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Why didn't Andrew Stevens' career took off?

In 1978 it seemed sexy Andrew Stevens would become the next big thing. He starred in two high-profile movies that year: De Palma's The Fury and The Boys in Company C for which he even received a golden globe nomination.

But quickly after that he was reduced to making TV movies and guest appearances and he made only a handful of theatrical released movies in the 1980's. He hit his low point in the 1990's when he made some awful Z-grade erotic thrillers with Shannon Tweed.

Does anyone have any gossip or info about him? Was he difficult to work with? I always thought he was really hot and talented.

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by Anonymousreply 135April 19, 2019 2:24 PM

Being married to Kate Jackson probably didn't help his career.

by Anonymousreply 1February 15, 2014 1:45 AM

My cousin used to work for his production company. He told me the following about Andrew Stevens:

(1) He is extremely intelligent and a very good businessman

(2) he is extremely fucked up, especially with regards to his mother Connie Stevens, with whom he practically has an Oedipal fixation

(3) he gets lots of pussy (he's still very attractive, and is a manwhore)

by Anonymousreply 2February 15, 2014 1:46 AM

Hot, indeed. Talented? Maybe not so much. But careers have been made on just hotness. Maybe he wasn't as lucky as some others have been.

by Anonymousreply 3February 15, 2014 1:46 AM

Andrew's mother is Stella, not Connie.

by Anonymousreply 4February 15, 2014 1:49 AM

I had a crush on him thought his voice was extremely sexy along with his appearance. He sort of disappeared from the movies and even the tv scene. Is he now producing or working behind the scenes.

by Anonymousreply 5February 15, 2014 1:54 AM

He was always a favourite of mine. Anyone who could put up with Kate Jackson has my admiration.

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by Anonymousreply 6February 15, 2014 1:55 AM

[quote]Why didn't Andrew Stevens' career took off?

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 7February 15, 2014 1:55 AM

Helmet hair and hot little body. I remember him from early HBO days when I was a horny 14 year old looking for a late night thrill.

by Anonymousreply 8February 15, 2014 1:57 AM

the Andrews Sisters stole his CAREER!

by Anonymousreply 9February 15, 2014 1:57 AM

It didn't took off because he had such lousy grammar.

by Anonymousreply 10February 15, 2014 1:59 AM

[quote]he is extremely fucked up, especially with regards to his mother Connie Stevens, with whom he practically has an Oedipal fixation

He was so fucked up that he thought Connie Stevens was his real mother.

by Anonymousreply 11February 15, 2014 2:01 AM

I waited for years to see a nude scene from him and it was worth the wait. If my memory serves me it was with Charlie's last angel, Tanya Roberts, in one of those cheesy, sleazy sex thrillers.

by Anonymousreply 12February 15, 2014 2:02 AM

Unbelievable in Night Eyes. That was the most you ever got to see of him. How many times that shower scene with Tanya Roberts turned me on. What a gorgeous ass!

by Anonymousreply 13February 15, 2014 2:02 AM

Prior to those 1978 movies, he starred on TV in a Bicentennial mini-series.

by Anonymousreply 14February 15, 2014 2:03 AM

THE BASTARD.

by Anonymousreply 15February 15, 2014 2:05 AM

Andrew Stevens...THE BASTARD!

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by Anonymousreply 16February 15, 2014 2:05 AM

A male friend of mine slept with him. Said Stevens was really screwed up sexually. Gay, but insisted on saying he was straight, even when he was having sex with men. Also had sex with women, but not very successfully

by Anonymousreply 17February 15, 2014 2:06 AM

he was married to Kate Jackson? how odd.

by Anonymousreply 18February 15, 2014 2:10 AM

From "Battle Of The Network Stars", standing with "Flash Gordon's & Playgirl's Sam Jones. You're welcome.

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by Anonymousreply 19February 15, 2014 2:10 AM

What was he packing?

by Anonymousreply 20February 15, 2014 2:11 AM

Had a huge crush on him during his hey day. Going to meet him at the CHILLER autograph show in April.

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by Anonymousreply 21February 15, 2014 2:12 AM

THE FURY is a classic.

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by Anonymousreply 22February 15, 2014 2:17 AM

I can't believe I once thought he was hot

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by Anonymousreply 23February 15, 2014 2:18 AM

OMG, I want to go to the CHILLER autograph show! It's like DL threads coming to life!

Dean Cain! David Faustino! Ronee Blakely! Mary Woronov! Jacky the Jokeman!

by Anonymousreply 24February 15, 2014 2:18 AM

He's awfully short. Maybe that derailed his career.

by Anonymousreply 25February 15, 2014 2:39 AM

Holy shit--that Chiller line up is INSANE, indeed.

Gay David Chokachi! Former hottie Costas Mandylor...Meryl Streep lookalike Kim Myers...Cathy Rigby!

Nellie Olson...and PJ SOLES!!

by Anonymousreply 26February 15, 2014 2:42 AM

I loved him in an early 80's film called The Seduction with the ageless and glorious, Morgan Fairchild. Dionne Warwick sang the haunting theme song.

by Anonymousreply 27February 15, 2014 2:44 AM

Is he hung in relation to his height? He was in possession of a tight little ass back in the day.

by Anonymousreply 28February 15, 2014 2:46 AM

LOL at r28!

by Anonymousreply 29February 15, 2014 2:59 AM

I don't think he was universally considered hot. He usually looks mad, which made some people think he was ugly. Only the far hotter and more talented Harrison Ford could get away with constantly scowling.

by Anonymousreply 30February 15, 2014 2:59 AM

[quote]OMG, I want to go to the CHILLER autograph show! It's like DL threads coming to life!

That's only the preliminary line up... more to come.

by Anonymousreply 31February 15, 2014 12:12 PM

[quote] he is extremely fucked up, especially with regards to his mother Connie Stevens, with whom he practically has an Oedipal fixation

That's gross. I remember he guest starred in one Murder She Wrote episode where he tried to get into JB's panties. Now I know why he was so convicing in that role.

by Anonymousreply 32February 15, 2014 4:48 PM

"he is extremely fucked up, especially with regards to his mother Connie Stevens"

Again it is STELLA Stevens.

by Anonymousreply 33February 15, 2014 5:07 PM

Kate Jackson said about her marriage to Stevens, that he backed his car up to her bank account, filled up his trunk and drove off.

by Anonymousreply 34February 15, 2014 5:17 PM

Had a major crush on him circa The Fury.

by Anonymousreply 35February 15, 2014 5:50 PM

What did his ass look like?

by Anonymousreply 36February 15, 2014 7:48 PM

That Chiller show looks magnificent. I am surprised that some of the actors on that list do autograph shows.

by Anonymousreply 37February 15, 2014 8:05 PM

The Fury trailer:

the woman therapist is the same one who treated Katharine Ross in The Stepford Wives!!!

by Anonymousreply 38February 16, 2014 1:14 AM

Seems to have done pretty well for himself behind the scenes with his own production company. Cheap product out, cha-ching, cha-ching.

Looks like he's had some (bad) work done.

How did I miss 'Mongolian Death Worm' ??

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by Anonymousreply 39February 16, 2014 1:23 AM

Massacre at Central High is another very effective low budget cult movie he was in. He played a weak character who fell in with the bullies who ruled the high school.

by Anonymousreply 40February 16, 2014 1:23 AM

For those of you jumping all over the OP for "took off," pause for a minute and contemplate that English is likely his second (or maybe 3rd or nth language). An extremely common mistake that non-native speakers make is conjugating irregular past tense verbs when used in a negative tense. They rehearsed and learned all the irregular verbs and they really stuck. Hence the "career didn't took off." Or, as another example, "Denis Ten didn't made any mistakes in his long program yesterday."

Believe me, I've taught ESL and seen/heard Ph.D. candidates from other countries commonly slip and make the mistake.

by Anonymousreply 41February 16, 2014 1:25 AM

[quote]Again it is STELLA Stevens.

When someone quoted that sentence again (that had been corrected), did you suppose the same mistake was actually being made a second time?

by Anonymousreply 42February 16, 2014 1:27 AM

Fook off, R41

by Anonymousreply 43February 16, 2014 1:33 AM

You must be a Scouse, R43, and not have any articulation abilities beyond what you've just demonstrated. Why don't you go practice diction with Jamie Carragher?

by Anonymousreply 44February 16, 2014 1:39 AM

I like his dad, Cat.

by Anonymousreply 45February 16, 2014 1:40 AM

[quote](2) he is extremely fucked up, especially with regards to his mother (Stella) Stevens, with whom he practically has an Oedipal fixation

Of course he does--wouldn't you?

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by Anonymousreply 46February 16, 2014 1:40 AM

Fook Yu, r43!

by Anonymousreply 47February 16, 2014 1:43 AM

rumor was he had a sizable dingus.

by Anonymousreply 48February 16, 2014 2:52 AM

Kate Jackson is a lesbian! She was the most obvious lez lez I ever met the day I met her in 1982!

Andrew Stevens was too pretty and didn't capture the public's imagination, I guess. He seemed very gay too.

by Anonymousreply 49February 16, 2014 4:04 AM

I remember The Bastard. For a good little Catholic boy, using a naughty word as the title of a show was, to me, thrilling. I would tell my God-fearing mother that I wanted to watch "The Bastard" at every opportunity, which drove her to distraction.

by Anonymousreply 50February 16, 2014 4:47 AM

I gather he actually fucked Angela Lansbury during the Murder She Wrote years.

by Anonymousreply 51February 16, 2014 5:11 AM

Why Didn't Andrew Stevens' Career 'TAKE' Off ?

(Took Off ? Jesus !! Did you done went to the movies too ? Did you drank your milk ? Your killing me.)

by Anonymousreply 52February 16, 2014 5:19 AM

I remember a photo where he showed pubic hair. Link?

by Anonymousreply 53February 16, 2014 5:48 AM

Kate Jackson is a hoarder now, supposedly.

by Anonymousreply 54February 16, 2014 5:48 AM

because he couldn't act for shit.

by Anonymousreply 55February 16, 2014 5:52 AM

More beefcake.

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by Anonymousreply 56February 17, 2014 12:00 AM

He directed his mom STELLA Stevens in some crappy Skinamax film where she gets fucked --on a pool table as I remember- must have been some quality family time on the set!

The Seduction on the other hand is a real favorite. It opens with Morgan Fairchild swimming on her back -naked- with her pointy breasts sticking straight up. Creepy Andrew Stevens says "I like watching you" and Fairchild purrs back "I like being watched!"

by Anonymousreply 57February 17, 2014 12:15 AM

Why didn't Andrew Keegan's career took off ??

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by Anonymousreply 58February 17, 2014 12:22 AM

I think Andrew's feathered haircut fell out of favor. He should have shaved his head and gone for a punk look.

by Anonymousreply 59February 17, 2014 12:25 AM

R41, you're my hero!

You're right-English is not my native langauge (Euro datalounger here!). I realized I've made a huge mistake right after I posted it and to make matters worse it had to be in the thread title itself! I was actually thinking about "oh dearing" myself but there's no fun in that. Besides, you gotta give our beloved grammar trolls something to live for.

And it's nice to see this debate about Stevens TOOK OFF quite nicely (happy now, bitches?!).

by Anonymousreply 60February 17, 2014 12:43 AM

He was very hot back in the day. He reminds me a tad of Billy Bush.

He was also in the Charles Bronson flick 10 To Midnight.

by Anonymousreply 61February 17, 2014 1:12 AM

He was in a good little early low budget 90s flick called Deadly Innocents

by Anonymousreply 62February 17, 2014 1:18 AM

You rock, OP!

Are we sure his mother wasn't Stella Adler? Or maybe K.T. Stevens?

by Anonymousreply 63February 17, 2014 1:20 AM

Why Stella, R63?

by Anonymousreply 64February 17, 2014 1:20 AM

His mom is Stella Stevens, not Connie Stevens.

by Anonymousreply 65February 17, 2014 1:25 AM

Connie Francis? Stella Dallas?

by Anonymousreply 66February 17, 2014 1:35 AM

r53 I have a coupla shots of him filling out a pair of white briefs quite handsomely, but I don't know how to insert images here.

by Anonymousreply 67February 17, 2014 1:47 AM

[quote]I realized I've made a huge mistake right after I posted it and to make matters worse it had to be in the thread title itself!

It's strange, but we seem to get more mistakes in the titles than in the text of the post. I think people double-check their posts but OPs don't go back to look over the title.

by Anonymousreply 68February 17, 2014 2:09 AM

That actress who played the therapist in The Fury and The Stepford Wives is Carol Rossen. She was married to Hal Holbrook pre--Dixie. In the 1980s, she was jogging in LA when a man attacked her and stabbed her several times. She played dead and he went away and someone found her. She survived and wrote a book about her survival.

by Anonymousreply 69February 17, 2014 2:35 AM

Can't anybody post the shower scene from Night Eyes? To die for.

by Anonymousreply 70February 17, 2014 2:41 AM

Is the [italic]Night Eyes[/italic] series on DVD?

The 1990s soft-core genre was fantastic! In addition to Andrew Stevens, we got to see the asses of plenty Grade-Z celeb actors like Martin Hewitt and Marc Singer.

by Anonymousreply 71February 17, 2014 8:40 AM

Actor Dan Stevens of Downton Abbey fame is his nephew.

by Anonymousreply 72February 17, 2014 5:35 PM

I believe Night Eyes was the first unrated nonporn to go into VHS. Correct me if I'm wrong. There were R-rated and unrated versions, and I still have the VHS of the non rated. That crack in his butt is worth going to war over.

by Anonymousreply 73February 17, 2014 6:26 PM

r49, how did you meet her? Details please.

by Anonymousreply 74February 17, 2014 7:01 PM

Anyone remember the scene he was in in Shampoo? Wearing just a towel.

by Anonymousreply 75February 17, 2014 7:18 PM

[quote]A male friend of mine slept with him. Said Stevens was really screwed up sexually. Gay, but insisted on saying he was straight, even when he was having sex with men. Also had sex with women, but not very successfully

This never happened.

by Anonymousreply 76April 25, 2015 10:22 PM

He looks kinda puny next to Sam Jones.

by Anonymousreply 77April 25, 2015 10:51 PM

Looks, 10. Dance, 3

Handsome, but not very talented. At least not in the acting department.

by Anonymousreply 78April 25, 2015 10:57 PM

R76 is Stevens' PR team.

by Anonymousreply 79April 25, 2015 11:00 PM

[quote]THE BASTARD.

The best part was when Phillipe Charbineux arrived in pre-Revolutionary America and, on the gang plank, decided to change his name to Philip Kent. As soon as his feet hit the US dock, his French accent disappeared.

To carry the point of what camp those books and movies turned out to be, five minutes later, the penniless immigrant Phil was sitting on a curb wondering what to do next when Benjamin Franklin walked by and saw him, declaring something like, "You look like an intelligent, hardworking fellow! Come work in my print shop!"

by Anonymousreply 80April 25, 2015 11:04 PM

His father was Cat Stevens.

by Anonymousreply 81April 25, 2015 11:08 PM

R81: No, he was not. His father was some nobody that Stella Stevens married when she was very young.

Andrew's real first name is HERMAN

by Anonymousreply 82April 25, 2015 11:12 PM

Wasn't he also in the craptastic Hollywood Wives or am I thinking of someone else?

by Anonymousreply 83April 25, 2015 11:19 PM

The Fury is a great movie but it wasn't a box office succsss.

by Anonymousreply 84April 25, 2015 11:29 PM

ahhhhh gossip I know. He fucked over a lot of people. Deep to his core he was manipulative, a hustler, and a grifter. He's ripped off so many people. It's hard when no one will work with you because you can't be trusted. Ask Kate where all her money went.

by Anonymousreply 85April 25, 2015 11:37 PM

R80 I always preferred the SCTV version.

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by Anonymousreply 86April 25, 2015 11:45 PM

Yes, he was in HOLLYWOOD WIVES. Twice. Is that on DVD? I would love to get a copy of that and the Stefanie Powers tvm, DECEPTIONS.

by Anonymousreply 87April 25, 2015 11:59 PM

[6] That's a very hot picture of Andrew he really was an utterly bedable hunk. I remember watching him as Casey Denault in Dallas and he was one of the first men I spend a lot of time wan***get myself over as a newly horny teenager after Sean Connery

[49] I've never really perceived him as gay looking but I'd love it to be true!

by Anonymousreply 88August 18, 2017 6:33 AM

[quote] Yes, he was in HOLLYWOOD WIVES. Twice. Is that on DVD? I would love to get a copy of that and the Stefanie Powers tvm, DECEPTIONS.

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by Anonymousreply 89August 18, 2017 6:48 AM

"[R89] I believe his niche became made for TV erotic thrillers which I think he is perfect for! Even though I am male I can feel myself becoming impregnated just watching him!

by Anonymousreply 90August 18, 2017 6:54 AM

r34

I remember her saying that, seemed odd she'd admit to being so stupid.

by Anonymousreply 91August 18, 2017 6:55 AM

R85 for the win! He tried to copy Roger Corman because he saw that was where the money was. Although I was on he losing end of a financial deal, I suppose the line between grifter/manipulative and simply being a savvy businessman can be rather thin.

The sexuality rumors have been around since the early 80s, but have no first hand knowledge.

by Anonymousreply 92August 18, 2017 7:54 AM

Don't forget 'The Bastard'

by Anonymousreply 93August 18, 2017 8:10 AM

Too short

by Anonymousreply 94August 18, 2017 8:12 AM

[R92] Could it possibly be that rather than him being gay that maybe it was more a case of he was happy to dish out sexual favours and sleep with men with power in Hollywood in order to try and get ahead? That's the kind of thing a grifter would do in Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 95August 18, 2017 1:40 PM

"The Bastard" -- first of a long series of Ukrainian Jewish rewrites of American History. From the same author who did the Ukrainian Jewish rewrite of the Civil War, "North and South."

Typical dialogue:

Philip Kent: Well, I've landed in America and I've Anglicized my name, but here I am in Philadelphia, unemployed and sitting on a curb.

(Enter rotund man with a merry face, stage right): Well, hello young man! Why are you sitting on the curb? I am Benjamin Franklin and with hard work and intelligence, I have become a rich printer and a political force in this fine city! You look like a good lad, get up! Come work in my print shop!

Philip: Okay.

by Anonymousreply 96August 18, 2017 1:57 PM

[quote]Kate Jackson said about her marriage to Stevens, that he backed his car up to her bank account, filled up his trunk and drove off.

Heh!

by Anonymousreply 97August 19, 2017 6:32 PM

Short can sometimes be real sexy [R94] although it didn't seem that short to me in Dallas as Casey Denault.

by Anonymousreply 98August 22, 2017 5:29 AM

I bet he looked grrrreat in a jockstrap.

by Anonymousreply 99August 22, 2017 5:48 AM

John Jakes books were excellent . I recently reread the whole series and they are still entertaining as hell. Andrew was,and still is,fuck gorgeous.

by Anonymousreply 100August 22, 2017 6:06 AM

So how big's his cawk?

by Anonymousreply 101January 3, 2018 1:04 AM

He is 5'10". That's not short. I had a super crush on him in the late 1970s - early 1980s.

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by Anonymousreply 102January 3, 2018 1:27 AM

He's not looking too bad in this recent-ish pic, but the "hair" is tragic.

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by Anonymousreply 103January 3, 2018 2:44 AM

I wish he'd take up acting again. I'd like to see him onscreen in something.

by Anonymousreply 104January 3, 2018 4:52 AM

He IS looking good in r103's pic -- I didn't realize his eyes were blue.

The massive botoxing is just as distracting as the hair, though.

by Anonymousreply 105January 3, 2018 7:00 AM

He's sexy but I agree excessive botox is not a good look.

by Anonymousreply 106January 4, 2018 5:54 PM

His career didn't took off because he really wasn't all that as an actor. Sure, he was cute enough but there were enough mildly-talented pretty boys in Hollywood already. And his looks worked against him - he was too pretty to play average Joes but not hot or tall enough to be a romantic lead.

by Anonymousreply 107January 4, 2018 6:06 PM

Watched his episode of Columbo a few days ago and he really was a terrible actor. Nice to look at, but a terrible actor.

by Anonymousreply 108January 4, 2018 6:16 PM

After looking at R103's pic he can play the older version of The Joker in Gotham.

by Anonymousreply 109January 4, 2018 6:18 PM

Andrew was indeed bi-sexual, or gay.

Favorite 70s trivia - at one time all the Charlie's Angels were married to gay (or bi, or trying to be straight but failing) men -- Andrew Stevens, Lee Majors, and Dennis Cole.

by Anonymousreply 110January 4, 2018 6:26 PM

Kate Jackson - was she truly a horror show? I always liked her. She definitely seemed like a lez

by Anonymousreply 111January 4, 2018 6:46 PM

I always presumed he was gay. Has gayface for days. Doesn't surprise me in the least he's also screwed up. Another Tom B whathisname (no not Tammy).

by Anonymousreply 112January 4, 2018 6:54 PM

After Dark used to salivate over him -- I think one of the images upthread is from it, and that was always an indicator.

by Anonymousreply 113January 4, 2018 6:56 PM

In this pic, at least, he could have played Lady Di (in the engagement period when her hair was still a little darker) more realistically than Naomi Watts.

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by Anonymousreply 114January 4, 2018 7:09 PM

That was an impressive ass.

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by Anonymousreply 115January 4, 2018 8:06 PM

Beautiful [R115] Thanks for posting! I bet he's a great lay šŸ˜

by Anonymousreply 116January 4, 2018 8:12 PM

R110 A close friend in the 1980s told me he hooked up with Andrew Stevens in the late 1970s just before The Fury came out.

by Anonymousreply 117January 5, 2018 12:03 AM

[quote]He is 5'10". That's not short. I had a super crush on him in the late 1970s - early 1980s.

Did meet him at Chiller and he's not 5'10". I am and he was standing next to me having his picture taken with the guy in front of me. 5'8" more like it and he did look good.

by Anonymousreply 118January 5, 2018 1:44 AM

As a horny young teenager with Cinemax, I jerked off to so many of his movies.

by Anonymousreply 119January 5, 2018 2:48 AM

He was fucked up when his mother Inger committed suicide.

by Anonymousreply 120January 5, 2018 3:23 AM

he was/is a darlin....

great ass/tasty cock.

by Anonymousreply 121January 5, 2018 3:27 AM

Your friend is very lucky [R117] Did they say how good in bed Andrew Stevens was?

by Anonymousreply 122January 5, 2018 3:43 AM

True Story: When I was a young gayling in NYC, age 21, I got an internship at a talent agency that represented some big movie and stars. Hollywood Wives had finished airing on ABC the night before and was a huge ratings success. Andrew Stevens was a client of the agency, but out in LA. I got to work that morning and the scuttlebutt was that he was in NY and would be coming into the office to meet the agents. I was the overworked dispensable intern so I was paid little attention to. Imagine my shock when one of the assistants came to my cubbyhole to ask me a favor, "Hey, Andrew Stevens is 15 minutes early for his appointment and we're not ready for him. Do you think you can keep him occupied for awhile?" (I practically shit in my pants).

So I was led into the small corner office where he was all by himself, waiting. Fortunately, I had watched the miniseries so I had no problem getting him to talk about it. Of course, I would have loved to have entertained him in other ways. haha

And he was fucking hot!

by Anonymousreply 123January 5, 2018 6:18 AM

You lucky devil [R123]! I bet he oozed sexual magnetism!

by Anonymousreply 124January 5, 2018 5:25 PM

I say he got lucky he got his mother Samatha's good looks and not daddy Darrin's ugly mug. Is he a warlock?

by Anonymousreply 125January 5, 2018 5:29 PM

His mother is Stella Stevens, not Connie Stevens.

by Anonymousreply 126February 5, 2018 12:46 AM

Diahann Carroll has sunk very low. Chiller autograph convention??

by Anonymousreply 127February 5, 2018 1:05 AM

I would have eaten his ass until I got to his small intestines.

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by Anonymousreply 128February 5, 2018 1:27 AM

he's got big balls and hefty cock in that speedo.

by Anonymousreply 129February 5, 2018 1:28 AM

Wow in those jeans too. packing.

by Anonymousreply 130February 5, 2018 1:29 AM

r126, meet r4, r11, r33, r57, and r65.

by Anonymousreply 131February 5, 2018 1:38 AM

Considering his minimal talent he's had a career most actors would kill to have. It may not have been Oscar blockbuters good but it was perfectly fine.

by Anonymousreply 132February 5, 2018 1:39 AM

Why does everyone mention their friend but not tell us if said friend is male or female?

by Anonymousreply 133April 19, 2019 12:56 PM

Well, he's had "teenybopper fanmag" good looks as a youngster but never "leading man" looks like Harrison Ford or Mel Gibson.

by Anonymousreply 134April 19, 2019 1:51 PM

R131 THANK YOU. My God it gets tedious when people don't read the thread. Also his father was NOT Cat Stevens. To the 2 people who posted that. Why post bullshit?? I don't get it.

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