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Tyler Perry's "The Haves and the Have Nots"

Tyler's new soap about a dysfunctional wealthy family is set to premiere on OWN on May 28. The cast includes John Schneider as the wealthy family patriarch and Aaron O'Connell (the hot guy from those Liquid Plumr commercials) as his alcoholic son.

by Anonymousreply 15004/12/2015

Is this a sitcom or a serious soap?

by Anonymousreply 205/04/2013

That's actually Crystal Fox, probably best known for her role on the show "In the Heat of the Night". The cast bio on OWN says she's Nina Simone's niece.

by Anonymousreply 305/04/2013

[quote]Is this a sitcom or a serious soap?

It's an hour-long soap. John Schneider's character is a judge, and he's having an affair with Crystal Fox's character's daughter.

by Anonymousreply 405/04/2013

Who is Tika Sumpter who played Layla on the Dorian Lord Programme.

by Anonymousreply 505/04/2013

Tika is the one playing the maid's daughter having the affair with John's character. She was on Gossip Girl, One Life to Live and The Game.

by Anonymousreply 605/04/2013

Good show!

by Anonymousreply 706/18/2013

This is John Schneider from the Dukes of Hazzard and that Superman show? Isn't he a homophobe? Good thing Tyler's deeply closeted.

by Anonymousreply 806/18/2013

How are ratings?

by Anonymousreply 906/19/2013

Record ratings but the LA Times blasted it a few days ago calling it a minstrel show and several African American scholars saying Oprah was blinded by ratings and put a show on that is contrary to her message of empowerment.

by Anonymousreply 1006/19/2013

All Tyler Perry shows are viewed by critics as "minstrel shows" -- but audiences flock to them nonetheless. Oprah knew exactly what she was getting into, she's very close with Perry.

by Anonymousreply 1106/19/2013

I watched some of THatHN last night.

It's definitely a soap, but it really felt like an old-school, pre Luke and Laura show.

The pace was very slow and the plots felt quite ordinary.

Is it on nightly or is it a weekly?

If it's a weekly I think it will need to pick up the pace of the plotting.

Oh, some of the acting was atrocious. I couldn't tell if it was the actors fault or just bad direction and then editing.

by Anonymousreply 1206/19/2013

How the hell did Miss Piggy get Bo Duke to marry her???

by Anonymousreply 1306/19/2013

Worst piece of shit I've seen in a long time.

by Anonymousreply 1406/19/2013

Hanna is so damn sanctimonious. Benny is a lil' slow. He couldn't see the resemblance between himself and Mr. Watson?

by Anonymousreply 1507/03/2013

OMG, Peter Parros is in this! In addition to having an awesome body, he is a giant sweetheart.

by Anonymousreply 1607/03/2013

I recorded the first episode as a joke.

It is badly written, directed and acted, and looks phenomenally cheap.

The stories are hideous and the clothing is stupid.

And yet I just keep watching, every damn episode.

by Anonymousreply 1707/03/2013

Peter Parros has the squarest jaw I have ever seen.

by Anonymousreply 1807/03/2013

His shitty show "Love Thy Neighbor" is just as awful. Bad acting, bad writing, and not funny whatsoever.

by Anonymousreply 2007/03/2013

R19, I agree with what you say, but there's no excuse for "mind bottling."

Oh dear.

by Anonymousreply 2107/03/2013

What's going on with the gay dude storyline?

by Anonymousreply 2207/22/2013

The cinematography is horrible but the show is great. Candace is horrid. Wyatt is hot. Jeffery finally confessed his love for Wyatt. Finally a watchable TP program

by Anonymousreply 2309/11/2013

Coming back for a second season in January. Filming starts in October.

We've been told two of the leads won't be back - we're guessing the gay son (his parents will ship him off somewhere to straighten him out) and either the suicidal daughter or the nympho Latin maid.

We'll keep you posted...

by Anonymousreply 2409/11/2013

The mother was so cruel when her son came out in the final episode

It's been a very long time since I've heard that kind of bigotry. She was crushing him emotionally. I wanted him to punch her. She was beyond a cunt

by Anonymousreply 2509/11/2013

Thinking Benny won't be back ( how much more can happen to him?) & Catherine. Candace would slid in her shoes. Thinking the other maid has some dirt on Jim so she'll stick around. Please don't let it best Wyatt. Super hot. Probably going to the slammer though

by Anonymousreply 2609/15/2013

R27, I like Veronica as well. That scene with Jeffery was so brutal that I cried. I loved that David tried to talk Veronica down and ultimately was there for Jeffery. I also love that he knew Jeffery was gay all along and tried to prepare Veronica for Jeffery's coming out. I do believe that in the end she will support Jeffery but that is probably going to be a long drama filled road.

by Anonymousreply 2809/15/2013

[quote]I think Aaron O'Connell who plays Wyatt is HOT but the character doesn't seem long for the show

As long as he is smart and keeps giving up his body for Perry to play with he will keep his job.

by Anonymousreply 2909/15/2013

Yeah, I figured that as well r29. Oooh! To think someone that fine would have to fuck around with Tyler. He looks better dressed as Madea.

by Anonymousreply 3009/15/2013

The new episode is on and it's GOOOOODDD!

by Anonymousreply 3101/07/2014

So Benny is dead. Will Celine be fired? And will recent real-life orphan John Schneider hook up with that campaign manager, or will sassy Veronica get rid of her first?

And will we see gay Geoffrey hook up for real sometime soon??

by Anonymousreply 3201/27/2014

So is Benny dead?

by Anonymousreply 3302/25/2014

Tyler likes to hire hot guys he sees in commercials. hmmmmmmmmmm

by Anonymousreply 3402/25/2014

The new season started. It's a very attractive cast but the writing and direction are horrible. The plotting is laughable.

Is anyone watching? How does Tyler Perry get away with this? Is this soap going anywhere?

And what's with the tacky wigs?

by Anonymousreply 3501/07/2015

My mom and aunt love watching this show. (Then again they are Tyler Perry's target demographic: black, female and elderly.) I refuse to waste a single motherfucking dime on Tyler Perry's bullshit, so of course I've never watched the show entirely. What I did see was standard Tyler Perry fare: cliched melodrama, over-the-top acting, poor staging, ugly wardrobe, and one-dimensional characterizations. He's been in the business long enough now where there should be some improvement in those areas; there's no excuse for producing poor material like this.

But I guess he'll never grow as a writer-director when his demographic continues to support his garbage.

by Anonymousreply 3701/07/2015

I hate watch this shit every season. The acting and storylines are so over the top, and the sets so cheap it's hard to belive this is on even a cable network. The guys are hot, and I guess I want to see what will happen next so I'm hooked.

by Anonymousreply 3801/07/2015

[quote] Worst piece of shit I've seen in a long time.

[quote] It is badly written, directed and acted, and looks phenomenally cheap.

[quote] Tyler Perry has to be the most untalented black person in the history of hollywood to get so many opportunities.

Agreed. Agreed. Agreed.

Tyler Perry is a big old stupid queen who got lucky, and then ran back into the closet.

Everything he puts out is absolute shit.

And every guy he auditions is ridiculously hot. No doubt, they pay the price by having to have some sort of inappropriate relationship with him, ala Bryan Singer.

It truly does boggle the mind how someone so untalented, can become so successful. But then again, there's Oprah Winfrey, so...

by Anonymousreply 3901/07/2015

He sure does cast hot dudes in his stuff

by Anonymousreply 4001/07/2015

And makeup and wardrobe has a stock of really ugly cheap wigs.

by Anonymousreply 4101/09/2015

The acting on this show is horrendous. BO Duke looks like Lawrence Oliver compared to the rest of the cast.

by Anonymousreply 4201/09/2015


by Anonymousreply 4301/11/2015

any same-sex male love scenes yet?

by Anonymousreply 4401/12/2015

[quote] any same-sex male love scenes yet?

Only in my office, aka "auditioning room."


And that stands for Tyler Perry, not TOILET PAPER, like you would think.


by Anonymousreply 4501/12/2015

I detest Tyler Perry. He's a fraud and everything he makes is junk. I wouldn't watch anything he created if you gave me ten thousand dollars. I'm not kidding.

by Anonymousreply 4601/12/2015

I watched last night. It has gotten worse. Seeing Peter Parros' shirtless chest was very very nice. What a handsome man!

by Anonymousreply 4701/14/2015

Parros is a boy-man. He is 54, but still looks boyish.

by Anonymousreply 4801/14/2015

I'm not ashamed to admit I watch. It's trashy fun and not much is on Tuesday nights.

The Veronica character is so heinous I don't know why her husband stays faithful to her. Plus, she is so cruel to her gay son.

I'm hoping someone takes that cunt down.

by Anonymousreply 4901/14/2015

R49 Shall we also mention her ugly wardrobe and wigs?

by Anonymousreply 5001/14/2015

So the son mauls the Latina maid and pins her to the sofa. Pressing his crotch against her, he asks her "Feel that?". She responds: "It feels like a cigarette lighter!".

Madea writes again!

by Anonymousreply 5101/22/2015

Didn't the maid say "It feels like a lipstick" ?

'cause the son answered "don't you want me to rub it on your lips?"

And Veronica the hater is apparently the most popular character on the show in the black community....

by Anonymousreply 5201/25/2015

This show is awful, but high camp.

That Veronica is one fierce cunt! Blackmailing her son to stop being gay? Beating the shit out of her husband's white girlfriend? Being condescending to Candace?

by Anonymousreply 5301/25/2015

Candace is fairly popular as well. I think some folks admire that Veronica fierce while noting that she is despicable to her son.

by Anonymousreply 5401/25/2015

When will this show in Canada?!

by Anonymousreply 5501/25/2015

You can tell the wardrobe budget was cut this season except for the S & M bondage group scene

by Anonymousreply 5601/25/2015

For someone who is supposed to be very wealthy, Veronica certainly looks very cheap. No taste at all and her wigs are soooooooooooooooo tacky.

Peter Parros should get naked more often, as should Jeffrey and the addict son. Benny has potential too.

by Anonymousreply 5701/26/2015

Jeffrey and Wyatt need to fuck. Jeff and Benny's kiss was quite chaste.

Veronica has fans? She is a nasty bitch. Nothing remotely likeable about her.

by Anonymousreply 5801/26/2015

Veronica is popular because she calls out sluts like Candice and that man stealing white woman. You know women were cheering when she attacked that white hussy last week. I can't belive I watch this crap. šŸ˜„

by Anonymousreply 5901/26/2015

apparently the title refers to acting ability. I am waiting for a HAVE to show up.

by Anonymousreply 6001/26/2015

So, only women watch this show?

by Anonymousreply 6101/26/2015

getting more and more ridiculous (even for a soap) and more and more tiresome...

only ONLY reason to watch is for hunky screwed up in the head wyatt played by aaron o'connell

what the heck happened to the homoerotic storyline between him and jeffrey? i thought for sure by now in season 3 wyatt would realize his hangups and addictions are caused by his repressed homosexuality or bisexuality (wasn't that hinted at in season 1?) every episode in season 1 they had these 2 together and now? nothing.....

i thought for sure by now jeffrey would have been able to wickedly and cunningly seduce wyatt! as it is now, wyatt is back to drinking and not much of a storyline at all and jeffrey still fighting with nutjob mommy and not sure what he wants or who he wants... zzzzzz!

by Anonymousreply 6201/26/2015

Anyone else think that last night's episode hit a new low? It made no sense whatsoever.

That girl shot herself and has been lying in that bed unnoticed while everyone else around her carried on their little dramas?

by Anonymousreply 6301/28/2015

Yeah besides the near affair this show has not made any sense. No one heard the gun shot? or even checked on Amanda? After beating a murder wrap he gets an attitude? Pretty easy when you are living in a huge mansion. Veronica is the only thing that is keeping me tuned. Her scenes are always good. Quincy is hot. Miss Holy Roly Hannah almost having sex was a hoot

by Anonymousreply 6401/28/2015

robert gant and the football player from qaf are on friends now.and the football player is wearing the same shirt he wore on qaf

by Anonymousreply 6501/28/2015

R64 So Wyatt beats the murder charge, right after he was so overtaken with guilt that he visited the little girl's grave.

The last four episodes of this show have covered about 12 hours. The timeline is impossible:

1) Katherine has her little soiree 2) Amanda shows up with Quincy who ruins the evening, outs Jim as Candace's lover 3) Jim gets abducted 4) Hannah overhears her cop friend betraying her 5) Hannah has a party for Benny 6) Candace slips away to torture Jim 7) Amanda plays with the gun and shoots herself 8) Wyatt finds Jim's phone and discovers he has a brother 9) The affair with the publicist doesn't happen. Veronica catches them anyway. Veronica goes to Jeffrey's and confronts him and Candace. She then calls Quincy and tells him to come take care of Candace. 10) Candace has her S&M orgy, takes pictures to blackmail Jim 11) Wyatt accosts the maid and asks about his brother 12) Everyone gets up wide-eyed and refreshed for a press conference....except maybe for Amanda who has a gunshot wound. She's so self-indulgent! Oh!!! And Hannah did not get laid!

by Anonymousreply 6601/28/2015

[R66] i love you :)

you seriously just posted the ultimate cliffnotes of the current season so far. You are so right about the timing , even for Soap time ... this is just too much.

by Anonymousreply 6701/29/2015

R67 As a bonus may I add that during the 12 hours Veronica either got her weave tightened or got outfitted with a new wig, and Hannah invested in a brand new wig, which is very becoming. Quincy never did go to rough Candace up, but Jeffrey did mistake Benny for his mystery date sent by Candace and kissed him when he saw him in the doorway. Meanwhile, Amanda is dealing with that whole gunshot thing and continues to be unnoticed until Hannah tries to wake her for Jim's press confidence and finds her wounded with blood everywhere. Oh,the mess!

by Anonymousreply 6801/29/2015

Wyatt heard the gunshot. It woke him up and sent him on his discovery of Jim's treachery.

by Anonymousreply 6901/29/2015

I'd watch it just for John Schneider. It's amazing how that guy has kept his looks for the last 3 decades plus.

by Anonymousreply 7001/29/2015

I just want Jeffrey and Wyatt to get it on. Veronica is a sickening harpy!

by Anonymousreply 7101/30/2015

i know get jeffrey to seduce clueless and messed up hunky wyatt already (see my post 62!)

by Anonymousreply 7201/30/2015

Not that i want to watch it, but Veronica and Candace in the sack would be veryu hot.

I think that sex between Jeffrey and Wyatt would be very dull. Jeffrey would want kisses and snuggles when he should be aggressively topping Wyatt. That's what Wyatt needs!

by Anonymousreply 7301/30/2015

Wyatt needs to be topped by his hot Daddy, John Schneider.

Let Jeffrey do the licking up afterward....

by Anonymousreply 7401/31/2015

Have they ever explained how Veronica knows Quincy ?

She came home last season and he was in her bed. He has made passes at her.

Why didn't she have him arrested ?

Now she's in cahoots with him to rough up Candace ?

I'm confused by this.

by Anonymousreply 7501/31/2015

Veronica used her keen legal skills and political connections to get Quincy released from prison. She is his angel. She did it to get Candace.

by Anonymousreply 7601/31/2015

I can understand why people think Veronica is so fierce. Yes she's a horrendous homophobe the way she treats her son and she will get hers. But the way she handles Quincy is kinda awesome. Instead of screaming or giving in, when Quincy is all over her she calls out his family and says she'll have them killed. Damn! She sent Quincy to rough up Jeffrey. Jeffrey should open the door and kiss him like he did Benny. Then it's on!

by Anonymousreply 7702/01/2015

Tyler Perry clearly has a type--muscular and hunky. Wyatt, Benny and Jeffrey are like the vanilla, butterscotch and chocolate versions of the same thing. Not one of them could act his way out of a paper bag, but Jeffrey is a good crier and Benny's acting has improved by leaps and bounds since season one, but Wyatt is still pretty bad. A threesome with them would set the TV screen ablaze.

by Anonymousreply 7802/01/2015

[quote]Benny has potential too.

Potential? He's hot as hell!

by Anonymousreply 7902/01/2015

Wow r78 you're so right. And to be more precise, he likes hunky light skinned men who work blue collar jobs. Benny is a tow truck driver. In one of his movies Shemar Moore was a factory worker (really?) Boris Kojoe played a bus driver (really?) He's definitely projecting.

by Anonymousreply 8002/01/2015

Peter Parros is hotter than any of them!

by Anonymousreply 8102/01/2015

Can't get past the title. Should be "The Haves And The Haves Not"

by Anonymousreply 8202/02/2015

Benny's new trucker friend is another hot man who can't act. it must be good being Tyler Perry!

by Anonymousreply 8302/03/2015

Whew it was wall to wall hotties tonight. Yeah Benny's friend was hot. The Kiss! Girlfriend still seems clueless even after the kiss and Landon telling her Jeffery is gay. Looks like the outing continues next week

by Anonymousreply 8402/04/2015

And what about Verrronica! at that press conference.

She may be a narrow-minded manipulative homophobic see-you-next-Tuesday, but she is FIERCE.

by Anonymousreply 8502/04/2015

Yeah that was kinda fierce. And what about Candace after extorting all that money going on a hood shopping spree? Honey, 7 mil don't go as far as you think......

by Anonymousreply 8602/04/2015

benny's new trucker friend?! wheww! didn't know tow truck men were male model drop dead gorgeous and built! laugh! let's hope we see much more of him (literally!)...

wyatt and jeffrey? from the previews for next week, we see jeffrey calmly and even sensously patting wyatt's head in their hug consoling him....

BUT then you see i presume what will happen later in the same episode, wyatt being a jerk to jeffrey's clueless (maybe she just doesn't want to believe it because she really does like jeffrey) girlfriend saying "did he tell you he's in love with me?" with jeffrey telling him to hush hush... WHY would wyatt do that to jeffrey, being a jerk to him YET AGAIN... jeffrey is the only friend that wyatt has in the entire world! minus the wanting him part.....

i like to think this is just another dumb not thinking comment on wyatt's part? but i'm also thinking (and hoping!) that this is wyatt's defense mechanism, because he that is wyatt DOES have feelings for jeffrey!

please make wyatt closeted and eventually bi!i'm hoping jeffrey picks up on this and uses it to seduce wyatt or wyatt himself realizes it and it's him who does the chasing! either way, TYLER PERRY MAKE IT HAPPEN!

by Anonymousreply 8702/04/2015

R82 = the spirit of datalounge

by Anonymousreply 8802/04/2015

I would like the new tow truck guy hook up with the newly exploring Wyatt, become lovers and settle down. They can invite Jeffrey and his girl friend over and watch Jeffrey's head explode.

by Anonymousreply 8902/05/2015

I have to admit that the last episode was good. I am waiting for Wyatt and Jeffrey to finally get together and then Melissa drops the bomb that she is pregnant. Who would've thought that Celine would be the one to stand up to that bitch Veronica.

by Anonymousreply 9002/08/2015

Dude, you really watch this show? Seriously?

by Anonymousreply 9102/08/2015

Tyler is dropping the ball with another hottie. Jim & Celine (The housekeeper's) son. Where has he been?

by Anonymousreply 9202/09/2015

Now they need to find a replacement daughter for Jim. Please make her Candace.

by Anonymousreply 9302/09/2015

Last night was actually a better show. Mr. Perry is focusing on the plot again.

by Anonymousreply 9402/11/2015

Last night was the best episode of TH&THN.

by Anonymousreply 9502/11/2015

ITA Last night was the best show of al the seasons. Now I'm really believing Jeffrey's girlfriend is pregnant. She has that Iwill still try to keep him look. Celine is the worst maid ever.

by Anonymousreply 9602/11/2015

R96, I that Veronica paid her to get pregnant by Jeffery.

by Anonymousreply 9702/12/2015

I need Maggie to just slap the shit out of Veronica.

Maybe Wyatt will finally realize his feelings once Jeffrey reveals Veronica's blackmail.

by Anonymousreply 9802/12/2015

Let's speculate:

1) Veronica paid Melissa to screw Jeffrey and hopefully give her a grandchild 2) the daughter was murdered by her rapist 3) Quincy will be charged and convicted until the real killer is revealed 4) option 2: the daughter was killed by her half brother (the maid's son) 5) The family will have to deal with the revelation that Wyatt was the hit and run driver 6) Jeffrey will console Wyatt. They will do it and regret it.

by Anonymousreply 9902/12/2015

You can tell that Veronica is Perry's idea of the perfect woman. The woman he'd be if he weren't so convincing as Madea. She walks through the show putting everyone in check and is never checked herself.

I can't believe no one has walked off with her wig yet. She even had that brokedown convict shook. Her balls must be so big that they show through her skirt.

by Anonymousreply 10002/12/2015

Oh hell r 100: every character is probably some reflection on Tyler.

by Anonymousreply 10102/12/2015

R10 Celine put her in check several times on the last show.

by Anonymousreply 10202/12/2015

The actress who played Catherine was excellent in this week's episode.

I still want Veronica dead and buried. She is purely heinous.

I have a vague recollection from season 1 of Wyatt alluding to being sexually abused at the Summer camp he and Jeffrey went to.

Did I dream that ? I swear it happened but it's never been brought up since.

by Anonymousreply 10302/12/2015

Yeah, I don;t know what happened but everybody seems to have learned how to act all of a sudden, even the actor playing Wyatt.

by Anonymousreply 10402/12/2015

The show is entertaining, but wildly uneven and not well written.

by Anonymousreply 10502/12/2015

r103 Both Wyatt & Amanda referenced they were abused but wasn't explored

by Anonymousreply 10602/12/2015

Wyatt: "Kiss me Jeffrey!"

My word. Shall we wait until the police are gone and they have removed your dead sister's body from the blood-splattered room upstairs or do you want to do it right here right now?

by Anonymousreply 10702/18/2015


by Anonymousreply 10802/18/2015

Celine and Veronica need to do some serious scissoring.

by Anonymousreply 10902/24/2015

I was hoping Jeffrey would get a handle on Quincy but we all know he will get his head and body bashed in

Interesting subplot with Jeffrey's girlfriend. Everyone in town has told her her boyfriend is Gay including his Dad. Wonder who was that she was visiting in the hospital?

by Anonymousreply 11002/24/2015

Veronica has no soul. Every bad bitch has a redeeming quality. She has none.

Jeffrey should have kissed Wyatt in the kitchen. Enough with the teasing.

Melissa will probably turn up pregnant.

by Anonymousreply 11102/25/2015

guesses: Melissa has been paid by Veronica to give her a grandchild. Back story: David is gay too and he and Veronica went through this 25 years ago.

Quincy should have raped Jeffrey and taken his cherry.

Overall, the writing seemed tighter last night and there was an attempt at back story. Let's see where this goes.

by Anonymousreply 11202/25/2015

Veronica is truly heinous. I wish Candace, Landon and Jeffery would team up to take down. She is so rapid it will take all three plus David to do it.

by Anonymousreply 11302/25/2015

I forgot to add that so many of the young adults on that show were abused as children.

by Anonymousreply 11402/25/2015

2 or is now 3 episodes in a row with wyatt teasing jeffrey? what is going on with that? at least jeffrey responds with the "you love me wyatt" comeback! bring it on tyler perry and let's have the seducing and seduction begin.. although i wonder who will be the seducer? jeffrey or wyatt?

on a sidenote, jeffrey getting that girl pregnant? yeah, because we all know it only takes 1 time! UH HUH! yeah, like what are the odds that they do it one time and it works! oh brother...

by Anonymousreply 11502/25/2015

Veronica is hands down the meanest woman I've ever seen on TV.

I do not understand why David puts up with it. Why has he not dumped her ass? He needs to fuck the blonde and divorce the cunt.

I think the show has a new headwriter because the last 3 episodes have had a gigantic improvement.

I need Veronica to lose David, Jeffrey and Katherine. Catherine gave her a death glare after Veronica's snide remark about her parenting.

by Anonymousreply 11602/25/2015

Maybe Veronica is getting murdered.

by Anonymousreply 11702/25/2015

Kill that nasty bitch. I hope Jeffrey has finally smelled the coffee after Quincy's attack.

by Anonymousreply 11802/26/2015

Too bad the hottie at the bar didn't end up being gay. I'd love to see him and Landon get it on.

by Anonymousreply 11902/26/2015

Veronica is really something. Watching the way she tried to handle Katheryn while being confronted regarding her son's immutable gayness was gold.

by Anonymousreply 12002/26/2015

Finally, the back stories on all of these people promise to be compelling.

by Anonymousreply 12102/26/2015

Wait, this show had a black woman beating up a white woman? Shoot, take a look at the real world, Tyler. White women are beating up black MEN. Black being tougher or stronger is myth. One hay-maker, and they go right down.

by Anonymousreply 12202/26/2015

No Veronica this week means it just wasn't as compelling.

by Anonymousreply 12303/05/2015

There were a number of swipes at Veronica this week, even having people call her crazy. When a snarling ex-con murderer who has just beaten your son and dubbed him "Peaches" calls you crazy, you must have issues!

Even Katherine dissed her.

by Anonymousreply 12403/05/2015

jeffrey and wyatt need to get it on already! i want beyond horny addicted to each other, whenever and wherever forbidden secret "relations" between the two...

i actually want candace put in her place! oh sure, veronica is literally insane and evil, but candance? i'm so so tired of her being so smart, smarter then EVERYONE. oh please, so silly.

by Anonymousreply 12503/05/2015

R125 And when did Candace finish Law School? with her online prostitution how does she expect to pass the ethics evaluation for admission to the Bar? Or does she plan on screwing everyone in the process?

by Anonymousreply 12603/05/2015

no doubt candace will seduce some old old horny fart or blackmail them, you know her usual and oh so tired m.o. (because don't you know no one can resist her and she's the smartest woman on the planet! uh huh)...

this show is so so bad, but it's addictive in some aspects.. i find myself actually laughing OUT LOUD most of the time, even in the "serious" scenes.

by Anonymousreply 12703/05/2015

R127 Did you laugh out load at "Peaches"? I was hoping Quincy would want some Peach cobbler.

by Anonymousreply 12803/05/2015

Candace has not always won. Katherine cut her to shreds last season when she taunted her about being Nine. 'Ronica has also bested her on several occasions. Jim also cut her at knees last season. She is also scared of Quincy. Candace's sense of herself is not necessarily the truth. That said she is one of my favorite characters.

by Anonymousreply 13003/05/2015

This show is utter shit, but it's so watchable. The acting is all over the place, but Renee Lawless has been surprisingly good (even subtle on occasion, which is a rarity on this show) since they offed Amanda.

Every woman is some varietal of a bitch, and every guy comes from the Tyler Perry fantasy catalog. So, who cares if half of them act like they are doing community theatre? I find myself laughing constantly, and much of it unintentional. It's one of my favorite hours of the week.

by Anonymousreply 13103/06/2015

[quote]and Aaron O'Connell (the hot guy from those Liquid Plumr commercials) as his alcoholic son.

Tyler sure likes those hot guys from commercials. He hired that Irish Spring guy too.

by Anonymousreply 13203/06/2015

Well, holy crap!

DL fave Angela Robinson, who plays Veronica, has been named "Outstanding Female Actor" by the Gracie Awards in LA. She's alongside other winners (and DL faves) Julia Roberts, Maggie Gyllenhaal, Margo Martindale and Cicely Tyson!

by Anonymousreply 13303/09/2015

So Candace values one hour of her time at $25,000! Yet she gave it away to Quincy for nothing.....maybe Quincy taught her everything she knows.

What is Oscar up to?

by Anonymousreply 13403/11/2015

I don't watch the show, but I would like to see a highlight reel of Aaron O'Connell. Bro is bangin.

by Anonymousreply 13503/11/2015

this show is so bad it's funny! i literally laugh outloud throughout each episode.. and i don't think? your supposed to be...

beyond unrealistic, beyond bad acting, beyond makes no sense and so on... but i'll enjoy it for what it is and of course the eye candy...

candace's suitor last night was sexy. hopefully he has a body underneath his suit..

we saw the hunky male model tow truck friend of benny again last night..

where is jeffrey? wyatt feels like he needs to confess and because why? i'm guessing somehow both jeffrey and wyatt might be charged even arrested but the charges and arrest will not stick and they'll be let go because of some time statute or under mental duress because of what veronica did to them both (blackmail and so on!)... perhaps that is wyatt's plan? maybe he's not a muscle no brains after all?... perhaps this will be the added if not final push to see just how much wyatt cares about jeffrey in while punishing his mother, he's also freeing him and hopefully love and lust will ensue quickly and FINALLY!!!

by Anonymousreply 13603/11/2015

What i find most frustrating is that there is no respect for any kind of timeline or continuity. One person is having cocktails while another is having breakfast.

by Anonymousreply 13703/11/2015

R137! i so hear you! it's like they are making it up as they go along! do they HAVE a continuity supervisor on the set? a script supervisor? would love to be on the set during actual filming to see if it's a total fly by the seat of your pants indeed make it up as they go along chaotic circus of a set!..

by Anonymousreply 13803/11/2015

Veronica has lost her mind. Tyler must have written an out for the character by having her relapse.

by Anonymousreply 13903/17/2015

So many dropped storylines. Where is Candace's baby? Amanda's professor, Who was Jeffrey's girlfriend visiting in the hospital?

Veronica has lost it. David asked her about her past drug use. She is making his life hell.

*Spoiler* Next week looks like Jeffrey can't fight the feeling. Wonder what prompted Jim to ask Wy is he in love with Jeff?

by Anonymousreply 14003/18/2015

Maybe Jeffrey will offer to service both Wyatt and his father AT THE SAME TIME...

by Anonymousreply 14103/18/2015

I really love the Jeffery and Candace friendship. Jeffery has slowly evolved as the heart of the show as he is really the only character without guile.

by Anonymousreply 14203/18/2015

Other dropped storylines:

*Wyatt's extranged gf

* Celine's kids and husband

* Benny's father's health is it that Amanda committed suicide, Wyatt confessed to vehicular homicide,the Criers are divorcing and Veronica is nuts yet Crier still employs a PR firm to run a campaign for governor?

by Anonymousreply 14303/18/2015

Bennys father showed up two episodes ago.

I am sure we will see more of Celine's kids.

Wyatt"s gf dumped him.

The whole season seems to have played out over a week.

by Anonymousreply 14403/18/2015

I saw it last night and was rolling with laughter at Vernoica, the "Simple bicth," as her neutered husband David referred to her. She went apeshit and commenced to wreck the lounge in the hotel, throwing bottles and turning over tables and chairs. Can't wait to see her get her comeuppance.

After the show, there was an hour-long special showing Tyler Perry's preparations for a lavish party celebrating the casts of his shows. It was a celeb-filled affair, and he had a grand room built over his pool to hold the shindig. He's definitely taken a page or three from O's book.

by Anonymousreply 14503/18/2015

Any comments on the season Finale?

1) We got to see Q 2) Jeffrey grew a pair and gave the speech that TP has been saving for years 3) Veronica outdid Madea and went apeshit 4) Melissa was exposed. 5) Wyatt got a preview of Prison 101 6) Veronica put a smile on Bennie's face.

Were there any loose ends left untouched?

by Anonymousreply 14603/25/2015

I know Veronica is a deplorable character but boy do I wish I were her in the car with Benny last night.

by Anonymousreply 14703/25/2015

The finale was good.

I was so happy Jeffrey finally stood up to Veronica and made a pass at the hot campaign aid.

David is the most confounding character. Why he stays with that shrew is beyond me.

by Anonymousreply 14803/31/2015

R148 David stays with her because he thinks that they have been through a lot and have a strong bond. He underestimates how crazy she is. Peter Parros continues to be a very hot man. I was glad they got him out of a suit and into some pants that showed off his other assets. Very nice.

by Anonymousreply 14903/31/2015

Wyatt should have been standing at the door as Jeffrey and Landon were about to fuck.

by Anonymousreply 15004/12/2015
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