Blue-collarish gay Italian-American guys

I grew up in the Italian-American culture in NY

It can be the most homophobic experience. However, boys are mini-Gods and are treated as such. Mama's boy, that live at home until their 30 (if they ever move out). Thinks anyone that's not Italian is inferior. Terrible racists too.

Nobody cooks or cleans like dear old Mom. They're obsessed with their moms

This is all a sweeping generalization, of course.

Kiss Me, Guido!

Yes, they are spoiled by their mothers and sisters. Not all of them are racists or homophobes, just afraid of judgment by other italian guys. Some of them are ridiculously sentimental and make very loyal friends. And many of them are hot to death.

this thread is useless without pics

I know a Joey who is the youngest of 8 in an Italian/Irish family. They all seem very accepting, I've met both of his elderly parents and a few siblings. He's totally out, about 40ish.

I'm from Bensonhurst. My parents are Italian, not Italian-American (I don't call her Mom, but Ma, or mamma; we speak Italian with our parents). Everyone in the neighborhood, from my parents to their friends, who've known me my whole life, are wonderfully accepting of my partner. I don't think anybody's ever uttered the word "gay," but everybody understands, and my partner is invited to every holiday and even to Italy to visit relatives. I hate depictions of Italians. If they're accurate, they're portraying Italian-Americans, not Italians, and Italian-Americans are Americans.

I had a friend who lived in Bensonhurst and was obsessed with Italian guys. He said he never had so much dick in his life. However many of them were closeted but also many were smoking hot.

I know a Joey and an Angelo. They're both closeted

Mario was our maintenance man at a 40 unit apartment building I lived in 30 years ago. Handsome, dark and very hairy. He loved getting head. The landlord caught Mario with his wife and Mario was gone. He was the talk around the pool for weeks. Turns out Mario had about a dozen men and a half dozen women at his sexual disposal at all times. On top of all his charms, he was very charismatic.

I don' know anyone like that. It's disgusting!

My parents were Italian immigrants also. On one hand I was spoiled (not with money because there wasn't any) but more...babied. It's hard to grow up in that environment. From a young age, I knew that whatever it was that was wrong with me (gay) would not be accepted and I wouldn't be loved. So, I was in serious denial and yes, I got married and have children. I was probably wrong about not being loved but it set in very early. My father died when I was young. I came out very late in life, about a month before my mother died. No, it didn't kill her.

I was aware enough of others in my extended family and acquaintances that I would end up living at home with my mother if I didn't leave so I did move far away at 24.

Can someone call John Travolta up and ask him what it's like?

Italian-American here whose family came from the Florence region, and let me tell you if you're mainland Italian, particularly northern Italian, nothing pisses you off more than being lumped in with those Sicilian apes. We are almost two separate cultures. When people think of the American "guido" culture from the NY tri-state area, it is Sicilian culture. Go to Italy and you will not find any Guidos.

To put it another way: Sophia Loren and Giorgio Armani vs. John Gotti and that Guidice woman from the Housewives show. Get the picture?

I know a Vinnie and a Mike and a Paulie D who are all closeted.

I live in the Italian market, lots of closeted gay mamma's boys here - my land lady's son who lives on my block is too

Don't forget Ronnie getting caught on cam grabbing Vinnie's crotch, giving it a quick rub, and whispering "Gimme some of that dick."

My brother-in-laws family are all from Northern Italy and they are still cafones. Loud, racist and a chip on their shoulder against anyone with an education.

It also has a lot to do with how many generations you are removed from immigration. My parents were both born there (in the South yet) and I have nothing in common with Guidos.

Why do you suppose that is?

r18 - was that question for me?

I'm not Italian but grew up in Brooklyn, hung out at Spectrum back in the day and have a ton of Italian friends.

It's funny. People here on this thread say Italian-NY culture is homophobic. I personally never saw any of that at all. All of the gay guys and girls I knew were super-tight with their families. A few of them were from the really big crime families too. You know what some of their dads did when one of them came out? Put them in the bar business. There used to be so many gay bars/clubs in and around Brooklyn and Staten Island in the 80s to mid-90s, it was insane.

Yeah, most of the guys lived at home too. But I never complained. They were hot fucks and I always got fed the next day by their Nonnas.

I've known quite a bit of them and all I can say is there is nothing better than thick, Italian sausage.

FUCK. YES.

They're all oral, Never anal

OP forgot to ask for eras and years. God only knows what decade you guys are referring back to, and what generation. Times change.

What about white-collarish gay Italian-American guys?

And let's not forget the pink collarish ones

r23 that's a problem with personal stories on DL. Many people here are shut-ins who stopped paying attention many, many years ago and still think everything's like it was back in 1975. Read the college tuition, NY apartment, and job-hunting threads for some good laughs.

Really R22? Damn, I'll have to go hook up with some of them. I'm the same way.

[quote]Go to Italy and you will not find any Guidos.

Cafone.

I still miss my Johnny -cakes

Prostitution whore!

Generally better lovers than relationships. Most I've gone out with have ex-wives to contend with

[quote]To put it another way: Sophia Loren and Giorgio Armani vs. John Gotti and that Guidice woman from the Housewives show.

Sophia Loren is from the South (Naples), same as Teresa and Joe Giudice (Sala Consilina).

*snap*

I live in South Philly and there are some hot Italian boys around here, especially in the hoagie place down the street form here. You know, natural hard bodies, thick full lips, jet dark hair, pale white complexions...yum...Always wearing basketball shorts and black socks with sandals.

So beautiful. They don't even realize how beautiful they are.

Thankfully I have the same last name as a notorious Philadelphia Italian so I get treated nicely around here (though I'm no relation and more German than Italian).

I often like the type, and I never had a close family. Hmm. I need to find a hot Italian boy with an accepting family and a momma to cook for me!

R34 = Francine rizzo

That is actually true, R22. It's all blow-and-go according to my friend in Bensonhurst.

R26 is so right. I often read posts here talking about dating or other youthful pursuits and it sounds like something my septuagenarian parents would say. Just laughably outdated advice and bizarre observations.

Are they yutes?

Are...are they whut?

If you're going to cook for one of them, you'll just have to accept that whatever you make will never be as good as anything their mother or grandmother makes.

Tony Falco owns this thread.

You-thssss.

Kurt Stefano

Ditto what r41 said.

They can eat my cock

Once upon a time,[early to mid-1980s],there was a place on Bath Avenue in Bensonhurst where lots of Italian-American men went for some HOT 'down low' sex.

I have many fond memories of my experiences there. I used to travel all the way from the Bronx to hook up with these 'Guidos'.

[quote][R26] is so right. I often read posts here talking about dating or other youthful pursuits and it sounds like something my septuagenarian parents would say. Just laughably outdated advice and bizarre observations.

Totally agree. This place is filled with old farts who refuse to acknowledge the world is continually changing.

My best friend in high was a hot Sicilian with 2 scorching hot 'Italian stallions' as they called themselves.

God their asses were perfection: round and plump.

Yes, they did have this weird love/hate relationship with their mother, with so much screaming in the house. Seriously, I was 17 and I was mortified to hear my friend raise his voice to his mother!

They were always horny! Always talking about sex or wanting to get laid. Too bad I was so shy. My friend and his brother, separately, let me know that I could have had sex with them.

Anthony Vito Recker is a blue collar half Italian-American guy.

r47, do you remember where on Bath Ave it was? I used to live on Bath Ave but was way too closeted then to even look at guys other than in magazines.

R51, it was on Bath Avenue near Twentieth Avenue. I'm not going to give the name of the place -- yet [or what kind of place it was]. I want to see if anyone else remembers the place first.

Yes please

I find many things very peculiar about Italians. For one, they are usually finicky about their food, but they love, love, LOVE to eat ass.

R52, wasn't it a porno theater? I never went, usually drove to the baths or bars in Manhattan.

I also remember a gay bar on New Utrecht avenue. Couldn't believe there was one in that neighborhood. But as someone explained up thread, the owner was probably a gay guy with a mobster dad.

I know a gay Italian guy, he said he has a typical Italian family. He told his mom he was gay at age 13 and started going to gay clubs at age 14. He said his parents were upset, but he didn't give a shit. He is happily married to a black guy.

R13, Sophia Loren was from Naples. She's a Southern beauty. Sorry, you can't claim her.

R55, yes it was; it was called the Deluxe.

Closeted guys [ranging in age from late teens to seventies] would come in quite regularly [usually at night]. The place was very active for a while [approx. 1982-85], but eventually people stopped going there -- I think that fear of AIDS was the main reason.

You could do anything that you wanted there, and *never* had to worry about cops harassing or arresting people.

There was another adult theater on Kings Highway [near Ocean Parkway], that was even better. There were tons of 'Guido' dick to be had!

Oh, the memories! New York City has really changed -- and NOT for the better.

So where can one find this Bensonhurst dick now? I'm totally looking.

That's nice, r48- Have you ever considered going and fucking yourself?

I think it's funny that John Travolta, Tony Danza, and Matt LeBlanc all became famous playing guidos.

Most Italian guys have a really strong Homo vibe about them, Like they can't wait to suck cock

We're not all Guidos.

surely not, but the ones I know personally are and they all give off a slightly sublimated homo vibe.

I come from a big NY-based Italian-American family. I didn't come out to my (widowed) mother until I had moved out of state at 33, and was surprised when she said she had no clue. She said she didn't want to tell the rest of the family (about 8 assorted aunts and uncles still living, and just over 25 first cousins +/- 10 years of my age), and I said that was up to her, but I didn't really care what the family thought of me. Of course, I knew she couldn't help but "confide" in a few of her sisters and brothers, and they, in turn, would tell EVERYONE. No biggie.

Then again, with 25 first cousins, odds were that there had to be at least one more gay man or lesbian in the bunch, and I asked my mother about that. With some hesitation, she confided that a youngeer male cousin had "come out" to everyone about five years before, and - although it seems like a Don'tAskDon'tTell thing on the surface - there are always "jokes" made about him behind his back, which is why she didn't want them to know about me. I got in touch with him, and we exchanged some e-mails. Though he was secure in a relationship, I could tell the family's attitude bothered him a bit.

Flash forward about five years, and I was in NY to visit when a big "family" dinner was held at a local restaurant. As luck would have it, I was sitting opposite my aunt, mother of the "other" gay boy in the family (as well as his two hetero siblings). I made small talk with her, asking how *everyone* was. She gave me lengthy stories about the two hetero cousins, their families and accomplishments, but, when I asked (several times) about the one I had something in common with, she would just say "He's fine" and go on to talk more about the others. I had to resist making a scene, reminding her that she has THREE great kids, not just two. It annoyed the crap out of me, and I made it a point to avoid such gatherings since.

[quote] I don't think anybody's ever uttered the word "gay."

No, they call you finocchio instead.

I prefer Pinnochio, thanks

[quote]I prefer Pinnochio, thanks

Lie to me, bitch!

I worked at at straight dance club in Boston in '79 which was Mafia owned and all the doormen were Italian muscle guys who had young boyfriends on the dl. They would fuck around with women but they had the boys on a short leash. It was fascinating.

[quote] all the doormen were Italian muscle guys who had young boyfriends on the dl. They would fuck around with women but they had the boys on a short leash. It was fascinating.

Yeah right.

Sounds like my sexual fantasy

I know this thread is about Italian-Americans, but I've always wondered why Italy and Italians are so gay-uncomfortable, while Spain and Portugal, two similar, adjacent Latin-Catholic countries are so gay-accepting. This translates over to Latin American countries as well --- most Latinos are pretty OK with gay people, albeit still Catholic.

Thank you for sharing your experience, R65. A very interesting peek into Italian-American life. FWIW, I knew an Italian-American guy in college. The apple of his father's and mother's eye as he was the youngest child (and only son) of their three kids. He came out mid-way through college and after much drama and crying, his parents somewhat accepted him but definitely still loved him. He did get the sense, however, that his father thought he was defective in some way.

The 2003 comedy "Mambo Italiano" is actually about a gay son of an Italian family in Canada, but it is (an exaggerated, yet) fairly close idea of what I would expect of my family in NYC.

Entire film is available at YouTube link below.

Ciao! :)

cheasy

Are there any pictures of Vinnie from Jersey Shore's dick?

With Parmesan cheese on top!

I'll have LOTS of cheese on mine, R76!

No, all Federal Reserve notes, no matter how old are still legal tender. There's no need to exchange.

Even for eye-talians, r78?

Wasn't this subject dealt with by the Will-and-Vince storyline on W&G?

he was there

Happy fucking friday you gay gumbas!

love in the fast lanes of New Jersey

Craving a big hunk of gabagool right now.

me too

More Italian manmeat

R86, Too late its all been eaten up

Philly is crawling with this type of guy.

I grew up in a working class Italian-American neighborhood in Washington DC. (I'm not Italian).

I totally understand and am comfortable in Italian culture. Most of my bf's have been Italian-American subsequently.

One bf grew up in Staten Island. He says three guys his age from the block came out about the same time--Moms think it's something in the water.

Grew up in Bensonhurst in the late 70s, early 80s. It's hard to distinguish Italians in that era from everyone else in the city. Everyone was provincial in the sense that you didn't venture far. So many people I met who grew up in Manhattan nevuh evuh went to Brooklyn if they could help it. So yes, I grew up in a very insular neighborhood. We were Italian more than American: we spoke Italian and secondarily whatever dialects we spoke at home. We grew vegetables in a tiny garden in back. Had friends over on Sunday for a midday meal. Nobody was a drug addict. Everybody had a job by 14. I was a nerd but most of my friends didn't finish high school. Opened a business or worked in finance. The boys were gods and the girls were minislaves. Younger siblings were cared for by older sisters.

But when I came out my parents asked to meet my partner and they've been amazing, introducing us to their friends. It's awkwards, at times, because everybody in the neighborhood is one way and I'm not. Everybody else lived at home until they got married and then moved nearby or upstairs.

And yet, it isn't my Italian relatives and friends who make gay jokes. It is every fucking hipster who hears I'm Sicilian who asks if I'm in the mob.

Going for advanced degrees is something atypical but that changed a lot with the generation that is about 30 years old now. That was the turning point.

This is very specifically about my experience as a first generation Italian. Second generation Italians? They're American. If you don't speak Italian to your parents, you're American. If you call it gravy, you're American. By then the culture's a blend of Italian (mostly just nostalgia) and American (consumerism, a sense that you can do anything--sadly not part of my Italian ethos).

Thanks for sharing your experience, R90. Very insightful!

Yo. You wish, doncha, paisono?

Would gay Daddy Calafiore and his two gay Italian-American sons (including Big Brother 16 runner-up Cody) care to share their multi-generational gay Italian-American experiences?

The Deluxe closed in the mid-80s. Replaced with 12 residential and four retail units.

I'm about 70-75% Italian

Dad is 100% and Mom is about 40-50%

I'm masculine, blue collar and gay

And yes we do exist

I'm third-generation Italian-American, in my mid-30s, and my siblings, cousins and I are all 100% American, as are all of our parents. None of us have any real connection to Italy, and none of us are anything at all like the "guido" Italians of the NY/NJ area. I've noticed that Italians who are not working-class assimilate very quickly, and not only that, but by the second generation they're basically indistinguishable from WASPs. At least that's the case in much of the Northeast, with the aforementioned exception of the working-class NY/NJ Italian-Americans.

R96 -- I would say Guiliani is a good example of the WASPy Italian effect.

Loved the Spectrum Club in Brooklyn! Too bad I only discovered it about 3 months before it closed.

It was so different from the Manhattan clubs I was used to. Filled the Italian-Americans (LOVE THEM!) and everyone was so nice!

I would say he's not, because an assimilated man would never have hooked up with Bernie Kerik

(R13) Absolutely correct. My parents were both from the north and the only kind word they would say about anyone from the south was they would make good servants. If there was a marriage pending my parents wanted to know what region the bride's/groom's parents came from if they were immigrants. The North was depicted as cultured, best food, fashions and speaking correct Italian.

R13 & R100...which is total bullshit, since Sophia Loren is from Naples, not northern Italy.

Both your arms must be sore from making sweeping & idiotic generalizations.

When I was first coming out, I was pursued by this gay Italian guy. His huge family owns a restaurant that is an institution in this city. He was hot, but he was a bit older and I thought I was in love with my first boyfriend.

I was at the restaurant the other night and he was there, as were his husband and their two little kids, running around. It seemed like a big, loving, loud family. I was with my boyfriend's reserved WASP family. Quite a contrast. I'm happy, but I did wonder what could have been...

They all start losing their looks at rapid speed as soon as they hit 30.

Nothing is better than getting fucked by a hairy Blue collar Italian. Nothing

R96 Philadelphia is the same way as NJ/NY with their Guido type of Italians too.

I'm the poster that's about 70% Italian and they all act that same way for the most part

And yes Italian men DO talk with their hands and gesture a lot.

By the way Philadelphia is the 2nd most populated city by Italians in the US after New York City.

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I grew up in an Italian American neighborhood in the DC area. I've loved them ever since. I love the way they talk with their hands and get angry and argumentative at the drop of a hat. I love their passion and, of course, their swarthy look.

This thread is nothing without more pictures of hairy Italians.

I know a gay Guido. A bit of a mama's boy, but an enormous ten incher that swings when he walks.

Yes ma'am.

There are still Italian-American neighborhoods where black people won't go through... Not that that is something to be proud of.

Where I grew up we had a large Italian population. Many of the guys were very hot. Unfortunately in my experience, they were lousy lays who usually fucked like a jackrabbit and then felt Catholic guilt about a microsecond after cumming. I did have a couple who were pretty good, but not the best lays I ever had.

I know of many masculine bi Italian dudes

DL still believes it's the 1980s. It lives in a time warp.

Why do you say that, R113? You think no blue-collar Italian guys exist anymore or haven't since the '80s?

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LOL! Spectrum! That was the place back in the day. The boys were not gay..they were there just for the music. Right.

Italian-American culture fascinates me in it's "otherness." On paper, considered white, but c'mon: swarthy-skinned, dark-haired, macho, Catholic = much closer to a Latino culture than WASP.

Cute little Ralph Macchio looks basically indistinguishable from any of the Latino boys I see scampering around LA..

I suck their cocks until they scream

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Nothing like an Italian-American man in a white wife-beater!

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Somehow Italians have managed to maintain a separate ethnic identity, 100 years later, while no other Euro-American culture really has..

We're not all dumb Vinny's. The mayors of the two largest American cities are both I-A..

I live in CT and all of the Italian-Americans I know are third or fourth generation and totally indistinguishable from other white people. In fact, they act like WASPs. The blue-collar Italian-Americans in the NY metro region act like the Sopranos, but most Italian-Americans aren't really "Italian" anymore, in terms of cultural identity, they're 100% American.

In my experience, the homophobic "bark" is worse than it's "bite". Italians have a reputation for being homophobic, but I've personally never known anybody whose parents disowned them for being gay. You hear about that shit a lot with religious types in the south, etc, but growing up Italian in Staten Island, of all places, I never saw that happen. My mother had a bit of a hard time when I came out, but my father made it clear he loved me no matter what. My parents grew VERY close with my partner, and all of their neighbors (who I've known my entire life) adore her as well. One of them recently pulled me aside and told me that he had never felt comfortable with gay people. He was a retired firefighter, and he didn't like that their were gay men in his fire station. But, he said, getting to know me and my other half and how...well, normal, we are, he said it's really opened his eyes. He was teary-eyed as he told me this. Very sweet.

A lot of people on Staten Island are Republicans, but they're more fiscally conservative than anything. I grew up hearing a lot more racial comments than homophobic ones. The racism still exists to this day on that island. that I can attest to. A close friend of mine recently came to the island for a funeral of a mutual friend. Black guy with long dreads, from East New York. He said he never felt so uncomfortable in his life with all the stares he was getting. People are suspicious of any black people they see south of the highway on staten island. Ridiculous.

I did used to beard for an Italian guy in the mid 2000's. I was about 20, he was 25. His parents were mafia, lived in one of those big houses in Dyker Heights, Brooklyn. It was a fun little arrangement. I wonder what became of him.

R126, I wonder how much worst your experience might have been had you been a gay Italian-American [bold] man [/bold] instead?

I grew up I-A in south Brooklyn (Bay Ridge). Still a very macho culture, blue collar in sensibility. Nevertheless, 5 guys in my class ended up gay in my block alone, and our mammas wondered if it was something in the water or WASP influence..

There are fewer and fewer full-bloods, and I think that is a shame. Despite all my grievances against Italian-American culture (as an Italian-American), it would be a shame for our unique culture to be wiped out..

I do agree with R126 re: racism and black people, however. I-A's were solid union democrats until the late '70s at least, but the Howard Beach/Bensonhurst racial incidents in the '80s were the straw that broke the camel's back. I-A's felt betrayed that liberals (rightfully) took the side of the black victims. Mass exodus to places like Staten Island ensued. There is still a very racist undertone that exists with I-A's of that generation and it has spread to the kids (this, despite them loving hip-hop and African-Amercan culture)...

Very sad and ironic when you consider how long Italians were treated as non-white for decades and decades by WASPs. It took 3/4 of a century for Italian-Americans to be accepted at the white table..

And in many respects, Italian-Americans are still treated like shite by whites and non-whites alike. Italian-Americans are still portrayed as uneducated, loudmouth buffoons (Vinny the plumber, or Tony the mobster). No other "white" ethnic group faces the same level of minstrel stereotyping. No other white group holds anti-defamation groups dedicated to eradicating negative stereotypes..

More please, R128! Fascinated by your post and respectful of your culture and viewpoint on why went things went down the way they did.

if you're hairy, I'm gonna fuck you, okay, I-A gays?

Italians were the only white group to live side by side with blacks, compete for jobs, fight for turf.

It makes sense that we're the only ones assertive or tough enough to give them the business.

Cocky

Italian-Americans are still a scrappy bunch. There are still Italian neighborhoods in New York, Philly, Cleveland where blacks do not tread. (I don't think this is a good thing, at all, btw).

[quote]It took 3/4 of a century for Italian-Americans to be accepted at the white table..

You greasy, dark skinned wops are considered white???

HAHAHAHA

I'm Italian American who grew up in CT and there's a big disconnect between the Italian-Americans in the NYC/NJ area and New England. NE Italian-Americans tend to be indistinguishable from WASPS while the NYC/NJ Italian-Americans are basically the Gottis or the Sopranos.

So New England Italians were the wonder-bread wops who chopped off the vowels from their last names?

No r137, we just aren't the Guido types you see in NYC/NJ. We just basically assimilated more quickly, I guess, and blended into the dominant WASP culture. At this point, those of us who are third and fouth generation are Italian in name only and 100% American. And non-Italian whites don't see us any differently.

At third- and fourth-generation, many Italian-Americans are blended into Irish, WASP, Polish and other white (and yes, even non-white) cultures, diluting the older Italian-American culture and gene pool. Yes, many are indistinguishable from WASPs, because well, they aren't all that very Italian anymore.

Believe it or not though, there are still pockets and neighborhoods of fullblooded Italians in New York/New Jersey, stubbornly holding onto the old ways, the old traditions. I don't think this is a bad thing..

[quote]Believe it or not though, there are still pockets and neighborhoods of fullblooded Italians in New York/New Jersey,

Philadelphia too, and every other large city, especially on the east coast but also in Chicago and out west. I think you actually overstate the level of assimilation among Italian Americans, and the earlier posts support that. There are many Italian Americans still making sauce for Sunday dinner every week and generally fitting the stereotypes. Italians assimilated with WASPs? Maybe in some ways and in some locales, but it varies by degree among families and individuals. One side of my family is Sicilian and while none of them make cannolis or toss pizza dough for a living (they're all college educated professionals), they're still very culturally Italian American.

Not Italian but loving this thread! May you eye-talians never lose your Americanized culture.

I just want to chime in and say that every person I've ever met who is of 1/2 Italian and 1/2 German heritage has been absolutely stunning. It's a beautiful combination.

R128 explains most succinctly how the democrats lost the 100% rock solid Italian-American vote to Republicans.

A shame, too, because I feel the democratic party is far more in tune with Italian values than the nasty Republicans ever could be. Republicans hoodwinked many Italians into believing they were "family values." So untrue. The republicans are basically the antithesis of everything the Catholic Church preaches.

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R136's experiences match mine. I'm a WASP who grew up in New England in a smaller city with a large Italian-American population. The third and fourth generation I-As blended with the WASPs and were fully assimilated. Many of my friends were third generation I-As and they didn't speak Italian (they were forbidden to do so by their grandparents who wanted them to be accepted as Americans), nor did they hold on to any old ways. Assimilation seemed to be the goal.

[quote]I'm Italian American who grew up in CT and there's a big disconnect between the Italian-Americans in the NYC/NJ area and New England. NE Italian-Americans tend to be indistinguishable from WASPS while the NYC/NJ Italian-Americans are basically the Gottis or the Sopranos.

You're such an idiot.

[quote]The republicans are basically the antithesis of everything the Catholic Church preaches.

Uh, the Catholic Church is all about homophobia, sexism, and hypocrisy. It's exactly in line with the Catholic Church, honey.

I like Italiano cock but they can be a bit bossy.

I like the bossiness

I love Marcello from guysite.

Me too, big guido, fucked every which way

Dear Lord inna Heaven!

I got picked up by an Italian guy once. He was here on business and took me back to his hotel room and proceeded to literally fuck the shit out of me for about 2 hours. One of the best nights I ever had. He was just incredible.

So where do all the Italian juiceheads come from then?

Marcello has fat Italian fingers that I love.

R124 Eric Garcetti isn't Italian-American. His father is Mexican and his mother is Jewish.

He's a guido all the same

With a last name like Garcetti, there's some Italian somewhere.

I bet it's hot Italian cock up his well presented hole

Porn star Solomon Aspen (Zachary Santangelo) is bi and of Sicilian descent.

R13 I actually knew someone from Piedmont who was named Guido, who greased up his hair and wore necklaces! His family was from Piedmont they were not from Southern Italy at all. So sometimes that stereotype applies to the so called Northern Italians.

Many of the Sicilian Americans you will meet in the US are very OCD and macho. They are some of the craziest people you will ever meet.

[quote]...proceeded to literally fuck the shit out of me for about 2 hours.[/quote]

If you had prepped first this wouldn't have happened.

Solomon is adorable, a guy to take home to MAMMA

I'm 3rd generartion Italian-American. . Grew up further north but it didn't stop me from coming out. My grandmother loved my husband to death.

But here's the rub - while I make look italian and am hairy from head to toe and a last name with plenty of vowels and repeating consonants - the thing that opened my eyes was getting my genes sequenced. Turns out yeah about 25% Italian, with another chunk representing Sardinian and Iberian even a little Ashkenazi and Mohawk thrown in. The latter stuff is from my father - the Mohawk from my mother. What it says is that my fathers side of the family, they got around.

if you're a hot italian guy, you should get around too

Your life's going down the toilet!

With most Italian families, even second and third generation, familia trumps it all.

In the 80's my best friend's brother came out as gay after college, moved to NYC. His parents cried a bit, then got past it. Within a few years all his friends found a seat at family dinners. The parents had a house at the Jersey shore and the third floor had a sort of dorm set up in the attic. Five or six beds, separate bath. Haha , I wanted to creep up there but was a scared baby gay. All of his friends were drop dead gorgeous, successful, and interesting. Used to NYC nightlife, they would be looking for something to do in the evenings so went to the one gay bar in Asbury Park. Out all night partying, then coming home to a huge breakfast cooked by Mama.

R163 then fuck the shit out of.

R123 Irish Americans do. As do Jewish Americans.

Growing up I was best friends with a kid who was Italian, second generation mom and dad - I was in Junior high and his brother was a Senior and built like brick shit house. I lusted after him most of my childhood. I would spend friday nights over the frequently - his parents would go out on a friday night and his brother was supposed to watch us but he would go out an party while us two just hung out at home. We got into the booze one friday night and my buddy got shit faced and passed out. I was drunk but not too drunk. His brother comes home (they shared a bedroom - when I slept over I slept on the floor). He is lit like a christmas tree, strips down to his undies and flops on the bed. Next thing I know he is grabbing his crotch, pulls out a fucking giant boner and starts yanking it. I sat up and he looks over at me and just keeps slowly beating off and looking at me. I moved over to his bed side and he is still just looking at me. He grabs my hand and puts it on his dick. He moves my hand up and down then takes his and away. I got one hand on his dick and the other I am just feeling all over his hard hairy chest. Next thing I know he has his hand on my ass. He sort of pulls me up on his bed and guides my head down so I just started blowing him. I was in fucking heaven. I used to steal gay porn mags out of the local bookshop and I saw pictures of all this and now I was doing it. He pulled me up and rolled over so I was on the bed and he was on top of me. He kissed me hard, first time I ever had another person't tongue in my mouth..I fucking loved it. I could not get enough of the kissing (to this day if I am with someone who does not kiss or is bad at it I am out).. He was nudging my legs apart..I had some idea what was going to happen but I was drunk making out with my BFF's brother in the same room he was passed out in...I didn't care. He rubbed his big dick up and down on me then reached over to his night stand. I heard something open and next thing I know he is slapping something gooey on my ass as he works a finger in. He said the only word he said to me that night, he stopped kissing me an whispered in my ear, relax. He went back to kissing me and i felt that sharp initial pain of entry, he kissed me hard held me down a little and just kept going, and I relaxed. He was very slow and deliberate, he never stopped kissing me even when he blew his load in me, I am not even sure if I came that night..after a few minutes of him lying on top of me, he got up and took a shower. I just moved back to the floor and looked over to make sure my friend was still passed out. He came out of the shower and hopped into bed, and was snoring in a few minutes...I got up and went to the bathroom to clean up myself...I went back to the floor and fell asleep. Next day we all woke up and he behaved like nothing had happened. My friend was oblivious, he had a hang over and we went down to his mom making breakfast. I half believed I dreamed the whole thing except my ass was telling me it really did happen. After that I spent most every friday night that summer at his house. We fucked a few more times then he got a steady gf and that was that.

It was without a doubt one of the hottest fucks of my life...and my first.

italians love doing it together

The most I know are sex-crazed maniacs

A lot of northern Italians could pass for Nordic, due to being raped by Vikings for 300 years. My entire family is northern Italian, and we're all fair - pale, blue-eyed, and blond or light brown hair.

So am I

Once you've been violated by an eyetalian, you'll never be the same again

FWIW, my great grandmother from Southern Italy was a strawberry blond. 2 cousins with Southern Italian parents both have blond hair, blue eyes.

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[quote]I got picked up by an Italian guy once. He was here on business and took me back to his hotel room and proceeded to literally fuck the shit out of me for about 2 hours. One of the best nights I ever had. He was just incredible.

Literally? Like, you're telling us that he made you poop?

R164 can I floss on your chest?

Is the son of the former Philly mayor Frank Rizzo, gay?

Local PBS did a documentary, "Italian-Americans of New York and New Jersey," A friend born in Italy commented that they only featured Italians from the South

Thank you R170 that is the best post on this thread!

I was about to go to nifty but there is no reason to now!

R173 Northern Italy was Celtic and Etruscan before the Romans came. The Etruscans were supposedly from Armenia and were not fair. The same Lombard and Normans who ruled in Northern Italy also ruled in Southern Italy as well. In a Sicilian or Neapolitan family someone can look German or Dutch and their sibling might look like an Arab.

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Psst! Ya gotta look out for the ones with hoo mothers. Anyone with Big Ang-Ish traits.

Those guys, their rage will kill you and them.

Imagine some skankin' whore like THAT being your birth vessel.

The rage runs deep. Dangerously deep if bio dad is missing from the picture.

STEER CLEAR!!!

R170, thanks. I'm 18,again.

To R9, My engineers were named Marco,Tony and Vinny, they ran the building I lived in when I was a teenager in Florida. All 3 of them were Hot, I sucked off Tony and Vinny for yrs,esp. when their wives weren't putting out. I suspected Tony was "family"because he used to suck my dick-let me fuck him(he was the first guy I fucked)

The whole language thing is really unfortunate.

I mean those who want to learn Italian when they get older because it gives them a stronger tie to their heritage are in for a very rude awakening.

It is hard as shit.

People should be teaching their children to be bilingual from a very young age.

And it is a fabulous language.

[quote] People should be teaching their children to be bilingual from a very young age.

Italian is a gorgeous language. And both my parents (first-generation) spoke Italian fluently. However, the fear of not assimilating had been drilled into them from an early age, so they refused to speak Italian around any of their kids. Same thing with my aunts and uncles. Only when we visited my grandparents (who came here from Italy) did I hear my parents or their siblings speak Italian. And I've heard the same from many friends whose parents refused to speak Italian.

And, ultimately, it was such an unnecessary precaution. By the time I was growing up, no one really cared any more. The sting of discrimination my parents' generation felt in the first half of the 20th century had largely disappeared.

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I see bilingual italian-americans in my neighborhood.

Italian was cool when I was growing up in the 1960s, R189. My neighborhood was Irish-Italian-Jewish, in northern NJ. My father (Irish) had a next-door neighbor who was from Naples, and from her, he learned that the best food is Italian, which he passed along to me. He taught me how to cook in an Italian manner, well enough not to embarrass myself, and then I discovered Marcella Hazan and Giuliano Bugialli. So basically, I cook and eat like an Italian.

Frankie was a big faggola!

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[quote]I grew up in a working class Italian-American neighborhood in Washington DC.

Where was that?

Unfortunately there aren’t many in Los Angeles. The Los Angeles Italian festivals mostly have Mexican people show up.