Do you think Jack and Rose from Titanic really loved each other?

[quote]No one in their right mind falls madly in love with someone

Do you have any idea what the phrase "fall madly in love" means?

OP, SHE DROPPED THE STONE, DIDN"T SHE? WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT??????

Oh it happens OP, it happens. Has happened to me 3 times in fact.

As for the movie- fun effects- but the lighting and the flashlights at the end kind of spoiled a lot of it for me.

Stupidest movie of the last hundred years.

It didnt actually take 3 days for the ship to sink - it took an hour and a half or so ... the ship was sailing for 3 days BEFORE it hit the iceberg .. you must be really stupid, maybe you are about 12 or so?

But for the record, you can - and might when you grow up - fall in love at first sight. Happened to me.

This is the bigger laugh ever: "it took three days for Titanic to sink" ... the rescue boats could really have taken their time then !

She was letting her mother pressure her into marrying a rich creep, of course she wanted a way out. And of course he wanted a girl who was totally out of his league.

They never could have built a life together, they had nothing in common. But because he died after three passionate days, she was able to romanticize the fling and convince herself he was the love of her life. She even found the courage to live life on her own terms, the way he had.

Of course if she'd tried to tag along on his peripatetic life, she'd have been very unhappy. You can't tag along on someone else's journey, you have to have your own.

He would not have had a peripatetic life if he married her. And she was romanticizing what he did for her in saving her life literally (twice) and figuratively as much as she was romanticizing him.

I've always wondered if Rose's mother Ruth eventually did become a seamstress after "losing" Rose on the Titanic.

R5, it may have not taken all that long for the ship to sink, but that movie went on FOREVER.

Since they are FICTIONAL characters and played by actors, I believe the correct answer is no.

I thought it strange that Rose's mother, fiancee and others who knew her never found out that she survived the Titanic. She was an actress in Hollywood films, for christ's sake! How high-profile can you get? Her mother, fiancee and others never saw her in a film, a magazine, newspaper etc.?

she was too fat to be loved.

[quote]Her mother, fiancee and others never saw her in a film, a magazine, newspaper etc.?

She gave her name as Rose Dawson when rescued. Now, you don't think that the mother, the fiancee, or anyone would have thought to check to see if a "Jack Dawson" survived? He was the last person with her and all.

At that point, how dumb must you be to look at the survivor list for a "Jack Dawson" see a "Rose Dawson" and not put the pieces together?

"I thought it strange that Rose's mother, fiancee and others who knew her never found out that she survived the Titanic. She was an actress in Hollywood films, for christ's sake! "

They never said she was a big star, it's more likely she lived on bit parts and chorus lines until she found a husband.

[quote]He would not have had a peripatetic life if he married her. And she was romanticizing what he did for her in saving her life literally (twice) and figuratively as much as she was romanticizing him.

What life together? He met her when she was about to jump off the fucking boat, and she never did or said one single thing that wasn't restraining order level crazy from that moment until the poor guy drowned.

I don't think it would have taken a bright lad like Jack too long to figure out that as soon as the gangplank went down it was time put as much distance as possible between him and that insane stalker bitch.

Besides, he had Fabrizio down in steerage, and if you notice, that's where he went every night after he slipped her leash.

That's true r16, and many people think this sort of insanity is hip.

I know, R17. Silly fools.

There's Jack, minding his own business, peacefully smoking s cigarette on the fantail, and watching the stars when he makes the faulty decision to get involved in her drama.

Two days later he's in handcuffs chained to a water pipe, and she's coming at him with an axe.

Yes. Just like Bill and Hill.

[quote]It didnt actually take 3 days for the ship to sink - it took an hour and a half or so ... the ship was sailing for 3 days BEFORE it hit the iceberg .. you must be really stupid, maybe you are about 12 or so?

And you are just as stupid. The ship sank in 2 hours and 40 minutes. Clearly, you are basing your time estimates on how long it took for the ship to sink in the movie.

I think they loved each other at one point, but relations were quite chilly towards the end.

A lot of people think she froze him out.

(By the way, that bitch would have been just as dead from exposure...)

What do you mean R21, I thought they loved each other 'til Jack's death.

And ya I was also wondering about that too. I mean Jack's dead because half his body was immersed in water, then shouldn't Rose be too? So she wasn't immersed in water, but heck she had frost all over her when she woke up.

No, OP. Jack was actually gay, just like me.

If Titanic took place today, Jack would be ignoring Rose's texts and trying to hook up with that rich MILF, Molly Brown.

Rose clearly had a thing for gay men. After all, her fiance wore mascara and eyeliner.

R23, then marry me! I've had such a crush for you!

[quote]Jack's dead because half his body was immersed in water, then shouldn't Rose be too?

Blubber, like a seal. She was well insulated.

Rose's mother needed a slap across the face....silly bitch

r27 LOL!

bump

People married young back then so they probably would have married. Jack would have persued art and Rose would have encouraged him to get an art degree. He would have become an art professor and they would travel the world enjoying museums, theatre, and architecture. She would accomplish all the things depicted in the film with Jack by her side cheering her on.

If Jack and Rose had married and attempted to settle down...

The passion would have faded when the children came along - no birth control in those days. He would have been unhappy to have given up his carefree, adventurous life, and would resent her for tying him down. She'd be unhappy with the realities of poverty, and resent Jack for failing to provide the children with a better life.

r31 is a sweet little soul.....(DL will skin him alive)

[quote]I thought it strange that Rose's mother, fiancee and others who knew her never found out that she survived the Titanic. She was an actress in Hollywood films, for christ's sake! How high-profile can you get? Her mother, fiancee and others never saw her in a film, a magazine, newspaper etc.?

They mentioned she dabbled in acting in LA, but never said she made a career out of it. Like R15, I got the impression that she got bit parts, but was never a major player and certainly not a Hollywood star. She probably didn't get screen credit. It seems acting was just a means to an end, a way she supported herself in order to do the things she and Jack talked of doing together. At the end, as she lay in bed sleeping (dying?) the camera pans on the photographs she says she takes everywhere she goes, and they're of her doing just that: riding the roller coaster; posing in aviator clothes next to the "flying machine", which implies she learned to fly a plane; riding a horse astride, etc.

Then she met a guy Calvert, married him, settled down in Grand Rapids, MI, and had kids.

I think it was love, not lust. there was no way it couldn't be. If it were simply lust, he would have had no need of her after they had sex. He didn't have to save her, but he did.

Oh for crap's sake, it was just a stupid movie. But in my opinion, whatever was between Jack and Rose wasn't "love." How could it be? They hardly even knew each other. But that's movie "love." People who barely know each other fall forever "in love" in a heartbeat.

People who hardly know each other fall in love in the real world too, r36

how did those dead threads get digged up from nowhere?

If she had stayed in the lifeboat he would have floated on the door and survived

OP is a straight woman troll

Her poor husband must have lived in Jack’s shadow their whole marriage.

Wait what happened to the stone?

It was just a dumb movie. In movies, people who barely know each other fall in love easy as pie. It's fantasy and it's so hackneyed but some people still go for that kind of crap.

The only thing Jack loved was cocaine ... oh wait, that was Leo.

Did all that cold water kill his sperm which were making a path in her vaginal canal?

I'm sure Jack pulled out.

If only they were real people...

If Jack had survived they would have had a great life at least for a while. She didn't just have the stone, she had the diamonds on the necklace strand. Hock those a few at a time and build a life. It would have been tough to sell the stone but those could have fueled a nice life. And when Cal died in '29, well now you can get rid of the big stone.

She'd have kicked Jack to the curb and gone after another rich hubby.

Watch some episodes of Judge Judy. Half the litigants "fell in love" and moved in with each other two or three days after their first meeting.

Clearly it was love and a spectacular love, since not only is Jack’s spirit waiting for Rose in the afterlife, all of the other Titanic victims are there to celebrate them, too. Unless they don’t have anything else to do?

And Rose’s spirit goes right to Jack’s, not that of the Calvert guy she eventually married. I’m pretty sure the screenwriters intended for is to believe this is “true love.”

"Her poor husband must have lived in Jack’s shadow their whole marriage. "

Probably not, I bet there were enough lovers before her marriage that he didn't stand out.

How did Rose support herself after surviving the Titanic and abandoning everything, her mother, her fiance, etc.? All she had was the clothes on her back and that million dollar diamond in her pocket, which she didn't sell. How did she live? I suppose by prostitution.

R53, she either sold the smaller diamonds to live on (and replaced them later), or used the necklace as collateral for a loan. The movie said she'd worked as an actress, and FYI a theater actor in those days had to provide their own costumes or fund their own star vehicles, so it wasn't a profession that was open to the poor, and apparently she managed it. And she probably had other lovers before she married, and it was the done thing in those days for a man to support his mistress, to buy her diamonds and houses.

She probably ended up marrying well, she was a good-looking gal with posh mannerisms, and a passionate nature. Straight men would have found her very attractive, once she got going.