Whose undeserved fame annoys you the most?
Worst case of nepotism in Hollywood?
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Jaden Smith, ahoy! Anyone who's seen "After Earth" would understand fully.
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OP--are you a frustrated actor? Do you like to tell yourself you didn't succeed because other people had an unfair advantage?
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Jaden ruined the remake of The Day the Earth Stood Still. The little shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||01/24/2014|
Cage annoys me because you could pick people randomly off the street and 90% of the time get a better performance. And yet he keeps getting work.
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Annette Bening. Terrible actress who is consistently the worst part of any picture she does. But she keeps getting work because for some unknown reason, Hollywood feels they must kiss her husbands ass.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||01/24/2014|
[quote]Cage annoys me because you could pick people randomly off the street and 90% of the time get a better performance. And yet he keeps getting work.
Maybe, but no thanks to uncle Francis, who can barely get a movie financed these days.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||01/24/2014|
Outdoing all the "I'm 60 but look 24 years old" bitches on DL, the Joan Crawford appearance on 'The Secret Storm', proving Mommie was not always good with soaps.
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|by Anonymous||reply 10||01/24/2014|
There are lots of egregious cases of nepotism in Hollywood--some of them I don't mind so much because the person who benefits is decently talented. I don't think anyone has minded Leslie Mann getting good roles in Judd Apatow's films (she is a decent comic actress), or when Mia Farrow got such great roles in Woody Allen's films when they were together (since she is an excellent actress).
The problem is when you get a terrible or charisma-free actor getting good parts because of their relation to the director or movie star behind the film: Barbara Bosson always getting great roles in Stephen Bochco's TV series and the talentless Sherri Moon Zombie always getting the female lead in Rob Zombie's films.
Probably the 2 worst examples I can think of are Sofia Coppola in "Godfather 3" and Jaden Smith in "After earth." In both instances, the father winded up holding up the child to popular ridicule because it was so obvious the child did not have the talent or charisma required to carry off the role.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||01/24/2014|
Back in the day Nic Cage could indeed act if he had a director who could rein him in, and also had a first-class body. So I actually like him very much in films where he gets to be sexy and controls his hamminess (such as "Red Rock West"--God, his ass back then in tight jeans!-- or "Moonstruck").
The trouble is that he got fat as he got older and started becoming a caricature of himself in terms of the scenery chewing.
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|by Anonymous||reply 13||01/24/2014|
Of course I won't come up here, because everyone knows I made it through my dazzling looks and acting talent.
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Jason Reitman and the Landis kid
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|by Anonymous||reply 16||01/24/2014|
Jaden Smith has no equal, but Tori Spelling and Luke Russert are a close second and third.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||01/24/2014|
Nobody beats Jaden Smith at this game
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[quote]The problem is when you get a terrible or charisma-free actor getting good parts because of their relation to the director or movie star behind the film: Barbara Bosson always getting great roles in Stephen Bochco's TV series and the talentless Sherri Moon Zombie always getting the female lead in Rob Zombie's films.
The patron saint of all these ladies is Sheila Mathews (Who?! Exactly). She was married to disaster-film director Irwin Allen. So the next time you watch "The Towering Inferno", and you say to yourself, "who is this zaftig extra in the hot pink gown and big blonde bouffant, and why does she get to stand next to Dunaway and Holden and McQueen during all the big dramatic moments?"--well, now you have the answer.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||01/24/2014|
Another big case: Lorraine Gary, the wife of entertainment executive Sidney Sheinberg, who got good roles in the Jaws movies and 1941 because her husband discovered Steven Spielberg.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||01/24/2014|
R7, Annette was an Oscar nominated actress before hooking up with Beatty and most of her success came after Beatty became completely irrelevant in Hollywood.
You might think she's terrible, but her success isn't because of Warren. If anything, since she missed the prime years for an actress because of pregnancy, he hindered her career.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||01/24/2014|
Tori Spelling..if she did not have that Jewish last name, she would be working at GoldenArches or with that face, collecting unemployment.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||01/24/2014|
Not one mention of no-talent right wing asshole Melissa Rivers?
|by Anonymous||reply 23||01/24/2014|
Does the "Today" show count?
|by Anonymous||reply 24||01/24/2014|
Sam Robards, son of Jason Robards & (I think) Lauren Bacall
|by Anonymous||reply 25||01/24/2014|
R13 has it. What a mess that thing is. Of course, her parents aren't in show business, but their "art" - dad's sex crap and the mother's sicko doll photos - make some sense of their anxiety-riddles, OCD-diagnosed mess of a gal.
Although she is talented, right? Right?
|by Anonymous||reply 26||01/24/2014|
Leslie Mann owns this thread.
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|by Anonymous||reply 28||01/24/2014|
How quickly we forget
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|by Anonymous||reply 30||01/24/2014|
All of these are true!
|by Anonymous||reply 31||01/24/2014|
Lucy Arnez and Desi Arnez Jr.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||01/24/2014|
I didn't get any help when *I* came to Hollywood.
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|by Anonymous||reply 35||01/24/2014|
Shit, R32...I was going to mention those two!
But it's Arnaz, not Arnez
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R33: Yes, just a little Georgie...from Dad Nick & Auntie Rosemary.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||01/24/2014|
Anyone think that twatty Paris Hilton got whatever celebri-douche status she has, from her Daddy's money?
|by Anonymous||reply 38||01/24/2014|
Bobby Brown; he'd be as over as the rest of New Edition if it weren't for Whitney.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||01/24/2014|
R39: well, isn't he over?
|by Anonymous||reply 40||01/24/2014|
Enrique Iglesias thinks he's made it solely on the basis of his stellar singing talents. Uh-huh.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||01/24/2014|
Jane Fonda and Drew Barrymore. Period.
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A lot of these people are deeply talented.
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r40 True; I guess I meant to say he would've been over much earlier (like in the late-80s) if not for Whitney
|by Anonymous||reply 45||01/24/2014|
Another vote for Drew Barrymore. That lisp is so distracting.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||01/24/2014|
R44 = Tallulah Willis
|by Anonymous||reply 47||01/24/2014|
Hard to say who is the worst BUT I can point out two that annoy the sh*t out of most people:
WILL SMITH'S kids and ALL of FRANCIS FORD COPPOLA'S relatives !!
|by Anonymous||reply 48||01/24/2014|
Whoever that ugly incompetent bitch was who magically got the female lead in Magic Mike because her Daddy ran the studio.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||01/24/2014|
Jaden Smith owns this thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||01/24/2014|
r49 It boggles my mind that THOSE WERE THE GOOD TAKES. No wonder Soderbergh retired. Can you imagine having to see that thing do 4 or 5 takes? I honestly can't think of a worse performance in a good film in the last 5 years.
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Any Kardashian and Kelly Osborne
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|by Anonymous||reply 53||01/24/2014|
Washington DC: It's Hollywood for ugly people.
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Kristen Stewart. She has one speed: bored.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||01/24/2014|
The rise and almost immediate fall of the Gummer Sisters.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||01/25/2014|
No more calls! We have a winner!
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|by Anonymous||reply 58||01/25/2014|
The fact that we even know the name B. D. Hyman is disgusting.
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|by Anonymous||reply 61||01/25/2014|
Chaz, nee Chastity, Bono
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|by Anonymous||reply 65||08/27/2014|
Annette is a gifted actress who was on Broadway long before she ever met Warren.
I am in casting and I have to say the most persistent over nepotistic push I have EVER scene has been done on behalf of Meryl's girls.
This happens all the time but her kids just don't have the goods.
These two very nice lovely but not very talented girls are represented by CAA who push them with mafia like intimidation.
And it works. These girls would never get into my office based on their own merits.
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|by Anonymous||reply 67||08/27/2014|
Nicolas Cage, Jason Schwartzmann
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Enrique Iglesias hair.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||08/27/2014|
Someone probably named her before me, but for me the winner is Sofia Coppola who destroyed the already heavily flawed The Godfather part III with her shitty acting. I'm also not crazy about her directorial efforts. The only thing she ever made that I liked was Marie Antoinette, but that's probably because I'm a sucker for 1980's tunes.
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|by Anonymous||reply 71||08/27/2014|
Jake Gyllenhaal. Quite series of failed attempts to make him happen. They tried so hard to make him badass and edgy. I don't mind his sister though.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||08/27/2014|
I liked Inventing the Abbotts, which Sofia directed. But what's not to like with Billy Crudup and Joanna Going? And Joaq, if you like Joaq?
|by Anonymous||reply 73||08/27/2014|
Sofia Coppola in Godfather 3 is an embarrassment to everyone who thought it was ok to hire her.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||08/27/2014|
I love Jake. He makes me believe nepotism is sometimes a good thing.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||08/27/2014|
R30 Really? I am one of the few people who still watch Grey's Anatomy and Jessica has easily been one of the best things about it for the last few years.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||08/27/2014|
R74 She was only in Godfather 3 because Winona Ryder got sick and they needed a last minute replacement.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||08/27/2014|
Funny, all these mentions of Jaden Smith but not Willow. Or she not count as Hollywood because she's more of a singer?
Would it be racist of me to say that that girl is butt ugly? She looks like an in-drag version of her dad as a child.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||08/27/2014|
Agreed, R76. I really like Arizona. Callie, too.
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|by Anonymous||reply 80||08/27/2014|
r73 Sofia Coppola had nothing to do with Inventing the Abbotts.
I think the movie you mean is the Virgin Suicides, starring Kirsten Dunst, Josh Hartnett and Kathleen Turner. Sofia wrote and directed that movie which came out in 1999. I liked it a lot.
While I've never been impressed by Sofia's acting, I have enjoyed her directing. She also did Lost in Translation, Marie Antoinette and the Bling Ring.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||08/27/2014|
Nicolas Cage, Angelina Jolie, the Smith kids, George Clooney, Sofia Coppola
Annette Bening deserved her GG for The Kids Are All Right, she was amazing in that one. Goop is a very fine actress, but I am sure being god daughter to Spielberg doesn't hurt.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||08/27/2014|
And Sofia was the only available "actress" willing to or interested in working with Coppola?? He hadn't seen any other actresses auditioning for the part?? Come on!
|by Anonymous||reply 83||08/27/2014|
"Funny, all these mentions of Jaden Smith but not Willow. Or she not count as Hollywood because she's more of a singer?"
She isn't being handed leading roles in Major Motion Pictures, unlike her no-talent brother. Okay, they tried to put in the "Annie" remake but that fell through; they said she turned it down but she was more likely fired.
I can't imagine what life is like for those kids; two narcissistic egomaniac Hollywood parents who expect the kids to be movie stars. I know what narcissistic parents are like, in private those kids are probably being told they're useless and unworthy, because they're not box-office champions.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||08/27/2014|
Don't blame Sofia Coppola for "Godfather 3". Her father pushed her into the role when Ryder fell out; maybe he was so far up his own ass that he thought he could direct an untrained person to a great performance, or maybe he just wanted someone who'd do what she was told.
Nepotism may have helped Sofia's career as a director, but she did quit acting rather than behave like a Gummer sister.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||08/27/2014|
R84 I think you are imaging what their lives are like.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||08/27/2014|
Thank you, Francis R81. I wonder why I thought that.
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|by Anonymous||reply 88||08/27/2014|
MacKenzie Phillips - and talk about biting the hand that fucked you!
|by Anonymous||reply 89||08/27/2014|
The weirdest thing about Sofia Coppola's casting in TGIII is that there was no protest from the studio about it. The story goes that she was taking a shower when she received a call from her dad and two hours later she was already filming on the set. But aren't screen tests for such huge productions almost mandatory? Even Brando had to take one before being cast as Don Corleone. Maybe Coppola was such a big name back then that no one dared to doubt in him?
Come to think of it, the Coppola family functioned a lot like the Corleone family-once they had their man on the right position (Francis) he gave jobs to his dad, his sister, his daughter, his son, his sister's brats, his nephew Nicolas...All members of his dynasty were one-hit wonders (Talia Shire and Nicolas Cage faded pretty quickly, and Sophia hasn't had a hit movie in years) and were averagly talented at their best. I'm sure anyone who dared to defy Francis when he was still untouchable would wake up with a horse's head in his bed.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||08/27/2014|
Re: Angelina Jolie - She was such a knockout stunner she probably would have made it without having Jon Voight for a dad. Even if he really helped her get her foot in the door once, you can hardly say he's been responsible for the rest of her career.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||08/27/2014|
[quote]Re: Angelina Jolie - She was such a knockout stunner
I always thought she looked like a bug.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||08/27/2014|
Inventing the Abbots came out in 1997, Virgin Suicides in 1999. They both deal with dysfunction families, both had up and coming actresses (Liv Tyler and Kirsten Dunst, respectively). Both had up and coming male leads (Billy Crudrup, Josh Hartnett) Both were very well received by critics and audiences (although neither was a box office smash).
Confusing the two is not that strange.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||08/27/2014|
Angelina Jolie's career has a lot to do with finding a good plastic surgeon, botox injections and pimping her kids.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||08/27/2014|
"Back in the day Nic Cage could indeed act if he had a director who could rein him in, and also had a first-class body."
Agreed. I also agree about that awful woman in "Magic Mike." I think it's a very good movie overall, but I've heard lots of people badmouth it, and I think that's largely because of the unbelievably bad performance of that one "actress."
|by Anonymous||reply 95||08/27/2014|
R93, thank you, sweetie.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||08/27/2014|
R92 and R94=Jennifer Aniston
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The cast of Girls
|by Anonymous||reply 98||08/27/2014|
R92 You are gay, you don't get her.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||08/27/2014|
Watch "Peggy Sue Got Married" and you'll see how nuts Coppola got with his daughter. Casting her as the sister of Kathleen Turner and daughter of Barbara Harris and Don Murray -- so OF COURSE it makes sense when this ugly little big nosed Italian kid shows up in the family. Looking like absolutely NOBODY else.
I'm sure Wynona Ryder bowed out of that one too.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||08/27/2014|
Celebitchy board is offline today sweetie?
|by Anonymous||reply 101||08/27/2014|
Funny thing is, Winona Ryder doesn't really look Italian, does she? Or was her dark hair enough?
|by Anonymous||reply 102||08/27/2014|
The latter, R102.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||08/27/2014|
Absolutely: Tori Spelling.
Tracey Ellis Ross, Diana's daughter
No one wants to mention Liza Minelli?
Tom Hanks's really ugly son Colin
Priscilla & Lisa Presley
|by Anonymous||reply 104||08/27/2014|
How did GOOP become Steven Spielberg's goddaughter? She was born in 72 when he was a no-name tv director. That little Jewish weasel sure got himself in with the Hollywood elite. What did he become her godfather while they were filming Hook? Anything to be accepted and to play the Hollywood system.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||08/27/2014|
r90, Coppola might have had a final say clause over casting. A lot of bullshit maneuvering can happen around it, but it is legally binding. Many A list directors have this; Coppola would not be a surprise.
Don't forget that the character also narrows the acting pool. Add to that availability and time constraints, and he might have had little choice.
I'm not defending him, but it's possible his hands were tied.
I've never forgiven him for destoying Apocalypse Now with bad casting. Sheen particularly ruined that fucking movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||08/27/2014|
[quote] OF COURSE it makes sense when this ugly little big nosed Italian kid shows up in the family. Looking like absolutely NOBODY else.
Aaron Spelling used to cast one dusky kid in all his WASP-o TV families.
Dad called it the Jew in the Woodpile.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||08/27/2014|
Speaking of Martin Sheen, he's to blame for the inexplicable omnipresence of Charlie Sheen.
Why that withered psychotic is still working is beyond me. There must be a deal with Satan involved.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||08/27/2014|
Neil Simon's ex wife Marsha Mason. Once they split up her acting career was finished.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||08/27/2014|
r108, that withered psychotic was the subject of a barely veiled blind item about a celebrity son who was a decent, nice kid until he was abused by the system. His father basically let him be exploited (implied abuse) until the son became an addict and a monster.
He also is a good actor when he's (relatively) sober, and can do drama and comedy. The latter particularly is considered hard to teach. You either have the timing or you don't.
The sympathy for his situation, and the fact he is talented enough to make people money, is why he's still around.
I think the public do sense there's a modicum of decency left, especially when he's sober.
This is his ice bucket challenge.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||08/27/2014|
Somewhere was the biggest pile of crap I have ever seen (along with Tree Of Life), Coppola is WAY overrated as a director. If she hadn't gotten Bill Murray for Lost in Translation that movie would not have worked. Sorry but SC is a joke.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||08/27/2014|
r111, in fairness, it might be just a case of a writer defending her work by directing it.
Sometimes that's the only way to ensure it doesn't get fucked with, especially in Hollywood.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||08/27/2014|
The only 2 SC films I've seen are Virgin Suicides and Lost in Translation.
Virgin Suicides was boring beyond belief.
Lost in Translation I found very enjoyable (especially the music), but I never saw it again after it came out and have no desire to. Still I thought I would love it more, at the time. Meaning craving to re-watch it.
All her other films never felt the urge to see any of them. Marie-Antoinette felt vaguely obligated but never made the effort.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||08/27/2014|
It could be. The dreamlike quality of her work would best be suited to music videos, IMO.
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|by Anonymous||reply 115||08/27/2014|
Miss Coppola's career as a relevant and A-list movie director is pretty much over - her next project is "The Little Mermaid" starring Andrej(a) Pejic.
It's only a matter of time before she starts directing Bertolli commercials and music videos for hipster LA bands.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||08/27/2014|
You bitches need to get over Sofia already! She, like R116 said, is pretty much over. But now there's a 4th generation Coppola brat already making her way into Hollywood.
Meet Gia Coppola, a film director, screenwriter and actress. She's 27 but looks like she's in her early 40s.
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|by Anonymous||reply 118||08/27/2014|
That's 27? Shit. I'm 36 and I look fresher.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||08/27/2014|
The worst case of nepotism in Hollywood is all of the people we don't know by name who get the open jobs at the studios and production companies and opportunities in front of the camera or behind just because they know someone, are well connected, or are the offspring of someone famous. Instead of bringing people from outside of the system to reinvigorate it and contribute something knew, they turn inward, almost always. Anthony Minghella's daughter was a studio big shot before she was 30. Harvey Weinstein's extended family probably works with him. Malia Obama got a pa job on a Spielberg set with no film background whatsoever. The examples are endless.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||08/27/2014|
When Malia Obama expresses interest in being on your film set, what do you do? Send her home to work on her resume?
|by Anonymous||reply 121||08/27/2014|
r121, you politely decline and suggest another job, like in the production office, not on the set.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||08/27/2014|
Wasn't Jeffrey Katzenberg a major contributor to Obama's campaign?
|by Anonymous||reply 123||08/27/2014|
But Spielberg has made a career of being a kiss ass. So of course he would have the Potus daughter on his set. She's important and it makes him look good in the public eye.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||08/27/2014|
Nancy, Tina and Frank Sinatra, Jr.
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Gary Lewis, son of Jerry.
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|by Anonymous||reply 127||08/27/2014|
r124, if you're a power suck-up, sure.
But to answer r121's question, i.e. is there a way you keep it off the set while being politic, then r122 is the answer.
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Princess Lee Radziwill
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|by Anonymous||reply 131||08/27/2014|
allison williams jaden smith and his sister melissa rivers desi arnaz jr. gwenny benning gyllenhall(s) I would also nominate Julia Louis Dryfuss. whose family are zillionaires, always nice for an entry into show biz. any kardashian clint eastwood's children bruce willis' children
So many to choose from!
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It helps if your Jewish.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||08/27/2014|
Your Jewish what?
|by Anonymous||reply 134||08/27/2014|
I think anon meant
U spel gud, anon.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||08/27/2014|
[quote]Another big case: Lorraine Gary, the wife of entertainment executive Sidney Sheinberg, who got good roles in the Jaws movies and 1941 because her husband discovered Steven Spielberg.
But what ELSE did he do?
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Jesus of Nazareth
|by Anonymous||reply 137||08/27/2014|
A bazillion votes for any Kardashian.
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|by Anonymous||reply 139||08/27/2014|
so true, R139, they are both terribly smug and of only ordinary talent
|by Anonymous||reply 140||08/27/2014|
In Maggie G's case, I think she is actually quite good in the few things I've seen her in. I've been watching The Honourable Woman and she's terrific in it. That face, however. It just does not film well from several (most?) angles. I don't think she's ugly, but she does not have the conventional good looks that most actresses are expected have. That is the obstacle nepotism helped her overcome. An equally talented actress with the same look but without the connections wouldn't get a glance from a casting director.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||08/27/2014|
Her acting was awful but Sofia Coppola is an amazing director. Just (finally) watched "Marie Antoinette" and it's gorgeous. Loved "Virgin Suicides" upon watching again. She has her own style and it works.
For some reason, the nepotism that felt most "down our throat" pushed was that Bryce Dallas Howard out of nowhere. Mainly because of that tired conceit that "nobody knew who she was" when they cast her, yeah, right, CAA repping this unknown and they didn't see her grow up around Daddy on the set. So disingenuous. She might be quite sweet (like her dad) but I never wanted to root for her because of that shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||08/27/2014|
I can't watch Maggie Gyllenhaal in anything. Her face looks like it's melting. I don't think she's that talented as an actress, either. I think her brother's fine, though.
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|by Anonymous||reply 144||08/27/2014|
ummm miley anyone?
|by Anonymous||reply 145||08/27/2014|
Rob Reiner-thanks to dad
Penny Marshall-thanks to big bro
|by Anonymous||reply 146||08/27/2014|
What an odd little thread!
|by Anonymous||reply 147||08/27/2014|
R144 , Whitney Houston was many things but undeserving of her fame was not one of 'em. She was one crazy, coked-up bitch but let's face it...the gal could sing her ass off. Cissy & Aunt Dionne taught her well.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||08/27/2014|
Julia Louis-Dreyfus?? Are you INSANE? The woman is talented beyond belief.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||08/27/2014|
Rob Reiner owns this thread. I remember watching a profile on him on the Princess Bride extras and basically all they could say was: "he's a great director. He shows up on time, knows what we're going to shoot today..."
So basically he isn't a dick, and he's pleasant enough to work with.
Wow! Talk about vision!
That said, I enjoyed Misery. And I get that Princess Bride is the phenomenon that it is.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||08/27/2014|
I see nepotism everywhere, except in STEM-professions/hard-science, where actual skill/talent is crucial in order to do the job.
Even in the arts a lot of people are successful because they are well-connected (trust-fund kids starting rock bands, etc.).
|by Anonymous||reply 151||08/27/2014|
Actually, he's kind of famous for being a dick too. Hence, no Oscar nominations ever even when he made some popular films ("A Few Good Men" was up for Best Picture but he was ignored).
I knew him because he refused to guarantee an end date for Meg Ryan on "Harry and Sally" so she could do Shelby in "Steel Magnolias". So Julia Roberts was "born".
|by Anonymous||reply 152||08/27/2014|
If you've got more to spill, go right ahead, R152.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||08/27/2014|
If any one of you frigid queens even thinks about mentioning my name in this thread we'll discuss the matter privately in a calm, civilized manner in the elevator!
|by Anonymous||reply 154||08/27/2014|
Who are Julia Louis Dreyfuss' famous relatives?
|by Anonymous||reply 155||08/28/2014|
None, she just comes from a very wealthy family. Takes nothing away from her talent. The woman is funny, smart, gorgeous and is sexy too.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||08/28/2014|
Well that's not really nepotism then r156. It's privilege but not really nepotism.
(although she probably did only get hired for SNL because of her boyfriend now husband)
|by Anonymous||reply 157||08/28/2014|
From what I get mostly assholes have hiring power on SNL. And, agreed, that's definitely privilege and not nepotism.
Watching Veep and other Julia Louis-Dreyfus videos I have to wonder how much of a no-need-to-work you need to have to be able to deliver such consistently good performances, which are really out of the park.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||08/28/2014|
Director John Huston's progeny: Anjelica, Jack and Danny.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||08/28/2014|
R66 thanks for the insider gossip. I've wondered about Meryl's girls. Any more insider casting goss?
R158, I agree Julia Louis Dreyfus is great. And really attractive. She must have a small ego to go on Seinfeld and allow them to dress her like a total frump for over a decade when she had that killer body underneath. Anyway she's been consistently good in whatever she's been in. And she must do it for the love of acting since she's clearly never ever had to work.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||08/28/2014|
I don't mind nepotism if the offspring are in fact talented. The Smith spawn are NOT.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||08/28/2014|
r151 shut the fuck up you unemployed engineer piece of shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||08/28/2014|
Julia Louis-Dreyfuss, Whitney Houston, hell, even Maggie G., and Gwynnie all benefitted from nepotism, but also had the talent to take the opportunities they got instead of others and build their own bodies of work from them. As mentioned, it really is only a problem when the lucky relative is talentless and wholly undeserving. But everyone hires people they know over people they don't when they are in a position to do so, whether it be family or friends.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||08/28/2014|
Melanie Griffith is bad case of nepotism.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||08/28/2014|
[quote] thanks for the insider gossip. I've wondered about Meryl's girls. Any more insider casting goss? [quote]
r66 here, I can add a few thoughts.
First of all, I am always surprised when I talk to people outside the industry about casting.
Many people seem to think that any actor can simply audition for anything and the "best" actor gets the job.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
In order for actors to be seen for a project, to even be considered by the creative and producing team they have get invited by the casting directors.
Every speaking role in a film, television or play is a highly coveted prize that many people want.
Agents represent actors and pitch their clients to us for the specific project we are working on.
Getting seen, getting an appointment for a project can be [and often is] very, very difficult for an actor to do.
Young actors who have no credits and no experience and no immediately marketable look or characteristic have an almost impossible task securing an agent and an even bigger hurdle when that agent has to pitch their client to me to get them in the door.
This means unfortunately some talented people fall through the cracks. If I see someone I think is special I try to find ways to bring them in if I think there is a chance the decision could go their way OR if I think the producing/creative team will be glad they saw them for future projects.
Bottom line for casting: YOU MUST BE ABLE TO DEFEND EVERY DECISION, THAT IS, YOU MUST HAVE A GOOD REASON FOR BRINGING IN EVERYONE YOU PUT BEFORE THE TEAM.
Some of this is CYOA. If the team doesn't like someone you brought in you can say "well she just did an arc on Grey's" or "we brought him in for Ang Lee and Ang said he was the best actor he had seen in a long time"
OR we might have to say "she is so and so's daughter, wife, etc" Everyone understands this. Let me put it this way: NOBODY would ever for a second question your decision to bring one of Meryl's kids in the room even though they don't deserve the chance and someone much better is not getting that chance.
The reason for this is that the industry is run on favors and ego as much as it is on talent and business acumen. Favors and ego, those are two hot pieces of currency.
The thinking varies but to make the point, in the case of Meryl's kids. Producers and creatives are interested in them for one of two reasons: The first and foremost is Meryl is one of the few actors that gives a production the prestige factor that many ego driven producer crave. They think if they hire her kid, they are currying favor with the big girl herself and thus they have a chance of working with her. Or so the thinking goes.
The other line of thinking goes: Whoever can get a good performance out of one of them, will have Meryl's undying gratitude and will be more likely to feel indebted to that producer/director and work with them.
Let me be clear: Meryl's daughters are nice, intelligent well behaved girls but they are not, by any definition at the level where they should be booking ANY job or having ANY agent let along getting prime jobs and being represented by CAA. It is just ludicrous.
Jane Fonda once said to me that she used to tell people somewhat defensively that her famous lineage "got her in the door" but "the rest was up to her" With a laugh she told met that years later when she finally realized GETTING IN THE DOOR IS 99% of the battle, she understood why people rolled their eyes when she made that remark.
Nepotism works when it benefits talented people. It hurts the industry when it benefits those who should be in another business because it takes the slot away from someone genuinely deserving.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||08/28/2014|
Ronan Farrow - a broadcasting bore with no personality
|by Anonymous||reply 166||08/28/2014|
Ronan Farrow is indeed probably the worstcase today.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||08/28/2014|
[R165] And Ms Fonda wonders why people hate her. It's not just her politics. She is just clueless.
Thanks for the insights.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||08/28/2014|
If you "hate" Jane Fonda, it is likely you're a tea-bagger; otherwise she's just another dippy actress. Why do you always try to hide it?
|by Anonymous||reply 169||08/28/2014|
Meryl's daughters are nice, intelligent well behaved girls
haha best line all day
And I am sure they are. They just seem to be in the wrong line of business. They'll figure it out.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||08/28/2014|
Is Kate Hudson really so bad? I enjoyed her performances in 200 Cigarettes and Almost Famous.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||08/28/2014|
I want to hear more insights from our casting director at r165. The behind the scenes stuff is very interesting to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||08/28/2014|
Yes, we want more stories from R165. Or just a general look at the working of things.
These are also useful in other lines of business.
Thanks so much!
|by Anonymous||reply 173||08/28/2014|
A bad trickle down of multiculturalism is nepotism.
Seen now everywhere.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||08/28/2014|
R165 = David E.
Always recycling the same story
|by Anonymous||reply 175||08/28/2014|
Yep, the freeper has arrived, seeing the same boogeyman everywhere. He'll be ranting about Jews and Ferguson any minute now, because they're all "connected" to Hollywood, nepotism, and everything he doesn't have and won't ever have in his pea brain. Hate and envy dressed up as a political point of view.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||08/28/2014|
Paris Hilton, Nicole Richie, etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 177||08/28/2014|
Tori and Randy Spelling own this thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||08/28/2014|
Lon Chaney, Jr. His "career", no doubt helped along by him being a legacy, went practically nowhere.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||08/28/2014|
[[quote] And Ms Fonda wonders why people hate her. It's not just her politics. She is just clueless.Thanks for the insights. [quote]
Just want to clarify r168, the anecdote about Jane is actually favorable, not an example of her being "clueless"
Fonda is a genuinely talented intelligent woman who did benefit from nepotism and she knows it.
She realized after a few years in the business how much of an advantage she actually had. It was a "wow was I ever naive and stupid" type of comment she made, not clueless.
Also, Jane in her youth was one of the most stunning women you could imagine. My old boss said she was breathtakingly beautiful in person and perfect for the 60s / 70's look.
If people have specific questions about casting I will try to answer, but I need to remain anonymous.
Oh and LOL I am NOT David E
|by Anonymous||reply 180||08/28/2014|
yes R165/180 Jane Fonda was stunning beautiful in the 1960s /1970s. Her father had gorgeous eyes but she was jaw-droppingly beautiful.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||08/28/2014|
How about The Kardashians, one rather boring fuck tape begat that talentless dynasty.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||08/28/2014|
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|by Anonymous||reply 183||08/28/2014|
Jane Fonda is STILL pretty damn good-looking. She's aged incredibly well (or has has very good work done) and is always styled (hair, makeup, clothing) beautifully.
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|by Anonymous||reply 186||08/28/2014|
Re: rich people's children
Isn't Stark Sands the offspring of bazillionaires?
Talented guy, apparently hard-working and amiable, and not entirely difficult on the eyes
|by Anonymous||reply 187||08/28/2014|
Agreed. Just realizing now she makes me think of Léa Seydoux a little.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||08/28/2014|
|by Anonymous||reply 189||08/28/2014|
Probably already said, but my take:
Jaden Smith is Numero Uno
Nancy & Tina Sinatra, Frank Sinatra Jr
Lorna & Joey Luft
Paris Hilton & Nicole Ritchie
Sophia Coppola (as an actress), Nic Cage (although his early work was good, he's out to lunch now)
Undefined gender Bono
|by Anonymous||reply 190||08/28/2014|
|by Anonymous||reply 191||08/28/2014|
Jaden Smith is VERY attractive. As soon as he's legal I will openly lust after him and choke DL with Jaden threads. Just wait.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||08/28/2014|
|by Anonymous||reply 193||08/28/2014|
Not Hollywood, and not nepotism -- family business stuff, which is different:
Philippine de Rothschild dies at 80; grande dame of Bordeaux wine
Philippine de Rothschild, an energetic and self-certain grande dame of Bordeaux wine who halted an acting career to run vineyards owned by the family dynasty, has died, her company said. She was 80.
(That lot seems to be okay -- no crazies or druggies...)
|by Anonymous||reply 194||08/28/2014|
Stuffing children in roles/positions seems to have started relly taking off in the 80s.
|by Anonymous||reply 195||08/28/2014|
I don't think I've seen Rumer Willis come up yet. I can't imagine her getting work without connections. She isn't just not classically beautiful, her face is distractingly odd.
I was listening to a WTF podcast and a writer talked about getting fired so Regis Philbins daughter could have his assistant job at SNL. She went daddy's show and said she wanted to work on SNL, so they fired the unconnected guy to make room for princess. That seems pretty egregious to me.
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|by Anonymous||reply 197||08/28/2014|
R90, I think the studio wanted the guaranteed $$ that would come with a GF sequel so badly that they were willing to let Coppola cast his daughter. FF Coppola resisted making a third film for years.
Also, Ryder bowed out within days of production starting. You can't just stop a production that size from filming at that stage, the costs would be astronomical. The scheduling headaches would be a nightmare. Why they didn't just fly over Julia Roberts or someone else on the short list is a mystery, but still.
At least Sofia had the sense not to continue trying to act.
|by Anonymous||reply 198||08/28/2014|
Cooper Endicott, son of Melissa Rivers.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||08/28/2014|
I think most nepotism cases eventually find their own level. The ones with talent, like Liza, Jane Fonda, and yes, GOOP, will be able to thrive. But, I doubt we'll hear much from the studio head's daughter who was in Magic Mike again because she was so awful. Rumer Willis hasn't really become successful, either, she's just known for being a famous daughter.
|by Anonymous||reply 200||08/28/2014|
R102, she looks like she could be the daughter of non-Italian Kay (Diane Keaton) and Italian Michael (Al Pacino). The character would not have been fully Sicilian, so Ryder's softer features and dark coloring would have been perfect. Supposedly more of the story of GF3 revolved around her character, but once Sofia was cast the part was cut way down.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||08/28/2014|
Fuck you, R159, Anjelica Huston is a GODDESS.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||08/28/2014|
Jaden Smirh is a hideous actor.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||08/28/2014|
Angelina Jolie. She can't act worth shit. Don't get me started on her fucked up blackula accents either.
|by Anonymous||reply 204||08/28/2014|
Jaden is legal in most of Africa, the Arab world and Planet $cio.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||08/28/2014|
Sean Penn's son and daughter. Both are trying to make it as actors/models.
|by Anonymous||reply 206||08/28/2014|
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|by Anonymous||reply 207||08/28/2014|
Since this is a Hollywood thread, I need some help --
How much can we get to let them use the outside of my Mom's house for an amazon show webisode?
|by Anonymous||reply 208||08/28/2014|
R158, JLD is not especially talented, she is playing Elane in Seinfeld, Old Christine, Veep, and the short lived NBC show with the clock or timer in it's title. This is not deep breathtaking knock your socks off acting; it's just tv sitcom stuff, very vanilla. I also find her odd looking, kind of like a witch.
I am sure she is nice...why wouldn't she be? No problems or worries when you are a mega zillionaire.
Seinfeld was a one note show, annoying and does not hold up, seems very dated now. It was okay but not the end all and be all it was made out to be.
Let the queens come ahead with their bitching.
and I will add that Jane Fonda is TIRESOME.
|by Anonymous||reply 209||08/28/2014|
R209, I think you're way off about Julia Louis-Dreyfus. She is very, very funny--that's why she's won five Emmys. I think even the bits she does at awards shows (such as with Bryan Cranston the other night) are funny.
|by Anonymous||reply 210||08/28/2014|
R210 I found this Emmy show the worst of any I ever saw. Nothing was funny, it all seemed written by drunken teens who think they are just too funny. The host was the worst since Ellen, who has that dull dumb smirky aren't I funny sense of humor.
Guess I am allergic to the mainstream.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||08/28/2014|
Julia Louis-Dreyfus is a once in a generation comedic actress talent. She was extraordinary on Seinfeld, incredibly inventive and plain funny. Look how she played being stuck on the subway or hating The English Patient or getting rabies or getting revenge on the Soup Nazi. She was the MVP of that show, and it's clear now that she has continued to great acclaim while the other's careers have fizzled. On Veep, you would think that it would be same old same old with her, but it really isn't. She bounces off her cast wonderfully and leads a fantastic ensemble. That woman knows comedy.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||08/28/2014|
[quote]Lon Chaney, Jr. His "career", no doubt helped along by him being a legacy, went practically nowhere.
I thought marrying Liza would be my ticket to stardom. I thought, "why not? It worked for Peter Allen!"
|by Anonymous||reply 213||08/28/2014|
Desi Arnez Jr. and Lucy Arnez
|by Anonymous||reply 214||08/28/2014|
Linda Kaye Henning, is an example of nepotism in the classic TV era. Her father Paul Henning was a producer who created The Beverly Hillbillies and Petticoat Junction, which Linda was cast in. Gossip back then was that her Petticoat Junction co-stars hated her because she got some storylines changed to suit her character.
|by Anonymous||reply 215||08/28/2014|
She was also the only "daughter" who kept her part throughout the run of the series. Several actresses played each of the other two daughters.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||08/28/2014|
I imagine a lot of the Rin-Tin-Tins and Lassies were related to one another in some way.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||08/28/2014|
A tad of topic, but Luke Russets just blows. Outrageous that this 22 year old out of BU got a DC network correspondent job. The political press corps basically admits they do nothing of substance and do not matter by hiring this kid.
|by Anonymous||reply 218||08/28/2014|
R180 Slightly off topic (maybe someone could start a new thread?) how do Scientologists get so much work?
|by Anonymous||reply 219||08/28/2014|
They usually join quietly after they have a big hit that puts them on the map. They become the cash cow for the Scientology.
I dont think there are many new ones signing up these days. But when I lived in Hollywood, they were buying up property everywhere.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||08/28/2014|
Dear R209, I am guessing you have never acted professionally nor been on any production in your life. JLD is an excellent comedic actress, her timing and her instincts are impeccable. From having seen her in the romantic film Enough Said with the late James Gandolfini (also an exceptional actor), I can also guess she would be a very good dramatic actress. My guess is comedy has been more her interest so far.
I can only imagine you are trolling.
Veep is hilarious. She was the best (the only good thing?) about Seinfeld, which, granted, was itself unwatchable, at least here (Europe).
To anyone who has yet to know the brilliance of Julia Louis-Dreyfus, see collection of clips below.
|by Anonymous||reply 221||08/28/2014|
What R212 said.
And now I have to track down that English Patient bit.
|by Anonymous||reply 222||08/28/2014|
Out of all the actors who've made it (become a recognisable name) what percentage do you think are related to someone else in the business?
|by Anonymous||reply 223||08/30/2014|
Interesting how Sean Penn, Bruce Willis, Michael Douglas, Belinda Carlisle, and their somewhat equally famous spouses made a pointed publicized move to raise their kids outside of Hollywood, only to have their spawn skip higher education and try to make it as actor/model/DJ/whatever.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||08/30/2014|
R223, we've been over this subject before, and the vast majority of modern celebrities have family members in the entertainment business. Even B-listers like the Gylenhalls and Kristen Stewart are the children of people who work behind the scenes.
|by Anonymous||reply 225||08/30/2014|
I think Maggie Gyllenhaal is a decent actress and Jake has been ok in a few things. There are some good actors who mostly work in TV who are children of people who worked behind the scenes. Katey Sagal's father was a director and he was close friends with Norman Lear. While Katey didn't become well known until Married With Children, she probably had an easier time in Hollywood than other people because of connections and she probably understood the business better.
Troian Bellisario from Pretty Little Liars is the daughter of writer and producer Donald Bellisario, who created several TV shows. She guest starred on some of his shows before landing on ABC Family. Her last name probably helped her. She is a decent actress and she usually gets more praises than her co-stars.
Emily and Zooey Deschanel are ok actresses in my opinion. Their father was a director and their mother was an actress who did mostly TV work here and there. The mom's most well known was playing Lara Flynn Boyle's mother on Twin Peaks.
|by Anonymous||reply 226||08/30/2014|
I'm not first to say this, but one more time: its a crime that Luke Russert is employed in the job he has. Its the perfect example of the emptiness of Washington "journalism" - he's perfect for reporting on who's up and who's down in the cool kids game, though.
|by Anonymous||reply 227||08/30/2014|
The worst case is actually Nick Kroll. He not only used his fathers connections but he's intent on being a businessman and has propped up the careers of some of today's least talented comics.
|by Anonymous||reply 228||09/06/2014|
I DON'T REALLY KNOW
That's the most sincere answer one could give, don't you think?
|by Anonymous||reply 229||09/06/2014|
Frankie J. Grande!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 230||09/06/2014|
[quote]I see nepotism everywhere, except in STEM-professions/hard-science, where actual skill/talent is crucial in order to do the job.
Not since pre-packaged computer programs were released to do all the work.
Nothing worked better to make engineering a haven for nepotism and identity like NASTRAN and other such computer software.
|by Anonymous||reply 231||09/06/2014|
Betty and Slappy White
|by Anonymous||reply 232||09/06/2014|
Matt Bomer. Not the worst case but the best case.
|by Anonymous||reply 233||09/06/2014|
Butterfly and Steve McQueen.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||09/06/2014|
someone just posted her name here. Kelly Osbourne. People with 100 times the talent struggle to make ends meet.
|by Anonymous||reply 235||09/06/2014|
ARG! Julia L Dreyfuss trolls or her agents are posting on here!
She is okay, nothing more, no comic genius, no great beauty, no wonderful timing etc. Better than the current gen of SNLers who truly have no talent and yes that's Amy and Tina and Kristin (ho hum.)
and that is true about nepotism except in the hard sciences--those careers take some actual brains.
|by Anonymous||reply 236||09/06/2014|
R236, do enlighten us about who the comic geniuses are.
|by Anonymous||reply 237||09/07/2014|
|by Anonymous||reply 238||09/07/2014|
Vadge has been posting lots of kiddie pics lately, I am waiting for Rocco & co to be foisted upon the public.
|by Anonymous||reply 239||09/07/2014|
r236 I like tha Christine show , and she is far from a bad actress. As for beauty I think shes hot as hell especially I hr 50s. gets my dick hard
|by Anonymous||reply 240||09/07/2014|
Thank you for that, R236, I thought I was the only one who thought that way.....I just done get JLD, either!
|by Anonymous||reply 241||09/07/2014|
George Clooney wins this thread, not Jaden Smith.
|by Anonymous||reply 242||09/07/2014|
Yes, R242, Rosemary Clooney was huge in the 1990s.
|by Anonymous||reply 243||09/07/2014|
Nepotism doesn't bother me, because it exists in every field. How the hell do you think Rand Paul got into medical school? And the Kennedys into Harvard?
|by Anonymous||reply 244||09/07/2014|
worst case by far is Nick Kroll from the League.
|by Anonymous||reply 245||10/11/2014|
Hollywood accounting is a Byzantine morass of kickbacks and fraud
Insiders know this and school their kids on how the game is played
Studios can take the children of stars and make them into new stars knowing they won't rock the boat
|by Anonymous||reply 246||10/11/2014|
[quote]Luke Russert just blows. Outrageous that this 22 year old out of BU got a DC network correspondent job.
Luke Russert's (not particularly attractive) face is the very emblem of nepotism, R218. There's something very wrong in the world now, and he proves it with every syllable he issues forth.
|by Anonymous||reply 247||10/11/2014|
Nepotism? What would my kids do without it
|by Anonymous||reply 248||10/11/2014|
Not to mention your husband
|by Anonymous||reply 249||10/11/2014|
|by Anonymous||reply 250||10/11/2014|
My kids look like potatoes, what would you do?
|by Anonymous||reply 251||10/11/2014|
Chloe Lattanzi is the prime example that two attractive people will not have beautiful offspring. That unfortunate girl, who wasn't ugly, turned herself into a plastic surgery nightmare. She didn't get any of her mother's singing talent or charming personality, either.
She can't top the Smith offspring or the Willis spuds or the Kartrashians.
|by Anonymous||reply 252||10/11/2014|
Angelica Huston. Where's the poster who claimed she was head of some coven and wielded power over all of hollywood?
|by Anonymous||reply 253||10/11/2014|
Matt Lattanzi was so hot, R252, I could almost forget he was married to the world's worst singer.
|by Anonymous||reply 254||10/11/2014|
Angelica Houston is a very good actress, R253.
That's the thing about Hollywood - it's so insanely competitive that even if you have great family connections and real talent and fuck the A-list... you can STILL spend most of your career on the B-list!
|by Anonymous||reply 255||10/11/2014|
He was never married to me, R254.
|by Anonymous||reply 256||10/11/2014|
Nepotism is alive and well throughout all professions. Frankly, it seems that one is far less likely to find an undeserving family-connected movie industry professional than an undeserving family-connected plumber, cop, doctor or lawyer.
|by Anonymous||reply 257||10/11/2014|
[quote]Frankly, it seems that one is far less likely to find an undeserving family-connected movie industry professional than an undeserving family-connected plumber, cop, doctor or lawyer.
Yeah, it just seems that way.
|by Anonymous||reply 258||10/11/2014|
The Noll brothers.
|by Anonymous||reply 259||10/11/2014|
That hack m night shymalamadingdong
|by Anonymous||reply 260||10/15/2014|
[quote]Nepotism doesn't bother me, because it exists in every field. How the hell do you think Rand Paul got into medical school? And the Kennedys into Harvard?
George W. Bush is an even better example.
Rand Paul's politics suck, but he's fairly intelligent. The Kennedys were all bright.
|by Anonymous||reply 261||10/15/2014|
R198 Rebecca Schaeffer had an audition for the 'Mary Corleone' part in TGIII the day she was killed by her crazed fan. Do you think she would've been good?
|by Anonymous||reply 262||06/27/2017|
R182 isn't Ryan Seacrest responsible for their rise? They wouldn't have gotten a show on E! without him. Asshole.
|by Anonymous||reply 263||06/27/2017|
|by Anonymous||reply 264||06/27/2017|
[quote]I knew him because he refused to guarantee an end date for Meg Ryan on "Harry and Sally" so she could do Shelby in "Steel Magnolias". So Julia Roberts was "born".
R152 Roberts would still have been a star without SM. Granted, it got her her first Oscar nod and Golden Globe win (for Supporting Actress), but she had PRETTY WOMAN immediately after, so her success with SM had nothing to do with her getting PW. SM was released in November 1989; PW was released in March 1990. The latter was a huge hit (#3 of the year) and garnered Roberts her second GG win and first Oscar nod for Best Actress.
|by Anonymous||reply 265||06/27/2017|
Agree with R53.
Gwyneth Paltrow, who has some talent, and yet is a weird mixture of completely annoying with flashes of self-deprecation.
Kate Hudson - who has flown under my radar for her entire career, which seems dedicated to movies I would never see or have seen and forgotten instantly.
|by Anonymous||reply 266||06/27/2017|
R74 That role in Godfather 3 should have gone to Rebecca Schaeffer. She was going to meet with Francis Ford Coppola on the morning she was murdered. She was waiting for the script, heard the buzzer, went downstairs to open the door and was met by Robert Bardo who shot her dead. She would have had to do a better job than Sofia.
|by Anonymous||reply 267||06/27/2017|
R262 Didn't see your post, sorry.
|by Anonymous||reply 268||06/27/2017|
Well thank heavens Sofia is a successful and talented director. She lived to see down her young failure.
|by Anonymous||reply 269||06/27/2017|
Carrie Fisher, never would have gotten the Star Wars role without her mom's help.
|by Anonymous||reply 270||06/27/2017|
Agreed R264 she is fucking annoying and has no discernible talent. She also looks quite manly. We may have found her real father....
|by Anonymous||reply 271||06/27/2017|
Carrie Fisher gets the same pass as Sophia. Turned out Carrie had lots of talent. Debbie was never a compelling actress herself.
|by Anonymous||reply 272||06/27/2017|
You never saw Charlotte's Web? Debbie was very compelling as the spider. And did a great job as Liberace's mom.
|by Anonymous||reply 273||06/27/2017|
Ok I should have said "only seldomly"
|by Anonymous||reply 274||06/27/2017|
"Thank you, Papa!"
|by Anonymous||reply 275||06/27/2017|
"Carrie Fisher her gets the same pass as Sophia. Turned out Carrie had lots of talent."
Not really. She was quite terrible in "Star Wars", for some reason delivering her lines in a faux British accent. She was never really much talented. She was always more of a personality than an accomplished performer.
Sophia Coppola owns this thread. Unprepossessing and having no experience whatsoever as an actress she was given the plum role of Mary Corleone in Godfather III by her doting Daddy. Her performance was legendarily bad. Later she reinvented herself as a director and won an undeserved Oscar, no doubt because her last name is Coppola. She makes movies that aren't that great but get a lot of publicity and still wins awards in no small part due to her pedigree. Her career is nepotism at its worst.
|by Anonymous||reply 276||06/27/2017|
Jane Fonda was mentioned earlier in this old thread, but I always thought her brother Peter Fonda was a far more egregious example of nepotism. Peter was an attractive guy but certainly not much of an actor.
The Carradines were rather obvous recipients of nepotism, although they tended to be talented enough to make it work for them after they were given a start.
I haven't seen Lloyd Bridges' sons mentioned here -- Beau and Jeff.
|by Anonymous||reply 277||06/27/2017|
R276 Sophia just one BEST DIRECTOR (2nd woman ever) at Cannes. You know that silly unknown film festival somewhere in Africa. Doesn't count, not a sign of talent....
Carrie Fisher has A LOT of talent, and Hollywood valuable talent, but it wasn't in acting. She was a comic gadfly about town, and writer and script doctor.
I gave them a pass for nepotism because they proved their worth in show biz, just not as actors.
|by Anonymous||reply 278||06/27/2017|
Dakota Johnson. Her acting is as bad as her mother's and father's COMBINED. Terrible.
|by Anonymous||reply 279||06/27/2017|
Kate Hudson owns this thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 280||06/27/2017|
Dakota was SMART to make that shit stain trilogy. That shit is doing well all over the world and she will be hired for a good 5-10 years.
|by Anonymous||reply 281||06/27/2017|
"Sophia just one BEST DIRECTOR (2nd woman ever) at Cannes. You know that silly unknown film festival somewhere in Africa. Doesn't count, not a sign of talent...."
She's won awards and shit because of her last name, not because of any outstanding talent. Her remake of "The Beguiled" looks like a piece of shit, as remakes usually are, and she's been getting backlash from eliminating the slave character that was in the original movie. I guess having a black person in the movie (it's set in the South during the Civil War) didn't sit well with her "vision."
|by Anonymous||reply 282||06/27/2017|
Sofia Coppola. She almost destroyed Godfather 3 with her lousy acting. Maybe she's better behind the camera.
|by Anonymous||reply 283||06/27/2017|
Marisa Hargiaty. She's a terrible actress but has a long running television show. She'd be a washed up beauty queen if her parents weren't famous.
|by Anonymous||reply 284||06/27/2017|
Sofia Coppola won TWO Razzies for "The Godfather: Part III" -- Worst New Star (beating out Donald Trump, of all people, in "Ghosts Can't Do It") and Worst Supporting Actress .
In fact, her role as Saché in "The Phantom Menace" earned her another Worst Supporting Actress nod, and her combined performances in both films got her nominated for Worst New Star of the Decade.
|by Anonymous||reply 285||06/27/2017|
R179, Chaney, Jr. wasn't the greatest actor, but he was heartbreaking in Of Mice and Men. He created an unforgettable icon with his portrayal of The Wolf Man, and he gave one of the best performances in High Noon. His career was ruined by alcoholism of the worst kind, and to a certain extent typecasting. When the old monster movies gained new found popularity in the late fifties, casting directors wanted him to plot horror parts, and he was way past his prime for that kind of role. He was more suitable for playing old everyman type character parts, but instead they put him in crap like Face of the Screaming Werewolf and Dr. Terror's Gallery of Horrors.
|by Anonymous||reply 286||06/27/2017|
Beau and Jeff Bridges may have gotten some initial breaks due to nepotism but any subsequent success and acclaim they've achieved has been well earned.
I KNEW that when Jeff Bridges won his Oscar that his parents would feature prominently in his acceptance speech and sure enough, there they were right in the first sentence. One of many things I like about Jeff.
I can think of only two current male stars who are as well liked as older stars like James Stewart, John Wayne and Gary Cooper were-Tom Hanks and Jeff Bridges.
|by Anonymous||reply 287||06/27/2017|
Sofia Coppola is terrible in Godfather 3, but it's not like her father really wanted her in the movie. It was a last minute thing.
[quote]Julia Roberts was originally cast as Mary but dropped out due to scheduling conflicts. Madonna wanted to play the role, but Coppola felt she was too old for the part. Rebecca Schaeffer was set to audition but was murdered. Winona Ryder dropped out of the film at the last minute. Ultimately Sofia Coppola, the director's daughter, was given the role of Michael Corleone's daughter.
He had people dropping out, getting murdered, and then Madonna. No wonder he cast his own daughter.
|by Anonymous||reply 288||06/27/2017|
Lily Collins is a bright new Hollywood actress, daughter of Phil Collins. She talks about growing up in the business with famous people always stopping by the house. Children of famous people tend to know a lot of important people and feel comfortable with them.
|by Anonymous||reply 289||06/27/2017|
I had heard that Laura San Giacomo (briefly hot off of "Sex, Lies and Videotape") was ready reading to fly in and take over the role of Mary Corleone on a moment's notice after Winona Ryder dropped out. They should have used her instead of Sofia.
I caught "Picture Mommy Dead" on TCM a while back - the leading role of the troubled daughter was played by Susan Gordon who was the daughter of producer Bert I. Gordon. Susan Gordon got her start as a child actress in all her father's pictures - she was not that talented and quite awkward onscreen.
There were more show business children in "Petticoat Junction" - Meredith MacRae, the daughter of Gordon MacRae and DL fave Sheila MacRae (sister of Heather MacRae). I always liked her and she could sing too.
Tori Spelling is a mess nowadays but she has been funny in comic supporting roles in independent movies - so not really a no talent actually.
|by Anonymous||reply 290||06/27/2017|
|by Anonymous||reply 291||06/27/2017|
The egregious Dakota Johnson. But nepotism is so rampant it would be easier to list the worst who aren't related to anyone in the business.
|by Anonymous||reply 292||06/27/2017|
Peter Fonda was awful.
|by Anonymous||reply 293||06/27/2017|
Henry Jaglom making whichever z-list starlet he's married to/fucking the lead in his pretentious "art films", as if they weren't boring enough.
|by Anonymous||reply 294||06/28/2017|
Sofia Coppola. She's a self important, untalented, dull director, an amateur, and a rich, well connected dilettante. I've seen more inspired work from an infomercial. I'm sure she ruined "The Beguiled". I
|by Anonymous||reply 295||06/28/2017|
A lot of these people can actually act. I find Drew Barrymore charming on screen, and she was terrific as Little Edie. The Fonda clan all can act (although Bridget--the most beautiful--has very little charisma). Kate Hudson is beautiful and charming, even though she has very little range; her brother Oliver is quite good and deserves a better career than he's had.
Jaden Smith was a decent child actor, but he was asked to carry too much in "After Earth," and the part was his father's huge ego trip for himself (projected onto his son).
Jason Gould was quite good looking as a kid, although he wasn't very believable as a football player in "The Prince of Tides."
The worst profiteers of neptoism are usually wives rather than children, because husbands/lovers are very blind to where their wives/mistresses excel and what their talents are. Julie Chen, for example, is not untalented as a presenter, but she comes across as so artificial and fake, and "The Talk" would benefit from someone who is more human and relatable. Marion Davies was famously a gifted comedienne but Hearst only wanted to see her in romantic dramatic roles, where she wasn't suited.
The worst of all I think was the wildly uncharismatic and unlikable Barbara Bosson, whose husband Steve Bochco gave good parts to in all his TV projects.
|by Anonymous||reply 296||06/28/2017|
|by Anonymous||reply 297||06/28/2017|
Zosia Mamet is awful, but part of the problem is she's so spectacularly homely. She can't do anything about it, but she has no business being an actress.
|by Anonymous||reply 298||06/28/2017|
Zoe Kazan is the granddaughter of famed director (and McCarthy era HUAC informant who testified against colleagues) Elia Kazan. Zoe is homely, not terribly charismatic and was terrible the two times I saw her onstage. Yet she keeps getting hired for very good roles onstage and now in Hollywood. Her parents were screenwriters and she has written plays that get mixed reviews with critics pointing out rookie mistakes. But they get produced at Manhattan Theater Club and now she is writing for films and television. I don't think she is more talented a writer than lots of people who can't get anyone to read their drafts. I don't think she would have gotten roles like Nina in "The Seagull" or Harper Pitt in "Angels in America" if she didn't come from the Kazan family.
|by Anonymous||reply 299||06/29/2017|
Zosia looks like 33% of the jewish girls of my youth and I wouldn't say she is spectacularly homely at all. I'd rather her than that awful and anorexic Williams girl.
|by Anonymous||reply 300||06/29/2017|
[quote]Jason Gould was quite good looking as a kid, although he wasn't very believable as a football player in "The Prince of Tides."
His character wasn't a jock, but he desperately wanted to be. His specialty was the violin, which he eventually returned to.
|by Anonymous||reply 301||06/29/2017|
R179 OMG yes! Lon Jr, had none of his father's charisma or talent. It's nice to know I'm not the only one who was wondering about his "career".
|by Anonymous||reply 302||06/29/2017|
R211 you sound like a pretentious, douche bag, hipster, turd troll. I don't care about the difference of opinions...its the "Guess I am allergic to the mainstream." that makes you INSUFFERABLE.
|by Anonymous||reply 303||06/29/2017|
As others have noted noted, Jaden Smith owns this thread, though I'd also throw in their Carrie Fisher's daughter. Now there is definitely someone who would not be cast without their family connections.
I never understood the hate for Sofia Coppola; granted, she wouldn't be that big of deal without her family connections, but I thought the Virgin Suicides was beautifully done.
|by Anonymous||reply 304||06/29/2017|
R165 Thank you so much for your insight. I'm not going to ask you anything personal (it's just rude imo) and I respect your anonymity, however why is it some casting directors have a sort of "magic" at casting the right people? I would say it's like a 6th sense or something. Also, (forgive my ignorance) but I'm guessing in order to become a casting director College is involved...what would one study in order to go into that field? -Thank you for your time and patience.
|by Anonymous||reply 305||06/29/2017|
R275 - Yes! I absolutely loved Mira in Mighty Aphrodite and a few other things at the time like Beautiful Girls but whenever I've seen her in anything recently, it's as if she somehow forgot how to act since those early days. She's just horrible now. WTF?
I see Rob Lowe is hard at work pushing his sons into having a career in front of the cameras. Ugh.
|by Anonymous||reply 306||06/29/2017|
R278 Just because she was at/won awards at CANNES...doesn't mean shit. You live your life by awards and yet you keep your eyes closed to the system of control? Yes she is the 2nd woman to win it....but HOW MANY FEMALE DIRECTORS get a shot and being able to make a movie in the system of Hollywood. Oscars aren't given just for talent you know. She got a shot at making movieS....a female director in Hollywood gets A shot and if it isn't successful....BUH-BYE. Yes men can make bomb after bomb (M. Knight Shamlayan...you know who I mean) gets MANY. Many male directors get second and third chances.
|by Anonymous||reply 307||06/29/2017|
[quote]Peter Fonda was awful.
People complained about the budgets of musicals and costume dramas, but in terms of real-world negative social impact, [italic]Easy Rider[/italic] was probably more costly.
|by Anonymous||reply 308||06/29/2017|
[quote] I never understood the hate for Sofia Coppola; granted, she wouldn't be that big of deal without her family connections, but I thought the Virgin Suicides was beautifully done.
It's because she was so lousy in [italic]The Godfather Part III[/italic] in a role that should have gone to Winona Ryder and would have had it not been for Johnny Depp.
|by Anonymous||reply 309||06/29/2017|
Sofia Coppola has genuine talent, "The Virgin Suicides" and "Lost In Translation" alone being a proof of that.
|by Anonymous||reply 310||06/29/2017|
R309 what's Johnny Depp got to do with it?
|by Anonymous||reply 311||06/29/2017|
Sofia Coppola would be nowhere without her father. She has money, the Coppola name through her father and she has access to all his colleagues and friends in the business. Nobody would have given that spoiled, entitled rich princess a dime to make any of her dull, pretentious movies if it weren't for Francis Ford Coppola. I have more respect for a truly talented director, male or female, who makes it on their own. When Sofia fails, Daddy just picks up the pieces and she moves on to the next project. Of course, the money is there, everything is available for the next movie she ruins. She couldn't direct traffic, let alone a movie. I'd say she could have a career as an infomercial director, but she'd fuck that up too.
|by Anonymous||reply 312||06/29/2017|
They were dating at the time, R311.
|by Anonymous||reply 313||06/29/2017|
R313 but what does that have to do with her getting the part ?
|by Anonymous||reply 314||06/29/2017|
Or rather, NOT getting the part?
|by Anonymous||reply 315||06/29/2017|
Sofia is pretty talented, in my opinion. There are far worse examples of nepotism. At least she realized she was no actor pretty quickly. I blame her father and Winona Ryder for the disaster of Godfather Part III.
|by Anonymous||reply 316||06/29/2017|
|by Anonymous||reply 317||06/29/2017|
I've never seen it -- actually, I've never watched any of the trilogy -- but if GODFATHER III is so awfully bad, how did it get a Best Picture nod (among 7)? I realize that the Academy has nominated crap before, especially recently, but this was still the era when there were only 5 slots.
|by Anonymous||reply 318||06/29/2017|
The cast of Girls,,and of course Kate Hudson,, they should have drowned her at birth,
|by Anonymous||reply 319||06/29/2017|
I think Zosia Mamet will disappear now that Girls is finished. She's not attractive and even some indie type directors want actresses that are little prettier for their movies.
|by Anonymous||reply 320||07/01/2017|
Another for Kate Hudson. She's an average looking white trash bastard factory who'd be working at Wendy's. And she's not a good actress.
|by Anonymous||reply 321||07/01/2017|
What ever happened to Kate Hudson? Did she go "lifestyle route" like Paltrow?
|by Anonymous||reply 322||07/03/2017|