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The lesser known Lavender marriages in Hollywood

We all know about present day, Travolta / Preston - and in the past, Janet Gaynor/ Adrian, Mary Martin / Richard Halliday, and (allegedly) Julie Andrews/Blake Edwards . Any others not so well known ?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 24405/20/2015

does lavender marriage mean both parties are gay?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 303/16/2013

Speaking of Danny Kaye, around 40 years ago, he hit on my boyfriend while he was at Sun River.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 403/16/2013

Andre Agassi/Steffi Graf

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 703/16/2013

Danny Kaye and Nick Long, Jr were lovers in the 1930s and toured together as a comedy team. They traveled to London together and worked at the Dorchester, but Danny was a flop, they fell out and Kaye went back to the states. Nick was an incredible dancer, his parents were well-known stage actors in New York (Nick Long Sr, and Idelena Cotton) and he started in the theater when he was 6 - like Rooney. Many people know him from Broadway Melody of 1936. He died in an auto accident in 1949 when he was 43.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 1103/16/2013

My family knew George and Martha in Virginia, they actually knew Martha very well and she gave jewelry to them which we donated to a museum. The family story was that George was gay and it was a marriage of convenience - I remember hearing the story when I was a kid in the 1960's.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 1203/16/2013

Tom Cruise/anyone

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 1403/16/2013

R9- Liza Minnelli has been married four times, not three.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 1603/16/2013

Were Eva LaG and Jean Dalrymple a couple?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 1803/16/2013

Mark Gero was straight. And hot!

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 2103/16/2013

Guthrie McClintic had also been married to Estelle Winwood, who along with galpals Eva LaGallienne, Blyth Daly, and Talullah Bankhead made up "The Four Riders of the Algonquin."

Othe lavender marriages of that era:

Allah Nazimova and Charles Bryant

Beatrice Lillie and Sir Robert Peel

Laurette Taylor and J. Hartley Manners

Rudolph Valentino and Jean Ackers and Natacha Rambova

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 2403/16/2013

[quote]Merle Oberon and Art Director Cedric Gibbons

Merle and Cedric were never married. Merle's husbands were Sir Alex Korda, Lucien Ballard, Bruno Pagilai and Robert Wolders.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 2503/16/2013

Is Mark Gero still among the living?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 2603/16/2013

My mistake. MGM Art Director Cedric Gibbons was married to Dolores del Rio which is even gayer.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 2703/16/2013

I believe Mark Gero is younger than Liza. He is still alive. According to the internet, it was her longest marriage. He is generally thought not to be gay.

To be fair, Garland's longest marriage was to Sid Luft who was most certainly not gay.

I believe all their other husbands were gay, except perhaps Judy Garland's first, David Rose.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 2803/16/2013

I heard the same thing about Ludden, from someone who knew them. So is Betty's man hungry bit all an act ? Is she a 90 YO lezzie on the DL ?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 3003/16/2013

You know, I really don't know but I think it was that he was gay and she was fine with it and was just simply head over hils in love with him.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 3103/16/2013

I believe the Betty/Allen story.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 3203/16/2013

...and here I was so hoping to join this august company.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 3303/16/2013

So Julie's a lez, and Blake liked the peen ? Both , or one ?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 3403/16/2013

Phylicia Rashad always pings a little for me....and she was married to that guy from the Village People

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 3703/17/2013

"Merchant & Ivory, the independent film makers. "

Are you suggesting that every established gay relationship is a lavender marriage?

Ok. But that's not what OP is talking bout.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 3803/17/2013

No mention of me? *sulks*

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 3903/17/2013

r36, you're thinking of Charlotte Rae.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 4003/17/2013

Add Jean Stapleton and Bill Putch. When they ran the Totem Pole Playhouse in Pennsylvania he favored the male apprentices.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 4103/17/2013

Naomi Watts abd Liev Scriber

Matt Damon and his italian waitress

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 4303/18/2013

Candice Bergens first marriage

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 4403/18/2013

Watch it, David Ehrenstein may come in here!

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 4603/18/2013

I remember an episode of Password where guest Angie Dickinson ribs Allen Ludden for his fondness of Burt Bacharach.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 4703/18/2013

Blake Edwards & Julie Christie.

Mike Nichols & Diane Sawyer.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 4903/18/2013

Mention Andrew Sullivan - that will do it

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 5103/18/2013

"Add Jean Stapleton and Bill Putch. When they ran the Totem Pole Playhouse in Pennsylvania he favored the male apprentices"

Was she gay, too? Or just a beard?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 5203/18/2013

"Blake Edwards & Julie Christie."

WTF?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 5303/18/2013

Well obviously, R53, he meant Blake Edwards and Julie Newmar.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 5403/18/2013

Alas - we'll never add Ryan Semencrest and Julianne Hough to this list. Life can be cruel!

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 5503/18/2013

Julie Andrews, not Julie Christie.

My bad.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 5603/18/2013

How can somebody forget its Julie Andrews?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 5703/19/2013

Danny Kaye was straight

Peter Allen was bisexual. I think Liza talked about how great a sex life they had in an interview a while back.

Paul was straight, as is Joanne.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 5803/19/2013

LOL, r58. If anyone on earth was totally gay it was Peter Allen. Liza was off being gay herself during that marriage. Whatever she said in public (link?) was bullshit.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 5903/19/2013

If bisexual means that Peter Allen could have sex with men and women, but totally preferred men, there may be some truth in Minnelli's comments. But, I agree that it almost certainly bullshit.

So is any believe that Garland was unaware that Peter Allen was gay from the first time she met him...long before Liza was involved.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 6003/19/2013

R60, what comments? Has anybody got a quote? I remember Liza being quoted as saying that sex in that marriage was the pits - made during the marriage itself. If I find it I'll give the source.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 6203/19/2013

R61, Benjamin is Jewish.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 6303/19/2013

Travolta and Preston also have had kids together. Not sure if a man is getting his wife pregnant should be considered fake!

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 6403/19/2013

Yeah but how did she get pregnant? I am absolutely sure Travolta has never had sex with his wife.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 6503/19/2013

Joanne always pinged for me, even when I was a little kid. And then when people started saying Paul was gay, it was kind of easy to believe.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 6803/19/2013

M and her husband

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 7003/19/2013

Blake Edwards and Dana Andrews

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 7103/19/2013

Herbert Ross and Nora Kaye. I just had this discussion with a friend over Ross's later marriage to Lee Radziwell.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 7203/19/2013

Nora Kaye liked having sex with homosexuals.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 7303/19/2013

Seriously. How many of us have known gay men who have fathered kids with their wives? How many? I know two men who have done this...there must be many.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 7503/19/2013

R58 is a bit declamatory, but may be right about Kaye, who told his last girlfriend that he never had a gay experience even though Joan Plowright once said (and later denied everything about it) that Kaye ruined Olivier's and Leigh's marriage. And Kaye did have other women in his life, especially after the estrangement with Fine, and they did have a daughter. But to me it all smells like the Cary Grant Syndrome, where a bisexual man stifles his history and inclinations to preserve what he thinks should be his legacy.

As for Newman, I never heard anyone in the business talk about anything tangible as far as gay relationships. However, Redford is another story, as is Charlton Heston.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 7603/19/2013

Kaye had a whole string of boyfriends

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 7703/19/2013

Richard Nixon and Pat Nixon

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 7803/19/2013

Bob Fosse and Glen Vernon

Oscar de la Renta and his wife. His longterm bf is that Italian guy who used to run his design business.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 7903/19/2013

[quote]Bob Fosse and Glen Vernon

Now, who is this you're referring to?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 8003/19/2013

[75] You are absolutely correct. When I was just a kid living in a small town where everyone knows the color of everyone else's underwear, there was a gentleman who was married with 4 children. This was ages before IVF or even turkey baster children. He was the town's Liberace: always sporting ascots with velvet jackets and such.

At the age of 55, he and the missus divorced, and he moved to Atlanta and greener(or more lavender) pastures.

The kicker is (I am dead serious) his last name was Gaywright. Don't worry about privacy issues....he's surely long gone, and I feel safe to say his late middle aged kids don't visit DL.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 8203/19/2013

I thought Eve LeG's long time companion was actress Josephine Hutchinson

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 8303/19/2013

R79, Fosse was a notorious pussyhound. Was he bearding for Gwen? Is that why she tolerated all his womanizing?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 8403/19/2013

R61, "a wee mite bit"? What is that supposed to mean?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 8503/19/2013

Richard (John Boy) Thomas and Alma Gonzalez, the mother of his triplets.

Now married to another woman and father of another child.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 8603/19/2013

In that "MakIng Of Boys In The Band" documentary,Lawrence Luckinbill said his female agent,Janet Roberts I think her name was,was gay and so was her husband! Anyone know more about this couple?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 8903/19/2013

Naomni and Leiv are not part of a lavendar marriage...

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 9003/20/2013

I thought she was Nicole's lover? When I saw them holding hands, I believed it.

Remember when Tom and Nicole were married and someone supposedly caught them arguing like a married couple over a cell phone?

I think that was all set up so they would look like they were a normal man and wife. Probably Burt Fields had his boy Pelicano, set that up.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 9103/20/2013

When I grew up in Teaneck, N.J. two married couples lived a the two family house nearby. No one knew until many years later though legally married the real couples were male-male, female-female.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 9303/20/2013

r52, Jean was the beard. They had two kids, boy and girl.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 9403/20/2013

Diane von Furstenberg and Barry Diller - good choice, r92. Although is there anyone that doesn't know he's gay?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 9603/20/2013

R96 The gossip mill has indicated that Diller married Diane because he wants to leave his estate to her son, tax free.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 9703/20/2013

Jennifer Beals and her husbands (ex and current).

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 9812/18/2013

Sam Mendes and Kate Winslet? There have been rumors about him on here...if true, did Kate know?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 9912/18/2013

Janet Gaynor and Adrian

Janet Gaynor and Paul Gregory

Mary Martin and Ben Hagman

Mary Martin and Richard Halliday

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 10012/18/2013

I shall be snickering about r79's "Glen Vernon" for the rest of the the week.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 10112/18/2013

So, are you saying Bouncy is in a lavender marriage?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 10312/18/2013

Lilyan Tashman and Edmund Lowe.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 10512/18/2013

R58 Danny Kaye and Paul Newman were straight? No way!

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 10612/18/2013

Don't you think Nicholas Sparks (love his books!) and whomever he's married to with 5 kids? He just has gay face for days.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 10712/18/2013

Doesn't Paul Newman ping for y'all? (see photo)

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 10812/18/2013

[quote]Peter Allen was bisexual. I think Liza talked about how great a sex life they had in an interview a while back.

It was sizzling!

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 11012/18/2013

Kelly Preston and her turkey baster.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 11212/18/2013

I'm very curious about Bouncy's marriage.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 11312/18/2013

Diane von Furstenburg and Egon von Furstenburg

as for "the gossip mill [having] indicated that Diller married Diane because he wants to leave his estate to her son, tax free," this is nonsense. One cannot leave money to one's offspring, let along step-children, tax free. One can leave it to one's spouse tax free, but when it passes to the next generation, only a couple of million dollars can be left before the estate is completely taxed.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 11412/18/2013

R98, details, please!

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 11512/18/2013

[quote] Don't you think Nicholas Sparks (love his books!)

You just outed yourself as a frau, R107.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 11612/18/2013

r103 Beyonce is in a lavender marriage.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 11712/18/2013

Just to set the record straight, traditionally a lavender marriage consists of a man and woman who are both gay.

So not all the couples named so far qualify.

I'll add Kate Hepburn and the man she married.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 11812/18/2013

Luddow Smith, Katherine Hepburn's husband was straight. He remarried after he and Hepburn divorced. He and Hepburn remained friends

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 11912/18/2013

"Doesn't Paul Newman ping for y'all?"

NO.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 12012/18/2013

R58, Peter Allen was NOT bisexual. I asked him. In person. He told me all about Liza. He loved her, but as best friend/green card source only. I met his husband Greg later that week. He wasn't bi, either.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 12112/18/2013

Kate Jackson and Andrew Stevens. I never bought them as a couple. She also hung out with Liza M back then too. Makes me wonder if those two had a fling.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 12212/18/2013

Kate Jackson has aways been rumored to be gay. Wasn't she linked to the actress that played the wife on Welcome, Back Kotter? But I've never heard anything about Andrew Stevens. He doesn't strike me as gay.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 12312/18/2013

R57 The hills are alive with the sound of whatshername?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 12412/18/2013

I agree, r121.

Now, just remember what you wrote when we discuss gay female celebs. The DL gays will not accept anything but bi when it comes to them.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 12512/18/2013

Jared Padalecki/Genevieve Cortese Jensen Ackles/Danneel Harris

Both of their marriages are very hinky.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 12601/02/2014

Jimmy Fallon/Nancy Juvoven

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 12701/03/2014

Burt & Loni

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 12801/03/2014

My sister worked for Joanne Woodward for a time and they were definitely not gay. I spent some time with both of them. When they first met they had to sneak around because he was still married. Joanne is not at all like she seems - she's very funny and blunt about things like sex and embarrassed the heck out of Paul all the time, but he was used to it. They were a wonderful couple and very devoted to one another.

Also I'm not sure why bisexuality isn't really acknowledged in this thread. Rachel Kempson and Michael Redgrave weren't a lavender marriage so far as I know. He told her up front that he was bi, and she didn't care. When he was writing his autobiography, his son was helping him, and that's when he told his son. His son said if that was the case, he needed to write about it.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 12901/03/2014

"Mary Martin and Ben Hagman"

I have never heard anyone suggest that Ben Hagman was gay. As for Martin, she was sixteen or seventeen when they married, and their son, Larry, was born before she was eighteen. And the marriage did not last long.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 13001/03/2014

Both Alfred Lunt and Lynn Fontanne were family. From a blind item in a 1933 tabloid called Broadway Brevities:

"This little fact concerns two of the greatest stars of the legitimate theatre and who are supposed to be happily married. The pair, however, are as queer as a couple of bugs. He is a pansy who is conducting an affair with his male secretary, while she is a lesbian and has several girls acting as her lovers. Cute, eh?"

TCM will be showing the Lunts in "The Guardsman" this Thursday.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 13102/22/2014

A lavender marriage is one in which both parties are gay.

So most of these entries are horse shit.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 13202/22/2014

Possibly Katharine Hepburn and Spencer Tracy were in a lavender relationship but not marriage. As Spencer Tracy was a gay man this partnership could of been classed as a lavender relationship. Director George Cukor, was known to have given the pair a place, not known where it was, this place was where Katharine and Spencer had relationships with the same sex, so it was kept out of the public eye. Also Katharine Hepburn was in a marriage with Ludlow Ogden Smith, which it was said that he was gay too, apparently he took his male lover and her female lover on their honey moon, as their was four present. Don't take my word for this. In my eye, Spencer Tracy was a gay man and Katharine Hepburn was a lesbian, but it was very possible.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 13304/22/2014

A lavender relationship/marriage is when one or both parties are gay, and wish to conceal their sexual orientation, being from a person who has experienced this, yes I am gay and my partner was gay too, I accepted my self and so did my partner, but my parents had got on to me, my partner was not ready to come out fully, so it was to buy us time, when we was with friends and family we would kiss and hug, but behind the screen we were seeing our partners, our true partners, we were just friends and used this as a screen, we eventually came to the realisation that we could not live any lies, so we agreed that we would end this and live true, we stayed friends however, but our families were ok with it but thought that we did not need to go to that extent, we are not stereotypical gays, as one party is butch guy with loads of muscle and the other is very feminine. So it can happen, we were not married but it still worked for us, it helped us in so many was, but sometimes I would not recommend it, (note it is not a friend with benefits as there was no sex involved).

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 13404/22/2014

Of course the interesting thing here is that the lavender color did not prevent people from having children - often multiple children.

There's more to it than mere cover.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 13504/22/2014

Vincent Price and Coral Browne.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 13704/22/2014

There are rumors about the marriage of art director Wiard Ihnen (won Oscars for Wilson and Blood on the Sun) and costume designer Edith Head

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 13804/22/2014

Loretta Young and Jean Louis - I'm sure that was just for companionship, not to cover up anything.

Laurence Olivier is bi.

Paul and Joanne were a straight couple.

And sometimes, the woman or man doesn't care that the partner is gay or bi. And it's possible to love one another while still being attracted to the opposite sex.

Cole Porter and his wife loved one another, and she knew his situation. She left him when he started being very indiscreet, but came back to him when he had that horrible accident. Did they sleep together? I'd say in his case it's doubtful, but I don't know.

Fran Drescher and her husband were married for years and had a good sex life. He thought he might be gay and told her, and he finally came out. I saw them a while ago on an interview and he said he still loves her, and he'll always love her.

It's hard to pigeonhole sexuality. It's not as black and white as some people think.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 13904/22/2014

AUNTIE MERV and any woman!

N. Sparks' books stink, but he really comes across as a friend of (who shall we say now--we used to say Dorothy.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 14004/22/2014

Gay? Us?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 14104/22/2014

[quote]Paul and Joanne were a straight couple.

Sure, honey.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 14204/22/2014

Kay Francis and anyone.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 14304/22/2014

Andy Roddick/Brooklyn Decker.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 14404/22/2014

To the persons posting about tennis stars: I have always thought Agassi and Roddick were gay with lesbian wives. Any specific info?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 14504/22/2014

R145 Brooklyn openly "pals" around with women. Rihanna being one of them. She seems to be more open about lezzing out and about than Andy is.

I've heard rumors about Agassi but anyone you dated Barbara Streisand is either gay, an attention whore or is a downright gold digger.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 14604/22/2014

Steffi Graf isn't gay, that I know.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 14704/22/2014

[R142] Yeah, really - did you ever spend time with them? I did. My sister worked for Joanne for a long time.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 14804/22/2014

For a gay woman, Kay Francis sure had a lot of abortions.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 14904/22/2014

Mark Gero is still alive, and is now a successful businessman living in Europe. He also re-married.

Gero was incredibly good-looking. The photos linked here do not do him justice. He met Liza while he was stage manager for "The Act", and she was attracted to him from the start.

I don't know if it's true, but Gero was rumored to be very well-endowed.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 15004/23/2014

This isn't a lesser-known marriage, but neither are Cruise and Travolta, and they're on this list, so how about Timberlake and J. Biel?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 15104/23/2014

How about Robert Wolders...married Merle Oberon, then with Audrey Hepburn, Leslie Caron and Shirlee Fonda. Just sayin...

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 15204/29/2014

I read this entire thread.

PAUL NEWMAN WAS NOT GAY!!! Geesh!

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 15305/21/2014

"You're a queer one, Julie Jordan."

Discuss.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 15405/21/2014

A couple of months ago, I had my "innocent dreams" of the past destroyed when I read that one of Paul Newman's lovers was STEVE MCQUEEN! Oh my, my, my.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 15510/29/2014

Okay not marriage but Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 15610/29/2014

8 pages, and no mention of Penelope Cruz and Javier Bardem? That seems like one of the more obvious modern lavender marriages. At least it's more convincing than Cruz/Cruise, where she simply couldn't hide her contempt for that asshole.

And no mention of one of the more famous relationships, Robert Taylor and Barbara Stanwyck?

Alec Guinness was bisexual, and his marriage was real, not lavender. He loved his wife, but fought his attraction to men and was apparently guilty about occasional lapses with guys. According to one unauthorized biography, he was arrested for a homosexual act in a public bathroom in 1946 a la George Michael, and gave a fake name to the police and courts (a somewhat obscure Dickens character, if I recall correctly) that saved his reputation and kept the arrest secret. Guinness converted to Catholicism in the 1950's, and I think he kept more on the straight and narrow, so to speak, from that point, but it's been a while since I read the book, and I can't remember the details.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 15710/29/2014

Kate Jackson and Andrew Stevens? We could be so lucky...

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 15810/29/2014

There was an article back in 1987 in People magazine about Merchant and Ivory. They basically just dismissed the idea of discussing their relationship in detail -- in that old fashioned way.

This is their house in the Hudson Valley that Ivory still lives in, btw

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 15910/29/2014

That recent wedding in Venice, Italy, adds another couple to the list.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 16010/29/2014

No one mentioned my first husband? You're slipping.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 16110/29/2014

Julie Andrews/Tony Walton

Steve Allen was on the downlow but I don't know whether he was gay or bi, whether Audrey Meadows was gay, bi or straight, or whether she was even aware of his escapades. They definitely cared very much about each other, regardless. They had a child together and he had three children by his first wife.

As someone said above, sexuality is not always as simple as black or white.

And Newman was at least bi. It was well known.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 16210/29/2014

Duh, I meant Jayne Meadows, not her sister, of course.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 16310/29/2014

[quote]Steve Allen was on the downlow but I don't know whether he was gay or bi, whether Audrey Meadows was gay, bi or straight, or whether she was even aware of his escapades. They definitely cared very much about each other, regardless.

OMG, did Jayne Meadows know her sister, Audrey, was carrying on with Jayne's husband, Steve Allen? This is shocking news.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 16410/29/2014

You'll have to type quicker next time, R164.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 16510/29/2014

Anybody else know the story of Olivier and Kaye in disguise as a Customs officer?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 16810/29/2014

Marlon Brando and Wally Cox

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 16910/29/2014

I knew someone who claimed that Newman and Woodward used her spare room on 52nd street in Manhattan when they were both married to other people for loud, passionate sex. She knew a lot that turned out to be true about people in "show business", so that while not above exaggerating her role in affairs, I believed her. Newman was widely said to have same sex affairs on movie sets that ended when the movie did, he was ruthless about enforcing this. I heard this from a lot of people, so I assume it was true, at least now and again. I have never heard that Woodward was gay; many women "in the business" simply tolerate "flexibility" in the man they love or want/see an advantage to be with, whether they are "flexible" themselves or not.

The Lunts were very closeted, he told a young Monty Clift to hide his sexuality, butch it up and find an understanding woman (as cover if nothing else). Since Monty had just made a pass at him that was pouring cold water over things.

The story is a famous one told in various versions but is narrated in detail in The "Fabulous Lunts" by Jared Brown. Brown avoids the couple's gayness (widely known) and the number of bi or gay members of their company, which toured endlessly in between Broadway runs (Sydney Greenstreet was in the company. Though married to a woman who became schizophrenic, he was quite the queen but Brown again downplays this without entirely denying it).

Charles Laughton and Elsa Lanchester were also a gay man and a bi tending straight woman who were married, not always happily.

Many English actors married, despite conflicted sexuality. Michael Redgrave was not only strongly attracted to men but also very much into BD/SM (there's a famous, well attested story of John Gielgud greeting him with "Sir Michael Redgrave, I'll be bound!"), but appears to have loved his wife (apparently intermittently bi) and daughters. One of them, Vanessa Redgrave married Tony Richardson, who died of AIDS but evidently was bi. Natasha was their daughter.

Alec Guinness married but admitted toward the end of his life, that his devout Catholicism had caused him huge suffering, since his various homosexual affairs occasioned tremendous guilt.

Although it's likely that many of the stories about Olivier are untrue, he seems at least to have been bi throughout his life. There appears to be good reason to believe that both he and Joan Plowright, his wife at the time, had affairs with Peter Finch.

No one above mentioned Tony Perkins, as big a queen as ever queened, marrying Berry Berenson. They had two sons; he died of AIDS, she died on 9/11.

Also, no one mentioned Moss Hart, who married Kitty Carlisle. I knew Steven Bach who wrote the compendious bio of Hart called DAZZLER and he showed me some of his research. Bach got Kitty to cooperate by promising to keep Hart's homosexuality out of the book as much as possible. One of the elderly ladies, still alive who had known Hart well is quoted in his notes as saying, "WE ALL wanted to marry Moss, he was the most fun of any man ever. He had to be married for his career. But he picked her. We all had only one word when we heard, "WHY??" Kitty did try to rein in Moss' gay life, and couldn't (she spent a year in a "facility" to try and come to terms with that). He did stop cruising the subway johns, getting arrested and beaten up, and eventually she put a stop to his all male/bathing attire discouraged pool parties. But he continued to have sex with men, though they had two children, an idiot, and a brilliant daughter who was a distinguished AIDS researcher in the early days of the epidemic.

No one mentioned Hal Prince who is gay and his straight very sweet wife, Judy Chaplin. They had two children, also a threesome with John Guare, bi -- at least -- but known in his youth and mid years for making passes at male cuties. Nor did anyone mention Bernie Gersten or his monster wife (three daughters). He and Guare were finally thrown out by Joe Papp for queening it up too much but of course landed at Lincoln Center.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 17010/29/2014

I love R170.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 17110/29/2014

The idea of anyone, male or female, doing it with Danny Kaye is just awful by itself--his silly mannerisms and capering around.

Newman apparently messed around in the Navy or so Gore Vidal claimed to have been told by him. I rather doubt Newman was gay and I have known people acquainted with him going back to his high school and college days.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 17210/29/2014

Hey R170, a little odd, don't you think, that none of these alleged "trysts" with Paul Newman during his films ever came to light to the media nor expose books written nor slag mags exposing this.

I think most of what you have written is total bullshit by a bullshit writing queen who wants attention.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 17310/29/2014

R173 - I don't think Paul Newman was gay - just my opinion from my partner who knew Paul, Joanne and the family.

However, there are other true Hollywood gay stories that are true that no one seems to get excited about or be interested in. They get posted and then vanish.

I have posted the story about Spencer Tracey and Hepburn being gay or bi and not being involved sexually. Our friend was a former BF of Cukor and Cukor told him about the two of them several times. He has been telling us this story - and others - for 30-40 years. I actually don't know if he's still alive.

I don't remember if he ever met Hepburn or Tracey himself. it's possible - he knew everyone in Hollywood at the time and was very popular. He went on to be a Billy Haines type - successful in his field and used by many of the stars. He went out of fashion and lost everything. It was really sad. He should have written a book.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 17410/30/2014

They're all queer!!! (It's in my book, available on Amazon.)

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 17510/30/2014

It's strange. I never thought about Allen Ludden being gay while he was alive. But now, when I watch him on old episodes of Password, my gaydar starts pinging.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 17610/30/2014

Chris Martin and JLaw (although not married)

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 17710/30/2014

I agree R173. And it's the same with Liberace. There are no photos or films of him having sex with a male so it can't be true. It was just Scott Thorson after his money.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 17810/30/2014

Paul Newman and Liberace ... now those are pictures I`d like to see!!!

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 17910/30/2014

I finger corpses.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 18010/30/2014

So many of these are incorrect it's not even funny.

First off, I'm sure Loretta Young and Jean Louis didn't get marry to hide anything, I think it was for companionship. I mean, at his age, who cared.

Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward, though everyone would like it to be a lavender marriage, wasn't.

Laurence Olivier and Jill Esmond - incorrect. Olivier said in his autobiography that he was bi.

I don't know about Andre, but Steffi Graf is straight.

Michael Redgrave didn't marry Rachel Kempson to cover anything up. She knew he was bi and didn't care. He told his son when he was working on his bio that he was bisexual, and his son said, then you should address in your book.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 18110/30/2014

[R170] and [R173] seem to have some sense, though I disagree about Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward and I always will. I, too, know people who were close to the family. I met Steve Allen and Jayne Meadows, and I never thought either one of them was gay.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 18210/30/2014

please, Bob Fosse was not gay.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 18310/30/2014

I remember on All My Children, Peter White and Francesca James were married, and they are both gay.

I do think it's not always the case that the marriage is completely lavender. I think some people like both sexes, at least some of the people I know. Someone I've known for years had all kinds of gay affairs but was in love with two women I know well; he married one and they had two kids, and after she died, he married again. Some guys couldn't have sex with a woman if they wanted to, and most of them don't want to. I think these marriages, as someone else said, can be more complicated than is being presented here.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 18410/30/2014

wynonna Judd is gay, not sure about her husband.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 18510/30/2014

Margaret Whiting and Jack Wagner Coral Brown and Vincent Price

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 18610/30/2014

Jack Wagner is dead, r187. He liked women, but didn't have sex with them.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 18810/30/2014

Judging from [R173] one now needs to be super clear in English on Datalounge and there's no point in using the public record (that means it was universally reported in published news sources); if you do, you are "meaking things up" to "get attention" (on Datalounge, which has become the dumbest board of its kind and is anonymous?) Tony Perkins and Tony Richardson died of AIDS, Berry Berenson died on 9/11, I was MAKING THAT UP, scumbag?? There is no protection here from moronic trolls, which is why there is so little gossip or god help us, information.

[R170] I never said nor did I imply that Newman was gay. I mentioned a frequently stated rumor that came from people who worked with him. If you can read you'll notice I am on the fence about it. It's possible he played around a bit, and "a bit" in English means just that, had a way of getting off that was quick and efficient for him without involving him in the messy scandals and gossip that affairs with female stars risk. However, that I think it's "possible" and he MIGHT have done it "a bit" is not a way of saying he was gay or seriously bi or that it's true beyond a doubt.

The Moss Hart and Lunt stories are attested in the best documented books about those people, by writers who had total access to private papers and survivors, and foot note everything they say. Kitty Hart would not cooperate at first, but when she agreed if Bach kept Moss' (widely known and well documented) homosexuality on the downlow, it was too great a coup for him to pass up. In the Lunt book, in many ways one of the best books about the vanished American legitimate theater, the writer likewise seems to have felt uneasy about a well attested and widely known fact of their lives. There is no question that Hart, Lunt and Fontanne were gay, just as there is no doubt that Hart's daughter was a very distinguished early researcher into AIDS who did much valuable and brave work (DOCUMENTED, you grotesque fool at [R173].

Michael Redgrave did not cover anything up in his private life, though he didn't talk about his sexuality or predilections for publication until he wrote his autobiography. Everyone who knew him, knew the score; his wife certainly did. Like Hart, Hal Prince, Bernie Gersten and others, he enjoyed being married and loved his children. Redgrave's daughters, and Hart's daughter were remarkable, their other children less so. I hated Gersten and despised Guare, who is married but not a father, but both were very good at what they did with Guare being one of the few important American playwrights of that generation.

I wrote that I doubted most of the Olivier stories but the affair with Finch was something I know about from close friends and associates of his (his affair and Joan Plowright's affair with Finch when they were in fact married) and he was known to have been bi his entire life (some of that might have been strategic, such as his affair with Noel Coward when Coward helped him become a theater star, but in others cases probably not). I've heard conflicting stories about Danny Kaye but none have been totally convincing (to me).

Oh, fuck Datalounge.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 18910/30/2014

[quote] on Datalounge, which has become the dumbest board of its kind

The very interesting and articulate R189 is correct. DL has been dumbed down beyond recognition and now seems to only attract the most moronic of trolls.

I wish it were not so.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 19010/30/2014

My God, the damned have spoken!

The only troll around here is R189 who spends an inordinate amount of time typing up bullshit rumors in order to feel important and garner attention. This old Queen needs to turn in his caftan and earrings and just go away.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 19110/30/2014

Didn't Vivien Leigh also have an affair with Peter Finch? Or am I mistaking him for someone else?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 19210/30/2014

R176 just a hunch but I think it was the open shirts and the gold chains. Come to think of it, every man in the 70s pretty much pinged, didn't they?

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if he were bi. Something about that marriage doesn't quite add up, although I do thing they truly loved each other, even if more in a companion sense. I think Betty's straight, though. Believe it or not, back when they married, she actually benefitted more career wise.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 19310/30/2014

R192 well she was a nympho (excuse me, sex addict) so just about anyone is a possibility.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 19410/30/2014

[R192] Vivien Leigh did have an affair with Peter Finch; that's what the film "The VIPs" was based on, they were in fact running away together. A lot of her behavior had its basis in her illness.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 19510/30/2014

[R187] I was talking about Jack Wagner - did you mean Jack Wrangler?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 19610/30/2014

r193

The hair. The glasses. The leisure suit!

On Password, Allen Ludden looked like the love child of Charles Nelson Reilly and Liberace.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 19710/30/2014

r193

The hair. The glasses. The leisure suit!

On Password, Allen Ludden looked like the love child of Charles Nelson Reilly and Liberace.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 19810/30/2014

Yes, 196, Jack the porn star

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 19910/30/2014

(Announcer whispers) The password is... "closet".

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 20110/30/2014

R170, Judy Prince knows all about Hal's long affair with Farley Granger, and keeps Hal in line by threatening to go public. I do not know that anyone other than Hal would care.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 20210/30/2014

r170 and r r189 I love you.

People mocking you are just silly, jealous assholes.

Keep it coming.

Thanks again.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 20310/30/2014

[R157] Robert Taylor and Barbara Stanwyck was not a lavender marriage - here's part of an interview by the author of her bio:

"... Each marriage was complex and came about because of complex reasons – and stayed in tact because of equally complicated reasons; neither marriage came about because of homosexuality. I asked many people who would have a somewhat informed inkling about Robert Taylor’s sexuality, people who knew him at the time, or would have heard about the (then, of necessity) underground truth of his sexuality and nowhere did I come across any hint of his being gay, including interviewing Harry Hay, founder in 1950 of the Mattachine Society. If anyone would have known, or heard about the truth of Taylor’s sexuality over the years, it would have been Harry Hay. . ."

I know Robert Wolders personally, he's not gay. There was a 7 year difference between him and Audrey and 4 years between him and Shirlee.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 20410/30/2014

Van Johnson and Evie Wynn

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 20510/31/2014

[R205] Right, MGM wanted Johnson to be married, and he said the only woman he would marry was Evie Wynn. They were all friends, and lived in the same neighborhood. So MGM had Evie come in and told her if she didn't divorce Wynn, his contract wouldn't be renewed.

Wynn married twice more.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 20610/31/2014

[R170], Arthur Laurents is the one who had and wrote (tactlessly) about his fling with Farley Grainger, no doubt exaggerating his attraction to Laurents, as vicious piece of scum as existed in his time, short and homely to boot. Prince, like Gersten, tended in his active days to meet men at the baths, sometimes continuing brief affairs. Of course Prince's wife (Judy) knows (or more likely knew) the score and had some flings of her own (with males).

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 20711/11/2014

I was replying to [R202] above.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 20811/11/2014

R58, you're deluded. Everyone knows about Olivier's long affair with Danny Kaye. In fact, Olivier had it in the first draft of his autobiography, but Plowright begged him to leave the homo stuff out.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 20911/11/2014

Good parody post r211

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 21211/11/2014

Popeye and Olive Oyl

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 21311/11/2014

I can't type with only one hand it seems!

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 21411/11/2014

Vivien Leigh had a long-term affair with Peter Finch. They did not hide it from Olivier but carried on pretty much non-stop including during Finch's visits to the Oliviers' home at the time, Notley. Olivier could not manage Vivien's behavior and Finch seemed to be able to keep her on a relatively even keel. This was during a particularly grim phase of Vivien's illness which caused Olivier and everyone else concerned a great deal of suffering. It seems unlikely that Olivier or Joan Plowright had an affair with Finch-- while Olivier managed a peculiar sort of detente with Finch as long as he was involved with his then-wife Vivien, Finch had nothing but unhappy associations for Olivier and after he died Olivier reportedly said "I'm glad he's dead."

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 21511/11/2014

R210/R211 are the best argument for the systematic extermination of heterosexuals that ever was. You "people" have destroyed the earth with your uncontrolled breeding, and very little you have created is of value. Do us all a favor and drop dead.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 21611/11/2014

To 149, who wrote "For a gay woman, Kay Francis sure had a lot of abortions" -- she was bi and had many, many partners, as a recent book based on her diaries indicates.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 21712/26/2014

What about Tony Curtis? I always got a vibe from him.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 21812/26/2014

[R167] "Danny Kaye is an interesting case. ... he was not very physically attractive (like Leslie Howard, who also seemed to "get around" but apparently only with women) - but very talented and seemed charming. ...

First of all, talent and charm are INCREDIBLY sexy. Second of all, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and I -- like many people I know -- find both DK and LH very attractive. Yes, their features, not just their inner appeal shining out, tho that's considerable, too. Sheesh.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 21912/26/2014

[R170], I think you'll find that Peter Finch had an affair with the *second* Mrs Olivier (Vivian Leigh), not the third (Joan Plowright).

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 22012/26/2014

R213 Every one knows that Popeye loved only Bluto and vice versa. Olive Oyl was madly in love with Wimpy, who only had eyes for Betty Boop.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 22112/26/2014

if all of these are the "lesser know" marriages what are the well known marriages?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 22212/26/2014

Zsa Zsa supposedly begged the gay dept store heir Charles Lloyd Jones to marry her.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 22312/26/2014

In the old days, a lot of times women didn't know they were marrying gay men. Someone told me a story of Rosemary Harris, a wonderful actress if you don't know who she is, married to director Ellis Raab. One day she came into the dressing room for the show she was doing and asked the women in the dressing room how often couples have sex. Was once a month normal?

Eventually they divorced and she remarried.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 22412/26/2014

What about Richard Gere and Cindy Crawford? Wondered about that union.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 22501/01/2015

R219 is easily staggered, isn't she?

But then anyone who would find the preening, devious, smug and egocentric Miss Danny Fucking Kaye sexy is capable of anything.

Including stupid hyperbole.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 22601/01/2015

Sorry to link to the odious Daily Mail but there is some entertaining dish in this article about Laurence Olivier's affair with Noel Coward and his fling with Danny Kaye (whom, according to the author, Coward despised, referring to him dismissively as 'Randy Dan Kaminski').

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 22701/02/2015

To any one who has problems believing Paul Newman was bi, read Cloris Leachman's book. She outed Newman, Brando and her late ex-husband George Englund.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 22802/16/2015

R228, that is interesting but how can anyone believe Cloris Leachman when she was thee most hated person in Hollywood because she was completely vile. Also, she claims Newman hit on her and she turned him down? really? He was attracted to women with snakes in their hair?

She hated fat people and put them down a lot. I remember I watched an interview with Cloris and her then very fat daughter. Her mother kept jabbing remarks about her daughter's weight, and her daughter at the time looked like she was deeply hurt with low self esteem. Her daughter at that time was around 15.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 22902/16/2015

Liar, wasn't on your list, though.

If this is true I feel for her daughter.

She strikes me as a little bit bonkers and she brings that edge to her performances. No fear whatsoever.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 23002/16/2015

R218, I agree about Tony Curtis. When he got older he act like a major queen. Yet he claimed he was straight? Someone said he wrote one autobiography claiming he was bisexual and then he wrote a second autobiography claiming he was straight? Tony was interviewed about his second autobiography and the interviewer asked him if he lived with roommates when he was younger something like that ,and Tony snapped at the poor guy saying, I stayed at the Playboy mansion! What?! you think I don't like girls! then later on in his life he said he had an affair with Marylin Monroe which he never claimed before, I don't believe that claim because it sounded like complete BS. I think everyone wanted to make the claim they had an affair with Marylin. He was weird. T The same goes for Marlon Brando. He once said he was bisexual ,and then later on in his life he said he wasn't. I don't get it?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 23102/16/2015

I just watched Around The World in 80 Days. That Mexican actor, Cantinflas is in that movie,and I was wondering if anyone knows anything about him? He was just adorable on screen. I know that he was married to the same woman for years and after her death he never remarried. They never had any children together. Was this little guy a little homo any info?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 23202/16/2015

Cantinflas was a major queen. Columbia tried to make a star out of him with a film called "Pepe", but it bombed at the box office.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 23302/16/2015

r228-229 - Our only course must be impeachment - An interview with Cloris Leachman!

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 23402/16/2015

Tony Curtis was a womanizer. In laster life he had a horrendous wig, doesn't qualify for gayness.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 23502/16/2015

R233, he was gay?!I'm not denying what you are saying is true.I'm just curious. Where did you get that info? because there is very little out there on him. I think he was really cute.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 23602/17/2015

[quote]Peter Allen was NOT bisexual.

…but he [italic]was[/italic] "bi-coastal"!

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 23702/17/2015

How long do Timberlake & Biel have to last to qualify?

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 23802/17/2015

Plenty of gay men walk around with horrendous wigs.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 23902/17/2015

Maxwell Caulfield and Juliet Mills

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 24002/17/2015

[R241] I knew Tony Curtis and he was a notorious pussyhound and a major breast man. One of his assistants, Nahlani, sued him for sexual harassment. He used to leave her love poems.

It's possible he experimented when he first came to Hollywood but I know for a fact that he loves women and the bigger the breasts, the better.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 24102/17/2015

These "marriages" are ones of convenience, or in some cases it's because the man is very wealthy and the woman is young and hot.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 24205/20/2015

Clint Black and Lisa Hartman.

by Kate & Spencer....still keeping up the frontreply 24305/20/2015
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