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Who's gay in Gospel music?

I watch the Gaither Reunion shows from time to time and I have to say there seem to be a number of flamers in the gospel world. Mark Lowry, for one.

Who else?

by Anonymousreply 15003/30/2016

Pure gold R14

by Anonymousreply 1612/06/2011

Who isn't?

by Anonymousreply 2112/06/2011

R22 The Clark Sisters are COGIC and Michelle Bachmann is more LGBT tolerant than the Church of God in Christ. But, Karen Clark Sheard has actually performed at Gay Clubs and has publicly spoken of having gay pals, and somebody affiliated with COGIC eventually had to.

Baby steps. COGIC. Baby steps.

I always have thought that Elbernita "Twinkie" Clark was the gospel equivalent of Stevie Wonder. There is nothing she cannot do musically, really. Quite the talent.

by Anonymousreply 2312/06/2011

My all-time favorite reformed christian singer - RAY BOLTZ!! He was a huge christian singer, came out in his 50s, and has the most wonderful album out with songs he wrote after coming out. If you've ever watched Mark Lowry's web videos, he toured with one guy that was over the top (ala Paul Lynde). Can't remember his name, but he made me cringe (because he was a buffoon).

Mark Lowry. Stan Whitmire (brilliant gospel pianist) is probably gay (toured with Lowry). Roy Webb (piano player for Ernie Haase) was rumored to have been fired because he was gay. I went to a Gaither concert and was cruised by Ryan Seaton who was also fired by Ernie a year or so later. Michael Hopper. Kirk Talley (they did a GQ article on him).

THese guys have great talent - but I have to say it's time they stop supporting the industry that doesn't support them. Gaither and Lowry were "crucified" for taking a picture with the lesbian who wrote one of the most popular christian songs of the 70s. They capitulated and issued statements acknowledging homosexuality as a sin.

I used to find comfort in southern gospel - until one day I realized how depressing it is. It's all "I am not worthy" and "I am nothing" and "my life is filled with shame". Seriously sad shit. Their concerts are nothing but sales events. The singers all run up to their tables before and after the concert to sell their CDs, their T-shirts, and their autographs. They make money off of people's fear and superstition.

I read Dawkins' book, THe God Delusion, and have been an extremely happy atheist ever since.

by Anonymousreply 2612/06/2011

[quote]He's not really necessarily Gospel but everyone knew that Luther Vandross was gay albeit closeted.

Then, we might as well do a general "who's gay?" thread. Just keep on topic, it's not that hard.

by Anonymousreply 2812/06/2011

Guy Penrod has, like, ten kids, and he's never pinged to me, but with the long hair and killer looks, it'd be cool if he was "family"

by Anonymousreply 3012/06/2011

Ryan Seaton = MARY!

by Anonymousreply 3112/06/2011

Dennis Jernigan self-identifies as ex-gay and is married with nine kids. I wonder who he's trying to convince.

by Anonymousreply 3312/06/2011

Clara Ward had female lovers. Rev. James Cleveland died from AIDS-related complications, but they covered it up. I was in boot camp with a guy who said that Rev. Cleveland hit on him.

by Anonymousreply 3412/06/2011

Guy Penrod doesn't look that great in person. No muscle tone and a pear shaped body.

For a while, the Gaither Vocal Band and Ernie Haase Signature Sound had the sexiest guys in southern gospel. Marshall Hall, Wes Hampton (yummy and pings like crazy), Doug Anderson, Ryan Seaton...very enjoyable to watch. Ernie Haase kinda' gives off the gay vibe, too - and from the concerts I've seen him in - he has a rather large "church member."

David Phelps is not very good looking - but man that voice is seriously one of the most amazing ever.

by Anonymousreply 3512/06/2011

You know I did hear that about Shirley Caeser. Are there any male gospel singers who aren't gay? The gays gave birth to gospel music. I went to church for the first time in forever this past Easter and I could count the number of straight men on one hand ( and I wasn't even all that sure about them).

by Anonymousreply 3812/07/2011

Wes Hampton is a cutie, R35.

by Anonymousreply 4212/09/2011

Are they really anti gay r43? They have a new reality show coming, I guess we'll find out.

by Anonymousreply 4412/09/2011


by Anonymousreply 4512/09/2011

Isn't the Gospel World like the largest closet this side of the college of Cardinals?

by Anonymousreply 4612/09/2011

[quote]Didn't some of the Winans record some stupid anti-gay song several years ago?

"It Ain't Natural"

by Anonymousreply 5012/09/2011

None of these people are gay.

by Anonymousreply 5112/14/2011

R29, please elaborate on Donnie McClurkin's upbringing. Perhaps then I can develop some compassion for the self loathing hypocrite.

by Anonymousreply 5212/14/2011

Don't worry Majic Mountain, Carman or Carmen is Queen and Vestal was a man!

What a great cast for the next Victor/Victoria!

by Anonymousreply 5301/21/2012

Tom Netherton (Lawrence Welk Show) always preferred to sing Gospel music in his concerts. He pings off the charts.

by Anonymousreply 5702/24/2012


A lot of folks have been saying the same thing about Cece Winans for years...any other info on her and her dipping into the lady pond??? i have been following her music and preaching and she talks about homosexuality ALOT. Maybe that is her subconcious talking.

by Anonymousreply 5803/09/2012

There are so many queens in Southern Gospel it isn't funny. I know thsi thread is kinda dead but ever hear about NQC/National Quartet Convention(or National Queer Convention as my bf and I like to call it.? There are guys that plan a vacation to pick up dick there. Email me any interested parties to I'd love to call a few kettles black.

by Anonymousreply 6004/18/2012

[quote]This entire discussion is absurd. You're nothing but a gossiping bunch of pitiful big-mouths.

Yes, well, that's what people generally do on a GAY GOSSIP SITE, you fucking moron.

by Anonymousreply 6508/22/2012

[quote] Wasn't made to fit.

Oh, it fits, baby. It fits juuuust fine. Bend over and I'll show you.

by Anonymousreply 6608/22/2012

Don't forget David Maddux! He is the principal arranger for First Call, and former lead guitarist for Sandi Patty! He has been with his partner for 20 years.

by Anonymousreply 6710/27/2012

[quote]Cece Winans has always given me a lesbian vibe. I think she and Whitney did the do.

Yeah I always got the impression that CeCe and Whitney were friends with benefits.

Not technically gospel, but any rumors about Patti LaBelle?

by Anonymousreply 6810/27/2012


by Anonymousreply 6910/29/2012

Hunky long-haired Guy Penrod's gotta wife and a passel of kids, but with those looks and that last name...

by Anonymousreply 7010/30/2012

mike tait isn't just hasn't married yet. he's dated several girls. toby of course married. kids. etc. kirk talley was/is who knows. the blonde guy from the group who sings testify to love is. jennifer knapp is all i have for now carmen has never been married and i wonder when/if he will come out. . .

by Anonymousreply 7111/22/2012

That is one prodigious beehive that Sister Vestal is sporting at R41.

by Anonymousreply 7312/29/2012

[quote]There are three gay Winans that I know of.

That's interesting, because I know some people who got asked to leave a funeral for a coworker at Perfecting Church in Detroit. The deceased was a gay man who left his wife and kids for his lover. The family bizarrely assumed that the coworkers were part of his sinful "lifestyle" and told them they weren't welcome there.

Anthony Heilbut's The Fan Who Knew Too Much is worth the cover price for the chapter on gays in the Pentecostal church. Fascinating.

by Anonymousreply 7412/29/2012

Jenny Followell

by Anonymousreply 7612/29/2012

As soon as I saw the title on this thread, I thought of Tom Netherton.

by Anonymousreply 7812/29/2012

I understand Bishop Yvette Flunder of San Francisco is a lesbian. I don't know much about her. She is a great gospel singer. She sings with Chanticleer on their Gospel CD "How Sweet the Sound". Her take on "There is a Balm in Gilead", an old spiritual is one of my favorite performances. I listen to it over and over. I am not a Christian, just like gospel. Jessye Norman and Kathleen Battle did a gospel CD that I also listen to frequently.

by Anonymousreply 7912/29/2012

Wow, this has been an interesting thread to read. Who knew? Guess I wish more would come out but it took me a long time to feel comfortable in my own skin...and I don't have a Gospel career to worry about.

It does make me listen to these songs with a new understanding and frankly for all those who are out...I want to go buy their CD to show support.

by Anonymousreply 8012/30/2012

this is a stupid website and whoever made this is gay themself

by Anonymousreply 8102/05/2013

[R81] Gosh, it was a great website until you came along. WTF are you doing here?

by Anonymousreply 8202/13/2013

Before you jump on someone's post here, no one is saying that just because someone may or may not be gay that it means their heart wasn't in the music. All that is being said or speculated was whether or not that person is gay.

The important thing is not their sexuality - the important thing is if the message they are singing is coming from the heart. I frankly don't care with whom they go to bed.

Will God punish me for loving - or you for hating?

by Anonymousreply 8302/23/2013

I have heard that Yvette Flunder of the Oakland area is gay. She is a gospel singer and preacher. Here is her singing "There is a Balm in Gilleand" with the male vocal group Chanticlear.

She sings other songs on one of Chanticlears albums.

by Anonymousreply 8405/12/2013

[quote]Brothers and Sisters in Christ, I give you .... CARMAN!

I'd tap that.

by Anonymousreply 8505/12/2013

I cast my vote for Tom Netherton, too.

by Anonymousreply 8605/14/2013

Amy Grant?

by Anonymousreply 8705/14/2013

Gospel is made for religiously repressed gays.

Do you know how gospel choirs learn a song? By Rote. No sheet music is needed because none of the fuckers sight read. Each part is practiced individually over and over again while the whole group waits. It's why each choir has a repertoire of maybe eight songs.

There is plenty of time to do what you want while second sopranos (always flat second sopranos) learn their part.

by Anonymousreply 8906/19/2013

Does anyone know what Tom Netherton is up to these days? I've googled him and everything seems to stop about 2006. Retired to Palm Springs? Never any mention of a wife and/or kids.

by Anonymousreply 9006/19/2013

[quote]mark lowry is not gay

Mark Lowry is the gayest gay who ever gayed. How can anyone with functioning eyes and ears mistake him for anything other than gay?

I'm sure he's filled with the kind of conflict and shame that only religion can impose on a person. And I'm sure he turns it all over to Jesus and tries to live a pure life. But that boy is G.A.Y. gay.

by Anonymousreply 9410/04/2013

A lot of these pretty boy singers suddenly get married in their 30's when the rumors get too hot and heavy.

by Anonymousreply 9610/04/2013

I cast a vote for Tom Netherton and Mark Lowry.

Great voices, Phelps, Penrod, Marshall Hall, Wes Hampton, Sandy Patty even, Jason Crab...and his twin brothers!!

by Anonymousreply 9810/18/2013

I am a fan of the great singer Yvette Flunder of Oakland California. I think she is gay.

by Anonymousreply 9910/18/2013

I guess I am somewhat of a closeted Gaither Homecoming Friends fan, especially the old ones with Vestal and Howard, Jake, Eva Mae, The Speers and some of the old members of various groups like the Statesmen and the Catherdals. I have always loved Sue Dodge and her energy.

I have NEVER and WILL NEVER take a liking to Bill Gaither. I think he is bright composer, producer and probably a megamillionaire, but I think he is a fake. I saw somewhere he is very clean, but I do appreciate what he does.

I once contacted the Gaither Cruises to see where they stood on gays being on the cruise. Their reply was not good at all.

I must admit a guilty pleasure I recently subscribed to the Gaither Network, and must say I have watched a lot, especially the older ones.

by Anonymousreply 10011/02/2013

Live and let live, I am sure your sins are just the same, get over it and move on people

by Anonymousreply 10111/06/2013

Carmen was very close to Carlton Pearson. I always thought they were a little too close. Always hanging out together, sitting together in the Church. Then Carolton married Gina. Boom! Carmen moved to Nashville and I never saw him around that church again! Carmen was always very cocky like he was better than everyone else. Not a christian type personality at all. I believe Carmen has HIV.

by Anonymousreply 10211/10/2013

This discussion seems to be a gossip web site. Can't you people find anything better to do? Shame on you!!!

by Anonymousreply 10411/16/2013

Comments on this site appear to be mostly opinion which to me is nothing more than gossip. Can't you people find anything better to do than talk about others? Shame on you!

by Anonymousreply 10511/16/2013

I used to watch those programs and think that at least 1/2 dozen of the guys in the bleacher seats singing along had to be homos. In fact, I used to tune into that program just to get a glimpse of them each week as I kinda developed a lil' crush on one or two of them. Lol.

by Anonymousreply 10611/30/2013

Whether there are gay singers, or gay friendly singers on the Gaither Gospel show is not for us to judge. This is between them and God, and if God says it okay if they are Christians, then that is God's decsion. We uare not the JUDGE and shouldn't . No I am not gay or a lesbian and I grew up thinks or being taught that all gay and lesbians were headed for hell. And, you cannot tell by looks. After I have gotten to know some gay people, who are fine people, and honest, etc. I have decided not to judge that decison. From the study of psychology, you learn that decision, but are born that way. That leave this between God and the gay and lesbians. God knows the hearts so much better than we ever could..


by Anonymousreply 10712/21/2013

If you want to post something about someone, please don't sign it annomous. Write you name and let people know how you feel. Don't be a coward if you are going to do God's job and judge people, at least sign your name.

by Anonymousreply 10812/21/2013

Ms. Steve Green

by Anonymousreply 10912/27/2013

[quote] The people that created this site are either homosexual or very interested in the homosexual lifestyle.

No shit, Sherlock! So...what brings YOU here, then? Are you gay? Or very interested in the homosexual lifestyle?

[quote] Gay people need to be prayed for and be allowed to hear the True Word of God and the Good News. All your accusations and gossip is as sinful and being homosexual. Sin is Sin ... all equal. No sin is any bigger than another.

Fuck off, cunt.

by Anonymousreply 11112/29/2013

What about the ultimate pin-up boy of the gospel world -- Michael W. Smith? Very chummy with the Repubs, actually considers "Frothy" Santorum as a "friend" (talk about closet cases).

by Anonymousreply 11212/30/2013

How did the loons find us?

See, this is why I never link to DL on other sites.

by Anonymousreply 11501/09/2014

I love that the Gaither devotees have found us and decided to join our little gang.

Don't tell them this is a gay site. They post some pretty funny shit.

by Anonymousreply 11702/06/2014

r116 I have no idea what to say about Donnie McClurkin. He endured horrific sexual and emotional abuse as a child, so I guess if that what he needs to tell himself at night to sleep, then oh well.

I asked on the AA DLers thread if there were any people that listened to Tonex here. He is an openly gay, former gospel artist. He is a very talented guy and has created a pretty interesting genre of music

by Anonymousreply 11802/06/2014

The first chapter of Anthony Heilbut's last book, all about the much-derided "children" in the black Pentecostal church is fascinating. The Aretha chapter that follows it is great too.

by Anonymousreply 11902/06/2014

i think marshall hall who sang with the gaither vocal band for a while is gay. he always has to touch the other guy when he's singing .he dresses gay and check out his hair in the videos with ssiganture sound . i know he;s married but a lot of the gay and lesbian singers do get married to cover up thier lifestyles.

by Anonymousreply 12004/04/2014

Not Carmen! CARMAN, for God's sake.

by Anonymousreply 12104/04/2014

The loons are so hilarious I can't tell if their messages are parodies.

I grew up watching the 700 Club. GAY!

by Anonymousreply 12204/04/2014

Closer to thee.

by Anonymousreply 12404/04/2014


by Anonymousreply 12704/21/2014

Michael W. Smith is bi. And hung.

by Anonymousreply 12905/30/2014

ALL the organists.

by Anonymousreply 13005/30/2014

[quote]Quit the slander when you don't know what you are talking about.

NO! YOU quit the slander!!!!!

There is nothing slanderous about being gay or thinking someone else may be gay, R128. Take your God-dammed Fundie KKKristian 'tude and return to your fellow hate-mongers back in Freeperville.

by Anonymousreply 13105/30/2014

Get lost you homophobic cunt at r128.

This ia a gay and lesbian site.

by Anonymousreply 13205/30/2014

Are the "how darez U slander the right-chuss!!!!1" replies on this thread for real? Like, for REAL, real? I can't believe there's people who actually talk like that.

Anyway, my vote is Vicki Yohe. She posts the worst homophobic shit on her Instagram account. The type of person who rails against something so much, you just KNOW they are so deep in the closet, they're crapping mothballs.

Personally, I found this site by googling "is mark lowry gay". I like him as a person and once in the late 90s he thrilled teenage me by featuring me in one of his "reMarkable" newsletters.

But as I got older, I was so sad to see the type of institutions and politicians some of my favorite Christian/gospel artists aligned themselves with. I used to be a huge MWS fan. (By the by- don't think he is gay nor bi) But no more. And I STILL love tobymac's music...but lately every time I listen, I have the thought "he likes and respects Falwell. He LIKES and RESPECTS Falwell" running through my head.

I just really don't know where it all came from. Even if one were to agree with the school of thought that being gay is an "abomination" cannot disregard the other scriptural "abominations"; in the same chapter where homosity is named as abominable to god, so is "men who cut their beard hair". I mean seriously. Where are the protests about beard trimmers not being able to get married or adopt in certain states? It's asinine.

There has long been a proliferation of gay rumors in the southern gospel arena. In this particular scenario, I feel that yes- where's there's smoke, there's big flaming fire. What a shame so many feel they cannot show their true selves even as they worship a god who loves them as much as the next guy.

by Anonymousreply 13409/07/2014

it has been rumored for years that lanny wolfe is gay. and it is my inclination to believe it. he always surrounded himself with young attractive bible-school guys, traveling about the country and sharing hotel rooms with them. his ultimate undoing, as i understand it, came as a result of an encounter with an underage male in a public restroom. somehow he managed to avoid serious legal consequences but it destroyed his marriage. his wife, marietta, was said to be on the verge of divorcing him several times throughout their marriage but when this incident happened, she promptly divorced him and moved back to ohio where she married an african-american minister she had known and dated before marrying lanny. lanny now lives in houston. also, many people (myself included) believe andrae crouch and his twin sister, sandra, are both gay. other names that come to mind, as previously stated, are mark lowry and his pianist, stan whitmire and also jake hess from the gather videos. (don't know if he is even still alive)

by Anonymousreply 13510/15/2014

Reject mindless religious morality, it's meant to weaken you.

by Anonymousreply 13610/15/2014

Who cares! Live & let live!

by Anonymousreply 13710/16/2014

So what if Mark or anyone else is gay! Live & let live I am a woman who loves Mark Lowry, but not looking for a husband! He is a wonderful, Godly man! Judge & be judged! It is not ours to judge! Mark has probably brought more people to God, than half the so called preachers! It is nobody's business, besides Mark's & God's!

by Anonymousreply 13810/16/2014

Michael tait asked my friend for a picture message of his junk while we were on tour with them... I'm not naming the band/bands but there is definitely something not right about Tait.

by Anonymousreply 13911/14/2014

I heard the clark sister that left the group was gay? Is that true?

by Anonymousreply 14001/28/2015

huh, Greg Long? set my gaydar off a lot.

by Anonymousreply 14203/14/2015

Repent all you sodomites if you dont you will burn in hell forever!!!

by Anonymousreply 14304/24/2015

All gAudra

by Anonymousreply 14405/25/2015

All gAudra

by Anonymousreply 14505/25/2015

Jesus said He came for the sick. A lot of these people lived straight lives until they started listening to the lies of the Devil saying it is not wrong to be in love with who you love. God is very clear that there will be no homosexuals, drunks, prostitusts, people living together having a sexual relationship. There is a lot more but I don't have my Bible next to me. Jesus said to come follow Him and to take up our cross everyday. We are not suppose to follow after our own flesh but we are to deny it and followe after Jesus and if we trust in Him and believe everything He says we shall be set free of our sins. He covered them on the cross. But we must love all pleople and pray for their sins to turh from them. Jesus said go and sin nomore

by Anonymousreply 14605/26/2015

Mary (Magdalene)!

by Anonymousreply 14705/26/2015

Jesus never spoke out against gays. Jesus never said that marriage could only be for a male and female. With all the gay men at his table, he surely had some good times with them.

by Anonymousreply 14805/26/2015

Carman has been married , but it was not publicized because she used him to get a lot of stuff and left him. He shared that wih his members on his website. The good news of the gospel is not that you have to change to be good enough to be saved from being seperated from God.. It is that no one can be good enough. Gay or straight, to be saved. That is why Jesus died for anyone who would trust in His sacrifice for all of our sin. If He wants you changed, he can change you. But He loves you where you are, right now. Please give Him a chance, please choose to trust Him, even if you don't trust those who follow him..

by Anonymousreply 14905/30/2015

I've always heard that Mark Lowery was gay. My former boyfriend, who is in the southern gospel industry, says it is the worst kept secret in southern gospel.

I know Ray Boltz and speak with him often. While he has never named names, he confirms there are several well-known southern gospel singers who are gay. He understands that they don't come out because of the money they make. He doesn't criticize them because he came out only after he had retired and left the business.

by Anonymousreply 15003/30/2016
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