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Lusting after straights

I am not attracted to straights. I am gay, gay, gay. And I want a guy who is gay.%0D %0D What is it with you people who want sex with straightS?%0D %0D Their dicks and jiz taste just like mine, I assure you.

by Anonymousreply 17706/03/2015

We always want what we can't have. My partner's gay, I fuck him and I suck his cock. Seems to work out.

by Anonymousreply 106/25/2011

I lust after straights mostly because they're usually whom I am surrounded with. I rarely go to gay bars and only know a few gay men. If I become fully engaged with the gay community and expand my circle of gay friends and acquaintances, then I may start going after them.

by Anonymousreply 206/25/2011

Gross! Give me a prancing flamer any day of the week!

by Anonymousreply 306/25/2011

OP is definitely NOT Andy Towle of Towleroad. Most of the men he puts on his site are straight celebs and it's kind of pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 406/25/2011

I'm attracted to a confident, handsome man. He can be either gay or straight. His orientation won't determine my attraction, just if I act on it.

by Anonymousreply 506/25/2011

They've never realty been with anybody so they think men are men and they're all the same. They're not. Give me GAY. I won't even sleep with bi guys. They have to be GAY.

by Anonymousreply 706/25/2011

Almost universal rule: people want what they can't have OP.

by Anonymousreply 906/25/2011

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by Anonymousreply 1006/25/2011

OP, you're an idiot.%0D %0D I don't lust after gay or straigt people.%0D %0D I'm a homosexual male. I LUST AFTER MEN. Some of them happen to be straight. It's not like I can help it. Hell, half the time it's not like I can even tell.%0D %0D You're annoying and fucked up, OP. Seriously. To claim that you're not attracted to straight guys ever is just a fucking lie.%0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 1106/25/2011

R11?

Earrings? Caftans?

by Anonymousreply 1306/25/2011

No, R13. And no.%0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 1406/25/2011

I'm only attracted to straight women and monkeys.

by Anonymousreply 1506/25/2011

they may be better looking than you

by Anonymousreply 1606/25/2011

I've only always dated straight men. I don't know why but I'm just not attracted to gay men. I go to a gay bar and I find not one single person attractive and would not even want to brush up against them. I go to a frat house and I find everyone attractive and would want to suck them all off. Sent from my iPhone

by Anonymousreply 1706/25/2011

Must be boring dates, R17.

by Anonymousreply 1806/25/2011

No, they weren't boring. They were pretty hot actually. But there was never any emotional connection because they were straight. It was always just about the sex. Sent from my iPhone

by Anonymousreply 1906/25/2011

Getting down to it, I think gay men are attracted to straight men because they're attracted to - that's right - men. And after that it gets complicated, because it divides into the sexual issues of individuals breaking into larger categories of attractions, with overlaps across groups.

There's a historic tradition in Western homosexual life of being attracted to masculine, athletic, virile types. The same kind of men women as a group seem to have been erotically attracted to.

In gay life we have fetishized this "natural" tendency and made it more complex - exaggerations of straight men becoming gay icons, for example.

We also are simply are attracted to men, and perhaps recognize that, despite the intrinsic and proper role of gay culture in supporting and nurturing us, we are of course part of the larger society. A part of us would like gay issues not to be issues, and for sex with men to happen without the stigmas, weirdness, dangers, and such that homophobic traditions have left for us to live with. We believe that many "straight" men are more flexible in their sexuality than society has allowed them to be. And being a man among men is a turn-on for us.

And, of course, other gay men enjoy exactly the opposite, and dig the danger, nastiness, and sense of being used, abused and taking temporary control of the "top."

When I'm looking at men and responding to their appeal I am not thinking about whether they are gay or not. I like all kinds of men and don't play any particular role or look for a type. I don't find men attractive who are themselves types - I like men who are individuals. So I'm not attracted to anonymous lunkhead straights or gay guys who live as stereotypes.

It just seems that people who fetishize and script their sex lives are stuck somewhere and have issues to work through. Today's dominance of marketing and consumerism in our lives is contributing to terrible effects on young people's sexuality, I think, as if they didn't have enough challenges already.

by Anonymousreply 2006/25/2011

OP, but are you as masculine and athletic as the average straight dude? do you have stereotypically nonmasculine mannerisms and interests? because masculinity, uncompromised by any effeminate traits or attributes, is what attracts me to dudes.

by Anonymousreply 2106/26/2011

cuz they are masculine!

by Anonymousreply 2206/26/2011

[quote]I've only always dated straight men.%0D %0D Am I missing something here?

by Anonymousreply 2306/26/2011

R3 rocks!!!

by Anonymousreply 2406/26/2011

OP I guess it's the thrill of the chase. Like a lot of things, wanting what you ultimately cannot really have, and if you do, then the reality turns out to be more mundane than the expectation in many cases.

by Anonymousreply 2506/26/2011

Gay men who brag about having sex with "straight" men are pathetic.%0D %0D We all laugh at you, you know.

by Anonymousreply 2606/26/2011

Their dicks get real hard and they can shoot at least 10 feet!

Nuff said?

by Anonymousreply 2706/26/2011

It's not the thrill of the chase. There is no thrill in chasing a straight dude who is not hot, athletic, buff, and goodlooking. It's the looks plus masculinity that creates the thrill.

by Anonymousreply 2906/26/2011

Gay guys like straight men for the same reasons straight women like gay guys. People don't liked to be judged and graded like a slab of meat and passed on like a cow in a slaughterhouse. Straight guys seem to care about the real you, whereas gays don't care about anything but their own orgasm and status.%0D It may not be real, but that's how it plays out.

by Anonymousreply 3006/26/2011

Masculinity is a joke.

by Anonymousreply 3106/26/2011

Straight cock on the hoof is the absolute BEST!!!!%0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 3206/26/2011

I dont specifically look for straight dudes ONLY, but I am attracted to dudes like this (voice, look, mannerisms, interests, vibe) one at the link below.

by Anonymousreply 3306/26/2011

F&F for R28

by Anonymousreply 3406/26/2011

[quote]Straight guys seem to care about the real you

Hit it, Aunt Bunny

by Anonymousreply 3506/26/2011

hh

by Anonymousreply 3606/27/2011

I am one of those guys that tend to crush pretty hard on straight guys and I'm getting sick of it. Aside from the masculinity that they possess, it's probably also due to the fact that we want things that ultimately, we can never have.

by Anonymousreply 3706/27/2011

OP is Rep. Aaron Shock (R-Illinois #18).%0D %0D %0D [italic]Welcome to Datalounge.com, Congressman Shock![/italic]

by Anonymousreply 3906/27/2011

[quote]Straight guys seem to care about the real you, whereas gays don't care about anything but their own orgasm and status. It may not be real, but that's how it plays out.

Straight men are laughing at you Mary.

[quote]I am attracted to masculine men. The idea of a man who carries himself like Bette Davis trapped in a mans body, is a huge turnoff.

So says the queen with a purse falling out of her mouth.

by Anonymousreply 4006/27/2011

Straight men are for the most part tops, gay men for the most part are bottoms...you do the math.

by Anonymousreply 4106/27/2011

[quote]Straight men are for the most part tops, gay men for the most part are bottoms...you do the math.

Oh the irony.

by Anonymousreply 4206/27/2011

I cum IMMEDIATELY whenever I suck straight cock.%0D %0D HEAVEN!!!

by Anonymousreply 4306/27/2011

I second R37

by Anonymousreply 4406/27/2011

r38 has it right. If a guy is masculine, intelligent and attractive, of course he would gain our interest no matter if he's gay or straight. Nellie queens can't comprehend this concept and will start threads about "Lusting after straights."

by Anonymousreply 4506/27/2011

It's only the nellie quuens who CAN'T attract MEN who are doing all the shrieking in here. I wouldn't trade my straight cock for anything.

by Anonymousreply 4606/27/2011

[quote]Gay men pick up their effeminate characteristics from socializing with girls during childhood. %0D %0D What about gay men who socialized with girls during childhood, r47, and didn't turn into screeching nelly queens?%0D %0D What about straight men who socialized with girls during childhood, why aren't they skipping down the street as if they're on the Yellow Brick Road?%0D %0D What about men who grew up on a horse farm - do they have sex with horses instead of with humans?

by Anonymousreply 4806/27/2011

R48, don't listen to that nurture over nature moron. That theory has long been disproved. Nellie queens will be nellie queens no matter how hard you try to "socialize" it out of them. Lots of homophobic dads can attest to the frustration of trying to butch up their gay sons---doesn't work.

by Anonymousreply 4906/27/2011

Im not attracted to guys that cant be a complete bitch, at least in bed. So I don't lust after straight men a lot.

by Anonymousreply 5006/27/2011

I think some gay men chase after allegedly str8 men are 1) The chase is hot 2) Once he nabs the str8 guy and gets him into bed, it's not likely to become romantic. The secrecy usually required keeps things exciting.

by Anonymousreply 5106/27/2011

Gay man: " Look at my fabulous new underwear. I got it online at 50% off. Oh, did you hear that Bobby is having a fabulous party on Saturday to introduce his new boyfriend. Boyfriend? That queen is at least forty! Does my hair look nice?"%0D %0D Straight man:"Suck my cock, bitch."

by Anonymousreply 5206/27/2011

I don't necessarily lust after straight guys, but they tend to be the full package. Gay guys have such lousy personalities that sometimes it'd be easier to be straight.

by Anonymousreply 5306/27/2011

r53, see r35.

by Anonymousreply 5406/27/2011

sorry, but I am just not attracted into dudes who are not into sports; listen to female music; and can't relate to average, mainstream guys. it's not about sexual orientation, it's about masculinity.

by Anonymousreply 5506/27/2011

r55 ditto!

by Anonymousreply 5606/28/2011

So am I correct, r55 & r56, that you're attracted to fat, ignorant, narrow-minded douchebags? You know, average & mainstream straight guys? You're welcome to them.

by Anonymousreply 5706/28/2011

My issue is that I'm attracted to effeminate guys...and yet pretty much all fem guys carry MAJOR diva attitude, and they rarely seem to have earned the right to have attitude, it's all "drama for drama's sake."%0D %0D Why can't I meet a sweet femmy guy who is smart, and not pretentious? Why does femininity sometimes SEEM very 'nurture'? %0D %0D People aren't BORN with bitchy attitudes, they have to learn them.

by Anonymousreply 5806/28/2011

Look, if you are going to date queens you need to develop an immunity to the bitchiness. Stop taking it so seriously.

by Anonymousreply 5906/28/2011

Bitchiness is fake femininity. It is passive aggressive alpha male competitive behavior.

by Anonymousreply 6006/28/2011

[quote]you're attracted to fat, ignorant, narrow-minded douchebags? You know, average & mainstream straight guys? You're welcome to them.%0D %0D Get her, stamping her feetsies! r57 sits there in sequins and mascara wondering why masculine guys run away.

by Anonymousreply 6106/28/2011

R57 wears purpls Crocs.

by Anonymousreply 6206/28/2011

I like to pursue str8 guys because you can introduce them to so many new sensations.

I've sucked off many str8 men who had never cum in anyone's mouth before. I always tell them, "When a woman's sucking your cock and you tell her you're gonna cum, she pulls away. When a guy's sucking your cock and you tell him you're gonna cum, he just sucks harder."

Also, most str8 guys have never had their asses eaten. After they relax a bit, they go WILD.

Finally, that str8 guy you bed will likely remember you for the rest of his life. He may never, EVER tell anyone but he'll remember you. Compare that to some WeHo queen who can't remember how many guys she went to bed with last month.

by Anonymousreply 6306/28/2011

[quote]"Also, most str8 guys have never had their asses eaten. After they relax a bit, they go WILD."%0D %0D No truer words were ever spoken. %0D %0D For once a poster who actually [italic] gets [/italic] it.

by Anonymousreply 6406/28/2011

Funny, who purports to know what "most straight guys" like.

by Anonymousreply 6506/28/2011

You can't help who you are attracted to, it is like only being attracted to Asians.

by Anonymousreply 6606/28/2011

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by Anonymousreply 6706/28/2011

ds

by Anonymousreply 6805/29/2013

I'm not interested in a guy who lisps. Gay or straight. Chances are better with a straight.

by Anonymousreply 6905/29/2013

Then all of you on this thread should actually write: "LUSTING AFTER MASCULINE GAY MEN" since NO STRAIGHT GUY WILL GET FUCKED BY ANOTHER MAN'S DICK. What don't you get????

by Anonymousreply 7005/29/2013

Lesbian here and I wish I found more lesbians attractive to be honest. It's not easy being picky. Especially when I like femmes. That said, I do think it's masochistic to be into straights.

by Anonymousreply 7105/29/2013

R3, usual homophobic queen reply!

by Anonymousreply 7205/29/2013

Gosh, so many homophobes here who still confuse "straight" with masculine

by Anonymousreply 7305/29/2013

One of my friends - he's 50 - still falls in love with straight married men. It's sad really. He knows they'll never be more than friends yet he cannot help himself.

by Anonymousreply 7405/29/2013

Straights = Virgins

Gays = Whores

by Anonymousreply 7505/29/2013

I wish the average openly gay man were masculine and athletic (football, basketball, hockey). Just being honest.

by Anonymousreply 7605/29/2013

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by Anonymousreply 7705/30/2013

R76, but when masculine man comes out you straight-worshipping queen instantly call him "homophobic" because he doesn't like fems

by Anonymousreply 7805/30/2013

I think you are confusing attraction with selection. If you are attracted to men, you are attracted to men. Often you may have no idea if the man you are attracted to is gay or straight.

by Anonymousreply 7905/30/2013

[quote]I've only always dated straight men.

If and only if you are a straight woman, that makes sense. If you are a man, your grammar gives away your stupidity.

"I've only always...." is meaningless. And, if they've dated you, in the sense of a romantic or sexual date, they are not straight.

by Anonymousreply 8005/30/2013

OP, I understand why you feel it's odd that some gay men fetishize men because they are straight. But let's say you are attracted to a man, then you learn that he's straight, does it follow that you no longer find him attractive? Because that really doesn't make any sense.

by Anonymousreply 8105/30/2013

So much misinformation on this thread. First of all, if you have sex with a man, he is not straight. Period. Unless you are the "only one" he has ever experimented with. Or are the "one exception in his life." Yeah, sure. Straight but for you? hahahahaha

Men who have sex with other men can be labelled a lot of things but straight is not one of them. So quit lying to yourselves.

by Anonymousreply 8205/30/2013

I've always thought it was a waste of Time OP. Why lust after someone you can't have? Like celebs. You have no chance with them so why buy posters of magazines with them to lust? Waste of time.

by Anonymousreply 8305/30/2013

R83, what makes you think I can't have sex with celebrities? I've met celebrities. F'rinstance, I've had dinner with both Mercedes Reuhl and Charles Osgood. Maybe I could have scored......

by Anonymousreply 8405/30/2013

Straight dudes are more masculine. That is what I like.

by Anonymousreply 8507/02/2013

I am only attracted to straight and bicurious dudes.

by Anonymousreply 8607/02/2013

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by Anonymousreply 8707/02/2013

Straight dudes are not clean down there...no thanks!

by Anonymousreply 8807/02/2013

@83. Don't know where your self esteem is because I'm totally going to score with Taylor Lautner....shame ...shame, but I like what I like,

by Anonymousreply 8907/13/2013

[all posts by flame bait troll #11 removed (violent racist homophobic right-wing misogynist), ISP notified with full text of all posts.]

by Anonymousreply 9007/13/2013

[post by racist shit-stain #3 removed.]

by Anonymousreply 9107/13/2013

[quote]I've had dinner with both Mercedes Reuhl and Charles Osgood. Maybe I could have scored......

It's Charlie's son, Winston, who's the hunk in that family.

by Anonymousreply 9207/13/2013

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by Anonymousreply 9307/13/2013

For some guys lusting after straights, it's like a game. They want to see if they can be the first guy to give a b.j. to a previously straight guy. Turning him bi via an excellent b.j. is a challange. When the newly-bi guy discovers what he's been missing, it gives the gay guy a feeling of accomplishment.

by Anonymousreply 9407/14/2013

All men are wired to be bi. It's society that pushes them to be straight.

by Anonymousreply 9607/14/2013

Sometimes they only realize they're gay when they're getting fucked by another guy. My first BF was Israeli and had his fiancé and her family her for their wedding which was to take place soon. The hall was arranged. Everything. It was like "In & Out" without the wedding because we met and he called the whole thing off at the last minute. We stayed together seven years.

by Anonymousreply 9807/14/2013

I think we are seeing today that a third of men have gay feelings and a quarter have had at least some gay experience nowadays. Those old percentages come from a time of antigay hysteria and AIDS hysteria.

by Anonymousreply 9907/14/2013

No doubt times have changed with respect to tolerance of the homosex. However, "some gay experience" does not mean the guy isn't straight any more than "some heterosexual experience" means a guy isn't gay.

by Anonymousreply 10007/14/2013

r99, can you cite a source for your purported stats?

by Anonymousreply 10107/18/2013

[quote]It's Charlie's son, Winston, who's the hunk in that family.

Oh, HER! Yeah, well, he figured out pretty fast that I was just using him to get to Charlie.

by Anonymousreply 10207/18/2013

Bodyspace is a great place to gawk and interact with hot straight fitness dudes.

by Anonymousreply 10307/22/2013

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by Anonymousreply 10408/02/2013

I am a cocksucker. God made me this way. Yes, I sometimes like a 69 or getting fucked. I can really get into some hot ass.

I have never cared much about getting my dick sucked. I would suck cock every day, one after another. Not that concerned about looks etc.

Straights give me the best shot of the one way action I want. It's not about them being straight, it is about them just wanting sucked off.

by Anonymousreply 10508/02/2013

^Can't even..

by Anonymousreply 10608/02/2013

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by Anonymousreply 10708/15/2013

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by Anonymousreply 10811/14/2013

#tragicfags

by Anonymousreply 10911/14/2013

only trans queens have straight fetish

by Anonymousreply 11011/14/2013

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by Anonymousreply 11111/18/2013

Only straight cock goes in this mouth.

by Anonymousreply 11211/18/2013

R40 must be a real [italic] BLAST [/italic]at parties.

by Anonymousreply 11311/18/2013

I would actually prefer hanging out with somebody like R40. At least they are not delusional.

by Anonymousreply 11411/18/2013

Yes, R112. Because another man's mouth is [italic]exactly[/italic] where a straight man's cock wants to go.

by Anonymousreply 11511/18/2013

r105, now that was too much information.

by Anonymousreply 11611/18/2013

I'm with R105. I'm a natural born cocksucker, and from what I've been told, pretty damn good at it. It really doesn't matter that much what the guy looks like or how old he is. I dont want my dick sucked or played with, all I want is to suck dick and eat sperm. When a gay guy asks if he can play with my dick or suck me off its a deal breaker. Straight guys who just want head and nothing more are perfect for that. The married ones are even better because they dont want anything complicated and there are no drama issues.

by Anonymousreply 11711/18/2013

[quote]Straight guys who just want head and nothing more are perfect for that.

You mean bisexual or closeted gay guy.

by Anonymousreply 11811/18/2013

[quote]You mean bisexual or closeted gay guy.

Maybe, who knows what they consider themselves. Quite frankly, it doesn't matter to me. I'm not interested in what is happening in their mind.

by Anonymousreply 11911/18/2013

[quote]Maybe, who knows what they consider themselves. Quite frankly, it doesn't matter to me. I'm not interested in what is happening in their mind.

How many cocks have you sucked? Thousands? Are you open to anal?

by Anonymousreply 12011/18/2013

I don't understand that fetish either.

Obviously, if a guy is hot - straight or gay - I'm going to want him. But for a relationship, I want a gay man only.

by Anonymousreply 12111/18/2013

I've lost count. On average I suck about 4 to five a week, most are men I have sucked before.

by Anonymousreply 12211/18/2013

R120 is a woman.

If you are a man, the answer is so obvious, you'd be embarrassed to ask it.

by Anonymousreply 12311/18/2013

[quote] First of all, if you have sex with a man, he is not straight.

I've fucked a couple of women in my life. Am I straight? Have I been deceiving everyone, including myself, all these years??

by Anonymousreply 12411/18/2013

R122, what about anal?

by Anonymousreply 12511/18/2013

R122 I dont do anal.

by Anonymousreply 12611/18/2013

R124 bi freak

by Anonymousreply 12711/18/2013

R126, really? You're missing out.

Do the guys, when they cum, do they shoot on your face? Do you swallow or spit it out?

by Anonymousreply 12811/18/2013

R128 Im not really missing out because its not something that really gets me excited and besides, the men dont want to fuck, they want head. I always swallow.

by Anonymousreply 12911/18/2013

Macho is attractive to me as a look but as an attitude it's a huge turn off. I prefer the gentle giant types.

by Anonymousreply 13011/18/2013

R129, fascinating.

Are there guys out there who shoot tons of cum? Guys that put porn stars to shame?

None of the guys want to fuck? Have they ever asked?

by Anonymousreply 13111/18/2013

R131 I cant say how much they shoot as their dick is usually in the back of my throat when it happens. No, they never ask to fuck. They either want a long, slow cockworshiping blow job or a fast blow and go. Fucking is too much time, requires condoms and probably too gay for them to consider, which is fine with me. If they want to fuck, there are other guys out there offering that.

by Anonymousreply 13211/18/2013

[quote]and probably too gay for them to consider, which is fine with me.

Wait a sec...a man has his lips around their cock!

You can't judge the size of a guy's load when he shoots in your mouth? Huh...

Which types of guys have you sucked off? How do you find these guys? Do they seek you out? Are they hot? Are they crazy? Do you suck off really gross guys too?

by Anonymousreply 13311/18/2013

[quote]You can't judge the size of a guy's load when he shoots in your mouth?

I never said they shoot in my mouth. I said at the back of my throat. If you ever sucked dick real deep then you would understand.

by Anonymousreply 13411/18/2013

No, I haven't sucked a dick like that yet. I will though. I'll try it.

by Anonymousreply 13511/18/2013

R134, have you ever eaten out their ass?

by Anonymousreply 13611/18/2013

I can't tell you how many pictures I've stolen from Bodyspace for fake craigslist ads during boring work days.

by Anonymousreply 13711/18/2013

share some of them, r137

by Anonymousreply 13811/18/2013

Would you rather date a man who acts like Bette Davis or Tallullah Bankhead?

by Anonymousreply 13911/18/2013

R139 I would never date a man who is so boring he knows these two

by Anonymousreply 14011/18/2013

R139, lol, isn't that the same thing, like asking would you like to get kicked in the ass or the arse?

by Anonymousreply 14111/18/2013

Flamers suck

by Anonymousreply 14211/18/2013

flaming trans queens are nasty but they are usually the ones with the "straight" fetish

by Anonymousreply 14311/18/2013

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by Anonymousreply 14411/22/2013

whoa

by Anonymousreply 14511/26/2013

interesting

by Anonymousreply 14612/06/2013

and bisexuals?

by Anonymousreply 14712/10/2013

[quote]Would you rather date a man who acts like Bette Davis or Tallullah Bankhead?

I'd rather run needles through my eyes.

by Anonymousreply 14812/10/2013

[quote]This is why they hait us.

Whereas your inability to enable auto-correct is why [italic]we[/italic] hate you, R6.

by Anonymousreply 14912/10/2013

They do hait us, R149.

by Anonymousreply 15012/10/2013

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by Anonymousreply 15101/25/2014

just be masculine

by Anonymousreply 15202/15/2014

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by Anonymousreply 15307/05/2014

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by Anonymousreply 15407/11/2014

The whole Frankie and Zach dynamic on Big Brother is a very public example of a lovesick gay dude pining over a straight-identified dude who will never be available the way the gay dude wishes he could be. It is sad.

by Anonymousreply 15507/17/2014

yep

by Anonymousreply 15608/16/2014

[quote]The whole Frankie and Zach dynamic on Big Brother is a very public example of a lovesick gay dude pining over a straight-identified dude who will never be available the way the gay dude wishes he could be. It is sad.

Um, Zach is not straight. Straight guys do NOT go as far as Zach has, even just joking around.

I do agree that Frankie fawning over the REAL straight guys (Caleb, Cody, etc.) is pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 15708/16/2014

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by Anonymousreply 15809/27/2014

We are the worst offenders of the "suck one cock and you're gay" theory. Plenty of guys experiment. It doesn't make them gay. You can argue they are at some level bisexual, but for a lot of them, it's just about trying something different.

The problem with falling in love with straight guys is that it can lead to sex. At which point you, the gay guy, thinks you're about 6 weeks from marriage, given what good buddies you've become, while the straight guy is completely freaked out and may end the friendship totally or, more likely, just withdraw.

For a lot of us it's a way of making sure that love never happens, that we are just theoretically gay.

It's also about wanting to be more like the straight guy we're shipping, to be thought of as more like him.

by Anonymousreply 15909/27/2014

This is clearly one of those threads where demographics is very important. I think polls (yes I know they are unscientific) have shown that the average age on DL is a little older. The truth is, while there are still issues with gay sex in pockets of the country, on the whole, millennials don't have the same hang ups and issues about it that Boomers and to a lesser degree Gen Xers have about gay sex. So they are more open to experimentation, without it putting some huge label on who they are and where they fall on the sex scale. A person's sexual identity is really not up for debate. If he says he's straight, then he's straight. Even he says it with two dicks up his ass.

by Anonymousreply 16009/27/2014

I think a lot of it goes back to adolescence. 90% of us were not out in high school, some of us weren't out in college either, and we all developed a crush on a straight guy along the way, maybe he was our best friend, or maybe he was just a casual acquaintance, but in any case for the vast majority of us, our "first loves" were straight men. Our ultimate fantasy was that he secretly felt the same way about us as we did about him, but of course he never did. This straight man then becomes the ultimate object of desire, we want him but we can never have him, at a time when all we want is to be loved.

Most gay guys get over this, it is a phase of the closet, and we move on, learn to stop caring about straights and find attractiveness and beauty in our fellow gay men. Others however never quite get over it. They never stop viewing straight men as superior to gay men, they compare all potential partners to the straight ideal of their teenage years, who is forever on a pedestal in their minds. The thing is, I don't think most gay men who do this realize what they're doing, and if they did (and understood it will never make them happy) then they would stop.

by Anonymousreply 16109/27/2014

That makes a lot of sense R161. I'd even add that for a lot of us that straight best friend was someone very good-looking and athletic and charismatic (at least in our eyes) and that the forbidden nature of our longing made the whole thing even hotter/more romantic.

by Anonymousreply 16209/27/2014

I don't know any gay men who lust after straights. It's all a bogus tale put out by femmy gays who can't get a date, so they claim that gay guys are lusting after straights.

by Anonymousreply 16309/27/2014

[quote]I don't know any gay men who lust after straights.

R163 leads a bro-free life.

by Anonymousreply 16409/27/2014

There is always a R82 every time we do one of these. He's wrong.

Anyone who believes he's figured out the heterosexual male is delusional. While they're taking that millisecond to decide whether or not to let you fuck them, there is either a LOT going on upstairs or nothing at all. In either event, it's amazing how many of them will try it. Once or at most three times and just with the same guy (mostly!!)

My personal reference: three guys in this town who, like me, are in their sixties now.

by Anonymousreply 16609/29/2014

you are exaggerating, r166

by Anonymousreply 16701/27/2015

op

by Anonymousreply 16805/12/2015

Between 95-90% of the men we are going to encounter are going to be straight. Straight men have nearly all the same attributes as gay men, the idea that we wouldn't ever be attracted to any of them is completely ridiculous.

Hopefully the overwhelming majority of us know that anything more than lusting is a waste of time.

by Anonymousreply 16905/14/2015

Because most gay men, despite how masculine they try to act on the outside, and how successful they are at it, are really fem bitches deep deep deep down, and so they are attracted to the ideal of masculinity, and what is more societally entrenched than the straight man's masculinity which is given to him at birth, and so different from the masculinity that the gay man had to work for and that still evades him.

That's why many gay men want straight men. It's aspirational.

And they even hate men who simply look feminine regardless of how they act. Because it reminds them of something in themselves that they hate.

by Anonymousreply 17005/14/2015

I have standards!

I only like str8 guys if they have a wedding ring and offspring!

by Anonymousreply 17105/14/2015

Only flaming and wanna be 'trans' queens lust after Straight and Bi guys.

by Anonymousreply 17205/15/2015

Only "ugly" and "obese" queens like r172 are so judgemental. Nobody even wants you fatty

by Anonymousreply 17305/15/2015

My husband and I talk about the hot, masculine straight boys at the gym, because, well, they're hot. It's not like we think we could invite them into our bed and turn them gay. Lighten up.

by Anonymousreply 17505/15/2015

I only find gay sex hot if you really *don't* want to have sex with me.

by Anonymousreply 17706/03/2015
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