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Looking for a new love: the Jody Watley appreciation thread

By request from the Pebbles thread.

by Anonymousreply 9112/25/2014

I loved her. I wish she lasted a little longer, but she had a pretty good run anyway.

by Anonymousreply 110/27/2013

"Still A Thrill" - that's the slinky jam

by Anonymousreply 210/27/2013

Jody had Voguing in her video's way before Madonna stoled the idea.

by Anonymousreply 310/27/2013

"Everything" was the fucking JAM.

Sing out gurl!

by Anonymousreply 410/27/2013

"Friends"!!

by Anonymousreply 510/27/2013

I love her single of "When man loves a woman" with those mixes "when a man loves a man" and "when a woman loves a woman" - funky grooves and maybe quite brave to put out back then. Her track "Ecstasy" also on that cd single is ace too.

by Anonymousreply 610/27/2013

I loves me some Jody! All of her late 80's/90's albums are so underrated. I listen to all of them from start to finish and its still a thrill"! And no on gives Jody credit for that "hasta la vista,baby" line that Arnold totally stole from her song,complete with the same inflection!

by Anonymousreply 710/27/2013

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by Anonymousreply 810/27/2013

"Some Kind Of Lover" is really innovative.

by Anonymousreply 910/27/2013

Jody with her kids. I think her son is by Andre Cymone. I believe she had her daughter before they met.

by Anonymousreply 1010/27/2013

Listening to Jody makes one realise what crap today's lot like Rihanna are putting out.

by Anonymousreply 1110/27/2013

Ive always wondered about that Howard Hewitt guy from Shalamar... anyone got stories to tell?

by Anonymousreply 1210/27/2013

Wasn't Howard married to Nia Peeples for a hot minute?

by Anonymousreply 1310/27/2013

Does she still perform? Club PAs etc?

by Anonymousreply 1410/27/2013

Just say Jody Whatley earrings and everybody knows which kind.

by Anonymousreply 1510/27/2013

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by Anonymousreply 1610/27/2013

Watley

by Anonymousreply 1710/27/2013

How come she was in the "Do They Know It's Christmas" video? Was she doing promo in London at the time?

by Anonymousreply 1810/27/2013

Still a Thrill is great.

I'm leaving now. Where are my keys.

by Anonymousreply 1910/27/2013

Some of her songs sound good, but they are hurt by the cheesy 80s synthesizers and her very thin voice.

by Anonymousreply 2010/27/2013

[quote] How come she was in the "Do They Know It's Christmas" video? Was she doing promo in London at the time?

Shalamar were quite popular in the UK at the time.

by Anonymousreply 2110/27/2013

Where's the Dixie Whatley appreciation thread?

by Anonymousreply 2210/27/2013

R18--she lived in London at the time.

Jeffrey Daniel of "Shalamar" also moved there and performed in "Starlight Express" on the West End.

The video of "Dead Giveaway", the last hit with the original lineup intact, was filmed in London.

by Anonymousreply 2310/27/2013

Thank you OP! I can't believe DL is only now getting a Jody thread.

I loved her style and songs.

"Looking For A New Love"

"Don't You Want Me?"

"Still A Thrill"

"Some Kind of Lover"

"Real Love"

"Friends"

"Everything"

"Precious Love"

I love all these songs...she had 2 #2 singles on the hot 100-it's a shame she never got to #1.

I also love her songs when she was in Shalamar.

R12 Hewitt was hot and a great singer but also a jerk. Jody hates him.

by Anonymousreply 2410/27/2013

I want to be Jodybot!

by Anonymousreply 2510/27/2013

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by Anonymousreply 2610/27/2013

Her first two albums were great, then after that her music went to shit because she went down that "I want to be a deep artist" route a la Prince and steered away from what made her popular. She also seemed to become very stubborn and was more concerned with doing music she wanted to do rather than what her fans wanted.

My favorite was "Whatcha Gonna Do For Me?".

by Anonymousreply 2710/27/2013

Her Shalamar songs were better than her solo stuff. Jody has been approached numerous times to do a reunion with Shalamar but refuses to because she can't stand Howard Hewitt.

by Anonymousreply 2810/27/2013

[quote]Her Shalamar songs were better than her solo stuff.

Completely disagree.

by Anonymousreply 2910/27/2013

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by Anonymousreply 3010/27/2013

Was f-ing John Taylor of Duran Duran for a while in the 80s.

by Anonymousreply 3110/27/2013

What's the story with her and Howard? And wasn't Jeffrey Daniels married to Stephanie Mills for a second?

by Anonymousreply 3210/27/2013

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by Anonymousreply 3310/27/2013

Wasn't she a cokehead?

by Anonymousreply 3410/27/2013

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by Anonymousreply 3510/27/2013

"Don't you want me" is still my jam.

by Anonymousreply 3610/27/2013

I always preferred the remixed video version of "Don't You Want Me" over the album version.

by Anonymousreply 3710/27/2013

"Some Kind of Lover" was my jam in college, it was really well done. For a pop-dance song the lyrics are semi-intelligent and feeling.

"We'll light a candle, as a symbol of our love..."

by Anonymousreply 3810/27/2013

Didn't the Shalamar boyfriend beat her?

by Anonymousreply 3910/27/2013

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by Anonymousreply 4010/27/2013

[quote]"We'll light a candle, as a symbol of our love..."

That's your idea of a good lyric?

You must be Catholic.

by Anonymousreply 4110/27/2013

R39 the rumor is he wanted to get with Jody, she said no, so he tried to rape her but I guess she got out of that and he also allegedly attacked her.

Watch the Unsung episode on youtube AND Jody's 3 part reaction videos to it.

Hewitt screwed himself. He had the looks and talent but a horrible personality.

I'm glad Jody succeeded as a solo artist after leaving the group with all the hell she had to put up with.

by Anonymousreply 4210/27/2013

R37, I completely agree about the remix...that's the version I have on my phone. I love that song so much...it just reminds me of high school and one guy I was obsessed with at the time.

R38, Love that song!

I still can watch the "Real Love" video like it came out yesterday. I fucking loved her style...my high school girlfriends and I wanted to dress like Jody. She was too cool for school!!

One of my fav's is "Still a Thrill"... the deepness of her voice on the record is so sexy!

by Anonymousreply 4310/27/2013

Jody's best friend from the 80s, Jermaine Stewart's 'Word is out'. I love this song. My friend did costume design for this video.

by Anonymousreply 4410/27/2013

I agree,r43! Just watched 'Thril' and it looks like it was shot yesterday. Who was her competition for 'Best New Artist' Grammy?

by Anonymousreply 4510/27/2013

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by Anonymousreply 4610/27/2013

Jermaine also wrote and recorded the song "Jody" about Jody. It's FIERCE. I love the beat. Unfortunately the extended version isn't up on youtube but here's the video:

R44 was your friend a gay male? If so, did he ever hook up with Jermaine?

by Anonymousreply 4710/27/2013

What was the falling out that her and Jermaine had about?

by Anonymousreply 4810/27/2013

R47, Oh my goodness!! Jermaine's jacket is CRAZY!! Shoulder pads for DAYZ!!!

by Anonymousreply 4910/27/2013

I saw Jody Watley perform 2 or 3 years ago at BB Kings in NYC. It was a good show. She still has great presence. She did a mix of her current indie dance/trance material, her 80s hits (fun, but the sound is very dated) and a Shalamar medley in which she spoke at length about the TVOne Unsung Documentary about the group in which Jody appeared and talked about her dissatisfaction with the group, though admitting they did record a few good songs like For the Lover in You.

I agree her chart success decline in the early 90's due partly to wanting to become a more serious artist and due to sudden shift in the pop music scene, but there are some good songs to be found on her albums Affairs of the Heart and Intimacy.

by Anonymousreply 5010/27/2013

Why doesn't she record anymore? Her last album was 7 years ago, and that was just a covers/remake album.

by Anonymousreply 5110/27/2013

I remember watching a story in 1990 on"20/20" concerning the then pervasive influence of MTV. They featured the then thought to be future superstars Jane Child and Allanah Myles, and then talked to 80's stars who were suddenly having trouble getting their followup singles play on the channel. They focussed on Belinda Carlisle and Jody Watley. I think Jody expressed surprise that they refused to play the followup to "Everything" because the song did not "fit in to the playlist" of the period.

by Anonymousreply 5210/27/2013

Slight clarification for some here - Jody's solo debut came when she was London based in 1984 - two singles ('Where The Boys Are' and 'Girls Night Out' - the most notable thing about either was that the latters b-side, 'My House', was covered later by Paul Lekakis).

Like Janet Jackson, Jody had a 'secret marriage' (to Andre Cymone) for a number of years.

Biggest reveal of the Shalamar 'Unsung' to me? The Jeffrey/Jody relationship.

And I was a HUGE Jody/Shalamar fan.

by Anonymousreply 5310/27/2013

Was Where The Boys Are the old Connie Francis song?

by Anonymousreply 5410/27/2013

The late 80s and early 90s were a volatile time in the industry. From 1987 to 1992, here are the various female solo acts who all had some success and fought for supremacy in the pop and r&b world (Note-only considering the ones who had more than 1 album):

Whitney Houston-survived past 1992

Madonna-survived

Cyndi Lauper-RIP

Janet Jackson-survived

Sheena Easton-RIP

Pebbles-RIP

Jody Watley-RIP

Karyn White-RIP

Paula Abdul-life support in mid 90s then RIP

Taylor Dayne-RIP

Vanessa Williams-thrived/peaked in mid 90s

Mariah Carey-dominated the 90s

Celine Dion-very successful throughout 90s

and on top of that, there were of course the groups such as En Vogue, TLC, Wilson Phillips, SWV, Xscape...there was SO much competition that after 1992 most of the top women flopped which is unfortunate. I'm a fan of most of the acts I just mentioned.

The sad part is you don't see hardly any successful female black singers these days. Beyonce and Rihanna are really the only ones, and Beyonce hasn't put out new music she might flop too. Nicki Minaj isn't a singer so I don't count her. Other than that, it's all white girls. I'd like to see the nice mix we had in the late 80s/early 90s come back.

by Anonymousreply 5510/27/2013

Nope. It was a meandering hookless mess of originality.

by Anonymousreply 5610/27/2013

oh and I forgot Mary J Blige-she started in 1992 but her success was very streaky (up and down) throughout the 90s.

I didn't include Toni Braxton because her first album didn't come out until 1993, when the dance craze was over. She did have a moderate first single in 1992 off the Boomerang soundtrack though.

by Anonymousreply 5710/27/2013

Embarrassed to admit how much I liked "Some Kind of Lover."

by Anonymousreply 5810/27/2013

Autotune is to blame for a lot. And the fact that branding has taken over alongside the decline of people actually buying music.

People attending Beyonce concerts tweet about her lipsyncing but they still go. It's about working the aspirational angle (beauty, fashion, sex) more than ever.

If you want to work the music angle (Emeli Sande, Adele), you better write your own songs, so vocalists only are screwed.

by Anonymousreply 5910/27/2013

R55, you forgot to mention Brandy, Aaliyah and Monica. They were pretty successful in the late 90's, after that the invasion of the white girls happened. Britney, Christina, Jessica Simpson and Pink happened and these black female singers have been dying out ever since. Only Rihanna and Beyonce are left standing, barely.

by Anonymousreply 6010/27/2013

Rihanna is barely standing? Not talking about talent here, but she's probably the premiere female hitmaker of her time.

by Anonymousreply 6110/27/2013

Rihanna is barely standing because she is quickly being replaced by Miley Cyrus. This is how it always goes in the music industry with black artist being replaced by whites.

by Anonymousreply 6210/27/2013

Who replaced Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey? Celine Dion? Psh.

by Anonymousreply 6310/27/2013

Actually it was Mariah who was Whitney's replacement. Sony and Tommy Motolla groomed Mariah to be the white Whitney even though she is biracial.

by Anonymousreply 6410/27/2013

R60 no I didn't include Brandy, Monica and Aaliyah because they came out after 1992. I was only talking about the overcrowded number of top female acts who were around either before or during 1987-1992.

by Anonymousreply 6510/27/2013

and of course add in Belinda Carlisle, who actually was RIP at the beginning of the 90s, much to Madonna's joy.

by Anonymousreply 6610/27/2013

Howard Hewitt ('s fine ass) was married to Nia Peeples and they have a son. He was supposedly hard to work with (his ego was out of control), and even though he was the last to join Shalamar, he wanted to always be the lead.

Jeffrey Daniel went on to choreograph for Michael Jackson. He was married to Stephanie Mills for some time. There was a rumor that he once pushed her out of a moving car.

by Anonymousreply 6710/27/2013

A lot of it also had to do with radio station mergers, and Soundscan changing the way airplay and a "hit" was calculated.

When a lot of radio stations merged there was a big focus back to male singers and male bands, both in pop/R&B as well as rock. Tori Amos and Sarah McLachlan knocked a lot of other women out in the mid-to-late 90s because those stations had slots for, like, three women performers, and that was IT.

by Anonymousreply 6810/27/2013

Damn I miss videos. I remember you couldn't commit to liking a song until you saw the video. LOL Here she is in Still a Thrill. One of my all-time favorite songs. She was everything Janet Jackson wished she could be.

by Anonymousreply 6910/27/2013

[quote]She was everything Janet Jackson wished she could be.

I don't think so

by Anonymousreply 7010/27/2013

I remember some casual talk on radio and in general at the time suggesting Jody as a possible Catwoman in Batman Returns. Jody has seriously leonine eyes.

by Anonymousreply 7110/27/2013

[quote] I remember some casual talk on radio and in general at the time suggesting Jody as a possible Catwoman in Batman Returns.

That explains it. Jody Watley is tied up in Sean Young's basement.

by Anonymousreply 7210/27/2013

Porn star Midori is her younger sister.

by Anonymousreply 7310/27/2013

You can't have an Jody thread without posting the epic REAL LOVE.

by Anonymousreply 7410/27/2013

MOST OF ALL is another fave of mine off her first CD. It was written and produced by Patrick Leonard.

by Anonymousreply 7510/27/2013

One more favortie of mine off her first album is the awesome and woefully overlooked duet with George Michael, LEARN TO SAY NO. Why it wasn't released as a single is a mystery.

by Anonymousreply 7610/27/2013

They were crazy not to release Learn to Say No.

by Anonymousreply 7710/27/2013

Her sister was a PORN ACTOR? Did this received much coverage in the press? Is the sister a drug addict?

by Anonymousreply 7810/27/2013

Jody was fierce without the army of back-up dancers and over-the-top costumes today's acts require. She could bust a jam and rock those heels/earrings solo. Rihanna/Katy/Gaga/Miley take note, please.

by Anonymousreply 7910/27/2013

[quote]Her sister was a PORN ACTOR? Did this received much coverage in the press? Is the sister a drug addict?

I don't think there was much coverage or mention about it at all. The two women favor a great deal though. I don't think she's one of those "tragic" porn stories, either.

by Anonymousreply 8010/27/2013

I only know her from the Cole Porter "red hot and blue" album, she sang "after you, who?" wonderfully.

by Anonymousreply 8110/27/2013

The youngest daughter on "Family Matters" was also a porn star.

by Anonymousreply 8210/27/2013

How did she die??

by Anonymousreply 8310/27/2013

R79 that's because Jody was a dancer first and had plenty of practice coming up with dances to match whatever beats she heard while on Soul Train. Being a dancer on there really prepared her for Shalamar and her solo career. Jody could just go on stage and sing while improving dance moves. She didn't need anyone else to make her look good.

by Anonymousreply 8410/27/2013

There was a lot of drama in Shalamar. A lot of things they didn't go into on their Unsung. In the early eighties Jody had her first child which caused a lot of tension. It was never revealed who the father was. The suspects were Howard Hewitt, Leon Sylvers (their producer) and Dick Griffey (head of SOLAR records). Jody definitely has a juicy book inside of her if she decides to write it.

by Anonymousreply 8510/27/2013

Howard Hewitt was hot.

by Anonymousreply 8610/28/2013

No way is Howard Hewett the father of Jody's oldest kid. She never liked his ass despite his good looks. He was a real jerk and Jody didn't care how good looking or talented he was-she wasn't going to let him get it.

by Anonymousreply 8710/29/2013

Jody is back with new music! Here is her latest song "Nightlife":

by Anonymousreply 8810/31/2013

Jody's interview on access hollywood from tuesday:

by Anonymousreply 8910/31/2013

The lyrics of Nightlife are Ian Curtis level deep.

by Anonymousreply 9010/31/2013

been bumpin' "Everything" on repeat! a nice ballad from her

by Anonymousreply 9112/25/2014
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