Had to be more than neglect.
Why Didn''t Barbara Stanwyck Get Along with Her Son?
|by Anonymous||reply 80||09/06/2014|
Fay was a drunk.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||03/08/2011|
Hell, I didn't even know Stanwyck had a son! Keep this coming, fascinating.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||08/24/2011|
Her best early role was "Babyface". A flawless, brazen, unapologetic slut who *loved* using sex to wield power over men. Her and Theresa Russel were a great ahead-of-their-time interracial girl team.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||10/18/2011|
She was very career driven and it's obvious why she became that way. I would love to read a really good book on her. It's sad because she doesn't seem like the type of person to let a man beat her.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||10/18/2011|
Dion, not true, she loved you more. but unlike the Big V. sons, you were indicative of her successes and failures and she couldnt bear to look upon that. easier to shut you out, than deal with it all---emotionally crippling on top of all the YEARS of heartache that she never dealt with from the loss of a mother and father. If she didnt care for you deeply she could look at you, see you, etc., with little or no affect on her. it was HER shortcomings, not yours, that caused her to do what she did and handle it the way she did. When the human psyche has no more room for pain, it shuts down. some very good counseling could have helped tremendously. you MUST forgive her and let the pain go. Ask God to do this with you, for if you dont you will carry this burden to your grave thinking YOU did something wrong. She had just reached her limit in emotional strength and you, the innocent casualty of this. if you are still living and seek happiness and peace- try this. make your peace with your maker and ask that He forgive her and then you. love her and accept her for what she was-fractured, weak emotionally that is why acting was so easy for her. she could leave her prblems outside, not deal with them and get volumes of accolades and kudos without having to really develop herself. my guess is she had PTSD and a broken heart, and lived with it all her life.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||02/18/2013|
Wow, she's even more of a survivor/success story than Marilyn. I wonder if they ever compared horror stories on the set of "Clash By Night"?
|by Anonymous||reply 26||02/18/2013|
back in the day many women had sex with, Lilyan Tashman, Greta Garbo, Marlene Dietrich, Ruby Stevens aka Barbara Stanwyk, Kay Francis and many more. Read "The secret life of Humphrey Bogart" the early years (1899-1931) by Darwin Porter. Myrna loy, and Joan Crawford, they were all in the mix. Back then it was common practice.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||04/10/2013|
Mario takes on... Barbara Stanwyck, at the 1:09 min. mark.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||04/10/2013|
R27 that was a bit far-fetched. How ever there is some possibility to be true since everything is possible in this funny life.
R26, i have seen 'Clash By Night' and i can say that it is undoubtedly a good movie. It's a Fritz Lang film and Barbara has an interesting role here. Marilyn too! However Barbara's character has more edges that Marilyn's in that one. Marilyn was so sympathetic. It really surprises me that many Dataloungers trash her. She was just a tortured woman with a lot of nightmares in her beautiful head.
And lol R26, i have no idea what happened between those two ladies on the set of this movie. It would be interesting to know some stories about that though, yeah!
|by Anonymous||reply 30||04/10/2013|
Didn't she kill one of her husbands?
|by Anonymous||reply 31||04/10/2013|
Omg, did she?
|by Anonymous||reply 32||04/10/2013|
R31 I think you are thinking of Lana Turner.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||04/10/2013|
Bette Davis also (prehaps) killed one of her husbands. It was the style at the time, like wearing an onion on your belt!
|by Anonymous||reply 35||04/10/2013|
It's interesting that so many of the old actresses from the same time period - Stanwyck, Crawford and Davis - were apparently unfit mothers. I wonder if Joan and Barbara ever disussed it while they were friends? Toward the end Joan publically admitted that she probably shouldn't have been a mother. I think she tried her best but just didn't have the basic human skills needed.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||04/10/2013|
Norma Shearer and Bette Grable were no mothers of the year either. Bette wasn't horrible. Her daughter was a selfish bitch.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||04/10/2013|
R20, what language was that blather originally in, Venusian?
|by Anonymous||reply 38||04/10/2013|
Wasn't there a rumor she had a long love affair with Agness Moorehead?
|by Anonymous||reply 39||04/10/2013|
Did anyone think that maybe Sandra Bullock is the same, adopted the baby for press, not because of love?
|by Anonymous||reply 40||04/10/2013|
Stanwyck has had more pussy than a cat shelter.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||04/10/2013|
R23, this is a quote from Barbara Stanwyck's press agent, Helen Ferguson: "There is no doubt in my mind that Joan and Barbara were intimate on more than one occasion."
I also read that at the time of Joan's death, the only two photos in her apartment were of Barbara Stanwyck and John. F. Kennedy. Makes you wonder if they had an actual relationship.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||04/10/2013|
Kennedy fucked them all. That guy knew how use a woman. If I were straight he'd be my hero. Love ya John!
|by Anonymous||reply 44||04/10/2013|
Rue tells the best Bea story ever, at the link. It's just the first 45 seconds of the clip, and it was at Bea's memorial.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||04/10/2013|
Oops -- wrong thread! But, please enjoy!
|by Anonymous||reply 47||04/10/2013|
Movie stars just don't make good parents, usually. You have to be extremely obsessed with your career to make it as a movie star (even talent and luck and beauty are not enough--you have to have incredible drive), and that kind of focus usually does not leave enough time for your children.
The only movie star whom I ever heard of being an exemplary parent is (predictably) Meryl Streep.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||04/10/2013|
DL really is geezer town isn't it?
Back to reddit....
|by Anonymous||reply 49||04/10/2013|
[quote]I don't think Stanwyck was a bad mother at all, I think she just got worn out dealing with Dion when he was a teenager.
That's a contradiction in terms. If you get worn out by dealing with a teenager who is not a special-needs child or a psychopath, then you are a bad mother.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||04/10/2013|
[quote]DL really is geezer town isn't it? Back to reddit....
Buh-bye! Don't let the door smack you on the ass on your way out!
|by Anonymous||reply 51||04/10/2013|
[quote]DL really is geezer town isn't it? Back to reddit....
Move it along, toots! *taps him on his head with umbrella*
|by Anonymous||reply 52||04/10/2013|
R49, You aren't going anywhere and you fucking know it. You are either ignorant or stupid. Plenty of people of all ages love talking about old movie stars. I'm 20 years old. I doubt that makes me an old geezer. If you don't like it don't read it. Simple.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||04/10/2013|
Because they were both tops.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||04/10/2013|
Oh sorry, it was Bette Davis I was thinking of.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||04/10/2013|
I adore Barbara, but she was not a good mom.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||04/10/2013|
Yeah, I definitely think it was the same situation as Crawford. These women were raised rough from day one. Poverty, abuse both emotional and sexual. It feeds your ambition, sometimes. And then you become a movie star. You are adored by millions around the world. It's your job and you do it very very well. You marry a charismatic, rich man and live in great luxury, never forgetting where you came from and how you got there. You are truly grateful for your success.
Children raised in great luxury aren't aware when their when their movie star mothers begin to look down on them for not being grateful for their own success -- at being adopted by a movie star.
And movie stars should be careful whom they adopt, should they turn out to have names like Christina BD, or Soon-Yi.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||04/10/2013|
Oh, BD was the biological daughter of Bette Davis, wasn't she. That's the saddest one of all.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||04/10/2013|
It seems strange to me that back in the Golden Age of Hollywood there wasn't some sort of day care system in place at the big studios to accommodate the babies of their female stars.
Perhaps the moguls felt that the presence of those babies would distract their leading ladies even if they were cared for by studio-paid nannies?
|by Anonymous||reply 60||05/12/2013|
Not a bad mother? She was cold as ice. She shipped him off to Military School because he was overweight, took him to the Train Station and SHOOK HIS HAND goodbye and Never saw or talked to him again.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||08/22/2013|
There's a new 1,000 page biography coming out in the fall, and it's only Part 1! She must have been a real bitch to warrant a 2 part biography.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||08/22/2013|
I know she had a super rough childhood, and she was poor and fought her way in life. She was considered a real survivor. she was well loved on the set of Big Valley. Linda Evens said she lost her mother and she was crying on the set. Barbara asked her what's wrong? She told her her mother died and Barbara said I'll be your mother and you can talk to me anytime.
The Barbara Stanwyck fans cans practically every biography that comes out on her, especially when the author makes the claim she was bisexual,wow! look out! They most be the same people on IMBD message boards.
I think Susie Lee said that there was some incident that pointed out that Barbara Stanwyck was a lesbian, but I forgot the story. Dose anyone remember what Susie Lee said? So Hugh Hefner said Barbara Stanwyck and Robert Taylor were bisexual? What else dose that world famous pimp know?
|by Anonymous||reply 63||08/22/2013|
I been doing a little research on Barbara Stanwyck and find it sad that the two of them could not have worked things out before she died. From what i understand in some way he did try to reach out to his mother. Dion invited her to his wedding but she did not attend. I think in own was he was trying to make things right.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||08/27/2013|
I always wondered if Barbara was intersexed. Just a hunch. Great actress, but she had an androgynous quality about her.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||09/21/2013|
Whatever happened to Dion?
Is he still alive?
|by Anonymous||reply 66||09/22/2013|
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|by Anonymous||reply 67||09/22/2013|
After seeing a few of her movies today, my interest again peaked regarding Barbara Stanwyck. She seems to have had a rough start, didn't know she had a child.A life is very interesting. We all have so much we have experienced. As I read about others, I just sincerely hope there was some joy. We must do they best we can.. Ingrid Quin Harvey
|by Anonymous||reply 68||08/05/2014|
Barbar's father died at sea coming back from Panama June 15, 1919.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||09/05/2014|
[quote] Ruby and her brother Byron were raised by their sister Mildred, who was five years older than Ruby
That makes no sense at all. The mother died when Ruby was 4, the father disappeared two weeks later. That makes Mildred nine years old.
If Ruby went to live with Mildred when Mildred was 18, that makes Ruby 13. Who raised Ruby in the nine years before between aged 4 and 13?
|by Anonymous||reply 70||09/05/2014|
[quote] When she was four, her mother died of complications from a miscarriage after a drunken stranger accidentally knocked her off a moving streetcar
|by Anonymous||reply 71||09/05/2014|
R63 umm she wanted to eat Linda Evan's taut little pussy.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||09/05/2014|
On her deathbed, Barbara made it clear to the nurses that Dion was not allowed to enter her hospital room.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||09/05/2014|
[R49] Yes. The misogynist peeping-toms of Reddit are awesome.
Pigeon holes are fun to drill for everyone!
|by Anonymous||reply 74||09/06/2014|
"There's a new 1,000 page biography coming out in the fall, and it's only Part 1! She must have been a real bitch to warrant a 2 part biography."
I've just finished reading it. Robert Taylor comes off in he book as the ultimate mama's boy. After he and Stanwyck were married by a JP, he left Barbara to rush to his mother's house to inform her of the marriage, but she had already heard the news on the radio and was distraught. Taylor spent his wedding night in bed with his mother, holding her as she sobbed until she fell asleep. Stanwyck would complain to friends that she wished Taylor were more of a man and not so weak.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||09/06/2014|
Does the book address Barbara's penchant for muff-diving?
|by Anonymous||reply 76||09/06/2014|
Maybe her kid was a pain in the ass.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||09/06/2014|
At some point Dion got busted for selling porno and Babs bailed him out. They were even less on speaking terms after that.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||09/06/2014|
To think he could have become an internet porn millionaire. Timing is everything.
-It wasn't underage crap, I'm assuming. No, praying.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||09/06/2014|
The Stanwyck biography details several attempts by Frank Fay to kidnap Dion after their divorce and demand ransom from Stanwyck. His planned attempts were always thwarted by members of his own staff, who would tip off Stanwyck of each planned attempt.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||09/06/2014|