Friendly Fire."

Actually, she got mediocre reviews for that. Ned Beatty, who played her husband, got all the accolades for that one.

by Anonymousreply 76March 25, 2014 3:22 PM

[quote] Actually, she got mediocre reviews for that.

She received an Emmy nomination for Best Actress in a mini-series or a special

by Anonymousreply 77March 25, 2014 6:24 PM

"She received an Emmy nomination for Best Actress in a mini-series or a special."

She got an Emmy nomination because she was Carole Burnett. The reviews for her performance were not good. I saw that mini-series; she's not very good at drama.

by Anonymousreply 78March 26, 2014 1:51 AM

Let's not forget "Fresno"! (Featuring Jerry Van Dyke!)

by Anonymousreply 79March 26, 2014 2:45 AM

Sorry, forgot to post a link.

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by Anonymousreply 80March 26, 2014 2:47 AM

New York Times review for r79/r81:

"And, holding the entire structure together, Carol Burnett and Ned Beatty are superb as the parents... Miss Burnett is uncompromising in her portrayal of a woman determined, if not possessed. Several days after prescreening the film, I was discussing the program, and, momentarily, couldn't remember who played Peg Mullen. For a while, I wondered if this lapse of memory reflected unfavorably on Miss Burnett's performance, but then I realized that her interpretation of Peg was etched vividly in my memory. This is not an actor-ish display. It is completely self-effacing, totally submerged in character. Coming on top of her performance in Robert Altman's film 'The Wedding', 'Friendly Fire' establishes Miss Burnett, the proven comedienne, as an exceptionally fine actress."

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by Anonymousreply 81March 26, 2014 7:51 AM

Obviously the person who did the NY Time review was a big fan of Carol Burnett's.

I saw "Friendly Fire." Burnett's performance was bland and forgettable. It was obvious that she was trying, but she just wasn't convincing as the mother of a young man killed so senselessly.

by Anonymousreply 82March 26, 2014 3:51 PM

[quote]Obviously the person who did the NY Time review was a big fan of Carol Burnett's.

"A big fan" who couldn't remember her name?

by Anonymousreply 83March 26, 2014 4:10 PM

Carol got great reviews for "Friendly Fire"--not just in the Times but everywhere.

by Anonymousreply 84March 26, 2014 4:16 PM

Carol's show was subversively loopy, like her unconventional childhood with her loser parents and nutty Grandma. And her posse Harvey, Vicki and later Tim all shared the same quirky way of looking at the world.

Her show made a nice opener for SNL, which was on the same night right after the news.

Van Dyke was too middle-of-the-road Middle America. Talk about a one-hit wonder.

And they never include his episodes in any of the CBS compilations.

by Anonymousreply 85March 26, 2014 9:06 PM

[quote]Talk about a one-hit wonder.

Bye, Bye Birdie was a hit on stage and screen. The Dick Van Dyke show is a TV classic and Mary Poppins is a film classic. Cold Turkey is a minor masterpiece and Van Dyke is the glue that holds it together. Even Diagnosis: Murder ran for years and made him millions.

by Anonymousreply 86March 26, 2014 9:12 PM

Dick Van Dyke has multiple Emmys, one Tony and one Grammy.

He is an Oscar away from EGOT

by Anonymousreply 87March 26, 2014 9:15 PM

"A big fan" who couldn't remember her name?"

That review implied that Burnett's performance was so stunning, that the character of Peg Mullen was so "etched vividly" in the reviewer's mind that she forgot the incredibly famous Carol Burnett played the role. That review seems full of shit; mindless ass-kissing.

by Anonymousreply 88March 26, 2014 10:23 PM

I finally saw the full version of the famous Mama and Eunice Play Password sketch from the last season. Dick was pretty ghastly in it. Of course, without Harvey's Ed in it, it felt all wrong anyway.

by Anonymousreply 89March 28, 2014 3:07 AM

I eat old peoples excrement.

by Anonymousreply 90March 28, 2014 3:12 AM

Let's just say "Van Dyke's dick" wasn't as long as his face would lead people to think.

by Anonymousreply 91October 22, 2015 7:39 PM

[quote] Joe Hamilton (Carol's then-husband and the show's producer) severely underpaid all the performers other than Carol herself, which is why Lyle Waggoner left.

And now he's laughing all the way to the bank.

by Anonymousreply 92October 22, 2015 7:45 PM

I too was alive then.DVD tried to recreate the success of his original show in the 60 s but the two sitcoms were not very good. After a few successful movies that was not working out either. So the previous posters were right that he was considered something of a has been who couldn't recreate his success of the 60s. Everyone liked him, but as others posted, it seemed his glory days were over. I also agree that he was not funny on the CBS and it was disappointing. I agree with others that he resorts to the stupid Stan Laurel shtick which was not funny. His career was saved by DM, but that wasn't until the early 90s. He had another shot at a sitcom in 1988 that lasted 6 episodes. His career is a lot like Andy Griffiths. Some early good movies, a classic sitcom, and lots of misses until a late life drama/mystery show.

by Anonymousreply 93October 22, 2015 9:19 PM

Three words Van Dyke and Company

by Anonymousreply 94October 22, 2015 9:30 PM

[quote]And now he's laughing all the way to the bank.

The correct expression is "CRYING all the way to the bank."

by Anonymousreply 95October 22, 2015 11:29 PM

R86 -I agree that " Cold Turkey" is a minor masterpiece. As a kid he was in two rites of childhood-" Mary Poppins" and " "Bang, Bang". Just like Julie Andrews, Disney, and Social Sercurity - you can't go through life without them. I also like his performance in " Poppins". He is also great in a film called " Divorce, American Style". He did help bring Burnett's show closer to the end. But it was a dinosaur even then. Does anyone remember the TV movie of the week where he played an alcoholic ?

by Anonymousreply 96October 23, 2015 12:10 AM

I simply cannot abide those who criticize Van Dyke's accent in Mary Poppins as if it ruins the film. He was playing a chimney sweep in a Disney musical where he danced with singing cartoon penguins and you're upset that his accent wasn't authentically Cockney for this film?? Absurd.

by Anonymousreply 97October 23, 2015 12:41 AM

Dick van Dyke has a HUGE cock.

by Anonymousreply 98October 23, 2015 2:11 AM

I thought he only had a big floppy pancreas.

by Anonymousreply 99October 23, 2015 2:52 AM

I peeked at dick in the dressing room. So fine!

by Anonymousreply 100October 23, 2015 3:01 AM

[quote]Yes, Carol was the star, but she also need a male lead or at least a strong supporting actor, Harvey and Dyke filled that role.

Agreed that Vicki Lawrence was very masculine; but all the same, is it fair to refer to her as "Dyke"?

by Anonymousreply 101October 23, 2015 3:02 AM

R96 Divorce American Style is one of my favorite films and I thought DVD was excellent in that role. I think if he had found more scripts like that, he could have had more success in film because he really was a good actor.

by Anonymousreply 102October 23, 2015 3:04 AM

[quote] I simply cannot abide those who criticize Van Dyke's accent in Mary Poppins as if it ruins the film.

That is the least of that movie's problems, honestly.

by Anonymousreply 103October 23, 2015 4:59 AM

Dick should have stayed longer.

by Anonymousreply 104April 13, 2019 4:27 AM

They are bringing the lost unseen episodes to ME TV next week!

by Anonymousreply 105April 13, 2019 2:49 PM

R104 Are you saying he had premature ejaculation?

by Anonymousreply 106April 13, 2019 4:04 PM

[quote]Van Dyke went on to have a successful tv series after the original Dick Van Dyke show: "Diagnosis Murder." I never watched it, but it was popular enought to stay on for eight seasons.

Because I was on it.

by Anonymousreply 107April 13, 2019 4:29 PM

R106, that is EXACTLY what I am saying!

by Anonymousreply 108April 13, 2019 4:39 PM

They should have just called him a very special guest star like they did with Tim Conway.

by Anonymousreply 109April 13, 2019 10:34 PM

Van Dyke was on a roll starting with Bye Bye Birdie, Mary Poppins, the Dick Van Dyke Show and Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. But by the time Harvey Korman left Carol's show, he was in a definite dry spell. Also, a major draw of the Burnett show in it's later years was "The Family" sketches, and Van Dyke didn't fit in those sketches at all.

by Anonymousreply 110April 14, 2019 1:39 AM

I'm sure they all had big plans but their careers kind of fizzled afterwards, didn't they?

Wasn't Carol at an awards show recently and she mentioned everyone except Dick?

The show had just run it's course. The look of comedy was changing; nobody wanted musical numbers anymore.

by Anonymousreply 111April 14, 2019 2:30 AM

I really liked "The New Dick Van Dyke" show, which featured (in addition to the aforementioned Hope Lange) DL fave Fannie Flagg. I don't think it's ever been in syndication -- is it streamable anywhere?

by Anonymousreply 112April 14, 2019 3:45 AM

His stint on this show couldn’t possibly have been worse than Floppy Poopy Turds.

by Anonymousreply 113April 14, 2019 4:03 AM

I thought it was interesting that when they were first casting for the DVD show, the two actors up for the lead were Dick Van Dyke and Johnny Carson [obviously they would have called it The Johnny Carson Show if Johnny had won the part]. DVD was the better choice because he clearly had more range than JC.

I think what worked for DVD in the early 60s just didn't work in the late 70s.

Both DVD and MTM tried to recreate "Rob and Laura" in a few specials but it never really clicked. You just can't go home again.

by Anonymousreply 114April 14, 2019 4:45 AM

[quote]Van Dyke was on a roll starting with Bye Bye Birdie, Mary Poppins, the Dick Van Dyke Show and Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

No, he peaked with Mary Poppins despite his racist accent. His movie career flopped and he had to return to television which was even worse because his show was absolutely horrible and yet it stayed on for a couple of years, re-emphasizing how low he sank.

This was made even worse as Mary Tyler Moore was able to pull off another hit show and critically acclaimed one too.

By the time Carol Burnett offered to rescue him, her show was already in the toilet with Vicki Lawrence's singing career, though to be fair, Vicki only recorded to help her the husband who was a songwriter.

by Anonymousreply 115April 14, 2019 7:26 PM

He was just awul

by Anonymousreply 116April 24, 2020 4:55 AM

Jerry Van Dyke was definitely second-banana to Barry Van Dyke.

by Anonymousreply 117April 24, 2020 5:04 AM

They didn't need two dykes on the show.

by Anonymousreply 118April 24, 2020 5:47 AM

Six years too late, Vicki.

by Anonymousreply 119April 24, 2020 6:17 AM

He seemed out of place. They should have just made him a special guest star. Carol blamed his lack of success on the show as the writers not knowing to write for him in her last book, "This Time Together".

by Anonymousreply 120June 7, 2020 1:35 AM

There was room for only one van Dyke on Carol's show and that was moi.

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by Anonymousreply 121June 7, 2020 1:51 AM

I was pressured for sex in top banana.

by Anonymousreply 122June 7, 2020 1:52 AM

The Carol Burnett Show is as archaic now as Hee Haw and The Lawrence Welk Show.

by Anonymousreply 123June 7, 2020 1:56 AM

Dick Van Dyke was like Andy Griffith, he had a hit classic comedy show, then a string of failed ones until finding a hit gentle crime drama in his later years.

by Anonymousreply 124June 7, 2020 2:40 AM

I wonder if he and Carol might have had a little fling whilst doing Same Time Next Year together. I don't think she and Rock ever did though.

by Anonymousreply 125June 7, 2020 3:14 AM

^ Perceptive is your middle name.

by Anonymousreply 126June 7, 2020 6:28 AM

r115 How could having a bad cockney accent be considered racist? Cockneys are white.

by Anonymousreply 127June 7, 2020 7:03 AM

r127

You can be racist against any group of people. Like I hate DUMBASSES, like you

by Anonymousreply 128June 7, 2020 7:23 AM

Like I Like?

by Anonymousreply 129June 7, 2020 7:30 AM

[quote]I really liked "The New Dick Van Dyke" show, which featured (in addition to the aforementioned Hope Lange) DL fave Fannie Flagg. I don't think it's ever been in syndication -- is it streamable anywhere?

It ran in syndication at least once because I remember seeing it either in the late 80s or 90s. Might have been A&E or Bravo back in their earlier incarnations. Or Lifetime before their true crime movies took over. I seem to recall seeing it air during daytime hours. Maybe someone resurrected it after DVD had success with Diagnosis: Murder. I'm surprised it hasn't shown up on on one of the mesothelioma channels like AntennaTV or Cozi.

by Anonymousreply 130June 7, 2020 8:12 AM

r128 So you're saying Dick Van Dyke was racist against white people?

by Anonymousreply 131June 7, 2020 2:07 PM

Although they did not live up to the first DVDS, the first two seasons of "The New Dick Van Dyke Show" were good. The format change in season three ruined the show. The show was syndicated, but not played a lot because it was not that popular and had less than the desired 100+ episodes for syndication.

by Anonymousreply 132June 7, 2020 2:50 PM

The New DVD show reran on some obscure religious owned nostalgia channel called GoodLife TV that then became AmericanLife TV in the early 2000s, which also aired the Color Honeymooners episodes. I remember because those were the only reasons I watched that channel.

by Anonymousreply 133June 7, 2020 4:45 PM

Banana is transphobic.

by Anonymousreply 134June 7, 2020 5:21 PM

Why didn't Dick van Dyke work out on the show?

One word: B O O Z E

by Anonymousreply 135June 7, 2020 5:22 PM

His nose kept growing and still is

by Anonymousreply 136June 8, 2020 1:47 PM

I wonder if Carol and DVD are still friends? Cutting him out of the syndication shows is cold.

Carol was having problems with her marriage and druggie daughter at the time. Daughter got better- marriage didn't.

by Anonymousreply 137June 8, 2020 2:27 PM

Is it Dick Van Dyke or Dick van Dyke or Richard Truck Lesbian (politically correct)

by Anonymousreply 138July 31, 2020 12:24 AM
by Anonymousreply 139August 1, 2020 12:21 AM

Vicki singing “Your Lies”

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by Anonymousreply 140August 1, 2020 12:27 AM

Dick asked me personally to play a real corpse on his show Diagnosis Murder, but I told him to go fuck himself.

by Anonymousreply 141August 1, 2020 12:29 AM

Carol never has spoken to Dick since she had him escorted off the lot by security.

by Anonymousreply 142August 1, 2020 3:58 AM

Barry Van Dyke was never given the exposure he deserved. He didn't need to be Olivier, just take off his shirt whenever possible.

by Anonymousreply 143August 1, 2020 9:36 AM

r143 His nose was too big.

by Anonymousreply 144August 2, 2020 10:47 AM

Dick wasn't the only Dyke on The Carole Burnett Show.

by Anonymousreply 145August 2, 2020 2:02 PM

Carol!

by Anonymousreply 146August 2, 2020 2:02 PM

[quote]Dick Van Dyke has multiple Emmys, one Tony and one Grammy. [quote] He is an Oscar away from EGOT

Yeah, but he’ll never get an Oscar as long as the Academy has any British actors who heard his accent in [italic]Mary Poppins[/italic] as voting members. We’re lucky the UK didn’t take that as a declaration of war by the US.

[quote] My Fair Lady. They did it at the Burt Reynolds Dinner Theater... Carol played Henry Higgins and Dick played Eliza Doolittle using his great Cockney accent. I took Ma, and it was great.

He was such a chameleon he was unrecognizable in the role!

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by Anonymousreply 147August 2, 2020 2:44 PM

Dick Van Dyke has said that he moved to Arizona primarily so he could drink without being bothered

DVD has been open about his alcoholism - some of the most productive years of his career were diminished by his drinking

DVD at the top of his game may have been able to carve out a place for himself in the established Carol Burnett ensemble cast - but it's clear the Van Dyke in 1979 struggled to find his place in the cast

Carol Burnett grew up with alcoholics parents - she has said her father Jody was a tall thin and kind alcoholic man who got even sweeter when he drank - not a mean bone in his body - maybe Carol saw something in Dick that reminded her of her father

By the 1978-1979 Season, Carol was already burdened with her husband Joe Hamilton's alcoholism and her daughter Carrie's experimentation and growing dependence on drugs and alcohol

Mary Tyler Moore, who fought her own battle with alcoholism, said in one of her autobiographies that it was the "tinkling of ice cubes" in cocktail glasses that portended the end of her marriage to Grant Tinker.

In another time, the collaboration between Carol and Dick could have worked...

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by Anonymousreply 148August 19, 2020 4:25 AM

Yes, people sure hate that bizarre Cockney accent.

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by Anonymousreply 149August 19, 2020 5:02 AM

[quote]DVD has been open about his alcoholism - some of the most productive years of his career were diminished by his drinking

When it suited him.

by Anonymousreply 150August 22, 2020 11:40 AM

Like when he needed sympathy and/or publicity

by Anonymousreply 151September 24, 2020 9:22 AM

DvD was a one time fluke. The show was only popular because it was on after "the Beverly Hillbillies"

by Anonymousreply 152December 2, 2020 2:26 AM
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