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Why is gay porn so boring?

Most gay porn is so vanilla. Lousy camera angles, boring models, no sensuality. The worst is when it's 20 minutes of passionless banging and asshole closeups. Oral cumshots are extremely rare.

Straight porn actually shows of the girls, and the girls act just so much more into it.

by Anonymousreply 13003/02/2015

More competition in straight porn

by Anonymousreply 207/02/2013

I blame hiring all the Eastern European guys who, while hot, are not into it and make it so boring. They think wagging their tongues at one another is kissing and licking a buttcheek is rimming.

It's really, really dull.

There was one video somebody posted on here a few years ago of a French kid who was being digitaally penetrated. He had curly hair and he was so into it (or being such a damn good actor) that it was incredibly erotic.

by Anonymousreply 307/02/2013

Endless fucking is very, very boring to watch. It's the foreplay, undressing, and sometimes dirty talk and kissing, that make the whole experience much more watchable.

by Anonymousreply 507/02/2013

Oral sex and facial cumshots are the hottest. Endless fucking and focusing solely on close-ups of a guys hole is boring.

Jizz on the face and mouth is hot. Uncut cocks are also a hell of a lot hotter than the boring, chopped versions.

by Anonymousreply 607/02/2013

R1, you describe yourself as "non-gay" but you love gay porn? You need to stop kidding yourself, dude.

by Anonymousreply 707/02/2013

Poor R7, born without a sense of humor.

by Anonymousreply 807/02/2013

Try "Enlusted Soldiers" 1, 2, or 3 from Active Duty

by Anonymousreply 907/02/2013

Pron needs to cultivate storytelling. Not talking Tolstoy...just a little plot. I'd like to see things like: guys getting caught by mom/dad, cops 'n' robbers, something that leads to the sex.

by Anonymousreply 1007/02/2013

I disagree - I hate porn stars trying to act.

by Anonymousreply 1107/02/2013

The actors don't look like real men. They are the equivalent of Barbie.

I would rather watch real people do most anything. I am so turned off by professional porn. I seek out flabby asses, pot bellies and love handles.

by Anonymousreply 1207/02/2013

I just like it when the two guys seem like they are into one another.

Can-Am has those "wrestling" videos that are sex with very fake wrestling thrown in. Not all are hardcore but I like the hardcore ones because the guys are good looking but not plastic, are really getting turned on and can barely wait to get through the fake wrestling bits and have sex. So much hotter than fake Eastern European porn.

by Anonymousreply 1307/02/2013

8. Gimmicky add-ons. No leather getups, paddles, chains, duct tape, etc. Get as kinky as you want with actual sexual activity, but no silliness.

some of us find it hot

by Anonymousreply 1507/02/2013

OP, What are you fucking talking about?

"Women are so into it."- Yea. They are "into" the paycheck that helps support their families and dwindling income.

by Anonymousreply 1607/02/2013

Why don't just jack in-front of a mirror because apparently, if it doesn't reflect your desires it can't be "good" porn.

Get a grip, dude. Seriously.

by Anonymousreply 1707/02/2013

[quote]because apparently, if it doesn't reflect your desires it can't be "good" porn.

Why would anyone watch porn that didn't reflect their desires? You sound like a loon.

by Anonymousreply 1907/02/2013

My problem isn't that he has preferences and taste of what he finds hot-just that it is the ONLY standard for judging quality. Like other peoples desires and wants don't exist. He sounds self absorbed.

If he doesn't like the porn, then don't watch it.

And if he is compelled enough to complain-then maybe he should work in the industry to create the kind he wants to see.

We have enough whiners in the world, not enough people doing something about it.

by Anonymousreply 2007/02/2013

R18, that won't be necessary, prissy-missy. don't you have some runny mascara to attend to?

by Anonymousreply 2107/02/2013

Ignoring your bullshit comparisons to straight porn, I'd say the transgressive element has died.

Performers are no longer breaking taboos by appearing in erotica meant to be viewed by a select audience of closeted individuals.

Viewers now have the option to post pictures and videos of their own performances online so professional performances have lost their mystique.

The money aspect has also disappeared. While producers look to obtain performances audiences will pay watch, actors look to obtain still photography for use in personal ads. Per DL, these performances now serve as advertisements for private 'shows'.

by Anonymousreply 2207/02/2013

r16/17/20, seriously, just shut up. You're making a fool of yourself.

I didn't say women are into it, I say women ACT like they are into it.

Let me guess, you're a failed gay porn star.

by Anonymousreply 2307/02/2013

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by Anonymousreply 2407/02/2013

Visit Fleshbot or Banana Blog or other blog/sites that showcase hot amateur porn.

It's more interesting, more surprising; "quality" cinematography is irrelevant.

Standard cliche situations are dumb. The hot new trends are public sex, amateurs, hidden cameras, etc.

The antiquated, false top/bottom equivalent, (wrongly) stiff direction and cheesy production values of the "Porn" era are as dead as its stars.

by Anonymousreply 2507/02/2013

Like with regular movies, porn that looks staged, posed and "acted" makes the viewer constantly aware that there's something unreal about it. That's why homemade porn is often hotter even though the video/lighting quality is usually very bad.

by Anonymousreply 2607/02/2013

R14. You are so wrong with your #9 statement. Foreskin is huge fucking turn on. Bring on the Bel Ami and Kristen Bjorn boys. Their all-natural cocks make them even hotter.

by Anonymousreply 2707/02/2013

small red inflamed looking dick heads? No. Uncut should be a niche, especially in the US.

by Anonymousreply 2807/02/2013

OP straight porn is rape porn. It is made to make the watcher feel powerful. Gay porn is designed to make the watcher feel wanted. Wanted as a top, wanted as a bottom, wanted as a man.

Love gay porn. Straight porn leaves me cold without the beef curtains.

by Anonymousreply 2907/02/2013

Gay porn is boring because 90% of the performers are gay4pay/bi with wives/girlfriends/children to support. Some guys find this a turn on, it has the opposite effect on me. I don't want to watch guys go through the motions. I prefer to watch str8 porn because I like seeing men actually enjoy themselves.

by Anonymousreply 3107/03/2013

Maybe like Hollywood movies and endless rehashes of classics, the thing just literally wears itself out after time?

Porn has made gay and straight sexual voyeurism accessible to pretty much all, and maybe it's become stale for it? Maybe it's become boring for many because there are only so many things the human body and brain can do and people know what to expect? Once you've seen one, you've seen them all kinda thing?

by Anonymousreply 3207/03/2013

R14, that is the dumbest list ever.

by Anonymousreply 3307/03/2013

I think R14's points are all well taken.

by Anonymousreply 3407/03/2013

Because we're all desensitized.

The more you watch, the more you get bored by it. People want variety and newness.

by Anonymousreply 3607/03/2013

The guys in straight porn seem to enjoy themselves more.

Anyone else notice that?

by Anonymousreply 3907/03/2013

why is there so much hate here? i don't get it.

by Anonymousreply 4007/03/2013

[quote]they're not gay if they enjoy watching str8 porn.

Gay guys have been watching straight porn for years. I guess this is news to you. Gay men often watch straight porn because of the hot guys in it. It's pretty common.

by Anonymousreply 4107/03/2013

Suck, fuck, jerk off separately.

Suck, fuck, jerk off separately.

Repeat ad nauseum.

by Anonymousreply 4207/03/2013

True, R42.

Why do guys almost always jerk themselves off? What happened to letting your partner do it? It would be much hotter.

by Anonymousreply 4307/03/2013

1. They need more diversity! Most of it is white or mixed latin guys. We need more black, asian, indian, middle eastern, native american/amerindian guys.

2. More guys who at least can PRETEND they're into each other. I despise the porns that have no kissing or hugging.

3. Cameras need to stop focusing on the dick in the ass close up for 20 minutes.

by Anonymousreply 4407/03/2013

I need at least a modicum of plot, plus disrobing and foreplay. Not just suck, rim, fuck, cum like automatons. And it helps when they don't look bored!

by Anonymousreply 4507/03/2013

i love a good spaghetti western

by Anonymousreply 4607/03/2013

I prefer amateur porn. The men are real, natural, and are actually enjoying the sex. There's something titillating and voyeuristic about it too.

by Anonymousreply 4707/03/2013

[quote]Gay guys don't enjoy jerking off to str8 porn. If you like watching str8 porn, you're not gay.

You couldn't be more wrong. I love straight porn. There's something incredibly hot about watching a straight man fuck a woman.

And I'm as gay as Christmas.

See what a big, diverse world human sexuality can be if you open your little mind a bit?

by Anonymousreply 4907/03/2013

r48 is correct. Women in the porn is a turnoff if you're into guys.

by Anonymousreply 5007/03/2013

[quote]Yeah, you're not gay.

Am so.

by Anonymousreply 5207/03/2013

[R48]I love straight porn. I don't know if I am gay or not. At 67 years old I have had about 1000 men and 20 women. I had my first dick at 9, whatever that makes me

by Anonymousreply 5407/03/2013

NOT ENOUGH CUM EATING!!

by Anonymousreply 5507/03/2013

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by Anonymousreply 5607/03/2013

[quote]If gay guys can jerk off to str8 porn and still be gay. Str8 guys can enjoy j/o to gay porn and still be str8.

That's completely illogical.

Straight porn has men and cocks. I'm sorry you're too dense and closed-minded to understand this, but watching a man fuck a pussy is fucking HOT.

Gay porn has ONLY men and cocks. No pussy. Therefore a straight man would have no interest in it.

I can't believe I actually had to explain that to you simpletons. What are you, 13?

by Anonymousreply 5707/03/2013

"If you like watching str8 porn, you can't be gay. "

You must be Catholic.

by Anonymousreply 5807/03/2013

R55 and R56

The Cobra stuff was the best. A few so-so types but mostly hot, young guys swallowing cum and taking it up the ass.

by Anonymousreply 6007/03/2013

Did they start allowing mental patients access to the computer room or something?

by Anonymousreply 6107/03/2013

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by Anonymousreply 6207/03/2013

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by Anonymousreply 6307/03/2013

A lot of gay porn is so fake. I only watch if the bottom has a great ass and pretty face or if the top is really hot.

I mostly watch hidden cam porn, 70% of it is straight because I do like looking at vagine and Im bi leaning. Not into masculine bottoms either, that really puts me to sleep. I like guys that are bitches. That limits my options. When people dont think there is a camera recording them they really let go and thats what I like, the voyeuristic part.

by Anonymousreply 6507/03/2013

I like to see guys make out. I mean make out, not bat tongues around, but KISS. That to me is the greatest turn-on. I find so little of that. Occasionally I find clips of a guy kissing and jack'n his "buddy" off and that is my definition of great porn.

by Anonymousreply 6607/03/2013

yawns...

by Anonymousreply 6707/05/2013

[quote]Most gay porn is so vanilla.

Because most gay men prefer vanilla.

by Anonymousreply 6807/05/2013

Like some others, I like watching some straight porn. Hot guys, who enjoy kissing...not enough kissing in lots of gay porn. Plus there needs to be some gay parody porn. Ever seen some of the straight stuff...pretty silly, but kinda fun.

by Anonymousreply 6907/05/2013

I've just never gotten the gay4pay thing, I want to watch two guys who are really into each other have sex not some guy who needs a pill or an injection to get hard who looks bored and/or uncomfortable through the whole thing. Is there a list somewhere of guys who do gay porn who identify as straight so I can avoid their videos?

by Anonymousreply 7007/05/2013

"I'm not like other gay people" is a mindset among many gay people. Many gay people live life under the impression that they somehow will be looked at differently from heterosexuals compared to other gay people. Their focus is on what heterosexuals think, therefore they want to get away from anything typically gay. For some two men having sex is too far, it's too gay.

There is a problem with heterosexual and heterosexual-pretending gay porn stars ruining videos. I love seeing men kiss. There is a lack of passionate kissing in gay porn. R69 There is a lack of kissing in straight porn. You're more likely to see a guy put his hand around a woman's throat than kiss her.

by Anonymousreply 7107/05/2013

OP is nuts. The women in straight porn are always fake screaming. It gets annoying. Maybe you think gay porn is boring because it is what you are used to? Straight porn/sex is a taboo/strange thing.

by Anonymousreply 7207/05/2013

OP writes,

[quote]Most gay porn is so vanilla? Lousy camera angles, boring models, no sensuality. The worst is when it's 20 minutes of passionless banging and asshole closeups.

It's because there is no artistic value to much of what turns you off. If there was, there would be an art to the productions. There would be story. The porn would be provocative and exciting. And it would get you off.

by Anonymousreply 7307/06/2013

R72 writes,

[quote]Straight porn/sex is a taboo/strange thing.

I always loved the [italic]Taboo[/italic] straight-porn films. (Some more than others.) Just nasty -- in the mind -- to have consensual and blissful incest sex.

I haven't seen anything in gay porn, and it doesn't have to be twin brothers (like the Peters), which does a good job with the shameful material. That art work which told the story about a father and son getting to know each other came close.

by Anonymousreply 7407/06/2013

Why do straight male porn stars usually enjoy sex more than gay porn stars?

by Anonymousreply 7507/06/2013

I wonder if drugs are a big issue in straight porn like they say it is in gay porn?

by Anonymousreply 7607/06/2013

Drugs are an issue everywhere.

by Anonymousreply 7707/06/2013

It is hard to know r70 because a lot of gay porn studios try to get their guys to say they are straight. Basically if it looks they are really into it...they probably are. You can't have hot sex you clearly enjoyed on camera with another guy and then tell me you are straight, if so the concept of being straight has no meaning. Part of the issue is a lot of those guys also lie to themselves.

by Anonymousreply 7807/06/2013

This is the hottest thing on tumblr right now.

Anyone know where this came from?

Hot Hot Hot!

by Anonymousreply 7907/06/2013

I have never understood the appeal of porn. It seems fairly ridiculous to me. The first time I saw it, when a friend showed me videos his parents had, it just seemed ludicrous and funny. I laughed. There was nothing faintly sexy about it. To this day, I just don't get it.

by Anonymousreply 8007/14/2013

Because it is not real. My sex partners don't look like that nor do I want them to. I dislike porn so much I prefer the most ordinary of people having sex. If a guy has a pudge or titties or something physical that makes him less than perfect can make be hot.

by Anonymousreply 8107/14/2013

Interesting question, OP. Thankfully, however, for you, there are thousands upon thousands of gay porn videos to choose from and I'm sure you can find a few things that get you hard and get you off.

Which brings up the question: is porn like a nuclear arsenal? How much porn does the world need?

by Anonymousreply 8207/14/2013

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by Anonymousreply 8407/17/2014

Porn generally has gotten so boring. Perhaps we have seen too much of it? I was moving and found and old stash of porn, ie. some Matt Sterling classics, some old Jon Dough straight films, etc. They were fun to watch but they were not a turn on any more.

My biggest pet peeve in porn is that oral sex is reduced to just being foreplay. Blow jobs are an art. Getting a guy off with a mouth, watching his face, watching the cocksucker enjoy the intensity of it all! That's magic.

A few slurps, put on the rubber, close-ups of a cock in and out of a butt....that's just a big old snore.

by Anonymousreply 8508/19/2014

I guess chubby people like watching other chubby people have sex?

by Anonymousreply 8608/19/2014

Matthew Rush doing the ALS Challenge!

by Anonymousreply 8708/19/2014

Porns should be done like soap opras. Hard core but a believable story line, maybe romance.

by Anonymousreply 8808/19/2014

Little minds don't need a lot of variety and stimulation.

by Anonymousreply 8908/19/2014

Just a side note:

Believe it or not, a few female friends of mine are turned on and into gay porn.

About half of them are willing to pay for gay porn.

by Anonymousreply 9008/19/2014

What R5 and R6 said. Also, R14, point 9.

by Anonymousreply 9108/19/2014

Much prefer straight porn. These days the guys are much hotter, much more diverse in body and appearance, the dicks seem to always be huge, the sex has a certain abandon that gay porn doesn't have, and the guys seem really into it. The guys in straight porn have definitely become hotter though.

by Anonymousreply 9208/19/2014

I prefer straight porn because I hate homosexuals and the act of homosexuality of unnatural and disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 9308/19/2014

Everything that is so damn casual is boring sooner or later...

I know, it sucks.

by Anonymousreply 9408/19/2014

That's funny, R93. I always think those people are that way because they are young.

by Anonymousreply 9508/19/2014

Less than 1% of this site is young, R95. The majority are 40 and older.

by Anonymousreply 9608/19/2014

..and they are still in the closet, R95. 1/4 are closeted. If that tells you anything.

by Anonymousreply 9708/19/2014

Wow. Matthew Rush has debulked!

by Anonymousreply 9808/19/2014

Oral cumshots are now hot? Gosh, it was only a few days ago someone was bitching that the only thing you see in gay pron was oral cumshots and why couldn't they show some anal cumshots...

Studio porn is definitely formulaic, but that is how it is. The "stars" who go to the major porn studios (or studio, as it is quickly becoming) are of a specific type as defined by what the studio head thinks will sell. Or, orange steroided muscle queens covered in tattoos, who, due to years of drug abuse, can't get hard without "enhancements."

There's plenty of good stuff out there. Maybe if viewers would *buy* some of the good stuff, more of it would be made.

by Anonymousreply 9908/19/2014

The only thing that interests me lately is live cam porn such as Cam4 and Chaturbate. When I look at a recorded porn with porn actors it just makes me bored. Sometimes the cam sites have "porn star" performers but they leave me with the same feeling as recorded porn. The best ones are the horny guys who just love being watched especially the str8 ones.There are many hot East European guys that are incredibly hot, they usually turn into cam whores and get that same blank look as typical "porn stars" though.

by Anonymousreply 10008/19/2014

[quote]The only thing that interests me lately is live cam porn such as Cam4 and Chaturbate.

Unless the guy is exceptionally hot, I can't be bothered with these idiots who just sit there begging for tokens. And even when a guy is exceptional, there's no guarantee he knows how to play to an audience. Overall, Chaturbate and its ilk are more boring than any porn could be.

by Anonymousreply 10108/19/2014

Not enough good directing.

by Anonymousreply 10208/25/2014

Is Payton of Sean Cody gonna spear a dude?

by Anonymousreply 10308/28/2014

Maybe because most gay porn is gay for pay, made for self hating closet cases?! The gay for pay porn is so mechanical and robot-like, they're just "there", they're not enjoying themselves at all. You can tell they're faking it. Gay porn made by gay men however is totally different, it's hot and the guys actually look into it too.

by Anonymousreply 10408/28/2014

too much of the same thing

by Anonymousreply 10508/28/2014

I just watched the last season of Torchwood.

There is a scene where JB seduces his BF for the first time. It is so erotic. I couldn't believe how it was getting me worked up.

It's like that hipster vid ....

by Anonymousreply 10608/28/2014

Porn, in my opinion, should be a detailed fantasy. Porn is film. Films tell a narrative. The problem is that too much porn is just about basic sex, as though written for a teenager. Sometimes when I watch porn all I can think is wow when I was 15 or 16 this stuff would be enough to make me come. But as an adult, with experience, I know how the act can go. I am paying for the fantasy. A storyline, with expressive, believable dialogue and chemistry would make an average porn film better. If there was a seduction, an anticipation, a dance between the two men before they start doing it. Here's a thought: instead of focusing on the suck and fuck let them go by quickly. Old gay porn spent less time on the suck and fuck. Show me how to turn on a man without his cock in a mouth or ass. You get some youngster in bed and he thinks it should be like a porn movie. And that is because they are meant for quick jack offs. But why spend 20 minutes trying to get worked up over boring sex. A good porn scene should make me want to come within the first few minutes because I am so turned on by the possibilities. White, over muscled bodies with dim minds and a paycheck on the brain is like watching paint dry. I would rather see my relatives fuck- and they are one ugly bunch of people.

Drunk sex, vampire sex, drunken frat boy vampire sex, hypnosis, library sex, sex on a boat, sex at a wedding, sex at a prom, sex with a neighbor, sex with with your first love-after you have grown up, sex in a church pew, sex between country performers, sex on a bus, politicians having sex, spy sex, sex from another time period: 16th century, the Civil War, the Roaring 20's, WWll sex at Guadalcanal, sex in suburban 50's America. So many different ways to film porn and add a detail of exoticism as well. I would pay $100.00 a month if the porn I was watching were that good. At my age,49, porn is like Geritol.

by Anonymousreply 10708/28/2014

Too much ass. Not enough face. And when they do show face, a lot of the guys are ugly.

by Anonymousreply 10808/28/2014

Straight porn features guys who might, you know, actually exist, not items ordered from the Ken Doll factory.

by Anonymousreply 10908/28/2014

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by Anonymousreply 11009/18/2014

lack of genuine, mainstream masculinity and athleticism. you can't cast a feminine twerking dude into the role of a fantasy football player or military dude. it doesn't work.

by Anonymousreply 11109/18/2014

Do you guys know of any porn made by and for gay men? Because I'd watch that. I don't like gay for pay porn. It's so not sexy. You can tell the guys don't enjoy it at all.

by Anonymousreply 11209/18/2014

dull

by Anonymousreply 11309/23/2014

Speaking just of Sean Cody -- too much smiling. What the fuck is up with that? The guys are so bland and boring, smiling at each other the whole time like they're robots. Not sexy, not to me. The fact that they're barebacking and breeding each other doesn't even matter -- still so unsexy.

Sketchy Sex is sort of hot, because there's a real life sleaziness to it that doesn't reach Treasure Island Media-levels of diseased depravity. FraternityX actors are way too annoying and immature to be sexy, although it wasn't always as bad as it is now. Michael Gilbert, are you reading this?

ChaosMen is actually the hottest of the no-frills reality porn sites. Broke Straight Boys needs hotter boys.

The best porn is indeed that which features a storyline with seduction. But those videos tend to feature condoms. Blah.

by Anonymousreply 11409/23/2014

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by Anonymousreply 11510/27/2014

aLL the models look the same to me

by Anonymousreply 11610/27/2014

R116 writes,

[quote]All the models look the same to me.

Especially the case at BelAmi.

by Anonymousreply 11710/27/2014

r14 is correct in everything. Fix all that and gay porn will be awesome.

by Anonymousreply 11810/27/2014

Too many tatts and gross kink.

by Anonymousreply 11912/01/2014

Can anyone tell me who's the top in this video? Please.

by Anonymousreply 12001/02/2015

Simple answer OP, because the industry and every gay porn model is obsessed with straight sex & muff.

by Anonymousreply 12101/02/2015

I don't like SeanCody at all. I don't like the "We're just fun-lovin' bros" vibe--they try to promote their models (who are mostly hairless) as all heterosexual college boys. Same with CorbinFisher--it really bugs me CorbinFisher stopped making films with Dawson because he got too old and especially too muscular (!!).

The best pay-sites for me (though I don;t pay for their videos when they're so easy to get elsewhere) are MenatPlay (although I get bored with the suits and it takes them forever to take them off, the actors and the sex are pretty hot) and Men over 30. I like the guys for men.com but the sex is often very tepid.

Falcon has been all but dead for years, but it's finally got some energy now it's merged with Raging Stallion. Titan's biggest problem is that the studio head is obsessed with the same five actors he shows over and over and over and over.

HotHouse and Kristen Bjorn have had the most consistent quality over the years, although KB has had some very skinny models lately.

by Anonymousreply 12201/02/2015

I don't like studios & sites like Dark Valley and Treasure Island -- it's not that the raunch bothers me but they get such unattractive performers.

by Anonymousreply 12301/02/2015

Doesn't get much hotter than this... Not boring, for sure.

by Anonymousreply 12401/02/2015

I hate studios with raunch, feminine dudes, and kink. I like studios with 100 percent masculine Alpha males who seem like college football players, jocks, and frat boys. I like studios that feature hot jock dude bros being bros.

by Anonymousreply 12501/03/2015

Bareback was supposed to bring the sexy back to gay porn, but now it is as bland as before this trend began. There needs to be more diversity of looks and I'm not talking just about ethnicity or age.

It's all hipster hair, tatted guys...and some of the tats are so bad they are actually unsettling. No romantic kissing, the really gross spit-rim-spit technique, the flicking of tongues instead of kissing which is more fitting for lesbian porn are more of what is wrong.

I think that a major cause for the decline is the proliferation of porn stars with blogs, Twittter accounts and constant appearances on Vine. When they let their real thoughts fly on issues like important things like their racial preferences or letting us into their domestic disputes, the ugly eyes behind the pretty smiles burn through.

by Anonymousreply 12601/03/2015

I like the old vintage stuff that actually told a story like The Rivermen.

by Anonymousreply 12701/03/2015

No hot dudes

by Anonymousreply 12801/27/2015

Hot

by Anonymousreply 12902/20/2015

v

by Anonymousreply 13003/02/2015
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