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Kim Fields Mom ***BURNS*** Janet Jackson with an Iron!

See clip below.

Why wasn't child welfare called about this?

by Anonymousreply 10001/29/2014

Slap 'er, Willona!

by Anonymousreply 101/04/2013

It's "Slap him Willona" referring to the actor Chip Fields hired to fool her.

by Anonymousreply 201/04/2013

In this scene Kim Fields Mom returns to attack Janet Jackson again!

by Anonymousreply 301/04/2013

Damn. That was kind of heavy for a half hour sitcom.

by Anonymousreply 401/04/2013

At the very end of OP's clip:

Chip Fields: "I've come to take Penny home."

Lady in the audience: "No, you [italic]won't![/italic]"

by Anonymousreply 501/04/2013

Chip Fields was actually pretty scary in those episodes.

by Anonymousreply 601/04/2013

Chip Hurd was seriously underrated as an actress. I loved her scenes with Kim Fields on "Living Single," watching two veteran actresses with the mother-daughter interaction they had was priceless. Queen Latifah's real life mother would film scenes with QL, but it wasn't the same as Rita Owens was not an actress.

by Anonymousreply 701/04/2013

I know this sounds borderline MARY, but Chip Fields was absolutely electric in the episodes in which she appeared.

by Anonymousreply 801/04/2013

Chip Fields seems to be underrated as an actress.

by Anonymousreply 901/04/2013

So Michael (the actor - Ralph Carter) is definitely gay, cause the boy always pinged to high heaven?

by Anonymousreply 1001/04/2013

R10, he's got a nice shelf-like ass, but he wears his pants too damn high!

by Anonymousreply 1101/04/2013

R11, Michael's ass is delicious. Definitely had a crush on him back in the day.

Willona and Chip Fields were both excellent in these episodes and deserved Emmy's for these performances.

Chip Fields' was Precious' mom before Precious, down to the doo-rag. I wonder if Mo'Nique used this character as the basis for her portrayal.

by Anonymousreply 1201/04/2013

Chip Fields was definitely talented... too bad she was selfish and kept all that talent to herself... her daughter was terrible. She should have at least told Kim she didn't need to scream all her lines.

by Anonymousreply 1301/04/2013

Chip was cool on the OG Spider-Man TV show.

by Anonymousreply 1401/04/2013

[quote]Chip Fields' was Precious' mom before Precious, down to the doo-rag. I wonder if Mo'Nique used this character as the basis for her portrayal.

lol come to think of it she sure was! I wonder if Chip looked begrudgingly at her TV when Monique won the Academy Award.

r7 also loved when Chip did episodes with Kim on Living Single, it was perfect. Kim is a very religious woman. I was a little shocked to see her on Andy Cohen's show with Mindy Cohn.

by Anonymousreply 1501/04/2013

Awesome and VERY dark episodes. Way ahead of its time and actually more chilling than the barrage of violence in "Precious" because you just see the after-effects of a little girl trying to protect her mom and her protect herself FROM her mom. I agree with the posters that both Chip and Janet deserved Emmy noms for these episodes.

by Anonymousreply 1601/04/2013

It's because she knew someday Janet would grow up to become penniless and fat, wasn't it?

by Anonymousreply 1701/04/2013

r11 and r12 have ruined my innocent memories of this show my making me think about how much I would have loved to deflower Michael's perfect ass!

by Anonymousreply 1801/04/2013

It seems campy now, but I grew up watching this show in rural Ohio and I really had no idea people lived liked this. Just the idea that a whole family could live in a small apartment (and with an obnoxious douche like J.J.) seemed unreal.

by Anonymousreply 1901/04/2013

It's painfully obvious that Penny had severe trauma issues. It's the only way to explain why she'd be in love with JJ or find him remotely attractive.

If the writers were so concerned with reality they should have made Penny have the hots for Michael. That would have been much more realistic than the fantasy of her having a crush on JJ.

by Anonymousreply 2001/04/2013


JJ was sexy because he was cool, like the Fonz, not because he was attractive.

by Anonymousreply 2101/04/2013

Did Maude ever visit her beloved Florida in the ghetto?

by Anonymousreply 2201/04/2013

JJ was sexy in the same way that Telly Savalas was hairy.

by Anonymousreply 2301/04/2013

This is a traumatic TV moment from my childhood. I was upset for days after seeing that.

by Anonymousreply 2401/04/2013

Later, Penny almost gets raped - man, they put tat little girl through the ringer!

Mark 3:54

by Anonymousreply 2501/04/2013

Janet was actually a good actress back then. I've always thought Ja'net Dubois was great.

by Anonymousreply 2601/04/2013

Janet Jackson was great on "Good Times," I do wonder if she was channeling her real life experiences into her character given what we know about the Jackson Family nowadays

Little-known fact: Ja'Net DuBois/Willona sang the theme song for "The Jeffersons."

Also, if anyone has ever seen the long version of Janet Jackson's "Control" video, Willona is the mother in the beginning of that video. Always loved that shout out.

Kim Fields mainly works as a director for a lot of Tyler Perry's sitcoms nowadays. She also directed a few episodes of "Keenan and Kel" back in the 90's. I've read before that she said it was somewhat difficult for her to play Regine on "Living Single" because it was hard for her to transition from a child actress to an adult actress and the type of character Regine was...She could've fooled me because she was totally badass as Regine, wigs and goldigging aspirations and all.

by Anonymousreply 2701/04/2013

r22, there was a very special episode in the last season when Maude flew to Chicago to be with Florida at a special anniversary memorial service for James Evans. Florida was about to shatter yet another crystal punch bowl in blind fury when the sad memories welled up within her all over again, but Maude took her aside and warned, "Don't you dare, Florida, or God'll get you for that." Florida then broke down in hysterical tears, and they held each other and talked fondly about the old days in Tuckahoe, raising first Carol and then little Philip.

Then they went to spend an afternoon of beauty together, in which they both got Jheri-curls at a local salon (Maude had wanted to try wearing them after reading about them in a special issue of "Hype Hair" on the flight to Chicago). It was a bittersweet episode.

by Anonymousreply 2801/04/2013

I didn't buy Janet Jackson as an abused child at all. Little Penny looked oddly plump and healthy for an abused child. She also is strangely vivacious and outgoing for a child in an abusive home environment.

I also thought it was stupid for Willona to all of a sudden want to be a single mother. She never seemed like a maternal type and wham, she's suddenly dying to be Penny's Mama. The addition of Penny to the cast was a typical jump the shark moment: add a new kid, that's a sure way to bring in more viewers!

by Anonymousreply 2901/04/2013

r29, thanks for implying only ugly children should be abused. Douchebag.

by Anonymousreply 3001/04/2013

Is that a joke, r28?

by Anonymousreply 3101/04/2013

I remember when this episode of Janet/Penny getting burned aired. I cried

by Anonymousreply 3201/04/2013

No, it's real, r31. Try looking it up on youtube--you should find old clips from that episode.

by Anonymousreply 3301/04/2013

R19, which is kind of ironic because on the flipside, I've met lots of black and Hispanic friends who watched the Brady Bunch in the '70s as kids, and wondered if that's really what white folks life was like (so wholesome and carefree). Although I think Good Times speaks to a more realistic truth about inner-city life in the '70s than the Brady Bunch ever did about anybody.

On a less serious note, Michael's ass deserves a thread of its own. Whatever happened to Ralph Carter? Did he ever come out of the closet?

by Anonymousreply 3401/04/2013

Michael had the perfect ghetto booty.

Ralph Carter probably used that thick butt to pay a lot of bills after Good Times ended.

by Anonymousreply 3501/05/2013

[quote] Ja'net Dubois and Chip Fields were both excellent in these episodes and deserved Emmy's for these performances.

Ja'net Dubois already has two Emmys on her shelf. The closest Chip Fields has to an Emmy is her husband's who is a 4-time Emmy winner.

by Anonymousreply 3601/05/2013

[quote]At the very end of OP's clip: Chip Fields: "I've come to take Penny home." Lady in the audience: "No, you won't!"

The studio audience for Good Times was the fuckin' best. They got into the show so much that it made it more fun to watch at home.

by Anonymousreply 3701/05/2013

Can't have a GT thread without this gem:

by Anonymousreply 3801/05/2013

r37, my Dad used to make fun of that audience. He got the biggest kick out of them. He used to say things like "Those blacks really know how to get into it." I didn't mean any disrespect by that, but my Dad was of a different generation that said stuff like that.

by Anonymousreply 3901/05/2013

They used to credit at the end of the show:

Ralph Carter courtesy of the Broadway musical "Raisin"

by Anonymousreply 4001/05/2013

"thanks for implying only ugly children should be abused. Douchebag."

You are stupid as shit. Nowhere did I saw "only ugly children should be abused." What I said was that the character of Penny seemed too happy and healthy to be convincing as a child who lived in fear of a battering mother. Asshole.

by Anonymousreply 4101/05/2013

r33 - stop teasing. That's not very nice.

by Anonymousreply 4201/05/2013

No GT thread isn't complete without this:

by Anonymousreply 4301/05/2013

Flordia mentions only once during the entire run of Good Times that she once worked as a maid. But the Florida Evans of Good Times was never connected to Maude Finlay's Flordia Evans ever again after her last episode on the TV show Maude. Amos played firefighter Henry Evans on that episode of Maude in which Florida quit her job; on Good Times, he became non-career man James Evans ... two totally different characters.

I think they wanted the Evanses to be more Chicago ghetto than outskirt New York lower-middle class blacks, so the two shows were never connected.

by Anonymousreply 4401/07/2013

I used to fantasize that James was fucking Willona. They both came off as incredibly sexual.

by Anonymousreply 4501/07/2013

In that iconic scene, you can hear the plastic bowl hit the floor and the sound guy adding the breaking glass a millisecond later.

by Anonymousreply 4601/07/2013

[quote]Chip and Janet deserved Emmy noms for these episodes

Indeed. They were both robbed.

About James and Willona, you know there'd be no way in hell that he wouldn't have hit on her in real life. She was ten times more attractive that his wife. Likewise, she would have likely had her eye on his big, buff, fine ass herself.

by Anonymousreply 4701/07/2013

Ja'net in Janet's "Control" video.

by Anonymousreply 4801/07/2013

I loved those 70s pants on the men. Thelma's husband Keith was kinda hot too.

by Anonymousreply 4901/07/2013

Janet and Ja'net in 2008

by Anonymousreply 5001/07/2013

[quote] Thelma's husband Keith was kinda hot too.

Totally. Ben Powers looked great in those tight 70s pants. Watch this "Keith Slaps Thelma" clip from the 8:04 mark until the end...

by Anonymousreply 5101/07/2013

This episode of "Good Times" severely scarred me as a child. It as being a multi-episode arc. In fact, I remember everything I was doing when I saw it: the carpet in our living room, the little wooden table at which I ate Cheerios while watching TV. I just couldn't fathom how a mother could burn her daughter with an iron. Not to MARY!-out or anything, but this definitely some kind of turning point in recognizing that the world was not as safe and happy as I'd previously thought.

I have similar memories of the Diff'rent Strokes episode where the kids were kidnapped. These themes were a little too heavy for younger children (or my parents' weren't restrictive enough with my television viewing!)

by Anonymousreply 5201/07/2013

Why did Willona live in the projects when she obviously didn't need to be there. She was pretty, fashionable, had a job.. Her pad was nice. WHY live there? Was she getting subsidized housing?

by Anonymousreply 5301/07/2013

Plus she could've easily have gotten a sugar daddy for herself. I guess if I were living next door to a god like James Evans, I'd be reluctant to leave too.

I love how they were always saying how dangerous the building was, but the door was always unlocked. LOL

by Anonymousreply 5401/07/2013

In real life, the development office would have thrown Wilona out to make room for a welfare case with 5 kids from 5 different fathers.

by Anonymousreply 5501/07/2013

Willona kept mentioning the boutique and I pictured her working at a small, fashionable store on the Gold Coast.

Years later when she becomes security, the boutique has expanded into a huge department store.

Loved the follow-up episode a season later when Chip Fields came back to get her daughter and Willona pretty much slammed her against a wall. And then the story that Penny still woke up at night screaming... yeesh.

by Anonymousreply 5601/07/2013

Willona should've sold her rocking body to earn some cheddar and get out of the ghetto.

by Anonymousreply 5701/07/2013

Cute r57,

I think my most memorable episode was when Debbie Allen played a junky. I did not know exactly what she was doing "shooting up", but I knew I never wanted to try drugs.

by Anonymousreply 5801/07/2013

One of the most bizarre episodes is the one where Robert Guilliaume's character fakes his death and then makes a surprise appearance at his own wake. I think it was the season in which Esther Rolle quit. Every time I see that episode, I realize the writers (I think Austin & Irma Kalish) were probably on an acid trip when they wrote that. It was just so strange.

by Anonymousreply 5901/07/2013

Lol r5. I love it when the audience gets a *little* too into t.

by Anonymousreply 6001/07/2013

It may be my fond misremembering, but in the creepy scene where Chip Fields is ironing and the audience slowly realizes what her intentions are, I think an audience member said, loud enough to be overheard:

"She gonna BURN that girl!"

by Anonymousreply 6101/07/2013

When Penny is about to shoplift her Christmas present for Willona after some guy steals her purse, you can clearly hear a male audience member yelling "No, Penny, don't it!"

by Anonymousreply 6201/07/2013

I always loved how you could so clearly hear the audience talking to the characters. The studio staff must have liked it, otherwise you'd think they would have warned the audience and threatened them with removal if they talked during the performances.

And yes, somebody PLEASE explain why Willona was living in the projects. There was no way a piece like that wouldn't have found a good man if she wanted to.

I always wondered who swept the floors there. Was it Thelma? Florida? Michael? Willona seemed to have carpet, but not the Evans'.

Also, the Evans house seemed to be much too small for a family of four and Willona had the same amount of room.

Can you imagine that fridge and how it would have held so much food for a big family, especially one with three men?

And Michael... Even as a little gayling, I didn't like him. I secretly lusted for James and thought J.J. was the coolest, funniest thing. But Michael just seemed like a mincing, self adoring little queen. I bet she grew up to be a prissy ass judge and big old bottom.

by Anonymousreply 6301/07/2013

Ja'net DuBois is someone who should be on TV more, at least making guest appearances on sitcoms. She was great-should have been a gay icon.

by Anonymousreply 6401/07/2013

Maybe that would make a good thread?

"Shes gonna BURN that girl!: Overheard audience reactions on tv"

Only with a funnier title.

by Anonymousreply 6501/07/2013

Ja'Net made quite the sitcom rounds in the 90s, and has been in some films including Keenan Ivory Wayans' "I'm Gonna Git You Sucka" and "Charlie's Angels Full Throttle". I wonder if she makes a mint from co-writing and singing the theme song for "The Jeffersons".

As for Willona finding a man, there was an episode where an old flame of hers came back to woo her into marrying him, and he was rich if I remember correctly. She turned him down, because Penny was the only priority in her life at the time.

by Anonymousreply 6601/07/2013

Bern Nadette does a blooper around mark 00:47 -interesting how the show just keeps rolling even though she kind of gives up for a second.

by Anonymousreply 6701/07/2013

The audience of GT would have to be the most involved and passionate audience in TV history - here, they almost rush the stage in a frenzied act of active participation:

by Anonymousreply 6801/07/2013

This episode and the one where John Amos is murdered were really strong stuff for a TV sitcom in the 1970's. I guess GT was a forerunner of the "dramedy."

by Anonymousreply 6901/07/2013

Why did Willona always call gayMichael "gramps"?

by Anonymousreply 7001/07/2013

Because Michael was wise beyond his years.

by Anonymousreply 7101/07/2013

Was James murdered or did he die in a construction accident?

by Anonymousreply 7201/08/2013

I think James was killed in a car accident off screen. He'd just gotten a good job somewhere else. The family was about to move to be with him when they got the news.

by Anonymousreply 7301/08/2013

It was weird knowing that John Amos was actually young enough to be Esther Rolle's son (as was Sherman Hemsley to Isabelle Sanford on "The Jeffersons").

by Anonymousreply 7401/08/2013

R73 is correct. They were going to




Crooked letter, crooked letter


Crooked letter, crooked letter


Humpback! Humpback!


by Anonymousreply 7501/08/2013

In a scene right out of a daytime soap opera, friends and family gather to celebrate the Evans moving to a better life; it's at this moment a telegram arrives to bring news of James' tragic death.

Cue organ music ....

by Anonymousreply 7601/08/2013

I was born after this show aired, but after seeing these clips, I can see why you all love it so much. It's somehow both over-the-top and very real at the same time.

by Anonymousreply 7701/08/2013

I love how there's always a mix-up with the "Hangin' in a chow line!" part of the theme song. Some people say "Hangin' in a jury!"

by Anonymousreply 7801/08/2013

Man - I forgot how heavy the show was. I remember the Penny and the iron episode clearly too. And the death of James.

It was a fun show though - and the audience added so much at times. It was a huge hit for awhile.

FYI - It's actually "hanging in and jiving" - not hanging in a chow line.

by Anonymousreply 7901/08/2013

[quote]FYI - It's actually "hanging in and jiving" - not hanging in a chow line.

There was conflicting info concerning that line. The DVD insert had the chow line lyric, but the writers did confirm it to be hangin' in and jivin'.

by Anonymousreply 8001/08/2013

They should make a sitcom where it's nothing but contemporary actors re-enacting old "Good Times" scenes.

It would be far better than 90% of what's on T.V. today anyways.

by Anonymousreply 8101/08/2013

When Janet guest-hosted SNL in 2004, they re-enacted Good Times, and she reprised the Penny role. At the 3:10 mark in the following video.

by Anonymousreply 8201/08/2013

This is absolutely hands-down my favorite episode of Good Times ever. It's nothing over-the-top or melodramatic, nothing ghetto or socio-political. It's all about family - a father and daughter, a father and son, a husband and wife, a mother and her children. And I love it because it is a turning point in J.J.'s place in the family. Walking around for 3 seasons acting like a class clown, trading barbs with his sister, J.J. quietly steps up to the plate - surprising his family and the viewer. The last scene of the episode is just the sweetest thing this show ever did.

You may have to really know the show up to this point (this aired in the third season) for it to really hit home and get the significance of what happens, but it's worth watching for even the novice.

"Love In the Ghetto"

by Anonymousreply 8301/09/2013

-great show

by Anonymousreply 8401/10/2013

R82, that's exactly how a Good Times episode was. LOL. Everything goes wrong in the end... except for in the final episode when all their dreams came true.

by Anonymousreply 8501/10/2013

They should do an updated version of Good Times.

FOX tried in the 90s with a show called South Central

Always wondered why FOX cancelled that so quickly.

by Anonymousreply 8601/10/2013

Believe it or not, pre-Urkel Family Matters was supposed to be a '90s, more middle-class update to Good Times: a black Chicago family comedy and their ups and downs. Ironic that both shows' more serious messages would be upstaged by a gimmick character (JJ, Urkel).

by Anonymousreply 8701/10/2013

Damn Amos was a hot piece of ass. I got the vapors watching the R83 video.

by Anonymousreply 8801/10/2013

[quote]J.J. quietly steps up to the plate - surprising his family and the viewer. The last scene of the episode is just the sweetest thing this show ever did.

Wow, never realized that, but you're so right. Here's where it happens...

by Anonymousreply 8901/10/2013

Go to 4:40 for another great scene between Chip Fields and Ja'net Dubois

And another audience member screaming out 'You tell em Willona!'

by Anonymousreply 9001/25/2013

There was a show where Willona takes on a second job in order to pay for dancing lessons (or singing lessons; I can't remember) for her darling little Penny, who wants to be a star. She takes a job as a security guard watching watching shoppers from behind the mirror in a dressing room. Willona takes the job, but doesn't think it's fair to spy on people; she thinks she's invading their privacy! In fact, when she sees a woman trying to shoplift clothing she pounds on the mirror to alert her to the fact she's being seen! The shoplifter bolts without being apprehended due to Willona's heads up. I was truly disgusted by that show. She's worried about the privacy of shoplifters? Willona was a moron!

by Anonymousreply 9101/25/2013

All actors involved (Chip, Ja'Net and Janet) were robbed for Emmys for these episodes.

by Anonymousreply 9201/25/2013

We need more stills of Michael's butt stuffed into those tight pants!

by Anonymousreply 9301/25/2013


by Anonymousreply 9403/16/2013

Chip Fields was very underrated as an actress in the industry

by Anonymousreply 9510/16/2013

Penny was the original fire starter.

by Anonymousreply 9601/28/2014

[quote]Why wasn't child welfare called about this?

They were. Child Services only cared about getting a glass of goldfish water.

by Anonymousreply 9701/29/2014

[quote]Chip Fields was definitely talented... too bad she was selfish and kept all that talent to herself... her daughter was terrible. She should have at least told Kim she didn't need to scream all her lines.

And yet Kim was the one that ended up with the career and fame. What does that say about the world we live in?

Kim Fields also comes off like a smug, angry, bitch.

by Anonymousreply 9801/29/2014

Below is the video of Kim and Chip being honored as Atlanta Women of the year.

Chip sacrificed her career for Kim's. She put Kim's needs above her own.

Kim cries in this video remembering all the sacrifices her mom made on behalf of her career.

by Anonymousreply 9901/29/2014

penny's mother returns WITH EVIL ON HER MIND. and great styling.

i'd post the link, but i'm not a member. it's called "a matter of mothers"- chip fields appears at the end of part one. and looking FIERTH.

by Anonymousreply 10001/29/2014
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