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Morrissey talks about his first serious relationship in new autobiography (re: sorta comes out?)

Morrissey describes moment 'the eternal "I" became "we"'

Singer did not enter first serious relationship until the 1990s, when he was in his mid-30s

Morrissey did not enter into a serious relationship until the 1990s, when he was in his mid-30s, he writes in Autobiography. When he met Jake Owen Walters, he writes, "for the first time in my life the eternal 'I' becomes 'we', as, finally, I can get on with someone".

Morrissey writes movingly about the two-year relationship. "Jake and I neither sought not needed company other than our own for the whirlwind stretch to come," he writes. "Indulgently Jake and I test how far each of us can go before 'being dwelt in' causes cries of intolerable struggle, but our closeness transcends such visitations."

Morrissey never specifies whether they were lovers, but talks of sharing hotel suites, of being photographed with his head "resting on Jake's exposed belly", and of Jake bringing him tea in the bath.

He also recounts an exchange at an airport. "'Well,' says the woman in the British Airways lounge, 'you're either very close brothers or lovers.' 'Can't brothers be lovers?' I imprudently reply – always ready with the pointlessly pert, whether sensible or not."

The ending of the relationship is described in a way that could hardly be more Morrissey – with a visit to his home by Alan Bennett, who observes the pair and says: "Now, now. What's going on? Something's happened, hasn't it? … You haven't spoken a word to each other since I arrived."

Although Autobiography never specifically addresses Morrissey's sexuality, he talks about his lack of interest in girls as a teenager. "Girls remained mysteriously attracted to me," he writes, "and I had no idea why, since although each fumbling foray hit the target, nothing electrifying took place, and I turned a thousand corners without caring … Far more exciting were the array of stylish racing bikes that my father would bring home."

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by Anonymousreply 8505/24/2020

I wonder if he admits to being in love with Johnny Marr?

by Anonymousreply 110/17/2013

He "never specifies if they were lovers"? How much more specific does it need to be for the moron that wrote the article? Should he put it on a flashing neon sign?

by Anonymousreply 210/17/2013

"but our closeness transcends such visitations." God he sounds insufferable.

Bitch listen, you were "together" all of two years...and it doesn't sound as if even THEY were that easy.

Get back to me when you hit say,your 25th or even 10th...then we'll talk.

by Anonymousreply 310/17/2013

I have very little interest in music -- I couldn't name a Smiths song if my life depended on it -- but for some reason I read this article with quotes from his autobiography, and will definitely read the book.

The interchange with David Bowie is the most DataLounge-like thing I've ever read outside of this site.

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by Anonymousreply 410/17/2013

I bet the book will be funny. I want to read it.

by Anonymousreply 510/17/2013

He sure can write lyrics but his way with words does not extend to an entire book.

by Anonymousreply 610/17/2013

Why isn't it being published in the US? He has a massive fanbase here. Oh well, guess I'll illegally download it.

by Anonymousreply 710/17/2013

Those quotes are funny as hell

by Anonymousreply 810/17/2013

is it impossible to order books published in the uk?

by Anonymousreply 910/17/2013

He's a genius. Always admired his honesty. Never got the idea he was closeted or ashamed. Always honest about his struggles with human attraction and clearly, for a long time, has been one who has transcended beyond the need to label themselves anything for the sake of others' satisfaction.

by Anonymousreply 1010/17/2013

yes r9 abebooks.com

by Anonymousreply 1110/17/2013

I wonder if he talks about Pete Burns in the book. They were rumored to be lovers in the mid eighties. I can only imagine what the fallout of that relationship was like, given that both of them are major bitches on wheels.

by Anonymousreply 1210/17/2013

Was he definitely involved with the late Billy MacKenzie from The Associates ("William, It Was Really Nothing")?

by Anonymousreply 1310/17/2013

Pete Burns and Morrissey

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by Anonymousreply 1410/17/2013

[quote]Why isn't it being published in the US? He has a massive fanbase here. Oh well, guess I'll illegally download it.

Morrissey is a known cunt when it comes to dealing with record labels, so I'm sure the same applies to publishing houses. As you see earlier in the thread, there was some drama that the book wasn't even going to come out. I'm sure he either didn't bother with finding a U.S. publisher or he did, and none would agree to his ridiculous terms.

I thought it was going to be released digitally here, but Amazon doesn't have it yet. They do already have third-party sellers offering it for sale.

I just checked Amazon.co.uk and it comes out to about $21 with shipping, although I think the final total will be less than that with the VAT refund.

I'm a huge Smiths fan, minor Mozz solo fan. I have very mixed feeling about reading this book, even though I'm sure I'll eventually buy it.

by Anonymousreply 1510/17/2013

Just realized it there's another thread on this book on DL, and that's the one that details the drama of the book being almost published, then not, then published.

by Anonymousreply 1610/17/2013

[quote]I have very little interest in music -- I couldn't name a Smiths song if my life depended on it -- but for some reason I read this article with quotes from his autobiography, and will definitely read the book.

Really? I loved the Smiths, but M always sounds pretentious and obnoxious interviews. I don't think I could stand a whole books-worth of it.

[quote]The interchange with David Bowie is the most DataLounge-like thing I've ever read outside of this site.

Good one

by Anonymousreply 1710/17/2013

I always thought he sounded funny in interviews.

by Anonymousreply 1810/17/2013

I didn't know about the rumored Billy Mackenzie relationship. Or maybe I did, and forgot...I was a little obsessed with Billy about a decade ago. What an underrated singer he was. That would have been a hot pairing.

by Anonymousreply 1910/17/2013

One of the best Morrissey interviews ever, by Nick Kent, in The Face magazine, March 1990:

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by Anonymousreply 2010/17/2013

Love him and will buy the book. That said, I second R3.

Poor thing, sounds like his ego has prevented him from ever being able to explore a real relationship.

by Anonymousreply 2110/17/2013

x

by Anonymousreply 2210/18/2013

I am humasexual! Was reading morrissey's wiki and I guess even his band mate said he had been with many women as well as men. Either way, gotta admire his attempt for honesty even at his height, where he always said he was mostly asexual...

by Anonymousreply 2310/31/2013

I do not get his damage at all. His parents really loved and supported him. He was not unloved by them nor rejected by them.

by Anonymousreply 2410/31/2013

Is this the Jake Walters he writes of? When did this thing between them take place?

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by Anonymousreply 2510/31/2013

If that is Jake he is hot. Like a really hot version of Luke Willson, at least from that picture.

How do we really know his parents loved him and supported him? And to say he is "damaged" is kind of a judgment....I think morrissey speaks the truth about life, neither in a negative or positive way, just truth as he sees it. There is a reason he is iconic, people.

by Anonymousreply 2610/31/2013

no, I think this was the Jake

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by Anonymousreply 2711/03/2013

The me of we!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 2811/03/2013

He has a girlfriend and it's not Tina

by Anonymousreply 2901/21/2014

HE IS GOING TO RELEASE HIS NEW ALBUM 'World Peace Is None of Your Business' in July!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by Anonymousreply 3006/28/2014

His new lyrics are poor written.

by Anonymousreply 3106/28/2014

I used to like him. Hear first hand that he is a cunt.

by Anonymousreply 3206/28/2014

Jake Walters is now a photographer. This is him (link). Morrissey's new record is surprisingly getting the best reviews he's received in twenty years. We'll see.

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by Anonymousreply 3306/28/2014

R32 Of course he's a cunt, you can tell just from looking at him. That face.

by Anonymousreply 3406/28/2014

I'm a HUGE Smith's fan.

Morrisey, OTOH, I can't stand. He's genuinely miserable most of the time. An insufferable twat.

I find it unacceptable for someone with millions of dollas and access to the best of everything in life to wallow AND be indignant blaming the rest of humanity for his problems.

It's a teenage POV and his self righteous attitude about his "lot in life" is patently ridiculous.

Still love those Smith's albums. Not one of his solo songs have ever matched even the worst Smith's song. (If there is a worst.)

by Anonymousreply 3506/28/2014

R35-Mary!

by Anonymousreply 3606/28/2014

EAT

A

STEAK

BITCH

by Anonymousreply 3706/28/2014

He's only a quarter as clever as he imagines he is. At most. The strained effort to impress on everyone how bookish and cutting he is is extremely tedious.

by Anonymousreply 3806/28/2014

Holy shit. I can't keep this to myself, tonight I saw firsthand evidenxe that Morrissey has had an on/off with Russell Mael of Sparks for DECADES. This is mental.

by Anonymousreply 3902/11/2015

h

by Anonymousreply 4002/12/2015

Wow, any more deets, R39? Had never even heard they knew each other.

by Anonymousreply 4102/12/2015

Morrissey is a huge Sparks fanatic. Sparks also released a single, "Lighten Up, Morrissey", in jest. What did you see?

by Anonymousreply 4202/12/2015

BUUUUUUMP!!!!

We're waiting!!!!

by Anonymousreply 4302/12/2015

His autobiography is not that "new". I bought it two years ago! The cover photo of Morrissey is hot. Mmmmm!

by Anonymousreply 4402/12/2015

Are there any pics of the two of them together? I'd like to see the pic of him with his head in Walters lap that he described.

by Anonymousreply 4502/12/2015

Alright how to tell without incriminating myself...I will fill in details as I can though. so Sparks are playing two huge shows this weekend in LA, I am directly involved in the production. One of my scamp colleagues had Russ's computer as we were aiding in the transferring of some files, and we peeped the mail app because we're shameless cunts. My colleague sees the name "sm" on a massive email thread, loads of replies, and we immediately know figure it's Morrissey, as we've both corresponded with him/his team on former jobs. Obviously we can't help ourselves, all the recent exchanges were about the show or other boring pleasantries, so we clicked around the middle, and there are these exchanges of intimacy, recollections of things, Morrissey expressing angst about living in a spotlight and feeling unable to be with anyone publicly, something like "let alone it be a man, and let alone that man be you, with your image", jealousy of Russell/women, I'm talking hundreds of exchanges, we weren't able to scan it all and found no juicy photos, but there is something between these two and I'm floored. These are musical heroes of mine and there was something so touching about it but also terrifying because my god, how intrusive. I feel ill about reading on but... I dunno.

by Anonymousreply 4602/12/2015

omg that is equal parts juicy and horrible R46. Juicy as in finally some real gossip, but horrible as in WTF, your friend committed a huge, huge betrayal of trust. You really should not have posted this. Please continue!

by Anonymousreply 4702/12/2015

[quote]His autobiography is not that "new"

Hey, braintrust. This thread *is* two years old.

by Anonymousreply 4802/12/2015

That would have been juicer for his autobio, IF IT WERE TRUENice try, though, thanks for participating. NEEEXT!

by Anonymousreply 4902/12/2015

More, more, more [46]

by Anonymousreply 5002/12/2015

You should sell to the highest bidder, r46. I love The Smiths but fuck Morrissey, he is an A1 prick.

by Anonymousreply 5102/12/2015

I don't know what else to say, I'm only posting it because again, I think it's the juiciest thing I've ever come across in all my career, I was rather sloshed last night, and I haven't directly identified myself or my colleague. I... have so much respect for them both, this is the maddest cognitive dissonance I've ever experienced!

by Anonymousreply 5202/12/2015

Yes Morrissey is a cunt I still like him. And so is my friend Julie.

by Anonymousreply 5302/12/2015

R46, are you still ill ;?)

by Anonymousreply 5402/12/2015

@R54 ha! I am indeed.

by Anonymousreply 5502/12/2015

How is this not a huge story

by Anonymousreply 5602/13/2015

?

by Anonymousreply 5702/14/2015

He has no lips!

by Anonymousreply 5802/14/2015

It must not be true R56

by Anonymousreply 5902/14/2015

R59 I think it's totally plausible but like, Sparks are too cult/glam for anyone to be surprised or give a shit that they would be gay. The Morrissey detail is really interesting though, because he has alluded to a former partner within the music business in multiple interviews

by Anonymousreply 6002/14/2015

Hopefully the guilt ridden gossip queen comes back with some juicy detail after the show

by Anonymousreply 6102/14/2015

of course they know each other morrissey is the one who talked them into doing this show

by Anonymousreply 6202/14/2015

But why didn't he write about this relationship in his book? Or did he? Has anyone here read it?

by Anonymousreply 6302/14/2015

He's here right now, I haven't seen him interact with Russell yet, watching very wishfully with DL fired up on my phone. Alex Kapranos from Franz Ferdinand is here and I'd love to be ravaged by him on this lonely fake holiday but he Google says he's straight. Side note: I've had a few and must gripe that I find it terribly irritating that the Sparks guys insist on utilising UK spellings for everything. They're using PROGRAMME and HARBOUR on their merch board and I'm two pints from shrieking about Americans appropriating UK culture. However, I am in their country...

by Anonymousreply 6402/14/2015

Morrissey and both Mael brothers have been friends since the 80's. His last lover was a straight-indentifying Italian, and he has a close friend/former lover named Charles who he lives with when he's in L.A. (Charles also takes care of their dogs, so Morrissey can't cunt him out of his life.) R46 needs to take his meds.

by Anonymousreply 6502/16/2015

Morrissey has the most beautiful dark blue eyes. He looks every year of his age, but the eyes are still the most beautiful color.

by Anonymousreply 6602/16/2015

Charlie Brown R64? The father of the baby who Moz is holding on an album cover?

by Anonymousreply 6702/22/2015

bump

by Anonymousreply 6803/06/2015

I haven't read the book. By the way, did Morrissey ever date a woman, or he was romantically involved only with men?

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by Anonymousreply 6904/07/2015

Apparently he was with women and men.

by Anonymousreply 7004/07/2015

[quote] Apparently he was with women and men.

Oh, Morrissey, don't be silly. Pete Burns is *not* a woman.

by Anonymousreply 7104/07/2015

Can YOU imagine Morrissey with a girlfriend?

by Anonymousreply 7204/07/2015

I think Morrissey is just gay, but he is too vain to admit that. So he implies that he is bisexual.I believe he is attracted sexually only to men. That's only my opinion, of course...

Great singer, i love his work, but i didn't like his last album much...

by Anonymousreply 7304/07/2015

His nephew directed his newest video. It is one of the worst videos I have ever seen. I can't understand how someone who once supervised the design of the coolest LP and EP sleeves of all time could allow a video this bad to happen.

by Anonymousreply 7404/07/2015

R74, I agree it's a bad video. I assume Mozz paid for it himself, as Captiol dropped him a month after his album came out last summer.

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by Anonymousreply 7504/07/2015

[quote]He also recounts an exchange at an airport. "'Well,' says the woman in the British Airways lounge, 'you're either very close brothers or lovers.' 'Can't brothers be lovers?' I imprudently reply – always ready with the pointlessly pert, whether sensible or not."

Mary!

by Anonymousreply 7604/07/2015

I would like to know more about his relationship with Billy Mackenzie. Does he talk about that in the book at all?

by Anonymousreply 7704/07/2015

Why Morrissey and Alain Whyte don't work together anymore? Is there bad blood between them? What happened? Does Morrissey talk in his book about it?

Is Jesse Tobias gay...?

by Anonymousreply 7804/08/2015

Morrissey seems to fall out with almost all his collaborators at some point.

by Anonymousreply 7904/08/2015

I don't believe he's ever had any girlfriends. Is there any proof?

by Anonymousreply 8009/19/2016

R80 the only proof you need is to bend him over and see that battered rosebud to realise that his ass has had more traffic in it than Clapham Junction.

by Anonymousreply 8112/10/2016

Russ Mael and Mozza?!!!

by Anonymousreply 8211/09/2018

I never knew Morrissey was in the closet. From the second I ever heard of him, it was always said, by everyone he was a gay.

by Anonymousreply 8311/09/2018

Morrissey's favorite singles and abums:

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by Anonymousreply 8405/24/2020

*albums

by Anonymousreply 8505/24/2020
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