Ian McKellen and Derek Jacobi star as a couple. Seems like a great pairing. I love both of them.
Vicious: An Eldergay sitcom
|by Anonymous||reply 170||Last Friday at 3:29 AM|
Sirena promoted this on Johnathan Ross, show I think this will be great.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||04/11/2013|
"Golden Bois". I hope it's not just Virginia Woolf-type laying into each other all the time.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||04/11/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 3||04/11/2013|
R3, what else is there to do when you're that age and gay?
|by Anonymous||reply 4||04/11/2013|
They should have called it 'Dames'.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||04/11/2013|
I went to the filming of the Christmas special recently - it's pretty good.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||04/12/2013|
I won't miss it. I like both of them.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||04/12/2013|
I can't find a page to stream it.
Anyone have any luck?
|by Anonymous||reply 8||04/12/2013|
R7, if you like them, wouldn't you miss it a great deal?
|by Anonymous||reply 9||04/12/2013|
Isn't there a Canadian reality show called "Golden Gays" with a similar theme set in Palm Springs?
|by Anonymous||reply 10||04/12/2013|
Looks good! Originally, it was titled "Bitter Old Queens" and Joanna Lumley was going to star as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||04/12/2013|
r8 - it hasn't starting airing yet. They only just finished filming. I don't think they've announced an air date yet.
Unless you mean a page to stream ITV in general, in which case there are some - some David Tennant fansites were passing around links to stream Broadchurch.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||04/12/2013|
It was originally going to be titled "Vicious Old Queens" and when offerered to Serena he said "but I'm not old!"
|by Anonymous||reply 14||04/12/2013|
Nobody delivers a line like Sir Ian. He is perfect for a comedy.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||04/12/2013|
I thought we weren't allowed to use the E word.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||04/12/2013|
That promo does not make me want to watch it.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||04/12/2013|
Will there be any hissing? I will only watch if there's hissing.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||04/12/2013|
Nasty, self-hating, gay-insulting shit. The series was originally going to be called "Vicious Old Queens" and while the TV company realised after the initial reaction to this, that it would be a bad idea, they kept the website they'd set up - try looking for viciousoldqueens with a dotcom on the end.
We don't need this hateshit. Shame on both of them for being part of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||04/12/2013|
Is that for a heterosexual audience?
|by Anonymous||reply 20||04/12/2013|
The reviews were terrible, but I just watched the first episode and thought it was hilarious. Dammit.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||05/04/2013|
The reviews are uniformly negative.
As one observed: On first viewing I couldn’t understand why, in the year 2013, two gay men – Gary Janetti and Mark Ravenhill – would create a comedy about gay men who conform to almost every homophobic stereotype: bitchy, vain, melodramatic, lecherous, rude, sulky. The programme’s working title was Vicious Old Queens. It was as if Germaine Greer had created a sitcom called Dykes, about two feminists who hate men, wear dungarees and have no sense of humour.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||05/04/2013|
It was absolutely dreadful, first episode aired in UK here this week. Painfully unfunny and dated. Surely the knights are more hip than that in real life, didn't they realise how unfunny and stereotyped it is?
Frances de la Tour is all wrong too as their friend, she is like something out of the 70s, from that sitcom of hers then, Rising Damp.
They should have had Joanna Lumley, and they should have been more hip and up todate, like gay men are.
The young straight guy who moves in upstairs wasnt that cute either, and behaved like a simpleton, as the 2 old queens fancy him. I just found it cringeworthy and so cliched. What a missed opportunity.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||05/04/2013|
and if Frances de tour mentioned 'is Zac Efron a place or a person' once more I would have screamed! Thats the level of wit on show here.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||05/04/2013|
I don't know Mark Ravenhill, but having spent more than 10 seconds with Gary Janetti, he IS "bitchy, vain, melodramatic, lecherous, rude, sulky".
As they say, write what you know.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||05/04/2013|
I don't why McKellan signed on. He hardly needs the money or exposure.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||05/04/2013|
Wow, if that clip is any indication what the show is like, PASS. Looks dreadful.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||05/04/2013|
How disappointing that there's finally a sitcom entirely centered around gay people but the characters are thirty years out of date.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||05/04/2013|
The talent were cause for hope, but then you have to remember it's on ITV. Wit pace and sophistication were never likely to survive that channel's mission to dumb down, even if such qualities were ever there at all. So far all 'Vicious' does is not offend 'Sun' or 'Express' readers.
To be fair, BBC2's effort years ago 'Gimme Gimme Gimme' was little better. Gay writer, gay star, youthful energy, 'broad comedy', minimal laughs.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||05/04/2013|
I think it is wonderful to see two older gay out actors giving a glimpse into the world many lived in but few have seen so long ago.
It's a comedic museum piece. I would love to see an entire episode written in polari!
They are the equivalent of paleo-gays frozen in amber.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||05/04/2013|
Polari wasn't developed enough to actually a language.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||05/04/2013|
Oh, John, you are one Brit daddy I would have easily surrendered to...
|by Anonymous||reply 32||05/04/2013|
Even if the comedy goes south, it was an era that I loved -- the constant bitchery of real professionals at it. True, I'm not altogether sorry the era has gone (DL is a pallid simulacrum), and life is ever so much better today. But there was a lot to admire in a generation that kept their heads up despite the hate.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||05/04/2013|
British comedy is a mess, and has been for over a decade.
That being said, the public enjoys this show. The critics hate it, but it's still a success. Reminds me of the reaction "Gimme Gimme Gimme" received.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||05/04/2013|
thanks to youtube, I was able to watch it. and i like it lol.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||05/04/2013|
I liked the little bit that I was able to see on YouTube. Ian looks like he's having fun. Jacobi doesn't look comfortable in the role. BTW, the young guy playing Ash is also the crazy guy who pretended to help Theon in GoT, only to bring him back to the place where he was being held prisioner. He looks like a crazed Hobbit.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||05/04/2013|
Well, once the acting is dialed down down a bit it will be quite watchable.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||05/04/2013|
With the show down by over 2 million viewers for its second episode controversial art critic Brian Sewell says ITV’s new sitcom Vicious reminds him of a less progressive period for gay people.
Last month’s launch episode opened to 5.53 million viewers, but Monday’s second instalment recorded 3.52 million viewers – a fall of 2.01 million – however it was still the most watched show outside of the soaps for the evening.
Created by Will and Grace writer Gary Janetti and award-winning playwright Mark Ravenhill, Vicious sees Sir Ian McKellen and Sir Derek Jacobi play Freddie and Stuart, a bickering gay couple who have been together for 50 years.
Brian Sewell, who in 2011 complained of there being too many LGBT characters in British soaps, has taken the show to task in the London Evening Standard.
He wrote: “Vicious, ITV’s current attempt to make a comedy of camp old queens who have lived together for too long, is well-named. Vicious is precisely what it is — a spiteful parody that could not have been nastier had it been devised and written by a malevolent and recriminatory heterosexual.”
The 81-year-old critic continued: “The trouble for the scriptwriters was, of course, that ageing homosexuals who were never aspiring actors but tinkers, tailors, soldiers, sailors and even art critics do not behave like pantomime dames at an audition, are not an endless source of venomous barbs, are not constantly falling into limp-wristed attitudes and are not all too ready to huff and puff in pretended hurt.
“Ordinary old homosexuals, if they ever step into such caricature, do so as the self-mocking joke with which minorities defend themselves, and the duration is not half an hour but the time it takes to say ‘Get her,’ or some such nonsense.”
Sewell believes the show reminds him of a less progressive period for gay people and that the humour displayed by the characters disguises the pain of not being able to fully embrace being gay.
“Vicious is no more than a compilation of stale travesties reaching back half a century to the oppressive years when homosexuality was so much against the law that a man could not even ask the question of another man. In public it could only be lampooned — but the lampoon was something of a safety-valve, the in-joke of self-mockery with which all minorities camouflage their secret misery.”
Sewell adds: “Vicious, in reviving all the old exaggerated jokes, the posturing, the determination to be heard, may well revive the pernicious prejudices against the faggot and the poof so long familiar to men of my generation. Remember the three teenagers who kicked a man to death in Trafalgar Square.”
|by Anonymous||reply 38||05/07/2013|
Is there a link for episode 2?
|by Anonymous||reply 39||05/11/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 40||05/11/2013|
In case you die while I'm away, I'll say good bye now...
|by Anonymous||reply 41||05/11/2013|
r36- that "crazed hobbit" has a hot body:
|by Anonymous||reply 42||05/11/2013|
[quote}art critics...are not an endless source of venomous barbs
Oh but you are, Brian, you are. That's why the UK art establishment has as little to do with you as possible; and why you duly "huff and puff in pretended hurt" about it in your memoirs.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||05/11/2013|
where can i see episode 1
|by Anonymous||reply 44||05/11/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 45||05/11/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 46||05/11/2013|
I loved it, I was laughing the whole time.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||05/14/2013|
I liked it as well, but in my case, I actually lived that scenario. When I moved to NYC there was a older gay couple that lived in my building. The one had been involved with the theater in the 1950s and 1960s. They behaved very much like the characters in Vicious.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||05/14/2013|
I still want to fuck Jacobi...
|by Anonymous||reply 50||05/15/2013|
I love it! I hope it becomes bigger than Downton Abbey. The cast is adorable. It's camp, people.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||05/18/2013|
In some ways it suffers from the same problem as DataLounge. Pointless bitchery without wit and charm is pointless sociopathology.
It was the wit and charm that made the oppression bearable. Jacobi has a lot of it in reserve but McKellan, I hope the writers fill his well.
If they wrote it like a geriatric "Will and Jack", now that would be funny.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||05/19/2013|
Hip Hop Thursday!
|by Anonymous||reply 53||05/22/2013|
I think the series is starting to find its rhythm.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||05/22/2013|
"In some ways it suffers from the same problem as DataLounge. Pointless bitchery without wit and charm is pointless sociopathology."
And you fit right in, don't you, dear?
|by Anonymous||reply 55||05/22/2013|
[bitchy, vain, melodramatic, lecherous, rude, sulky]
Every gay guy I know is like this - minus the lecherous part.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||05/22/2013|
Episode 3 was a great improvement over the first 2.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||05/22/2013|
The Job Lot right after Vicious, is very good. Hopevthey'll do a second series, and gay actor Russell Tovey (playing straight) is so cool.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||05/23/2013|
I think Derek Jacobi is adorable in this. He looked so cute when they went to the club and he had all those buckles on his jacket. I met him a few weeks ago at the BAFTA TV awards and he was very nice.I would totally be his young friend with benefits.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||05/23/2013|
Is Gary writing about what his life with Brad will be like in five minutes?
|by Anonymous||reply 60||05/23/2013|
I liked it. It does traffic in the worst cliches, but Jacobi, McKellen, and LaTour are totally game for some reason. I think it works, but Jacobi needs to take it down a notch.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||05/23/2013|
The latest, 3rd?, episode where they go clubbing (predictably to The Shadow Lounge) is actually quite funny.
I actually met McKellen out clubbing 10 years ago, in London in 2003. Friends and I were at the Vauxhall Tavern for their Duckie night on Saturday when McKellen and a party arrived, and they were next to my party. This was at the height of LOTR mania and everybody wanted to talk to him, but I kept my distance but we found ourselves next to each other at the bar, when I mentioned that I imagined all anybody wanted to talk to him about now was Gandalf, but I had got his Gods & Monsters the previous week, so we mentioned that. Later that evening our paths crossed again at Crash club, which was just across the way, where he was watching his young friends dance..
|by Anonymous||reply 62||05/23/2013|
It is wonderful to be able to see how gays act in real life - campy, sex-crazed and bitchy! Millions of people around the world will love this, it is so funny - and it's REAL gay life! Get over it!
|by Anonymous||reply 63||05/23/2013|
r62, now that was a gay post in which you somehow make it all about you.
You must be a beautiful launderette.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||05/24/2013|
R61 I agree with you.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||05/24/2013|
[quote]It is wonderful to be able to see how gays act in real life - campy, sex-crazed and bitchy! Millions of people around the world will love this, it is so funny - and it's REAL gay life! Get over it!
Well, if Datalounge is any indication, it certainly IS how gays act in real life.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||05/24/2013|
That's what I've been thinking, R66. If ever there was a televised edition of the Datalounge, then Vicious is it.
Of course that means we should all hate it - I don't, I think it's kind of funny - because we don't really like gay people or gay friendly people much around here.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||05/24/2013|
I saw the first episode and though with that cast I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt, it was surprisingly weak. 100% of the problem was the dopey-ass script. I agree though that Sir Derek didn't seem comfortable at all and couldn't find a groove, but Sir Ian got it.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||05/24/2013|
I think the second episode was better than the first, and the third was better than the second.
Yes, it's flawed and stereotypical and broad. I like it anyway, if only to watch these three old pros chew the scenery.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||05/24/2013|
This looks like it could be great. But let's hope it's not all queeny vitriol, a little of that can go very, very long way. They are very lucky to have Frances de la Tour.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||05/24/2013|
Mebbe they could bring in Robbie Coltrane as he love interest?
|by Anonymous||reply 71||05/25/2013|
It's not the greatest, but I enjoy it and make sure that I watch it on i-player so that my watching counts. I'd like it to get another season just because.
And I love Frances de la Tour so much.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||05/25/2013|
I like it.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||05/25/2013|
The clubbing episode is S1E4.
I find Jacobi's acting stretched to the limit when McKellan's character is written as the "cute one".
All one can say about Ian is the same famous quote about W. H. Auden; someone should iron out the wrinkles on his face to see what he truly looks like.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||05/25/2013|
And if Vicious were a DL Production it would have been spelt Vichisssss.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||05/25/2013|
It's amiable if clunky, but I enjoy the top thesps giving all they've got. Wardrobe had a ball with the boys' outfits when they went clubbing - all that mothballed piss-elegance!
|by Anonymous||reply 76||05/25/2013|
Many happy returns to sir Ian.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||05/25/2013|
Is there a reliable source for all episodes? I can only find episode 1 on Youtube. And on a completely opposite note, does anyone know where I can find episodes of Sky TV's The Cafe?
|by Anonymous||reply 78||05/25/2013|
vicious mckellan jacobi S1E2
[then S1E3 and finally S1E4 and so on as they are released.]
Then click madly through all the links and EVENTUALLY you will find one that works.
That's my MO from the US.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||05/25/2013|
I'll be quick because my cat is asleep and the clicking wakes him. Go to tvmuse.eu and click on tv shows. When you find Vicious, only click the episodes without the dollar sign.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||05/25/2013|
Be careful. It's rare but some of those links may contain viruses.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||05/25/2013|
Boy, I have been watching this online. The show is a horrible, self-loathing, cruel mess. It hasn't gotten better. I can't see this coming to the USA. Somebody with an anti-gay agenda must be funding this.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||06/05/2013|
Get comfortable with torrents. Get uTorrent, install it, then go to thepiratebay.sx and search for Vicious under Video. Look at the last two columns on the right. Those two indicate how many people have the file ("seeders") and how many people are trying to download the file ("leechers"). The higher the seeder-to-leecher ratio, the faster the file will download.
Go to the episode(s) you want, then click the little magnet icon underneath it. After it finishes downloading, just click on the link in uTorrent and watch it.
The new episodes are usually posted a few hours after they air; they're always up by Tuesday morning.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||06/05/2013|
R76 I agree. Lots of stereotypes but it's a treat to watch these top thespians having a bit of fun.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||06/06/2013|
ITV sitcom Vicious, featuring Sir Ian McKellen and Derek Jacobi as an ageing gay couple, has been accused of peddling homosexual cliches that would make "John Inman look restrained".
Barry Cryer, the veteran comedy writer and performer, said Vicious had fallen into the trap of trying to be funny all the time rather than developing characters people could identify with.
"A sitcom with two old gays could be really good and moving. With two great actors in Sir Ian McKellen and Derek Jacobi it should be fantastic," Cryer writes in the latest Radio Times. "But it was insult, insult, insult every other line. You don't believe in them … it made John Inman look restrained."
Cryer, 78, whose credits include The Two Ronnies and The Morecambe & Wise Show, said Vicious was part of an era of "back-to-basic sitcoms" including Mrs Brown's Boys and The Wright Way which had forgotten the importance of "great characters trapped in a situation".
"It's a serious business writing comedy. You don't necessarily need funny lines all the time. The key is to create characters. Characters people can identify with. But right now we've gone back at least 30 years in terms of format," he added. "The great sitcom writers of the past didn't think jokes were remotely important."
Cryer said writers such as Ray Galton and Alan Simpson (Hancock's Half Hour, Steptoe and Son), Johnny Speight (Till Death Us Do Part) and Dick Clement and Ian La Frenais (Porridge) knew this instinctively and just wrote great characters. "It's straightforward stuff: character, character, character. You don't need jokes, you don't need funny lines. The humour will come because the secret to the truly funny sitcoms is simple – they are basically all about life."
|by Anonymous||reply 85||06/17/2013|
Episode 6 wasn't half bad and the Judy Dench message machine at the end was PRICELESS!
|by Anonymous||reply 86||06/22/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 87||07/02/2013|
But they did film a Christmas Special.
What is with Brit TV and their damn Christmas Specials?
|by Anonymous||reply 88||07/03/2013|
No! R87, say it's not true. It was great campy fun.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||07/03/2013|
A final decision to commission a second series hasn't been made yet but it doesn't look good.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||07/03/2013|
Broadchurch starts this Wednesday on BBC America. The first episode is already on demand.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||08/03/2013|
Renewed for season 2!
[quote]Will & Grace exec producer Gary Janetti created Vicious with playwright Mark Ravenhill. When the sitcom premiered on ITV last April, it was the highest-rated comedy launch on any UK channel in 2013. The first six-part series has not run in the U.S., but I hear negotiations are underway. The second series order was announced today at the Edinburgh TV Festival. Veteran British thesps Ian McKellen and Derek Jacobi play a constantly bickering couple who’ve lived together in a small London flat for nearly 50 years. Vicious is a Brown Eyed Boy production in association with Shine’s Kudos.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||08/28/2013|
This wast of McKellan and Jacobi premiers on PBS tonight.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||06/29/2014|
|by Anonymous||reply 94||06/29/2014|
The best part of the show is Balthazar.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||06/29/2014|
I live in Little Rock and this show is on at 1:30 am, you know, so as not to offend those dear compassionate Christians.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||06/29/2014|
I watched it tonight. So great and so funny! Ian and Derek were amazing.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||06/29/2014|
25 minutes of a single set, and mostly insults between Jacobi and McKellen, a few of which tickled the funny bone. I can't imagine this developing any further than that unless they introduce more characters and settings (like AbFab did).
|by Anonymous||reply 98||06/30/2014|
It took me a few minutes to adjust to Jacobi playing to the second (third?) balcony, but after that I found it pretty funny. McKellen is great as a hammy actor, and I loved Frances de la Tour. I can't imagine what young gays make of 25 minutes of nonstop bitchery from two old queens, but I have definitely known a few men like this.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||07/01/2014|
This show makes Gimme Gimme Gimme look like Frasier.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||07/03/2014|
This show is on par with 2 Broke Girls. All of the exceptions being made are strictly because it's gay and British.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||07/03/2014|
Very disappointed. When they said it was called Vicious, I thought this is what they meant.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||07/03/2014|
This is exactly how gays and lesbians in their 20s imagine gay men over 50. Not getting what all the hate and hysteria on this thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||07/04/2014|
Go watch it tonight on PBS.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||07/06/2014|
I thought last night's episode was funnier than the first.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||07/07/2014|
Check out the third episode tonight.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||07/13/2014|
They're like the geriatric British version of the Sweathogs.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||07/21/2014|
They're probably mining DL for script ideas as we speak.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||07/21/2014|
Frances de la Tour ("Violet") is WONDERFUL!
|by Anonymous||reply 109||07/21/2014|
The first two seemed to be dull and too obvious, too stereotypical.
But it's kind of finding its footing. They need to make the characters a smidge warmer without it being too soft.
I enjoyed the last two episodes.
"You remember our friend Violet...."
|by Anonymous||reply 110||07/21/2014|
I blew Ash. His cum tasted like pineapple
|by Anonymous||reply 111||07/21/2014|
An interesting perspective, contrary to the pearl clutchers:
|by Anonymous||reply 112||07/21/2014|
Oh for God's sake...it's all in fun, don't take it so seriously...and if you think gays young and old don't snipe like this, well then, you know nothing about gays.
Besides The great and very under rated Frances de le Tour is in it! Love her!
Stop knocking gay shows or they won't make anymore.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||07/21/2014|
Good article, r112.
de la Tour steals every scene she's in.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||07/21/2014|
[quote]This is exactly how gays and lesbians in their 20s imagine gay men over 50.
No, people (gay or otherwise) in their 20s don't think much at all about gay men over 50.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||07/22/2014|
I thought the latest episode where they went clubbing was very funny and quite sweet.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||07/22/2014|
Miss de la Tour was Fab-U-Lous when she sang the lead in Turkey-Lurkey-Time!
*not intended as a true statement
|by Anonymous||reply 117||07/22/2014|
Frances de la Tour's Twitter page. She hasn't been on it since last year, but she seems like a lovely person.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||07/22/2014|
That Slate article was interesting and thoughtful.
And I must find a way of working "And Quentin Crisp wept" into more conversations.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||07/22/2014|
R115 speaks the truth.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||07/22/2014|
The show gets better with every episode. I thought the last episode was the funniest so far.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||07/22/2014|
It really is like watching Datalounge.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||07/22/2014|
[quote]I live in Little Rock
I condole you.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||07/22/2014|
"He gets paid to give head?"
|by Anonymous||reply 124||07/22/2014|
People who like this shit and bash other shit like Two and a Half Men are hypocrites. The only difference is the accent.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||07/22/2014|
It should have been set in the 1970s or early 80s.
I love how square-headed Ash was barely noticed on this show but became an object of lust to fangurls when he appeared on Game of Thrones. He's really not a very good actor and not good looking, but appearing on a popular show automatically makes him attractive to many.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||07/22/2014|
PBS bleeps out all the dirty words, as if anyone cares.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||07/22/2014|
Watch it online with the language unfettered.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||07/23/2014|
Ian and Derek are so good. I can't believe how good they are. They make the dialogue seem like they came up with it themselves on the spot.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||07/28/2014|
r129, they did...in 1945.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||07/28/2014|
I don't know if this show wore me down or if it actually got better, but I was laughing out loud during the final two episodes. The finale was great. Glad it's coming back. Talk about a short season, though.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||08/05/2014|
I just happened to catch this tonight thought it was very very funny. It was like watching a televised version of Datalounge.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||08/31/2014|
Oh, no, R115 and R120 says that young gay boys don't think at all about older gay men. We should all kill ourselves because the young twats don't think of us!
|by Anonymous||reply 133||08/31/2014|
I do believe that Freddy does use the word cunt every now and again...
|by Anonymous||reply 134||08/31/2014|
I see miss R133 has some issues.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||09/01/2014|
Miss R125: doesn't understand sarcasm.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||09/01/2014|
Miss R136 doesn't know how to count and still very obviously has issues.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||09/01/2014|
R137 doesn't have issues. She has a subscription.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||09/01/2014|
R133 clearly does not get it.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||09/01/2014|
Turned it off after 10 min. A complete waste of de la Tour/Jacobi/McKellen talent.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||09/01/2014|
I loved the Christmas special. So hilarious yet cozy and comforting.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||12/26/2014|
[quote]Get ready for biting remarks from Freddie and Stuart when the second season of Vicious returns August 23 to PBS. And don't worry, Game of Thrones' Iwan Rheon will return as cute neighbor Ash, and we're sure Violet (Harry Potter's Frances de la Tour) won't stop flirting either.
Is it currently running on the Beeb?
|by Anonymous||reply 142||05/05/2015|
Sir Derek and Sir Ian have been named as Grand Marshalls for this year's gay pride parade in New York City! Maybe Patrick Stewart will be driving the car.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||05/05/2015|
Vicious, which returns for a second season in the UK on June 1,
|by Anonymous||reply 144||05/26/2015|
I'm amazed that Iwan Rheon does not get more attention for shifting between his role here as the sweet cute dumbcluck straight boy neighbor and the evil Ramsay on Game of Thrones.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||05/26/2015|
|by Anonymous||reply 146||05/26/2015|
R145, he has a very cute butt. It would be nice if we saw it when he was playing a likable character, such as the neighbor on Vicious.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||05/26/2015|
Ash goes a bit Ramsey on Vicious this week. Crappy, trite episode but Ash talking to the gay trainer was funny.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||06/12/2015|
It's not a first. Aaron Paul played a kind, earnest, level headed former Mormon trying to help Amanda Seyfried deal with her insane family's polygamy on Big Love while he was also appearing as druggy Jesse Pinkman on Breaking Bad.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||06/12/2015|
Aaron Paul being this guy
|by Anonymous||reply 150||06/12/2015|
While he was also being this guy
|by Anonymous||reply 151||06/12/2015|
r149, at any time did the mormon character on Big Love act like the druggie guy on Breaking Bad? Ash, the nice guy on Vicious, went a bit Ramsey-crazy on Vicious with bits of character he plays on GOT. I know plenty of nice guys on one series, bad guy on another, but this was different. That why, in a ridiculously poorly written show, it was funny. Go watch. http://www.tubeplus.is/player/2163604/Vicious/season_2/episode_2/Episode_2/
|by Anonymous||reply 152||06/12/2015|
Another problem with the Beta:
|by Anonymous||reply 153||06/12/2015|
When did Derek Jacobi officially come out?
|by Anonymous||reply 154||06/12/2015|
The gymnasium was particularly painful.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||06/24/2015|
The wedding planner blew chunks.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||06/24/2015|
I saw it and didn't find it funny. It seemed like it played on everyone stereotype that would pass for funny in the 1970s but not today. It was recorded in front of a live audience but they added a laugh track anyway. That should tell you something.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||06/24/2015|
I always enjoy the show
|by Anonymous||reply 158||06/24/2015|
[quote]he has a very cute butt. It would be nice if we saw it when he was playing a likable character, such as the neighbor on Vicious.
Not only will you see Ash's butt, you'll see his butt crack as he bends over and presents it to the TV audience. Linky may be stinky because it's from one of those streaming services with all the pop-ups.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||06/24/2015|
AdBolckPlus gets rid of all the crap on the streaming services.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||06/24/2015|
This seems really good. Won't miss it!
|by Anonymous||reply 161||06/24/2015|
The New Normal's Georgia King (the sweet-natured lead) has a turn as Ash's love interest for two episodes this season. Did not know she was British! And second-generation thespian for that matter.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||06/25/2015|
It's pantomime, it's fun, very silly and enjoyable. McKellen sort of apologized for his hammy overacting in the first season; he said the show is recorded before a live studio audience so, being the thespian he is, he plays/projects to the furthest seat, seemingly he forgot that the cameras pick up every tiny gesture. I don't know what his excuses are for this season.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||06/25/2015|
So they get married and Ms. Bixby dies in Ash's arms and it gets another THIRD SEASON. The wedding had distinctly less ham in it. The bitchiness is toned down considerably. Mebby it'll evolve into something...good.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||07/07/2015|
Crap ending to the wedding episode.
I still think Marcia Warren as Penelope is the funniest thing on the show.
And they ruined Violet's husband by showing him. Now we're stuck with the image they created rather than allowing our imaginations to run wild.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||07/07/2015|
Is this the same guy that left her chained to a bed in Argentina after he robbed her?
|by Anonymous||reply 166||07/07/2015|
No r166. This one is Jasper, the one who disappeared for 8 months.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||07/08/2015|
Why do DLers call themselves "bitter old queens"? Seriously why?
|by Anonymous||reply 168||Last Thursday at 9:03 PM|
Just finished watching the first season and I really haven't laughed out loud at a sitcom like I did in a long time. It's hard reconciling Iwan Rheon as sweet, slightly dim Ash to the psychopathic sadist Ramsay Bolton, but he makes it work.
I can imagine an American version being produced. Richard Chamberlain would be perfect as Freddie. Perhaps George Takei as Stuart. Set it in Palm Springs maybe? Logo needs to produce shows like this but I doubt Viacom will open is purse for it.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||Last Friday at 1:25 AM|
You get to his ass crack in season 2.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||Last Friday at 3:29 AM|