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Christina Onassis

Let's talk about her. Her Wikipedia entry is surprisingly sparse. Couldn't she have had a happier life?

by Anonymousreply 136August 5, 2018 12:55 PM

She always looks sad, even after getting hitched to the hot guy.

by Anonymousreply 1September 18, 2011 3:49 AM

oops, or are we talking about the daughter, that is who I was talking about..Athina?

sorry.

by Anonymousreply 2September 18, 2011 3:50 AM

I just remember when I was a kid, I would read The Enquirer and Star magazine at my gradparents house, and there were always articles about her weight. I could never figure out why she was getting so much attention.

by Anonymousreply 3September 18, 2011 3:54 AM

Lived in the shadow of her classically beautiful mother. Deeply resented her glamourous, beautiful, internationally famous stepmother, as well as her father's string of beautiful and glamourous mistresses (Maria Callas included).

Unfortunately took after her father in the looks department. Tried to fix it with plastic surgery, but it didn't work.

Deeply insecure, neurotic and self-destructive.

by Anonymousreply 4September 18, 2011 4:05 AM

Are the Onassises still rich?

by Anonymousreply 5September 18, 2011 4:08 AM

Christina and Jackie:

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by Anonymousreply 6September 18, 2011 4:10 AM

Garbo with Christina's mother - were they involved?

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by Anonymousreply 7September 18, 2011 4:15 AM

Someone claimed to know that when Christina had a new man she wanted to impress, she would pay Jackie a visit with him in tow- and this was both while Ari Onassis was alive and and AFTER he was dead.

Much was made of the hostility Christina had for Jackie, nevertheless, I find the foregoing info believable.

by Anonymousreply 8September 18, 2011 4:20 AM

How did Christina (and Alexander) get along with John-John and Caroline? Did they (and Jackie) have anything to do with little Athina when Christina died?

by Anonymousreply 9September 18, 2011 4:33 AM

Cunt!

by Anonymousreply 10September 18, 2011 4:33 AM

She had to live with the burden of knowing that her father had paid for RFK to be assassinated.

by Anonymousreply 11September 18, 2011 4:37 AM

She seemed so utterly miserable - even with all that money.

Maybe it was the money that made her miserable? Or brought miserable men into her life?

by Anonymousreply 12September 18, 2011 4:38 AM

Fae skata kai psofa re malaka, step-mommie dearest.

by Anonymousreply 13September 18, 2011 4:40 AM

Never heard that before, r11. Any credible links?

I remember a mini-series on Onassis a while back ... it included a brief gay relationship he was supposed to have in his youth.

by Anonymousreply 14September 18, 2011 4:41 AM

Christina hated the golddigging Jackie O--and rightfully so.

by Anonymousreply 15September 18, 2011 4:43 AM

She was miserable because her father was a monster and her mother was an evil slut.

Neither of them gave a shit about her and never spent any time with her.

by Anonymousreply 16September 18, 2011 4:44 AM

Christina needed a proper upbringing.

by Anonymousreply 17September 18, 2011 4:47 AM

R14: Read the book Nemesis for the RFK info. It is well sourced.

Onassis told people that he survived the invasion of the Turks by becoming a boy lover to an officer in the Turkish army. He had other liaisons with males in his youth.

by Anonymousreply 18September 18, 2011 4:49 AM

Big old randy bush. Could chow down on it for hours. Tasted like feta cheese and bra be que lamb.

Divine.

by Anonymousreply 19September 18, 2011 4:53 AM

[quote]Are the Onassises still rich?

The only one left is Christina's daughter Athina, who now lives with her husband in Sao Paulo and yes, is super-rich.

by Anonymousreply 20September 18, 2011 4:54 AM

[quote]Much was made of the hostility Christina had for Jackie, nevertheless, I find the foregoing info believable.

Della, what makes this "friend of a friend of a friend" source believable?

by Anonymousreply 21September 18, 2011 4:55 AM

Della, how was Ms. Tanya?

by Anonymousreply 22September 18, 2011 4:59 AM

"...and her mother was an evil slut."

Christina girl, we may be kindred souls!

by Anonymousreply 23September 18, 2011 5:02 AM

Iirc, r21, the source for that little nugget of info is Leticia "Tish" Baldridge, Jackie's long-time social secretary.

by Anonymousreply 24September 18, 2011 5:03 AM

r22, she was very good. Her voice, of course isn't as strong as it used to be. She wore form-fitting black leather pants a black shirt with mesh detailing on the back.

My, Tucker is a round, petite, little thing.

She let her daughter Presley Tucker sing way too much.

by Anonymousreply 25September 18, 2011 5:08 AM

Christina hated Jackie. Christina stopped her father's the funeral profession when Teddy Kennedy brought up money right there in the car. Jackie let him do the dirty work. Christina thought the two of them were complete trash. She got out of the car refused to ride with either of them.

by Anonymousreply 26September 18, 2011 5:09 AM

It was not amicable between Jackie and Ari near the end, mostly because Christina had convinced him that Jackie was not as pristine as Jackie liked everyone to believe. She was supposed to have played upon their inherent Greek superstitions and convinced Ari that Jackie had a curse upon her which led to all the men in her lives dying tragic deaths.

by Anonymousreply 27September 18, 2011 5:12 AM

I'm glad to hear you had a nice time, Della! Presley? I need to do my research. Be well, Della.

...back to Tina's troubles.

by Anonymousreply 28September 18, 2011 5:14 AM

"She had to live with the burden of knowing that her father had paid for RFK to be assassinated. Read the book Nemesis for the RFK info. It is well sourced."

The book clearly states that Onassis found out his money funded the RFK assassination. He didn't pay anyone to kill RFK. In the late 60's there were a bunch of airline hijackings going on and he paid the hijacker people or dude to not hijack Olympic airlines. Somehow these people are tied to Sirhan Sirhan - Crap it's been awhile since i read the book and i'm drinking so it's a bit fuzzy. But i do remember that he felt bad that paying these people off also funded the RFK assassination... and confessed this to some woman friend of his while she visited him on his island Scorpios.

by Anonymousreply 29September 18, 2011 6:38 AM

Isn't R1/R2 wonderful? Oh, are we talking about what the OP is not talking about? Gosh R1, are we?

by Anonymousreply 30September 18, 2011 7:28 AM

Christina suffered from being "raised" by a mother who found her too plain and too much like her father in looks. Christina's mother preferred her son by Onassis, and favored him constantly. Christina's mother was vain, childish, spoiled, and very busy getting it on with young hunks to pay her Greek shipping tycoon hubby back for his own constant infidelities. Money can't make up for lack of nurturing in the formative years; people still self-destruct when they don't have that nurturing - rich or not.

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by Anonymousreply 33September 18, 2011 10:11 AM

That's what happens when you only let your daughters mingle with the same ¨class¨ people. Super rich people tend to be extremely selfish and worthless....

If I were a super rich guy with a young daughter I would send her ¨incognito¨ to a community college and let her pick a hard-working, honest man as a mate.

by Anonymousreply 34September 18, 2011 10:34 AM

Christina’s mother literally hated her daughter, and could not believe she gave birth to something so ugly. Christina's mother was extremely beautiful, and she belittled her daughter for being ugly many times. Her father was never ever around and left his children on their own. Christina grew up with extreme wealth. When she was in school, she wanted a coke- a-cola machine placed in the classroom and sure enough her father did just that. Christina was a lowed to drink coke-a cola whenever she wanted to in class. Christina loved and drank coke so much that she drank it by the caseload. She could tell you where a particular bottle of coke was bottled, and more just by drinking the particular bottle of coke. Her mother had Christian Dior design clothes for Christian's dolls so Christina would learn how to dress fashionably. When Jackie married Ari, Jackie went up to Christina and said, you know dear, we can do something about your hair and clothes. Christina told Jackie to get lost because she was a daughter of a billionaire and if she wanted anything done anything was accessible to her.

Christina suffered from extreme low self esteem because of her looks. There was a point that she didn't care about taking care of herself and let her teeth rot. She was a sex addict who desperately craved attention from men to find her sexually desirable. She paid men to have sex with her and she wanted very badly to be dominated by men. She loved Polo players because she said they were manly and so many of them were super good looking. Men used her right and left .She engaged in orgies to make a couple of boyfriends happy, and she even dyed her hair blond at one point because one of her boyfriends said she was too ugly and preferred blonds. So, she dyed her hair blond and came back to him ready to have sex. When they were ready to have sex, he saw her public hairs and he refused to have sex with her because her pubic hairs were dark. So, she went back to the hair salon and had her pubic hairs dyed blond. The guy was then willing to consider having sex with her. Her husband, who is the father of her daughter Athena, dumped her because he had a Swedish mistress through out Christian’s marriage to him. She begged him not to leave her and played him $20,00 a night to stay and have sex with her but he refused because he said he couldn’t take her ugliness anymore. She begged him to have one more with her to give Athena a brother or a sister but he refused. He said, I have a gorgeous Swedish mistress waiting for me, and I don't want to have anything to do with you.

Christina moved to New York where her father’s company was located. She had to learn the business quickly and she was a quick learner. Also, she ran her fathers business to the point she became an extremely savvy businesswoman. When living in New York, She would pick up men from Studio 54 randomly and take them home to have sex with them. The owner of Studio 54 told Christina to have as much sex as you would like because this is an open field for anything goes.

Christina's mother's death was very questionable, and Christina’s death was very questionable as well. Two weeks before Christina died her money grubbing ex- husband drove her over the edge to change the will to leave the 4 Billion dollar fortune to her daughter when Athena turned 21 years old. Christina felt very badly because she wanted some money to go to various people out of kindness like family, friends, and loyal people who worked for her who were good to her. But, her ex- husband had a way to manipulate Christina to leave everything to their daughter. Athena’s father tried to take control over his daughter’s will when Christina died, but what he didn't realize, was that in the will, Christina left instructions for a very loyal board in Greece to make sure they watch out for her daughter's fortune. Also in the will, Christina paid her ex- husband 1 million dollars a year to take care of their daughter. But that wasn't good enough, he wanted full control over his daughter's estate, but the board wouldn't allow

by Anonymousreply 35September 18, 2011 11:36 AM

R29: I don't think you remember the book very well. I just finished it, so I am at an advantage.

The book makes it clear that the hijacking threat was used as a cover for channeling money to America to pay for the murder of Bobby Kennedy.

There had been an extortion attempt by Palestinian. But the amount paid for exceeded the amount demanded, which made Olympic Airlines execs curious. In the interim, Onassis had befriended the Palestinian extortionist. They were seen dining together many times.

Sirhan Sirhan's notebooks contained the names of Onansis' three greatest enemies, with the words "MUST KILL" next to them.

Bobby Kennedy was a enemy ever since he had Onassis's tankers impounded in the 50s and had criminal charges brought against him. He was also blocking Jackie's marriage to Onassis because he thought it would hurt his presidential chances. Onassis also hated him because he was sleeping with Jackie and Jackie had told Onassis that Bobby was the only man she "would put her hand through the flames for."

by Anonymousreply 36September 18, 2011 3:22 PM

[quote]Iirc, [R21], the source for that little nugget of info is Leticia "Tish" Baldridge, Jackie's long-time social secretary

Less than three years; that's not long time.

by Anonymousreply 37September 18, 2011 3:30 PM

[quote]Couldn't she have had a happier life?

How so? She's ugly and had a lousy father and a mother just like her (ugly and depressed). How do you make lemonade out of those lemons.

Maybe plastic surgery I suppose. Still would have had gold-diggers and users lining up at her door.

by Anonymousreply 38September 18, 2011 3:37 PM

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by Anonymousreply 39September 18, 2011 4:02 PM

Am I the only one who thinks Christina Onassis was not ugly? She was not pretty, but hardy the hideous creature people describe. I bet she would have aged into an interesting looking older woman. And if she was able to run her father's business she must have had a few brain cells between her ears. Too bad she was so fucked up.

by Anonymousreply 40September 18, 2011 4:11 PM

"Am I the only one who thinks Christina Onassis was not ugly?"

I don't think she was ugly at all. She could have looked fabulous had she wanted to. Not like a supermodel, but most men and women don't look like that.

by Anonymousreply 41September 18, 2011 4:32 PM

She was also a bitch on wheels. Men didn't want to be with her, not just for her lack of looks, but because she was very unpleasant, foul mouthed and vulgar.

One of the reasons why she attracted golddiggers is because she would never shut up about her father's wealth. She was terribly insecure and thought the only way she could get people to like her was to beat them over the head with her bank account.

Sad, really.

by Anonymousreply 42September 18, 2011 4:36 PM

[quote]Am I the only one who thinks Christina Onassis was not ugly? She was not pretty, but hardy the hideous creature people describe.

I think she looks quite stunning in this pic...

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by Anonymousreply 43September 18, 2011 4:52 PM

Money, looks, talent don't guarantee self esteem.

by Anonymousreply 44September 18, 2011 5:11 PM

[quote]She could have looked fabulous had she wanted to. Not like a supermodel, but most men and women don't look like that.

Agree. Here are some more pics of Christina. She had striking eyes. With the right make-up she could look great.

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by Anonymousreply 45September 18, 2011 5:25 PM

I don't think she was ugly at all. In some of those pictures she even looks downright stunning.

I know in her later years when she became a recluse she become morbidly obese but in her younger years she really wasn't that bad.

by Anonymousreply 46September 18, 2011 5:51 PM

Any good books on her?

by Anonymousreply 47September 18, 2011 6:13 PM

R40 I think that the media viewed her in the light of her mother's beauty and nothing more. She was far from hideous!

I am linking to a picture of her parents from way back in the day. You will see what I mean.

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by Anonymousreply 48September 18, 2011 7:21 PM

People love shitting on women's looks, justified or not. It's pretty bizarre the pleasure some seem to derive from that.

by Anonymousreply 49September 18, 2011 9:07 PM

She was in the shadow of her beautiful mother, and then stuck in the shadow of an even more impossibly glamourous stepmother.

by Anonymousreply 50September 18, 2011 9:22 PM

I agree. She was not ugly by any stretch of the imagination, but if you remember the standard of beauty during that time - thin, blond, California-girl, all natural. You can see why she didn't fit in.

By today's standards, she would have been fine.

by Anonymousreply 51September 18, 2011 10:04 PM

Agree r51.

by Anonymousreply 52September 18, 2011 10:41 PM

She was striking in a strong-featured, Liza sort of way. Her real tragedy was probably not having any gays in her life to help her maximize her assets.

by Anonymousreply 53September 18, 2011 10:47 PM

[quote]Her real tragedy was probably not having any gays in her life to help her maximize her assets.

John-John tried but his mother kept panicking and sending him to Martha's Vinyard to rape female townies with his cousins.

by Anonymousreply 54September 18, 2011 10:53 PM

True that, R53.

by Anonymousreply 55September 18, 2011 10:57 PM

CHristina wasn’t ugLy, but she did look Greek, and her nordic-appearing Greek mother didn’t. Was Christina a self-loathing Greek? Was her mother?

by Anonymousreply 56September 18, 2011 11:05 PM

[quote]Was Christina a self-loathing Greek?

Athina seems to be, I can't blame her, really.

by Anonymousreply 57September 18, 2011 11:13 PM

Maybe Christina got her revenge in the long run since her daughter is estranged from her husband.

by Anonymousreply 58September 19, 2011 1:12 AM

Was she close with John-John and Caroline?

by Anonymousreply 59September 19, 2011 1:20 AM

She's a prime example of how money cannot buy happiness.

She was unloved by her mother. She was loved by her father, but her brother was favored over her. While not exactly ugly, she was quite plain, especially in the eyes of her beautiful mother. She and her brother were raised by nannies and other paid help. They had everything in the world except the attention of their parents.

She was never "stuck in the shadow of an even more impossibly glamorous step-mother." She had Jackie never associated with each other and had nothing to do with each other. She hated Jackie Kennedy, but not because she was jealous. She hated her because she knew Jackie for the golddigging snot that she was. Onassis was planning to divorce Jackie, but died before he could do it. While her husband was on his deathbed, Jackie was traipsing around Europe, going to bullfights and getting her hair done. At his funeral she was shunned by her husband's family members and pushed to the back of the funeral procession. After Onassis's death, Jackie was pissed at how little he left her in his will (actually he left her a lot but it wasn't enough for her). She was prepared to go to court for a long battle, but Christina paid her off, giving her a hefty settlement just to get rid of her. Supposedly she told Jackie: "I hope I never have to lay eyes on you again."

In the space of ten years she had lost all her immediate family members: mother, brother, father.

She led the life of the idle rich; she had no real interests, no purpose or goals in life other than to have a man and a good time. She had little education and was not a person with any great depth or intellectual curiosity.

She went from man to man, marriage to marriage. Her last husband Thierry Roussell, is a douchebag of immense proportions. While married to her he fathered two children with his gorgeous blonde mistress. Rousell, like Jackie, married for money. Like father, like daughter.

Probably the only thing that ever gave her any happiness was the birth of her daughter Athina.

by Anonymousreply 60September 19, 2011 1:21 AM

Onassis greedily bought Jackie because he wanted the privilege she gave him by being American royalty. Jackie greedily accepted. Don't paint Onassis out as a victim. It was a business arrangement from the beginning. No love was involved.

by Anonymousreply 61September 19, 2011 1:42 AM

Like ari Onassis is an american icon. No one under 50 knows who he is

by Anonymousreply 62September 19, 2011 1:50 AM

[quote] She hated Jackie Kennedy, but not because she was jealous. She hated her because she knew Jackie for the golddigging snot that she was.

Doubtful...

She and her brother hated Callas as well. Daddy's attention--which never focused on Christina very long--was diverted by the ladies.

by Anonymousreply 63September 19, 2011 1:54 AM

R63. Christina and Alexander Onassis may have hated Maria Callas; I don't know wbout that. But they hated Jackie because she was a golddigger. They may have hated Callas for another reason.

by Anonymousreply 64September 19, 2011 3:01 AM

They hated Callas, but then when their dad married Jackie they hated her SO much, they begged him to go back to Callas.

Jackie had no interest in them. Neither did Callas, but she at least had the excuse she didn't have children and was not used to them... Jackie was devoted to her own children, so the Onassis kids knew she could have been nice to them had she been interested in trying. But she looked at Onassis only as an ATM.

by Anonymousreply 65September 19, 2011 3:08 AM

One time Christina and Alexander were both drunk driving in their teens ,and were to blamed for a car accident. They had to go to court and they both blamed a little old man that wasn't even involved with the accident when he drove near by the scene. The Onassises were so powerful that the two children got off free, and the old guy got the blame for the accident.

by Anonymousreply 66September 19, 2011 8:31 AM

I've always been fascinated by Christina's mother, Athina. She not only married Onassis but then one of the Churchills, the heir to Blenheim Palace, and then Stavros Niarchos, her own sister's widower. And was her death suspicious or was it a simple drug overdose? She died at a relatively young age.

by Anonymousreply 67September 19, 2011 3:36 PM

"All the Pain that Money Can Buy" is a well-done written, objective biography of her by William Wright. Good beach book.

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by Anonymousreply 68September 19, 2011 3:56 PM

What was Athina Onassis' (Cristina's mother) maiden name? I'd like to Google her and read about her.

by Anonymousreply 69September 19, 2011 4:10 PM

r69, Athina was Stavros Livanos's daughter he was another Greek shipping tycoon.

by Anonymousreply 70September 20, 2011 1:32 AM

Thanks, R69.

by Anonymousreply 71September 20, 2011 1:37 AM

Christina wasn't ugly.

I feel bad for her - so desperate to be wanted - even for her daddy's money. It's fucking sad, really.

I'm glad to hear the younger Athina seems to be doing well.

Maybe she should think about putting her mother's jewelry on display? That would be something to see.

by Anonymousreply 72September 21, 2011 12:55 AM

There is a planned Onassis biopic based on Nemesis. I haven't read that book, does it seem accurate or is it full of conspiracies?

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by Anonymousreply 73October 13, 2011 10:11 PM

bump.

by Anonymousreply 74October 15, 2011 3:25 AM

She and some guy, I think it was her fiancé, came to a party my parents gave. I was fascinated by the fact she would wear a fur stole to a summer party. My sister later informed me she was wearing a shoulderless gown.

by Anonymousreply 75October 15, 2011 3:36 AM

r75 is naughty.

by Anonymousreply 76October 15, 2011 3:49 AM

More please. So Athina is estranged from her father? Is she still close to her step-mother?

by Anonymousreply 77October 15, 2011 4:31 AM

Ok, just looked it up. Athina Livanos married into the Niarchos family? They were COUSINS. Ew!

by Anonymousreply 78October 15, 2011 4:36 AM

[quote]She and some guy,

Christina or Athina?

by Anonymousreply 79October 15, 2011 4:36 AM

R59 From what I've read, she got along well with John Jr., but most people did. One book even went so far as to imply that she may have taken his virginity. It's possible, I suppose. I mean, a teenage boy filled with hormones and stuck on an island...

[quote]She could tell you where a particular bottle of coke was bottled, and more just by drinking the particular bottle of coke.

So could Barbara Hutton. The flavor varies somewhat from country to country, apparently due to the sugar content. Hutton's biographer attributed it to a drug-related thing.

For you Coca-Cola fans, try to get your hands on a bottle of Mexican Coke in the old glass bottles. Locally they sell it at Sam's Club but you have to buy a case. It is made with cane sugar and is better than the US version with HFCS. I don't even like Pepsi but the Pepsi Throwback is quite a bit better. In fact, I can taste more difference between the two Pepsis than I can between the two Cokes.

But back to Christina, she eventually switched to Diet Coke which she had flown in on a private jet at high cost, as it was not yet available abroad.

by Anonymousreply 80October 15, 2011 12:48 PM

Athina Onassis died while married to Stavros Niarchos, who had been married to her sister Eugenie. Eugenie died in very suspicious circumstances years earlier in Niarchos's house. Mysterious suicide note, bruises on the body, doctor not called for hours after she was found unconscious. Big coverup.

Christina Onassis was beside herself when she found out her mother was going to marry the man many regarded as responsible for her aunt's death. They were estranged when Athina died.

Christina may have been a vulgar person but she sure had a horrible life.

by Anonymousreply 81October 15, 2011 1:32 PM

Bump. I'm recently new to Datalounge and needless to say I' m totally hooked. Revenge on ABC tonight was a repeat (very disappointing) so after a few glasses of wine I decided to go on a web crawl to research Sir Henry "Chips" Channon- one of my favourite people from the 20th century. Hats off to anyone who can tell me how I ended up back at DL on the Christina Onassis thread....sort of like 6 degrees of separation, perhaps?

by Anonymousreply 82December 1, 2011 8:02 AM

That's not how we work, r82. We don't play games.

by Anonymousreply 83December 1, 2011 8:38 AM

[R83] In the short two months that I've been looking on here I'd have to disagree with you.

by Anonymousreply 84December 1, 2011 8:49 AM

Oops, sorry- that was my first response where I referred to another responder- not sure how to do it without the double [ ] .

by Anonymousreply 85December 1, 2011 8:53 AM

Bump.

by Anonymousreply 86December 1, 2011 2:48 PM

Take away the hideous glasses and the son was pretty hot

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by Anonymousreply 87December 1, 2011 5:33 PM

For the OP of the new CO thread!

by Anonymousreply 88December 23, 2012 6:14 PM

She hated Jackie because she knew she was a goldigger who was only after her father's money. I also don't get what the big deal about Jackie is. She was ugly and a very cold woman.

by Anonymousreply 89April 6, 2013 3:04 PM

Anna Kenrick could play a young Christina.

by Anonymousreply 90April 6, 2013 3:38 PM

Her Mother became her step aunt as well after marrying Niarchos who was her uncle by virtue of marrying her Mother's sister. Tina Livanos died leaving $250,000,000 which was like 4 billion today. She, unlike Jackie did not need Onassis's money who was in fact considered beneath her by the Livanos family.

by Anonymousreply 91April 6, 2013 4:12 PM

Are there any books to read about Christina's relationship with Jackie?

I recently found this photo of Jackie's driver's license. It's interesting that she dropped Kennedy from her name and went by Jacqueline B Onassis.

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by Anonymousreply 92April 6, 2013 4:50 PM

[quote]Anna Kenrick could play a young Christina.

Anna is way too petite and delicate looking. Part of what made Christina unattractive was she was big boned.

by Anonymousreply 93April 6, 2013 5:32 PM

She looked like Aristotle Onassis in a wig.

by Anonymousreply 94April 6, 2013 9:48 PM

[quote] She hated Jackie because she knew she was a goldigger who was only after her father's money

Do you think anyone was about to marry Aristotle Onassis for the love of that dwarfish, baggy eyed old troll? And do you actually think he married Jackie because he loved her? Their marriage was a contract, jointly entered for mutual benefit. He no only provided Jackie with money, he also supplied her and her children with a private island. It was true what Jackie said about America. "They're killing Kennedys there." Her kids were Kennedys. She wanted them to have a safe haven.

Ari married Jackie to show everyone he was so rich that he could buy the world's most glamorous widow. And she was high born, something that he wasn't.

by Anonymousreply 95April 6, 2013 9:57 PM

[quote]Ari married Jackie to show everyone he was so rich that he could buy the world's most glamorous widow. And she was high born, something that he wasn't.

Maria Callas was another trophy for Ari. And the rich and high-born he invited on his yacht (Churchill, Garbo) were even more trophies.

by Anonymousreply 96April 6, 2013 10:02 PM

[quote]He no only provided Jackie with money, he also supplied her and her children with a private island. It was true what Jackie said about America. "They're killing Kennedys there." Her kids were Kennedys. She wanted them to have a safe haven.

Carline and John jr. continued to live and go to school in N.Y.C. She didn't marry Onassis for protection. Jackie is a lot like her mother, she made up stories.

by Anonymousreply 97April 6, 2013 10:09 PM

Unlike Jackie, who married Ari for the money and security, Callas was passionately in love with him.

It's a terribly written book (and a guilty pleasure), but Jacklyn Susann's novel "Delores" is a thinly veiled account of Jackie's life in NYC as a young widow. Her account of Ari's "courtship" of Jackie (and how her sister Lee basically brokered the deal) is allegedly completely on the mark.

by Anonymousreply 98April 6, 2013 10:10 PM

If R91 is correct, why did Tina marry Onassis?

by Anonymousreply 99April 6, 2013 10:11 PM

Re: Jackie and Ari

Neither one was in love with the other. And they barely saw each other while they were married.

by Anonymousreply 100April 6, 2013 10:18 PM

Why did Christina Onassis hate Jackie for marrying her father for money and not hate her father for marrying Jackie to show his power? Neither party was in love with the other, so why single out just one of them? Talk about a double standard.

by Anonymousreply 101April 6, 2013 10:21 PM

As a woman of a certain age I feel like I am somewhat qualified to share with you young bucks some reasons why Christina felt so ugly. In the late 60's and throughout the 70's the standard of beauty was entirely different from what it is today. The women whose looks were coveted by women and drooled over by men, were Cheryl Tiegs, Farrah, Christie Brinkley, Julie Christie, Goldie Hawn(somewhat) and a boatload of lesser known statuesque blonds. The standard was changed in the 80's when exotic brunettes such as Cindy, Linda, Gia and gasp! even Janice Dickinson changed the entire modeling scene and standard of beauty. Had Christina been 25 in the 80's I believe her "look" could have been improved significantly with various fat surgeries which weren't even available to the rich in the early 70's. That and some good facial work and voila! she would have been quite presentable. But whatcha gonna do when you are big boneded, have a mustache and a face considered more masculine then feminine when the options are limited and no one has heard the words: personal trainer, liposuction or LapBand surgery?? Being as we are the same age, I followed her closely and always was sad for her. Now the jokes on me!! I am the out of style blond Nordic type which is viewed as passe and dated! Plus I am old as dirt.

by Anonymousreply 102April 6, 2013 10:25 PM

People, get a hold of yourselves. This was Christina Onassis. She was no doe-eyed beauty. She wasn't even jolie laide.

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by Anonymousreply 103April 6, 2013 10:32 PM

Chistina, Thierry and Athina

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by Anonymousreply 104April 6, 2013 10:47 PM

Mom and daughter

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by Anonymousreply 105April 6, 2013 10:49 PM

As a little girl. You know that saying "a face only a mother could love". Is not happening here.

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by Anonymousreply 106April 6, 2013 10:52 PM

Alexander did get all the looks in that family

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by Anonymousreply 107April 6, 2013 11:01 PM

Christina wasn't ugly, as an adult she had strong features that could have been attractive if she'd had the self-confidence to present herself as an ugly-duckling-turned-swan. I blame her family, they convinced her she was hopelessly ugly and needed to be desperate.

Ironically, the person who could have taught her how to make the most of her looks was her stepmother Jackie! Jacqueline Bouvier Etc. wasn't a good-looking woman, with her square jaw and wide-set eyes, but she dressed wonderfully and presented herself as a beauty, and everyone bought it.

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by Anonymousreply 108April 6, 2013 11:28 PM

lisa lampanelli should play her in a movie!

by Anonymousreply 109April 7, 2013 12:00 AM

As we all can see, Onassis wasn't tall dark and handsome, still, I believe what I've read about him- that had loads of charisma, that even without formal education he was erudite and that he could be very charmimg.

Of course, I suppose it's easy to see all that in a person if you know he has at least a few hundred million dollars, which,according to the standards of the 50, 60s and 70s, was an unimaginable amount of dough-ray-mee.

At the height of the public outrage at Jackie marrying Onassis, Elizabeth Taylor defended her by saying "I think Jackie made an excellent choice. Ari is charming, smart and lots of fun."

I'll take Taylor's word for it.

by Anonymousreply 110April 7, 2013 2:36 AM

Bump for the Cristina O talk in the Bobbi Kristina thread ... never understood why Athina Onassis married Niarchos if it was believed he killed her sister.

by Anonymousreply 111February 3, 2015 9:02 PM

Her mother delighted in telling her how close she came to aborting her. Her mother constantly harangued her for not being beautiful and slim like her. Her father was too obsessed with his son, who in truth, was beautiful and heir to the fortune. I'm surprised she didn't come out even more fucked up.

by Anonymousreply 112February 3, 2015 10:03 PM

[quote]At the height of the public outrage at Jackie marrying Onassis, Elizabeth Taylor defended her by saying "I think Jackie made an excellent choice. Ari is charming, smart and lots of fun."

Maria Callas praised Jackie's choice as well: “She did well, Jackie, to give a grandfather to her children."

by Anonymousreply 113February 3, 2015 10:18 PM

Thierry Roussel, "hot guy" she married, who a scumbag who fathered children with his Swedish model mistress while married to Christina. He only married Christina for her money. I guess she knew that; she offered him hundreds of thousands of dollars to make her pregnant again, but that didn't happen.

Athina Roussel, the offspring of Christina and Roussel, has something in life to focus on: horses. She competes in events and keeps horses; it's this purpose in life that has probably kept her sane. She married a Brazilian showjumper named "Doda" which seemed rather ominous, but they're still married, so maybe it's a good match. At any rate, her equestrian career is very good for her. Her mother had no focus in life at all: for her, life was just one long quest for love and amusement, which ended in her premature death.

by Anonymousreply 114February 3, 2015 11:25 PM

[quote]People, get a hold of yourselves. This was Christina Onassis. She was no doe-eyed beauty. She wasn't even jolie laide.

I hear that.

by Anonymousreply 115February 3, 2015 11:30 PM

"At any rate, her equestrian career is very good for her. Her mother had no focus in life at all: for her, life was just one long quest for love and amusement, which ended in her premature death."

It does seem to be true that neither Bobbi nor Christina had any focus outside of their messed-up selves, and Athina does. And yes, horses can take up a person's entire life FOR their entire life, believe me I know people like that.

And I find it interesting that having a child didn't give Christina something to focus on besides herself, she was just as big a mess as a mother as she had been as a childless woman. She must have hoped that having a child would save her psychologically, and I wonder why it had so little effect. Did the child come too late, after she was set in a pattern of pills and self-pity? Was it because her money allowed her to keep up with the pills and self-pity, while nannies raised the kid?

by Anonymousreply 116February 3, 2015 11:44 PM

Some women think having a baby will solve everything, make them happy. NOT true.

by Anonymousreply 117February 4, 2015 1:53 AM

I read on here that Christina's mother was born to wealth.

What about Ari? If he wasn't how did he amass such a huge fortune in such a short time?

I really hope Athina's happy. I hope her husband is not with her just for the money.

by Anonymousreply 118February 15, 2015 3:56 PM

R31: re Christina's mother thinking she was too plain: like, what did she think may happen w Onassis being the father? she took a chance in the looks department having Onassis father the child.

by Anonymousreply 119February 15, 2015 7:04 PM

Beauty is rare. That's why it's valued. Beautiful women who marry ugly rich men don't care about their children inheriting their good looks.

I used to think the money was enough to cover up that defect. They can always buy friends, plastic surgery and the best of everything else. But Christina and other celeb daughters who look like Daddy have proved me wrong.

by Anonymousreply 120February 15, 2015 7:14 PM

There was nothing wrong with her that couldn’t be fixed with makeup and better clothes. She was never going to be a stunning beauty, but she would have been a fine-looking woman who was obscenely rich, and that would have gotten her far with men. Sad that she let others define her worth for her entire life.

by Anonymousreply 121February 15, 2015 7:18 PM

I read a biography of her once, and it was very sad. it all stemmed from poor parenting. No love. Her father was culturally inaccessible to her since older Greek men left child rearing to the wimmin, and she was after all, only a girl. Her mother was a much sought after Great Beauty, who was unfaithful to her father, and too self involved to be much of a mother to her.

She wasn't very close to her brother Alexander, but when he died, Ari went nuts with grief. Since Christina was smart, and had already shown she could help run his shipping business, they became closer over the years, even before Alexander died.

Christina resented Jackie. Deeply. Remember, Christina was fat. She was homely. Really homely. She was a sloppy girl who didn't know how to dress, who threw herself at young men. She drank to excess,did drugs, and had several relationships with men who used and abused her. Very sad life.

by Anonymousreply 122February 15, 2015 7:21 PM

[quote]I used to think the money was enough to cover up that defect. They can always buy friends, plastic surgery and the best of everything else. But Christina and other celeb daughters who look like Daddy have proved me wrong.

Oh hi!

by Anonymousreply 123February 15, 2015 7:48 PM

Heiress: The Christina Onassis Story by Nigel Dempster came out in the 80's. And All the Pain Money Can Buy is another biography that came out more recently, say ten years ago, maybe 12? Anyway they're fascinating as are the biographies of Ari Obassis.

Tina Livanos was murdered. Athina Livanos, Christina's mother, was married to both Niarchos and Onassis, then some English guy, she was a mess, also died under suspicious circumstances.

Ari was not born a wealthy man, he was quite literally a self-made man who had no scruples. Niarchos married Henry Ford II's daughter Charlotte. They had a daughter.

by Anonymousreply 124February 15, 2015 8:05 PM

My parents remembered seeing Tina Onassis and her attorney several times in Mobile, Alabama, in 1960. Alabama was, for awhile, a good place to get a quick divorce.

by Anonymousreply 125February 15, 2015 8:38 PM

I bet y'all didn't know that Stavros Niarchos was so jealous of Ari Onassis, that he married an American heiress too. He married Charlotte Ford, the daughter and eldest child of Henry Ford II, granddaughter of Henry Ford. She had an ugly daughter too. Then they got divorced.

by Anonymousreply 126February 15, 2015 9:09 PM

[quote]Tina Livanos was murdered. Athina Livanos, Christina's mother, was married to both Niarchos and Onassis, then some English guy, she was a mess, also died under suspicious circumstances.

[quote]Athina Mary Livanos Onassis Spencer-Churchill Niarchos was the second daughter of the Greek shipping magnate Stavros Livanos and Arietta Zafirakis. She was best known as the first wife of Aristotle Onassis, but she later married her older sister Eugenia's widower, Stavros Niarchos. She was older sister to her parents' only son, George Stavros Livanos.

[quote]Known as Tina, she was married three times. Her husbands were:

[quote]Aristotle Onassis (28 December 1946 – 1960); with him she had two children, Alexander Onassis (1948–1973) and Christina Onassis (1950–1988). She divorced him upon her discovering him having an affair with the opera singer Maria Callas.

[quote]John Spencer-Churchill, Marquess of Blandford (23 October 1961 – 1971)

[quote]Stavros Niarchos (21 October 1971 – 1974), her sister Eugenia's widower.

[quote]After her divorce from Aristotle Onassis, Livanos dropped her married name and used her maiden name, until her marriage to the Marquess of Blandford.

[quote]Tina Niarchos died of a drug overdose in Paris, where she was living with third husband Stavros Niarchos. During this marriage, she suffered the loss of her 24-year-old son Alexander in a plane crash. Her only living descendant is her namesake granddaughter, Athina Onassis de Miranda. Livanos's daughter, Christina, sued her mother's widower for her mother's estimated US$250 million (in 1974 dollars) estate claiming the marriage should be annulled under Greek law. Christina later dropped the lawsuit and Niarchos returned all of the money as well as Livanos's jewellery, artwork and other personal effects.

by Anonymousreply 127February 15, 2015 9:51 PM

Didn't Diana Ross marry one of those Greek shipping magnates ? IIRC he was the father of her sons.

Did they divorce or did he pass away ?

by Anonymousreply 128February 15, 2015 10:12 PM

"There was nothing wrong with her that couldn’t be fixed with makeup and better clothes. She was never going to be a stunning beauty, but she would have been a fine-looking woman"

She wasn't an ugly woman, her strong features and huge dark eyes could have been striking if she'd presented herself with chic and confidence. I mean, look at this girl! Don't you just want to run over and give her a makeover on the spot? Drag her into the bathroom and slap a bra, some makeup, a darker color and an updo, and tell her to stand up straight and give the world a "You know you want this" look!

Okay, I'm being superficial, and her real problem was that she judged herself by the most superficial of standards, and she'd have been better off not giving a shit about any of that crap. But really, there was nothing keeping her from being a success as a shallow social butterfly, but the rotten self-image her family gave her.

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by Anonymousreply 129February 16, 2015 3:19 AM

I'm pretty sure this is coreect... Diana Ross married Norwegian shipping magnate Arne Naess, Jr. in 1986 and they divorced in 2000. They had a son together, Ross Arne Naess, born in 1987. In 2004 the father, Diana's ex-husband, died in a climbing accident, and Diana sang "Amazing Grace" at his funeral.

by Anonymousreply 130February 16, 2015 3:29 AM

[quote]Næss was born in Germany in 1937, to German physician August Oskar German Raab (1901–1993) and Kirsten "Kiki" Dekke Næss (1907–2001), a Norwegian national whose brother was philosopher and mountaineer Arne Næss. Næss' family lived in Germany during World War II. His parents divorced after the war, and Næss moved to Norway with his mother where they both took her maiden name Næss.

[quote]In 1964, Næss moved to New York to work for his uncle Erling Dekke Næss, a shipping magnate and businessman. He soon thereafter started his own business in London in 1968 where he was successful in shipping and oil, as well as in real estate. He would later go on to make a few bad investments in the 1990s in Pyramid scheme Global Money Games. His biggest success turned out to be an investment in an old IT business, Tandberg Data, and various real estate investments around the world. He spent his last years living in Switzerland.

[quote]In 1966 he married Filippa Kumlin d'Orey of Sweden and they had one son Christoffer and two daughters together, Katinka and folk/pop singer Leona Naess. After the divorce from his first wife, he had a relationship with Norwegian actress Mari Maurstad. In 1985, Næss met American singer Diana Ross on a trip to the Bahamas. He and Ross married in 1985 and had two sons, Ross Arne Næss (born October 7, 1987) and Evan Olav Næss (born August 26, 1988). The couple divorced in 1999. Næss Jr spent his remaining 5 years of his life with Norwegian born Camilla Astrup. The couple had two sons Nicklas and Louis.

by Anonymousreply 131February 16, 2015 3:56 AM

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by Anonymousreply 132February 16, 2015 5:12 AM

She kind of reminds me of Cass Elliot.While we're on the Kennedy's,might as well conjure up the whole gang.

by Anonymousreply 133September 21, 2015 7:30 AM

Christina and Athina at link (scroll down).

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by Anonymousreply 134September 21, 2015 11:46 AM

Christina Onassis was self-destructive. She was constantly trying to find her own self-worth through someone else's eyes whether it was her parents, friends, or the latest gigolo hustling her for as much as he could get out of her. Thierry Roussel was very cruel to her, and was there only for the money. A good life-lesson can be lifted from her life experience: YOU determine your worth, and never let your worth be defined by what someone else things of you. The Serenity Prayer. Self-acceptance is key as is the acceptance of any issue you might have to face - you conquer fear by facing it. Be willing and able to stand alone if you must. Self-preservation is a requirement. When dealing with those who mean you no good, be willing to speak the words "Fuck you! Go to hell!" AND MEAN THEM!

by Anonymousreply 135August 4, 2018 10:40 PM

Poor little rich girl. Money didn't buy her happiness.

by Anonymousreply 136August 5, 2018 12:55 PM
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