KTVU Reports Asiana Air Pilots Were “Sum Ting Wong” and “Ho Lee Fuk”
KTVU Reports Asiana Air Pilots Were “Sum Ting Wong” and “Ho Lee Fuk”
Asiana Crash Investigations Focus on Pilot Inaction
Investigators scrutinizing the events leading up to Saturday's Asiana Airlines plane crash in San Francisco are examining the behavior of the… Read…
Bay Area news station KTVU just reported that the pilots of Asiana's disastrous flight 214 were the crack team of "Sum Ting Wong," "Wi Tu Lo," "Ho Lee Fuk," and "Bang Ding Ow."
Despite the names obviously being just a bunch of racist jokes, KTVU, which has since apologized for the report, claims in a statement given to Gawker—and read on the air—that an NTSB official confirmed the names to them earlier today.
EARLIER IN THE NEWSCAST WE GAVE SOME NAMES OF PILOTS INVOLVED IN THE ASIANA AIRLINES CRASH. THESE NAMES WERE NOT ACCURATE DESPITE AN N-T-S-B OFFICIAL IN WASHINGTON CONFIRMING THEM LATE THIS MORNING. WE APOLOGIZE FOR THIS ERROR.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||07/29/2014|
Racism is awful and this is so inappropriate...
...but I have to admit, kinda funny.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||07/12/2013|
The video at the link is hilarious. I can't believe the anchor could read those names out loud on the air and not realize they were being pranked.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||07/12/2013|
R2, I don't think most of the blockheads who read the news even listen to what they're reading.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||07/12/2013|
This is a much bigger coup than the airport paging system.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||07/12/2013|
That is hilarious! How could someone not catch the joke before it went on the air?
|by Anonymous||reply 6||07/12/2013|
In our defense, we didn't see it coming.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||07/12/2013|
My last name should always be pronounce with a short vowel sound.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||07/12/2013|
The tail was named Won Hung Lo
|by Anonymous||reply 9||07/12/2013|
During the Viet Nam war, San Francisco Chronicle columnist Art Hoppe regularly wrote humorous anti-war pieces about enemy characters such as Hao Bout Dem (a buxom dragon lady). The few Vietnamese immigrants in California at that time had fled the communists, so no one was offended when Hoppe made fun of them.
The San Francisco bay area has been rife with jokes about Asian names since long before the Gold Rush of 1849. They're not uttered in public much anymore, but people do tell them to each other -- you'd think that someone at KTVU would have noticed how at least one of these names sounds when spoken. And what's with the NTSB confirming the names?
|by Anonymous||reply 11||07/12/2013|
[quote]And what's with the NTSB confirming the names?
They didn't. Gawker says that the NTSB told them that they don't release the aircrew names. Somebody claimed that they were from that agency, but they lied.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||07/12/2013|
Not appropriate. It's stereotyping.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||07/12/2013|
Someone will lose a job over this. Who was supposed to check copy?
|by Anonymous||reply 14||07/12/2013|
Do Asians make fun of Western names?
|by Anonymous||reply 15||07/12/2013|
Something can be funny and racist at the same time. What probably upsets Koreans most is those fake names sound more Chinese than Korean.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||07/12/2013|
Bwahhahahaha! That was fuckin hilarious. She sounded so professional and serious.
That poor reporter's one saving grace was her discreet pronunciation of "Ho Lee Fuk" as Ho-lee-fook. Good catch, on her part. I probably would have said fuck.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||07/12/2013|
"Ho Lee Fuk" is even trending on Twitter
|by Anonymous||reply 18||07/12/2013|
R10 has some issues he needs to work out.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||07/12/2013|
Newsflash! It was a FOX NEWS AFFILIATE! This story is no different from anything else approved by their fact checkers :P
|by Anonymous||reply 20||07/12/2013|
Is R13 for real? "Not appropriate?" I'm stereotyping you, Missy Phat Gunt Sou.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||07/12/2013|
lol. that's hilarious and i'm asian hahah
|by Anonymous||reply 23||07/12/2013|
Girl, she should be just as embarrassed about the blush. What did she use, dry erase markers?
|by Anonymous||reply 24||07/12/2013|
One of the best trolls ever!
|by Anonymous||reply 25||07/12/2013|
I don't see what's the big deal. The joking names don't affect my opinion that drivers of oriental heritage are horrible drivers. Hell, insurance companies feel the same way. I don't know how many Chinese or Korean nationals are visiting in the US at any one time, but I doubt they are dedicated viewers of KTVU while on holiday.
I don't think Americans with some Chinese heritage will do anything but laugh with everyone else.
It simply isn't racist, it's a play on syllables that might be taken for an asian national's name.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||07/12/2013|
Holy cow, that's hilarious! But what the fuck is with the reader - she couldn't look at that list and say "I'm not reading this nonsense?"
|by Anonymous||reply 27||07/12/2013|
That newscaster must have the IQ of celery
|by Anonymous||reply 28||07/12/2013|
they sound like manicurists.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||07/12/2013|
"Oriental" R26? Really? And that's putting aside the rest of your idiotic post.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||07/12/2013|
I'm surprised that other people in the TV studio didn't start laughing as the anchor was reading the names. Didn't anyone at the station realize those names were a joke?
|by Anonymous||reply 31||07/12/2013|
It sounds like an intern at the NTSB was part of the prank.
From the LA Times:
Late Friday, the NTSB acknowledged that a summer intern confirmed the names to KTVU when a reporter from the station called about them.
"Earlier today, in response to an inquiry from a media outlet, a summer intern acted outside the scope of his authority when he erroneously confirmed the names of the flight crew on the aircraft," the NTSB said in a statement.
"The NTSB does not release or confirm the names of crew members or people involved in transportation accidents to the media. We work hard to ensure that only appropriate factual information regarding an investigation is released and deeply regret today's incident. Appropriate actions will be taken to ensure that such a serious error is not repeated," the statement added.
Summerville said the station didn't properly verify who at the NTSB was confirming the names.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||07/12/2013|
An NTSB summer intern...
Still, what kind of idiot test does one have to pass before being hired as a newsreader?
|by Anonymous||reply 33||07/12/2013|
Here's the NTSB's press release apology.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||07/12/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 36||07/12/2013|
I had to look it up:
raugh out roud - asian for laugh out loud
|by Anonymous||reply 37||07/12/2013|
Why does R10 think we give a fuck about his life? Stop thread-jacking, loser.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||07/13/2013|
I heard that Ho Lee Fuk is an insatiable bottom.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||07/13/2013|
Were the mystery guests born outside the United States? Were they born in what we'd call the Orient?
|by Anonymous||reply 40||07/13/2013|
R10 thinks he's going on The Bachelor when he goes to the office.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||07/13/2013|
I really hope R10 posted from work so the IT guys can see what a racist asshole he is.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||07/13/2013|
The freeper trolls are allllll over this thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||07/13/2013|
R39 is one of those empty-headed trolls.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||07/13/2013|
It's nice that the Asiana CEO, Yu Dai Nao, has been in personal contact will all the survivors and victims' families.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||07/13/2013|
[all posts by flame bait troll #11 removed (violent racist homophobic right-wing misogynist), ISP notified with full text of all posts.]
|by Anonymous||reply 46||07/13/2013|
[quote]Also, why can't big, beefy, masculine, muscular...
So you're effem-inate then...
|by Anonymous||reply 49||07/13/2013|
Did they try my wonderful beef chow mein?
|by Anonymous||reply 50||07/13/2013|
Yep, that's a perfect example of what PC is r51. If you hear those types gushing on about how terrible "racism" is, just stay with them for a while. It won't be long till the same people will start making negative comments about Asians. PC is all about a seething hate toward some groups and a fawning adoration of others.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||07/13/2013|
I think this Gawker comment says it best:
I'm so torn here. Do not like racism. Do not like racist jokes. Do like mocking tragedy.
But I like this.
Fucking cognitive dissonance.t
|by Anonymous||reply 53||07/13/2013|
It's hilarious that some troll got this through to broadcast by a yet another vacuous teleprompter reader. Asian-name jokes have been done a million times though and are pretty lame.
The oh-so-serious woman reading, who no doubt considers herself a "professional" news anchor and broadcaster, will be remembered for this among her colleagues for years. She will not endure ribbing about it well and will call it an "affront to her dignity" while others snicker behind her back for being so stupid.
What gets broadcast as "news" in the US is a perfect reflection of corporate values.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||07/13/2013|
That's bullshit, r52, and an excuse for your own terrible behavior. I don't tolerate racism about any group including Asians. And most intelligent people I know don't tolerate it either.
Last night's episode of "What Would You Do?" On ABC showed a stand up comic making racist comments about an Asian woman and two audiences stopped the comic in protest. It was fantastic.
You may be racist but not everyone around you is.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||07/13/2013|
My issue is not with the racism, per se. It is with the selective approval of racism. It's ok to be racist against Asians, but never African Americans. If the flight had originated in Africa and the jokes had been skewed that direction, the outrage wold have been huge, rather than, "whoops, sorry. But you can understand how his could happen since they all have such funny names anyway."
|by Anonymous||reply 56||07/13/2013|
Don't forget the person who typed up the visual.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||07/13/2013|
r56 is right about the double standards. r55, that was what was being objected to in r52.
And of course note that r55 had to project and spew bullshit like "your own terrible behavior" and "you may be racist..." But really, that's all they ever have; creating fantasy enemies and putting words and ideas in the mouths of others so they can have something to trash.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||07/13/2013|
R10 is all kinds of racist. Whites certainly can do your job. Chinese are not a gang.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||07/13/2013|
If KTVU called the NTSB to confirm the names, they were doing their job. If you can't trust the official federal department, then what other official sources can you reach out to?
KTVU might be a Fox affiliate, but it is a fine local news station. Local stations don't play partisan.
I hope that intern will be blackballed. You get a golden opportunity to intern at the NTSB to further advance your future goal and return the favor by being a complete racist jackass.
Millennials are a bunch of jackasses.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||07/13/2013|
r58 why blame the anchor? The station did their job and confirmed it with the NTSB. It's the federal agency in charge of the investigation. How else would you like them to confirm the names? It's not like Asiana Airline is talking to the press. The fault lies solely with the jackass intern and no one else.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||07/13/2013|
Not solely no. The people who came up with the list in the first place are to blame.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||07/13/2013|
It's called common sense, R63. Read the names out loud and the joke announces itself to you instantly. Unless you are one of the Ted Baxters whose job is to pretend to keep America "informed" while the Pentagon and Wall Street rob us blind.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||07/13/2013|
r64 The list was obviously created by the intern, unless the NTSB knew about it. I doubt it because while most federal agencies has been subjected to criticism, the NTSB has been pretty stellar.
If you want to fault the NTSB for hiring another Snowden-like jackass, then that would fair.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||07/13/2013|
[quote]why blame the anchor?
Because anyone with a brain can see those are fake names? Because you don't just repeat whatever nonsense you're handed as fact?
|by Anonymous||reply 67||07/13/2013|
[quote]Read the names out loud and the joke announces itself to you instantly.
Not necessarily. As with the prank call in the link, many people don't get it.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||07/13/2013|
r65 it's the NTSB. This is after a major crash. What kind of agency in the midst of all this chaos has the time to pull a Bart Simpson? A rational person would say that the NTSB is too busy with the investigation to pull racist jokes on the press.
Sorry that you no longer have any trust for the federal gov't. But if I was a news organization and I need to confirm names, I would call the NTSB.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||07/13/2013|
It was hilarious. I nearly peed myself. It's as if a newscaster solemnly announced after the Challenger disaster, "It has just been confirmed that NASA Needs Another Seven Astronauts."
|by Anonymous||reply 70||07/13/2013|
I didn't get either r68. I've known many Chinese where I grew up and live and some of the names can make a westerner giggle.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||07/13/2013|
They said at the tv station that "the NTSB has confirmed the names." That means someone called the NTSB and asked if those were the names. It doesn't mean the NTSB intern made up the names.
So who made up the names?
|by Anonymous||reply 72||07/13/2013|
People like R62/63/66 are why horrors like the Tuskegee syphilis experiment get conducted.
"Well, the government says it's ok..."
"Donald Rumsfeld says waterboarding isn't torture and he works for the government. OK!"
|by Anonymous||reply 73||07/13/2013|
[quote]why blame the anchor?
It repeats what the government tells it to repeat or else it gets the hose again.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||07/13/2013|
r73 you're a complete moron. Apples and oranges. Why don't you compare this to the Holocaust, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||07/13/2013|
Don't worry R62 - you'll grow up some day.
Most of us got scolded with "If your friend told you to jump off a bridge, would you do that too?" in elementary school and got the point early in life.
You'll figure out someday that "someone told you" isn't an adequate substitute for using your own head.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||07/13/2013|
The anchor should be fired.
I'll bet the intern who did this is some rich kid who did it for laughs and will now get a writing gig on SNL or some other lame show that's a bastion of privilege.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||07/13/2013|
It's almost impossible to believe: Someone gave the list of names and their spellings to the TV station. Then the station called the NTSB to get the names confirmed. Then the names were loaded into the station's graphics system. And they were written into the anchor's script and loaded onto the Teleprompter. And then the anchor read them out loud on the air. And AT NO POINT in this long process did anyone realize that the names were a joke.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||07/13/2013|
[quote] I heard that Ho Lee Fuk is an insatiable bottom.
And Bang Ding Ow is a nasty top who is absolutely brutal in bed.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||07/13/2013|
[quote]The anchor should be fired.
She's a good anchor who has been there for years and has rarely made mistakes. This is not her fault and I hope they don't blame her. Who's reviewing what's fed into the teleprompter, they need to be fired.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||07/13/2013|
R78 is right. What kind of news anchor goes on the air without looking over the news first? How could anyone miss those joke names?
|by Anonymous||reply 81||07/13/2013|
There is no double standard here. This story is getting national attention. The NTSB is having to explain itself. The station was smart enough to apologize immediately for the error.
So when all sides immediately apologize and take blame, the story doesn't blow up. That's different than someone saying racist things, not apologizing or reprimanding those that did it and then expecting their business will no be impacted.
Trying to equate the two things is stupid and silly.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||07/13/2013|
The names originated at KTVU. The station submitted them to the NTSB for confirmation. A summer intern confirmed them, then Tori Campbell read them on air.
The summer intern did not make up the names.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||07/13/2013|
I have to admit that, initially, I didn't really sound out the names. I just thought that they were more Chinese then Korean but whatev. About the third time I saw the thread, I realized just what they were and had to laugh a little bit...
|by Anonymous||reply 84||07/13/2013|
"Local stations don't play partisan."
What dreamland do you live in?
|by Anonymous||reply 86||07/13/2013|
This is something like Ted would have read on the Mary Tyler Moore Show.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||07/13/2013|
Seriously, R55? You're going to quote that staged piece of pussy shit "What Would You Do?" as an example of... anything? I am deeply embarrassed on your behalf.
By the way, if you are a shill and/or work for that show, could you please tell them to stop portraying gays as shy little lambs who need heteros to step in and defend them when they are abused? Pure victim class bullshit and I don't know a gay or lesbian who wouldn't fight back -- not whimper in humiliation like the bad actors playing us do.
The pussyfication of America continues. "Everyone play nice!" So over you PC cunts in your make believe victim world.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||07/13/2013|
Not torn here. Every time I read this thread, I still chuckle. Sorry if I'm not being PC, actually I'm not! Fuck PC
|by Anonymous||reply 89||07/13/2013|
Actually, people are standing up and not taking the kind of bullshit you seem to cling to like a fat pig in stewing in its own shit.
The fact that you're complaining about how the world is changing to be more aware and more tolerant of all people is proof that our side is winning. No matter how much you pretend "PC" is a bad word with weakening powers, it isn't. This news station realized right away that this stunt was inappropriate and they apologized for it. As they should, asshole.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||07/13/2013|
[post by racist shit-stain #3 removed.]
|by Anonymous||reply 91||07/13/2013|
[quote]The list was obviously created by the intern, unless the NTSB knew about it.
R66, you're an idiot.
"In seeking to verify the names, an unidentified KTVU reporter called the government safety agency's public affairs office for confirmation, though did not read the names out loud, KTVU said. The station didn't clarify how the names were conveyed to the NTSB representative, who turned out to be a summer intern."
KTVU submitted the names to the NTSB and took the word of a summer intern as verification.
Journalism pro tip: You might want to ask for the job title of the person who's confirming your racist Asian names list.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||07/13/2013|
[quote]I'll bet the intern who did this is some rich kid who did it for laughs and will now get a writing gig on SNL or some other lame show that's a bastion of privilege.
Let's hope so.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||07/13/2013|
[quote]KTVU submitted the names to the NTSB and took the word of a summer intern as verification.
This doesn't make sense. Reading the names over the phone, one of the two would realize it was a joke unless it was two of the biggest idiots on Earth. Writing the names for an e-mail communication should have pointed the writer and the reader to a joke.
We haven't gotten the real story, yet.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||07/13/2013|
[quote]Reading the names over the phone, one of the two would realize it was a joke unless it was two of the biggest idiots on Earth.
Maybe the KTVU person just spelled them over the phone.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||07/13/2013|
Hoo Flung Pu all over this thread?
|by Anonymous||reply 97||07/13/2013|
It seems unlikely that no one at KTVU ever said the names out loud before the anchor announced them. When you're given a list of (supposedly) foreign names, one of the first things you do is try to pronounce them, especially if you're in the TV news business, and you know the names will have to be read on the air. I can't believe that KTVU got the names, called to confirm them, wrote them into the teleprompter, and put them on a graphics slide without anyone ever stopping to read them or ask how they're pronounced. It makes no sense.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||07/13/2013|
[quote]Maybe the KTVU person just spelled them over the phone.
IF that were the case, the KTVU person would have had them written out in front of him/her. It just doesn't make sense that the person wouldn't get it unless they were very, very dim. - close to retarded.
Somebody took the time to write that story with those names and that person still is being kept hidden from public view.
Was it e-mailed to KTVU or was it written at KTVU? I think they're worried about some kind of sanctions headed their way for allowing this to air.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||07/13/2013|
As if anyone can barely stand to work with R21.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||07/13/2013|
OMG what a couple of Freeper assholes!
|by Anonymous||reply 102||07/13/2013|
This is why TV stations need copy editors.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||07/13/2013|
Intern #1 at KTVU: Dude! I got a list of the names of the pilots. Here it is.
Intern #2 at KTVU: OMFG! That's hilarious. Dude -- e the NTSB. I swear -- do it! I dare you e NTSB for confirmation of names. Dude, I will give you a hundred bucks ritenow .
KTVU 1: Im doing it,
KTVU 2: You won't! I know you won't!
KTVU 1: Sends email to NTSB. KTVU and we'd like confirmation of the names of the pilots. The names are Sum Ting Wong, Wi Tu Lo, Ho Li Fuk and Bang Ding Ow.
NTSB: intern: oMG Dude! Yes!
|by Anonymous||reply 104||07/13/2013|
I can't imagine that they'll just let this go without finding who came up with the plan.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||07/13/2013|
Damn. I laughed until I cried when I saw this online earlier today. People are so sensitive.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||07/13/2013|
I laughed so hard, I almost burst into flames.
It has very to do with race. What makes it funny is the way the person was able to get this through onto the air, how they did it, and how stupid the anchors are. People do this a lot, you know I P Freely, shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||07/13/2013|
[quote]Millennials are a bunch of jackasses.
GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 109||07/13/2013|
[quote]Last night's episode of "What Would You Do?" On ABC showed a stand up comic making racist comments about an Asian woman and two audiences stopped the comic in protest. It was fantastic.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||07/13/2013|
Anonymous was so totally behind this.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||07/13/2013|
KTVU is a FOX affiliate and they air their programming but, the newscast is very respected here in the Bay Area and not a right wing station by any means and the anchor Tori Campbell has been there for nearly 20 years.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||07/13/2013|
First and foremost -- NTSB and airlines NEVER release pilot names until after investigations are concluded, which takes months. How do people at the station not know this? Is there anyone there with any brains and experience?
Could you imagine Walter Cronkite reading that list on the air?
|by Anonymous||reply 113||07/14/2013|
I can't wait to see KTVU reveal the names of the Zimmerman trial jurors.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||07/14/2013|
Asiana reported that the actual name of one of the pilots is Lee Kang-Kuk. Well, at least he can cook and has something to fall back on.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||07/14/2013|
No, there's no racism anymore in America. Nothing to see here, move along.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||07/14/2013|
For some reason I found "Wi Tu Lo" and "Bang Ding Ow" the funniest.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||07/14/2013|
How long *is* Duck's dong?
|by Anonymous||reply 118||07/15/2013|
Yeah, because people watching KTVU-TV out of Oakland were just gripping the edges of their divans, waiting to learn the names of the pilots of that ill-fated Asiana flight, and then they were LIED TO!
So, what WERE their names? We are STILL WAITING!!
Such vitally important information cannot be withheld from us! We demand to know the facts! Every last, least insignificant one of them, or else we will SUE your lame asses into OBLIVION!
|by Anonymous||reply 120||07/27/2013|
I'm surprised nobody sued the station over this incident.
Frankly, I would've thought Bay Area lawyer Mi Su Yu would jump right on this case!
|by Anonymous||reply 121||11/17/2013|
Producer at KTVU: Luk Fo Wok
|by Anonymous||reply 122||11/17/2013|
"Who's responsible for this racist embarassment?"
"Probably some young guy."
"YOU'RE FIRED, TOO!"
|by Anonymous||reply 123||11/17/2013|
video-KABC 7 in LA got pranked live on the air today and the anchors were too stupid to even realize it had just happened
A major water-main break occurred just north of UCLA's campus on Sunset.
"Ah, yes ma'am, it's 'Slung-poo.'" .
"Someone tossed a cherry bomb or took a really big dump!" LOL
|by Anonymous||reply 124||07/29/2014|
Jesus effen Christ, what's wrong with these news stations? These news people are insanely stupid!
|by Anonymous||reply 125||07/29/2014|