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The most homophobic movies of all time

People always point to "Cruising" as homo-hateful (I disagree, seems pretty accurate). But what other movies make us look bad?%0D %0D I watched "The Owl And The Pussycat" the other night and I heard "fairy" and "pervert" over and over.

by Anonymousreply 33408/11/2015

I guess Braveheart is there at the top. The first time I started to dislike Mel Gibson was when I was watching that piece of shit.

by Anonymousreply 103/04/2011

Eddie Murphy: Raw

by Anonymousreply 203/04/2011

Anything by Sacha Baron Cohen.

by Anonymousreply 303/04/2011

This movie:

by Anonymousreply 503/04/2011

I would say anything by Mel...

by Anonymousreply 603/04/2011

Slap Shot

by Anonymousreply 703/04/2011

Luckily not many

by Anonymousreply 803/04/2011

Please explain the homophobia in Braveheart, I could never bring myself to watch that shit.

by Anonymousreply 903/04/2011

The Hangover is a recent example.

by Anonymousreply 1003/04/2011

Not most homophobic, but in The Hangover they kept teasing some guy by calling him Dr. Faggot. That's so gay.

by Anonymousreply 1103/04/2011

Anybody seen this movie Role Models with Paul Rudd? 365gay says it's the most homophobic movie ever.

by Anonymousreply 1203/04/2011

I didn't think Hangover was homophobic. I thought it was just guys being guys.

by Anonymousreply 1303/04/2011

Negative image of gays in films very much a product of the film's time. For instance the Detective in the late 60s or films from the 70s when so many people feared the high visibilty and militancy (demanding equal rights) of both women and gays. Films went anti-leading lady in the 70s as well.

by Anonymousreply 1403/04/2011

"Braveheart" is the most sickeningly homophobic movie of all time.%0D %0D Mel Gibson created a gay British prince who DID NOT EXIST at the time of William Wallace just so the gay prince's boyfriend could be hurled out the window of a castle to his death. Whenever this scene plays in theatres, the audience erupts into laughter and cheers. And there is NO reason for their joy aside from the fact that they just got to see a gay man killed. %0D %0D It is sickening. And Mel Gibson intensionally created this historically inaccurate event and sold it as true history. The world sadly believed it and loved it. It is the most terrifying experience I ever had to watch this in a theatre.

by Anonymousreply 1503/04/2011

I saw Role Models, R13, but I can't remember it. I guess that pretty much tells you how much of an impact it would have on anyone.

by Anonymousreply 1603/04/2011

Why would str8 movie makers care about being homophobic when gay people don't care? There's never any big outcry about any gay bashing language in movies. Gays, even on DL, always make excuses like R13...just guys being guys. Like whites were just being whites back in the day.

by Anonymousreply 1703/04/2011

The funny thing is that Mel's character in 'Braveheart' is terribly gay (albeit a butch queen). William Wallace's wife is conveniently killed early in the movie so that we don't have to have "icky women" in the story. She reappears occasionally as a ghost to remind people that WW is straight even though he only hangs around with beefy men (no chicks anywhere in THIS revolution). Obviously killing the prince's BF is a further audience "get out of jail free card" for Wallace's homoerotic lifestyle.

It's as gay as Top Gun.

Sadly, it isn't campy fun - it's a tedious, earnest bowl of tripe only relieved by some good battle scenes (kudos to the editor and cinematographer). Just as in real life, Mel is insufferable and I have never wished more fervently for a movie hero to die a painful death as I did in that cinema.

If only THAT scene was real...

by Anonymousreply 1803/04/2011

Robert Aldrich's "The Choirboys". It's not even close. We get an early visit from a faggot with a pink poodle. He sees a cop handcuffed to a tree and romantic violin music plays in the background. "Oooh, a naked perthon" he lisps. A young kid gets arrested for cruising in the park and is released. At the movie's climax, a shellshocked vet guns him down in the park and the event is covered up by the police force.

by Anonymousreply 1903/04/2011

Rent 'The Celluloid Closet', a documentary based on the great book by Vito Russo. It details the representations of lesbians and gay men throughout movie history with amazing footage going back to the birth of the moving picture.

by Anonymousreply 2003/04/2011

[quote]Not most homophobic, but in The Hangover they kept teasing some guy by calling him Dr. Faggot. That's so gay. No, they didn't keep calling him that. I read on Datalounge that it was homophobic, so I avoided it until recently. It's much funnier that I had expected. There's one exchange early on: dentist's mean girlfriend: I just wish your friends were as mature as you. dentist: They are mature. You just have to get to know them. immature friend outside the house: Paging Dr. Faggot. girlfriend: I guess you'd better get going, Dr. Faggot (bitter sarcasm). That's might not be exact, but it's close. It's supposed to show the friend is regressing to adolescence in anticipation of the stag party.

by Anonymousreply 2103/04/2011

Norman is That You?


The Birdcage

by Anonymousreply 2203/04/2011

I agree with you, R15. That bothered the crap out of me. It was so obvious the negative message he was trying to convey about gay men.%0D %0D BTW, I'm a straight woman.%0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 2303/04/2011

[quote]Mel Gibson created a gay British prince who DID NOT EXIST at the time of William Wallace just so the gay prince's boyfriend could be hurled out the window of a castle to his death

Prince Edward, later King Edward II *DID* exist and was likely gay or bi(he fathered at least five children from 2 different women). He father however did not have his lover killed (much less thrown out the window) instead exiled him to France (he returned when the old King died)

Gibson of course introduces this cheesy plot about Wallace actually being the father of the homo-prince's son (Edward III).

by Anonymousreply 2403/04/2011

The Silence of the Lambs = Lotion in the Basket Queen Will Skin Your Daughter

The Lion King = Uncle Scar: Usurping Fag

Spartacus = Effeminate Crassus Likes Snails and Oysters, Will Crucify You

by Anonymousreply 2503/04/2011

R21- please fuck off and die. I'm SO tired of pieces of shit like you making excuses for homophobic garbage. You're filth.

by Anonymousreply 2603/04/2011

There's still so much homophobia in movies- it's very telling. A business full of closet cases who use the word "fag" as a cover for their private realities. That's what makes garbage like the Hangover so infuriating. A movie starring a closet case, so of course it has to resort to gay slurs.

by Anonymousreply 2703/04/2011

Really Old Gay Guy here: Frank Sinatra in Tony Rome. The most evil, hateful movie ever as it relates to Gays and Lesbians.%0D %0D It is a wonder that they even show it on TV these days. Just horrible.

by Anonymousreply 2803/04/2011

I own this thread.

by Anonymousreply 2903/04/2011

R5's YT link has this comment...%0D %0D Charlie is said to suffer%EF%BB%BF from 'tinymeat' (= less than 7 inches hard).%0D %0D Discuss.%0D %0D mrspatrickcampbell 6 hours ago %0D %0D R5 ...was that you? (g)%0D %0D That film could certainly make one 80sphobic. Eww.%0D %0D Rod Steiger in "No Way To Treat A Lady" in response to being called "homo".. "It doesn't make you a bad person".

by Anonymousreply 3003/04/2011

I'd imagine the script (such as it was) was written well before Cooper was cast, R27.

I'm ultimately not particularly hopeful that casual homophobia will disappear from Hollywood movies anytime soon. Straight men seem to have a boundless appetite for misogynistic humor and gay panic jokes -- watching women and the men who (they think) are stupid enough to want to be like women get humiliated is mother's milk to them.

by Anonymousreply 3103/04/2011

Yep, Braveheart tops my list, as well.%0D %0D As for The Hangover...a gay friend raved about it and coerced me into seeing it. Bradley Cooper's character - a teacher - calls one of his students (out of earshot) a "fag" and later, of course, uses the "Paging Dr. Faggot" line. A disgusting film and I didn't laugh once. If I hadn't been with a friend, I would've walked out.

by Anonymousreply 3203/04/2011

"If you were a woman, I'd know how to compete with you"

by Anonymousreply 3303/04/2011

The Rod Steiger movie THE SERGEANT

by Anonymousreply 3403/04/2011

Exactly R27.A lot of these movies are also written by closet cases.

by Anonymousreply 3503/04/2011

Interiors when crazed stalker Elizabeth Ashley rifled through Talia Shire's trashcan to sniff a discarded tampon. %0D %0D A Different Story when a gay man, Perry King, and a lesbian, Meg Foster, discover heterosexual love with one another while smearing frosting on each other's naked bodies. %0D %0D They Only Kill Their Masters. James Garner and Katherine Ross yuck it up as a pair of sleuths out to discover whether foul play wan involved in the death of a pregnant lesbian who was torn to pieces by a doberman.

by Anonymousreply 3603/04/2011

Very true, R34%0D %0D One of a long line of "The Queer Ends Up Dead Some Way Or Another For Wahtever Reason" movies.%0D %0D Did anyone mention "The Children's Hour" yet?

by Anonymousreply 3703/04/2011

R31- how brilliant and astute you are not!

You totally missed the point, Einstein.

by Anonymousreply 3803/04/2011

"Boys Beware" is sort of homophobic in a way.

by Anonymousreply 3903/04/2011

"Interiors when crazed stalker Elizabeth Ashley rifled through Talia Shire's trashcan to sniff a discarded tampon."

Interiors? Is there a different movie Interiors, other than the Woody Allen movie?

by Anonymousreply 4003/04/2011

r36, the Elizabeth Ashley - Talia Shire movie is "Windows," not "Interiors."

by Anonymousreply 4103/04/2011

No, I didn't miss your point.

You seem to believe that homophobia exists in movies because a lot of the people who create movies are self-hating closet cases. I believe homophobia exists in movies because straight men love their privilege and get off on degrading women and gay men (or watching them be degraded).

by Anonymousreply 4203/04/2011

Huh, r29. You're right: you try to have sex with the locals, and they will kill you and rip you apart. Not very appealing.

I saw this at a revival house in Chicago with my ext about 20 years ago, and still think about it. Problem is, when lz Taylor said, then they devoured him! I always thought she said "THen they DEFLOWERED him." My ex, thankfully, set me straight

by Anonymousreply 4403/04/2011

R42- the two are not mutually exclusive. Homophobia is a complex phenomenon. I never said that it was the only reason, but it is one of the reasons.

by Anonymousreply 4503/04/2011

Silence of the Lambs is at the top of any such list. Even the author of the book condemned the movie as homophobic. Michelle Pfeiffer turned down the role, in part, because of the homophobia. Funny how Jodie Foster had no problem with it...

by Anonymousreply 4603/04/2011

R45, binary thinking only, please.

by Anonymousreply 4703/04/2011

basic instict... every single female in that movie is bisexual AND a murderer.

by Anonymousreply 4803/04/2011

Rocky Horror Picture Show?

by Anonymousreply 4903/04/2011

R47- LOL! Forgot I was on datalounge. :)

by Anonymousreply 5003/04/2011

In shared national experience I'd say Hollywood and TV have done more to puncture fears of the weirdness of gay people than any laws, speeches or proclamations.

by Anonymousreply 5103/04/2011

Complex phenomenon, granted.

But it's funny that for someone who's so concerned about homophobia in our popular culture, your first response was to blame gay people for creating and perpetuating it.

Blaming gay people for the problems that face gay people? I would say you're the one dealing in lazy datalounge tropes, not me.

by Anonymousreply 5203/05/2011

The sad part is that it didn't have to be like this. I remember when 'Boys in the Sand' came out gay and straight couples alike would attend screenings at the local supper club, a place where you would dine while watching the film. It was a sign of sophistication and elegance to attend gay films. But it was the insecure, juvenile troublemakers who had to snicker at things that were different that turned the tide on gay acceptance. Much more so than churches at the time.

by Anonymousreply 5303/05/2011

R51- no.

As Shirley McClaine observes in the Celluloid Closet, Hollywood doesn't lead it follows. As gay people fought for our rights, Hollywood tried to jump on the bandwagon. It's ludicrous to make the assertion you're making. Even after the modern gay rights movement had started making strides, Films and television shows continued promoting homophobia. It was only when gay people protested those shows that things started turning around.

And when HIV/AIDS appeared on the scene, Hollywood had the worse reaction. Actors couldn't get work, and were virtually blacklisted.

Sorry, you couldn't be more wrong.

by Anonymousreply 5403/05/2011

I'm emphatically not closeted, and I agree with you, closeted cases are responsible for some of the attacks on the gay community, and they are cowards and assholes. But for every Lindsey Graham there is a Rick Santorum, and a Mike Huckabee, and a Newt Gingrich, and a John McCain, etc.

Gay people who are closeted are closeted because the culture at large is homophobic (and because they are cowardly assholes who aren't brave enough to confront that head on). The vast majority of anti-gay bullshit that gets tossed around comes from straight people (and particularly from straight men). Do you disagree?

You can feel free to heap icy contempt on closeted homophobes. I won't stop you (and I'll join you), but I'm saving most of mine for the people who are doing us (and pretty much every other minority out there) the most damage.

by Anonymousreply 5603/05/2011

Why has NO ONE mentioned the gay "Song of the South" - Al Pacino's 1980 film, 'Cruisin'.

by Anonymousreply 5703/05/2011

The film of 'Basic Instinct' has an interesting backstory, R48.

Originally the Glenn Close character didn't die but preview audiences were outraged: THAT BITCH MUST DIE! was the feedback from men and women so they went back and shot the ending we see today. Realistically, the true villain of the piece should surely be the Michael Douglas character who cheated on his wife and exploited a vulnerable mistress. Of course the film takes great pains to blacken the Glenn Close character (what? She a threat to THE HELPLESS CHILDREN?? KILL HER!!!

And WHAT a death??!!! She's like the undead - put a stake in her!

The movie's sick heterosexual revenge fantasy turned my stomach.

by Anonymousreply 5803/05/2011

r57, OP mentioned it right away.

by Anonymousreply 5903/05/2011

Jeez, r58, you're talking about Fatal Attraction, not Basic Instinct.

by Anonymousreply 6003/05/2011

I can't read!

by Anonymousreply 6103/05/2011

Ouch, R60. An attack of Oldtimers Disease.

Mea culpa!

by Anonymousreply 6203/05/2011

YEs, the Rod Steiger movie The Sergeant - he has to shoot himself when he realieses how he really feels about soldier John Philip Law, who rebuffs his advances. %0D %0D But a lot of those late 60s early 70s trash movies like The Love Machine has the word Fag tossed around all the time. I hope Dyan Cannon cringes if she ever watches herself in it again, the way she keeps calling John Philip Law (again!) a fag as she can get him sacked from his media job if she can prove he is! David Hemmings (sending up his Blowup image) is the very gay photographer who also has the hots for John!

by Anonymousreply 6303/05/2011

"Rocky Horror Picture Show?"

No... you Moron. The Rocky Horror Picture Shows entire message is something to the effect of " Don't just dream your life, Live it". Hardly a homophobic message.

by Anonymousreply 6403/05/2011

Another Gay Movie. It wouldn't be so bad except for the one character.

by Anonymousreply 6503/05/2011

In the original Fatal Attraction, Glenn Close's character kills herself. That's what the Madame Butterfly scene is all about. No?

by Anonymousreply 6603/05/2011

r2, You're right. I loved Eddie but that was horrible, just despicable. No one can gay bash like a gay. Just like back in the day you could tell certain people were passing (JE Hoover, for example) because of their virulent hatred, more than anything.

A Tyler Perry play is pretty up there as well, he doesn't transfer some of the stuff he does i the play to the movie so I guess this doesn't come. I skip movies where I can see that coming.

by Anonymousreply 6703/05/2011

Yes, you're right R66. I got that detail wrong too. Sheesh!

At least the rest of my "making of..." tale is correct, or what's left of it.

by Anonymousreply 6803/05/2011

"Silence Of The Lambs"? Don't really get the Homophobia label just because the villain is perceived to be gay or Transgendered. Just watched it last week again uncut and Lechter clearly says the character thinks he's trans but Lechter says he doesn't think he is, just incredibly insane to be doing what he's doing.

by Anonymousreply 6903/05/2011

Hostel - the characters call each other %E2%80%9Cfaggot%E2%80%9D throughout the entire length of the movie.%0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 7003/05/2011

I watched a copy of "Fatal Attraction" and that scene where he plays the cassette of Alex's creepy diatribe against him, the word "faggot" had disappeared. I distinctly remember her calling him that in the original.

by Anonymousreply 7103/05/2011

R69= legally deaf and blind.

It astonishes me just how stupid some people are.

by Anonymousreply 7203/05/2011

I agree with R69, I don't see Silence of the Lambs to be especially homophobic. Buffalo Bill certainly was a nasty character but I didn't see him represent gays really. He was a psychopath wanting to transform to something else, and his craziness really made him something much more than a gay person, although of course he was that, too.

One might argue, though, that his character was created to be disgusting for both (straight) men and women. Straight men might find the mixture of masculinity and feminity in him very confusing and frightening, and mixed with his nasty and psychopathic personality that makes him something nightmares are made of. On top of that women of course are scared him because of his skin-wanting ways.

In a way I must admit that I don't mind strong and frightening gay characters like Buffalo Bill because they are something straight people are scared of. We can be just as strong and bad as hets are. We are not just some soft dudes from Queer Eye wanting to serve the hets.

And let's not forget that many real serial killers have been gay, e.g. Jeffrey Dahmer, Andrew Cunanan and John Wayne Gacy. So I don't mind at all if some serial killers in the films are gay, if the film itself is not homophobic in other ways, and I don't think Silence was.

by Anonymousreply 7303/06/2011

'Boat Trip' is chock-full of every tired and clich%C3%A9d gay stereotype you can imagine. Truly a colossal piece of celluloid shit if there ever was one.

by Anonymousreply 7403/06/2011

Braveheart -

by Anonymousreply 7503/06/2011

This trailer has to be seen to be believed -

by Anonymousreply 7603/06/2011

Some of you overlook the fact that to the average (ie, straight, young) moviegoer, the villain in SILENCE OF THE LAMBS was, in fact, gay. Really, really gay. The movie played into every cultural myth that gay men despise women to the point of murder, yet want to be them.

Distinctions of "transgender/transvestite/ confused" were and are completely lost on most of the public, and the movie doesn't do that much to clarify them.

It's a homophobic film, and in retrospect, not an especially good one.

by Anonymousreply 7703/06/2011

Oh my God, someone finally put some scenes from "Partners" up on Youtube -

by Anonymousreply 7803/06/2011

"Staircase" was pretty vile.

by Anonymousreply 7903/06/2011

R5, what movie is that?

by Anonymousreply 8003/06/2011

Even though it provided lots of pleasing eye candy, I nominate "Troy". Only because the story was horribly whitewashed to removed the sexual relationship between Achilles and Patroclus, which should have been absolutely central to the whole thing. Instead of being his lover, Patroclus was miraculously became the 'cousin' of Achilles instead. Achilles vows to seek revenge against the Trojan prince Hector only after Hector kills 'cousin' Patroclus. Hollywood really screwed up this time. %0D %0D Apparently the image of two strong heroic men who love each other truly and passionately would have been too much for audiences to believe. Who cares if they change a story that has been around for millennia?

by Anonymousreply 8303/06/2011

Reply #84 does not speak for me.%0D

by Anonymousreply 8503/08/2011

I Love You, I Don't(1976). A gay man tries to love a boyish woman but she can't tolerate the pain of anal sex.

by Anonymousreply 8603/09/2011

Ooh, I think I remember "I love you, I don't" AKA "Je t' non plus". Wasn't it directed by Serge Gainsbourg with Jane Birkin playing the shy, boyish waitress and Joe Dalessandro the gay truck driver?

by Anonymousreply 8703/09/2011

Good One R83 . "It's my ... cousin. That's right, err... cousin."%0D %0D Also, in the French movie La D%C3%A9robade, the young sensitive female prostitute thinks she has found a nice young man. She thinks he romantically respects her.%0D Turns out he wants to be with her because he is a gay transvestite and he wants to share with someone who he thinks will understand difference. %0D The heroine then hysterically collapses. It's clear you are meant to believe she has hit rock bottom with that guy. Prositution is really degrading cause you can meet men who are completely deranged : the worse of them dress as women!%0D %0D Hated this.

by Anonymousreply 8803/09/2011

The TV show Modern Family shows gay men in the most homophobic light ever.%0D Thay are like 2 of the 3 Stooges - Larry and Curley.%0D They exist only to make hetero men feel superior.

by Anonymousreply 8903/09/2011

Well, R78, Partners is certainly a dumb movie, perpetuating dumb stereotypes, but I'll always remember that one of my uncles who was (probably still is) a homophobe had a commetn about how Gays should be treated more fairly, how policemen are needlessly bastards towards them, after watching that film.%0D %0D But then, I suppose it tells more about some people in my family than the film itself.%0D %0D And, yes, Suddenly Last Summer. Not only is it homophobic but also xenophobic. And over the top! Yeesh!

by Anonymousreply 9003/09/2011

r89 please Mary. All the families on Modern Family are clownish, not just the gay men. Save your outrage for real homophobia.

by Anonymousreply 9103/09/2011

Thinking like R92 here.%0D The timing is funny and lets face it, the father/king is the entertaining vilain of the film. He does quantity of heinous things. %0D %0D If it hadn't been made by Mel Gibson, who happens to be homophobe, I would still find it funny.%0D %0D As it is, it takes another tone, when I remember who wrote it.

by Anonymousreply 9303/09/2011

Don't forget about me -

by Anonymousreply 9403/09/2011

Any movie that has audience members yelling "Kill the fag!" at the screen is likely to be intentionally homophobic. "Braveheart" is such a movie. At every theatre on earth where that movie was shown, people yelled "Kill the fag!" when the king threw the gay guy to his death. And that gay prince did NOT EXIST during the lifetime of William wallace.

by Anonymousreply 9503/10/2011

I also remember that, r71.

by Anonymousreply 9603/10/2011

I agree with the poster who mentioned "A Different Story". Any movie which attempts to 'turn' a gay man straight is vile in my book.

by Anonymousreply 9803/10/2011

Anything gay-for-pay.

by Anonymousreply 9903/11/2011

[quote]Any movie that has audience members yelling "Kill the fag!" at the screen is likely to be intentionally homophobic. "Braveheart" is such a movie. At every theatre on earth where that movie was shown, people yelled "Kill the fag!" when the king threw the gay guy to his death. And that gay prince did NOT EXIST during the lifetime of William wallace.

Dear God. What a flashback. I saw 'Braveheart' on opening weekend. The claps and cheers from the audience when the "homosexual" was tossed to his death gave me the chills.

Moments like that sharply remind me that no matter how much tolerance and acceptance the straight folk claim to have, in reality, behind those kind smiles, they really wish every one of us would "go away". We all know where that type of thinking leads.

by Anonymousreply 10003/11/2011

"No one can gay bash like a gay." How true! Remember Dom Deluise as the emperor in Mel Brooks' "History of the World: Part 1"? He issues the immortal line: "Ok, faggot! What's next?" Oh, the irony.

by Anonymousreply 10102/19/2012

The Abominable Dr. Phibes.

makes queens with mascara look evil.

by Anonymousreply 10202/19/2012

I don't see anything wrong with bad guys being gay. The gay community has its fair share of jerks like any other group of people.

Demeaning portrayal of gay characters and reducing them to a punchline is what offends me.

I hate "Made for each other" which is some cheap comedy with the Masterson brothers. One guy bangs his friend's mother. When the friend is getting suspicious the guy claims to be gay. In the end the truth comes out and the friend is perfectly ok with the guy banging his mom since that means he doesn't have a gay friend to deal with after all.

by Anonymousreply 10302/19/2012


Anyway, let's not forget that Cuba Gooding, Jr. thing in which he went on a gay cruise.

by Anonymousreply 10504/06/2012

All About Eve.

by Anonymousreply 10604/06/2012

I agree in regards to "The Lion King". I normally love me some Disney, but I've only watched that movie once (I have it on VHS). The gay villain was just completely unnecessary in a children's film - that's just wrong and damaging to susceptible minds.

by Anonymousreply 10704/06/2012

Waiting with Ryan Reynolds, it seemed the whole point of the movie was just to degrade and insult gay men.

I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry

Of course one issue is the fact that gay men are at best totally ignored and omitted from almost all Hollywood films, when they do appear, they are only there as camp fun for straights to mock and laugh at.

by Anonymousreply 10804/06/2012

Um I'll assume we're aware 'Boys in the Band' and 'Boys in the Sand' are different movies.

Casey Donovan's 'Boys in the Sand' was most certainly NOT shown in public theaters.

Thanks for the laugh

by Anonymousreply 10904/06/2012

Diary of a Mad Housewife

"You're a FAG!"

by Anonymousreply 11004/06/2012

[quote] Silence of the Lambs is at the top of any such list. Even the author of the book condemned the movie as homophobic.

Well he's a hypocritical asshole because the character was far more stereotypically mincingly gay in the book than in the movie.

by Anonymousreply 11204/06/2012

Always hated those "fag must die" moves which were pretty common in the old days, but the ones that get under my skin are those Roman Empire epics. The emperor was always portrayed as some rancid queen who was inevitably twelve eggs short of a dozen - see "Quo Vadis", "The Robe", et al.

by Anonymousreply 11304/06/2012

The Hangover, Braveheart, Silence of the Lambs? You guys have to go farther back. I think of Shirley MacLaine's character in "The Children's Hour" where she breaks down and screams "I'm sick in the head!" (bc she is a lesbian). She then hangs herself.

by Anonymousreply 11404/06/2012

What about the beloved gay "icon" Streisand? In "For Pete's Sake" she tells an effeminate grocery store clerk, "Keep the Fruit Loops, you'll love them!"

by Anonymousreply 11504/06/2012

"No Way Out"

by Anonymousreply 11604/06/2012

Pretty much all of Ryan Reynold's movies. He made a career out of fratboy homophobia.

by Anonymousreply 11704/06/2012

I don't have a problem with the villain in Silence of the Lambs. I do have a problem with the fact that nobody seems to have the faintest idea how to sew and they not know the difference between a dart and a gusset.

by Anonymousreply 11804/06/2012

Braveheart isn't just homophobic because of turning the death of the prince's lover into a joke, but also William Wallace has to impregnant the prince's wife at the end.

In truth, the princess was six years old and in France at the time of Wallace's death.

Derek Jarman made a good movie of the Marlowe play, Edward II about him.

But the real history is interesting, Edward II was deposed because people felt his male favorites had too much power over him, which was probably a fair criticism. I remember a history professor of mine said that at first, his wife was fine with her husband's male lovers because that meant no female rivals at court and no bastard children of the king to contend with. But when he stopped having sex with her all together and lavished honors that should have been hers on his lovers, she got pissed.

But Mel Gibson made Prince Edward into this fey ineffectual joke, when the real Edward was a formidable figure in his youth - and no dummy. It's just his passions got the better of him.

by Anonymousreply 11904/06/2012


by Anonymousreply 12004/06/2012

Maybe I'm twisted, but I love antiquated movies like "Windows," "Partners," and "A Different Story" just because they seem to come from another dimension.

And I don't think "Cruising" is a homophobic movie at all.

There's a 1960s movie called "The Gay Deceivers" about two gays who pretend to be gay so they don't have to go to Vietnam. Some of it is absolutely cringeworthy, but it's such a relic that it's hard to be too offended.

I've never seen "Braveheart" (and never plan to do so) but the window scene sounds like Mel Gibson through and through.

by Anonymousreply 12104/06/2012

^ "...two GUYS who pretend to be gay..."

by Anonymousreply 12204/06/2012

The problem with "Gay Deceivers" is the coda where the father explains the effect that playing gay will have on their life, e.g., never be able to have a government job, never pass a security clearance, etc. While it may have been completely accurate at the time, the fact that it was obviously tacked on, possibly after the fact, is pretty creepy and ends the film on a sour note.

by Anonymousreply 12304/06/2012

Add American Beauty to the list. This piece of shit got an oscar for having a closet case be the killer man.

by Anonymousreply 12404/06/2012

Reprehensible as A DIFFERENT STORY is, I was surprised that the tone of the film wasn't mean-spirited.

But things haven't changed too much. Not too long ago, there was a British mini-series called BOB AND ROSE, in which a gay man winds up being attracted to a woman and they fall in love. It was made by the same guy who did the British QAF and TORCHWOOD.

I saw it and noticed that the general depiction of gay life was not positive. But then I felt the same way about QAF: sex-obsessed, dead-end lives.

Yet people who would trash A DIFERENT STORY were just delighted with BOB & ROSE.

by Anonymousreply 12504/06/2012

'I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry' has few rivals. And that Ving Rhames part was the limit.

by Anonymousreply 12604/06/2012

There's homophobic content, and then there's homophobic editing.

Cat on a Hot Tin Roof comes to mind, when any mention of what the "issue" was between Skipper and Brick is cut out to the point that if you don't know - the plot makes no sense.

by Anonymousreply 12704/06/2012

Uh R124 - If anything, the moral of the story is that if the closet case wasn't in such deep denial, he wouldn't have been such a psycho to his wife, kid, and ultimately his neighbors. I don't see it as homophobic, I see it as condemning the closet. His violence had nothing to do with being queer, it had to do with being queer and not being able to handle it.

by Anonymousreply 12804/06/2012

R15, you are half right.

Edward II indeed did exist, and he became the King of England in 1307, two years after Wallace's death. Edward was indeed rumored to be homosexual, and that his lover was Piers Gaveston. He was the heir apparent during the First War of Scottish Independence.

Gaveston was killed in 1312, by sword, not by being thrown out the window, and yes, changing the nature and timeline of that event to suit the film is homophobic.

by Anonymousreply 12904/06/2012

I think some cases of homophobia in movies can be attributed to simple HABIT moreso than straight guys' demand to see gay men degraded.

In the early days of cinema, it was more rampant for many reasons discussed in The Celluloid Closet. Nowadays, it's just a vestige, and film makers are not as creative these days, so they rely on these old bits...when in reality the laughs don't play out as well as they used to.

This is true for a lot of slapstick humor - it's just very dated...and it keeps making little 'comebacks' when filmmakers get lazy.

Yeah, sometimes homophobic humor is included in media to directly satisfy the demographic, but sometimes it's just a leftover from an era, and if it were erased, MOST people wouldn't 'miss' it.

by Anonymousreply 13004/06/2012

[quote]I don't see anything wrong with bad guys being gay.

The problem is that classic film portrayals of gay men were ALWAYS bad. It was an excuse to keep us in the Closet.

Why don't you know that?

by Anonymousreply 13104/06/2012

R125, Wasn't the plot inspired by a friend of his though?

by Anonymousreply 13204/06/2012

No Way Out is the worst because it comes from an era of gay consciousness AND Will Patton plays a toady with an unrequited love for a straight man who is willing to take..and given the blame, for events, to protect his hero.

by Anonymousreply 13304/06/2012

Plus he's a creepy killer on top of that. And a worshipper of power. And self-loathing. And just horrible in every way, shape, and form.

Plus he's a fucking Patton.

by Anonymousreply 13404/06/2012

Chuck and Larry. Just, wow.

by Anonymousreply 13504/06/2012

Other films in which gay characters are dehumanized and killed for fun are Lucky Number Slevin and Crank. In Crank the guy is a friend of the hero, but he is still a laughable fag who gets shot and hilariously used as a human shield for 10 minutes. (This is of course also the hero who rapes his own girlfriend and is cheered on by the people in the street. I can't believe this movie.)

by Anonymousreply 13604/06/2012

Excuse me, but to show the immaturity of Bradley Cooper's character by letting him use the word "faggot" twice doesn't put Hangover anywhere near the top 1000 homophobic films of all time. The racism is more problematic in this one.

by Anonymousreply 13704/06/2012

I'm as offended by Mickey Rooney's Asian characterization in Breakfast AT Tiffany's as any of the homophobic movies listed here, Blake Edwards should have made a directors cut before he died. Rooney could easily have been left on the cutting room floor, with only a positive effect on the movie. He is just awful.

by Anonymousreply 13804/06/2012

The gay wedding scene in SATC2. It should be classified as a hate crime.

by Anonymousreply 13904/06/2012

Need to cast James Franco in remake of Cruising--Hot!

by Anonymousreply 14004/06/2012

Yeah - I find "Gay Deceivers" dated more than homophobic.

by Anonymousreply 14104/06/2012

Homophobic editing: I really hate A Streetcar Named Desire movie for degaying Blanche's husband. The whole story made no sense that way. Yeah, it might be from 1950, but it pisses me off.

by Anonymousreply 14204/06/2012

Somehow, "Elephant" comes to mind -- making the Columbine killers gay lovers, kissing as they shower together. Like some right-winger decided their desire to kill wasn't perversion enough, they must be gay too! I love Gus but that was sooooo weird, impossible to rationalize. A jaw dropper.

Said it before and, weird as it sounds, no movie pissed me off more than "Legally Blonde". The witness identified as gay because he knew women's shoe brand (as if) so therefore couldn't be woman's lover (again, as if), already stupid enough -- but then he turns into raging queen on the spot and his fellow raging queen chimes in with "You bitch!"

I literally wanted to kill the two women who wrote that piece of shit. "Kill the gay" ala "Braveheart" is the worst but "Gay by cliched behavior" is really bad too.

by Anonymousreply 14304/06/2012

I haven't seen Elephant, but didn't they kiss because they were going to die? And of course together? That makes sense to me, poetically, no matter the character's gender and sexual orientation.

Gus main motivation was of course that he likes boys to kiss.

by Anonymousreply 14404/06/2012

A sad kiss before the end sounds nice and poetic... but this was a brief makeout session in the shower. Matter of fact, like they showered together all the time. Like I said, not sure if really offensive or just... bizarre. Watch film and report back what you think.

by Anonymousreply 14504/06/2012

The 1986 Clint Eastwood movie about the invasion of Grenada, "Heartbreak Ridge."

It inspired what is one of the funniest Pauline Kael reviews ever:

"It's well known that many people have strong feelings about anal intercourse, but it's doubtful if a whole movie had ever been devoted to the expression of those feelings until this one. Clint Eastwood, who directed, plays (so to speak) a Medal of Honor winner from the Korean War and a decorated Vietnam vet--a Marine gunner sergeant whose abhorrence of being put in a passive sexual position seems to be what makes him super-tough and manly. The marines in his platoon stand waiting while Old Gunny wraps his jowls around witless scurrilous insults, all involving what he's going to shove up their orifices. This should be the portrait of a pathetic vulgarian militarist with terrible anal-aggressive problems, but Eastwood presents him as a great fighting man, a relic of a time when men were men. And, in the last half hour, the film presents proof of what Gunny's training does for his platoon: it celebrates Grenada as a victory that evens the score, after a tie in Korea and a loss in Vietnam. This movie is offensive on just about every level."

by Anonymousreply 14604/06/2012

That is one of those ...sad attempts by gays that makes us look bad things. When Columbine happened a lot of gay people said, well they must be gay and oppressed. They weren't gay, they weren't oppressed, and they definitely never showered together. The right of course, insisted for years afterward that they were gay, but the evidence was all against that. However, some dumb little queens decided to make a movie portraying them as oppressed gays to make them more sympathetic. Mad and crazy self-loathing, the same way gays embraced Philadelphia for scaring the public into thinking their homophobia would be met by lawsuits, which never happened either in Philadelphia nor anywhere else.

Sometimes gays who don't think through what they are doing are as dumb and self-hating as homophobes.

by Anonymousreply 14704/06/2012

WINDOWS is on Youtube. It's truly one for the books. Ashley said she only took it because her agent advised her that she had turned down too many movie and TV roles to focus on Broadway work, and that if she kept doing that, the phones would stop ringing.

But a bizzare movie. Ashley's psychotic behavior is never explained, so it's assumed that because she's a lesbian, she's insane. She paid for Shire to get raped, so she could listen to the tapes. And WTF was up with Talia Shire getting back in the cab even though she knew the driver was the one who raped her?

by Anonymousreply 14804/06/2012

I found No Way Out totally unbelievable. A gay man is going to crush on Gene Hackman when Kevin Costner, in navy whites, is there?

by Anonymousreply 14904/06/2012

I just watched Evening (2007) the other day and while I wouldn't necessarily call it homophobic, it also wasn't the most progressive examination of the topic.

It was actually rather archiac (spoilers ahead if you've not seen it): Hugh Dancy's character is named Buddy, who has apparently been suppressing his desire for the housekeeper's hunky son (Patrick Wilson) for years, so much so that now he's a raging alcoholic, desperately trying to convince himself that he's in love with Claire Danes and when she publicly shames him, he stumbles after her and Wilson (who are heading off to make love) and gets killed by a hit-and-run driver.

You'd think it was 1957 and not 2007 when this movie was made. And to think that Michael Cunningham co-wrote the screenplay.

by Anonymousreply 15004/06/2012

R128, I agree that's the moral of the story. But I see it as a poor, even if it can be accurate in hopefully very few cases, potrayal of homosexuals.

by Anonymousreply 15204/07/2012

[quote]WINDOWS is on Youtube. It's truly one for the books. Ashley said she only took it because her agent advised her that she had turned down too many movie and TV roles to focus on Broadway work, and that if she kept doing that, the phones would stop ringing. But a bizzare movie. Ashley's psychotic behavior is never explained, so it's assumed that because she's a lesbian, she's insane. She paid for Shire to get raped, so she could listen to the tapes. And WTF was up with Talia Shire getting back in the cab even though she knew the driver was the one who raped her?

Thanks, r148 - I've wanted to see this for years and watched it last night after reading your post.

It was directed by one of the all-time great cinematographers, Gordon Willis, so it was inexplicable how bad it looked (Willis never directed again). Elizabeth Ashley is the most understated she's ever been - she actually looks embarrassed much of the time. Talia Shire just cries and looks catatonic.

Besides the homophobic aspect, none of this makes any sense whatsoever... we never find out how or why these women know each other. The part where Shire realizes her cab driver was her rapist, convinces him to let her out to make a call, then gets back in the cab and lets him drive her away is a high point in implausible cinema.

You know from the beginning that Talia Shire's cat is in for it (particularly after it scratches Ashley), and I really didn't want to see its mangled corpse, but when it happens it's such a fake, ludicrous dime-store model of a cat that I busted out laughing. Hard to believe this was the same man who made "Annie Hall" and the Godfather movies look so good.

by Anonymousreply 15304/07/2012

Schindler's list

by Anonymousreply 15404/07/2012

From Slap Shot, the most homophobic lines of all time:

Reggie Dunlop: You know, your son looks like a fag to me.

Anita McCambridge: I beg your pardon?

Reggie Dunlop: You better get re-married again, or he's gonna have someone's cock in his mouth before you can say Jack Robinson.

by Anonymousreply 15504/07/2012

Slap Shot is a movie about moron hockey players, R155, what did you expect? But at the same time it had Paul Newman walking around in head-to-toe leather outfits. Go figure.

by Anonymousreply 15604/07/2012

I don't think Children's Hour should be lumped in with the others. The characters are handled sensitively - and James Garner's character is not particularly judgmental. Characters in the film are "homophobic" (even though that wasn't a word in the 1960s). The fact that Shirley's character say's "I'm sick" and hangs herself may come from homophobia, both internal and external but it doesn't mean the film is homophobic.

by Anonymousreply 15704/07/2012

"Freebie And The Bean" - probably around 1975. Alan Arkin, and real life homophobe, James Caan, star as 2 detectives. All I remember, is at the end of the movie, in Candlestick Park bathroom, Caan , and a tranny, have a fight, with the tranny starting to kick Caan senseless, with her pumps, while he calls her some vile names. Then, of course, Caan gets up , with a magnum 44, and shoots her several times, in slo-mo, watching her body explode, with bullets, while the audience cheered. Never forgot it. Made me sick.

by Anonymousreply 15804/07/2012

'American Beauty' has the friendly high-achieving gay couple who, as new neighbours, call on the closet case. Their decency and warmth makes him and his reactions look shabby.

Also when Spacey rejects the closet case he does it with gentleness, even understanding. This makes the closet look even more twisted and trapped. But then he's a Nazi as well, which helps.

by Anonymousreply 15904/07/2012

Gee, all this time and nobody has mentioned the gay assassins in Diamonds are Forever? Again, when they get flambe-ed at the end the audience cheered.

by Anonymousreply 16004/07/2012

Human Centipede

by Anonymousreply 16104/07/2012

Not so much tragically homophobic as a cop-out and severely missed opportunity from people who should have known better:

James Garner professing his love to Victor in "Victor/Victoria", the sweet line "I don't care if you ARE a man." Could've been such a wonderful ode to love finding its own way (ala "Crying Game").

Instead, they have to show James Garner beforehand sneaking around and seeing Julie Andrews topless so he knows she is a woman. Total butch assurance bullshit that ruined an otherwise great film -- or, should I say, a potentially great film.

Gays embraced it anyway but I'm not sure why. Guess we'll settle for crumbs. But big time cop out.

by Anonymousreply 16204/07/2012

Sleeping Beauty. It's not what they say, it's what they don't say.

by Anonymousreply 16304/07/2012

I guess I am the James Garner troll but when James says "I don't care if you ARE a man" in Victor/Victoria, he delivers the line in a way that shows there is still some doubt in his mind, but fuck it - he doesn't care. Granted it's a musical comedy set in musical comedy land, but that would be a rather daring thing for a theoretically straight man to say in 1934.

by Anonymousreply 16404/08/2012

And don't forget that Victor/Victoria had Alex Karras playing a gay man. Of course, it also had Robert Preston playing a gay stereotype...

by Anonymousreply 16504/08/2012

[quote]Casey Donovan's 'Boys in the Sand' was most certainly NOT shown in public theaters.

That is not true.

[quote]Boys in the Sand had its theatrical debut on December 29, 1971, at the 55th Street Playhouse in New York City. Poole engaged in an unprecedented pre-release publicity campaign, including screening parties and full-page ads in The New York Times and Variety.

[quote]The film made back most of its production and promotions budget the day it opened, grossing close to $6,000 in the first hour, and nearly $25,000 during its first week, landing it on Variety's list of the week's 50 top grossing films. Positive word of mouth spread and the film was favorably reviewed in Variety ("There are no more closets!"), The Advocate ("Everyone will fall in love with this philandering fellator.") and other outlets, which previously had completely ignored the genre. While some critics were less impressed, others saw the film as akin to the avant-garde work of directors like Kenneth Anger and Andy Warhol. Within six months the film had grossed $140,000 and was continuing to open in theatres across the United States and around the world.

by Anonymousreply 16604/08/2012

I'd need to see the movie again -- but, again, that kiss would've been radical had he not known for a fact that Julie Andrews was a woman (he still could've found out after and the message be strong... he was attracted to/in love with someone that didn't fit his physical prototype, even in gender). Didn't he see her naked from the waist up through the window? (Sorry, getting senile with movie memories).

Again, not so offensive -- even Robert Preston was savvy enough not to bug me -- but a point defeater. I recall someone saying how offensive Lesley Ann Warren was (a mini-drag queen in and of herself) but can't remember why. But guys were all over it anyway, then and now.

by Anonymousreply 16704/09/2012

The Childrens Hour was a great movie. I can see why Shirley McClaine would say that she was sick in the head. She knew she was in love with her best friend and this film was made in 1962. Were they still locking us up back then? You have to remember society as a whole was taught that these feelings were not just a sign of mental illness, but an actual sickness in and of itself.

by Anonymousreply 16804/09/2012

55th Street Playhouse was a porn palace, not a regular theater.

by Anonymousreply 16904/10/2012

Slap Shot.

When somebody says this is their favorite movie, I think often times this is one of the reasons.

by Anonymousreply 17108/05/2012

Anything Adam Sandler.

by Anonymousreply 17208/05/2012

That's odd, since Paul Newman was so pro-gay. He said he was never homophobic and it always bothered him that other people were so judgmental about what people do in their bedrooms.

by Anonymousreply 17308/05/2012

Boys Beware!

by Anonymousreply 17408/05/2012

He may have had that belief system later in life, R173. But, during Slap Shot, he didn't - or didn't enough to say "let's rethink the anti-gay lines in this film."

by Anonymousreply 17508/05/2012

"Boys Beware": here's the whole thing.

by Anonymousreply 17608/05/2012

I believe Newman when he said he was never anti-gay. You may not know it but he was trying to get a pro-gay movie made in the 70s called The Runner, which he planned to star in. But even as the superstar he was, there was too much studio resistance to ever get it made. I don't doubt that Slap Shot has homophobia in it, but Newman must've thought it was just a character study, a realistic portrayal of homophobic jocks.

by Anonymousreply 17708/05/2012

Maybe you're right, R177. Good points.

by Anonymousreply 17808/05/2012

178 posts and no mention of IRREVERSIBLE?


The most homophobic film of all time. The beginning at the gay club is unbelievable but then as the film progresses the gay killer rapes Monica Bellucci. Yes, a gay man rapes a woman.

Gaspar Noé is shit.t

by Anonymousreply 17908/05/2012

"A Different Story" ... Yikes. Thanks R36, I was wracking my brain trying to remember the title of that awfulness.

I agree with everyone who hated Braveheart, awful piece of made-up, homophobic, bullshit.

Not the same thing, but this thread brought it to mind; I was watching "The Daytrippers" on Lifetime one day, purely by random chance. There's a gay kiss right near the end, which is the whole point of the movie, and Lifetime cut it.

by Anonymousreply 18008/05/2012

Thousands expected to attend Our Lady of Guadalupe celebration

August 5, 2012 | 12:02 pm

Tens of thousands of people are expected to crowd into the Coliseum for a celebration Sunday afternoon honoring Our Lady of Guadalupe, an event organizers described as the "largest celebration of the Virgin Mary in a generation."

More than 100,000 tickets were ordered for the celebration, which will be hosted by the Archdiocese of Los Angeles and the Knights of Columbus. The event is scheduled to begin at 3 p.m., but organizers urged those with tickets to arrive well ahead of time to avoid traffic. Doors will open at 12:30 p.m.

The roughly three-hour program will feature musical performances and prayers led by notables including baseball player Mike Piazza and [bold]"Braveheart" producer Steve McEveety.[/bold]

Archbishop Jose Gomez is listed among the keynote speakers.

Catholics have long revered the symbol of Our Lady of Guadalupe, who was said to have appeared in the 1500s to Juan Diego on a hillside near Mexico City. The Archdiocese of Los Angeles houses the only relic of Juan Diego's tilma — the cloak upon which the Virgin Mary left her image — in the United States.

by Anonymousreply 18108/05/2012

The Hangover owns this thread.

by Anonymousreply 18208/05/2012

More like, just guys doing guys, R182.

by Anonymousreply 18308/05/2012

The Wizard of Oz

Witch) Who killed my sister

Dorothy) I did I hate lezzies


Witch) Stop don't throw that water

Dorothy) I love Anita Bryant


by Anonymousreply 18408/05/2012

Her image was stunningly labial, R181. I always wondered if she was trying to tell us something.

by Anonymousreply 18508/05/2012

The Birdcage was pretty effective at demonizing gays.

by Anonymousreply 18608/05/2012


by Anonymousreply 18710/01/2012

R80, "The Boys Next Door" (1985) with Charlie Sheen and Maxwell Caulfield.

by Anonymousreply 18810/01/2012

That awful one with Cuba Gooding where he goes on the boat cruise which turns out to be a gay cruise ... Roger Moore also turns up to poke fun at the gays.

Those movies like The Sergeant (Steiger shoots himself when he realises he loves John Philip Law) and Sinatra's The Detective in the 60s where gays are just fags to be abused - the gay bar in Advise and Consent in 1962 is like one of the circles of hell as we see Don Murray's horror looking at it and of course his navy buddy ends up in the gutter as Don flees in a taxi .... now of course he too has to kill himself .

Barbra's character in The Owl and the Pussycat taunts George Segal that he is a fag - as does Dyan Cannon to John Philip Law again in The love Machine - if she can prove he is a fag he can be fired from his tv job!

by Anonymousreply 18910/01/2012


by Anonymousreply 19010/01/2012

In reality, there are a lot of homophobic people out there, but i don't believe that in cinema there are really any homophobic films. In cinema, homosexuality is not considered as a disease even when the characters seem somehow grotesque. There are characters in movies that loath gays in general, but what counts is the gist of the movie that does not approve of that hate. I have never seen a movie that is a propaganda against homosexuality. Usually, it's the critics of a movie that can be homophobic, not the film itself.

by Anonymousreply 19111/12/2012


by Anonymousreply 19211/15/2012

When I saw the Weimar-era German film that "Victor/Victoria" is based on I was astonished at how completely gayness-free it was. The original German character who draws Viktoria into the world of female impersonation (the precursor to Robert Preston) is himself a professional female impersonator, straight offstage (he's given a female romantic interest of his own). And the James Garner character (played by the real-life gay Anton Walbrook) is a hetero who figures out early on that "Viktor" is really a girl and playfully makes her do guy things that she has trouble pulling off, like allowing herself to be shaved with a straight razor and smoking cigars.

by Anonymousreply 19311/15/2012

What can I do for you, r192?

by Anonymousreply 19411/15/2012

[quote] ...gays embraced Philadelphia for scaring the public into thinking their homophobia would be met by lawsuits, which never happened either in Philadelphia nor anywhere else.

"The events in the film are similar to the events in the lives of attorneys Geoffrey Bowers and Clarence B. Cain.

Bowers was an attorney who in 1987 sued the law firm Baker & McKenzie for wrongful dismissal in one of the first AIDS discrimination cases. Cain was an attorney for Hyatt Legal Services who was fired after his employer found out he had AIDS. He sued Hyatt in 1990 and won just before his death."

by Anonymousreply 19501/05/2013

Most movies, even insignificant, have homophobia in them. It's an inherent flaw in the world. Thankfully, it's becoming more and more unacceptable.

by Anonymousreply 19601/05/2013

R179 wins. I'm horrified that that homophobic movie didn't get more press. I felt similarly horrified when the Chick-Fil-A bigots turned out en masse.

by Anonymousreply 19701/05/2013

They Only Kill Their Masters plot concerns a lesbian being killed by a doberman and investigators James Garner and Katherine Ross think it's the most hilarious thing they've ever come across.

by Anonymousreply 19801/05/2013

Clint Eastwood films...

by Anonymousreply 19901/05/2013

Slap Shot (1977). I became physically ill with all the "fag bashing" and rampant homophobia in that film. I was only 16 when I saw it, but I walked out before it was over. VILE.

by Anonymousreply 20001/06/2013

Silence of the lambs is NOT homophobic. Buffalo Bill is based on Ed Gein, who was a real and did make a suit out of women, as well as other objects. Simple as that.

by Anonymousreply 20101/26/2013

R199 Clint Eastwood films are not homophobic. Clint may be moving into Rethug territory politically, but he supports gay rights and even went on record a little over a year ago saying he supports gay marriage. He may have stupidly supported a jackass in the last election, but he's not homophobic. As a matter of fact, his 1974 movie 'Thunderbolt & Lightfoot' was probably one of the most HOMO-EROTIC movies of all-time. A great movie, too. He and young Jeff Bridges looked totally hot for each other throughout.

by Anonymousreply 20201/26/2013

I agree with R202. I have seen most of Eastwood's movies and I can't recall any homophobia in any of them. I love the line in Magnum Force where one cop tells Harry Callahan that three rookie sharp-shooter cops are rumored to be 'queer for each other'. Eastwood's Callahan replied, "If everybody shot like them, I wouldn't care if the entire force was queer." That was 1973. He did speak out supporting gay marriage too===

by Anonymousreply 20301/26/2013

R201 Agreed. Silence of the Lambs was NOT homophobic at all.

by Anonymousreply 20401/26/2013

Anyone remember the self loathing gay killer after Lauren Bacall in the Fan?

by Anonymousreply 20601/27/2013

"Reflections in a Golden Eye", with Marlon Brando, Elizabeth Taylor and Robert Forster. One of Brando's top performances. Directed by John Huston.

by Anonymousreply 20701/27/2013

[quote]Anyone remember the self loathing gay killer after Lauren Bacall in the Fan?

He wanted hearts, not diamonds.

by Anonymousreply 20801/27/2013

Hearts, Not Diamonds was by Tim Rice and Hamlisch, wtf?!

Yet the staging looks like knock-off Fosse doing Kander and Ebb.

by Anonymousreply 20901/27/2013

Whats amusing now is listening to how the word 'fag' is bandied about in those 60s-70ish films like Valley of the Dolls, The Detective, The Love Machine etc. where gays are routinely dismissed as fags. The Detective is very homophobic actually, where Sinatra and his police pals trash the gays who are seen as pathetic outsiders - the murderer of the gay man would rather be seen as a murderer than a homosexual.

Dyan Cannon particularly relishes the word in The Love Machine where she can get John Philip Law sacked from his tv job if she can prove he is a fag ! Delirious !

Going from trash to class, Billy Wilder was very dismissive of gays too and routinely called them fags, though he was friendly with David Hockney in his later years, so he may have releted.

by Anonymousreply 21001/27/2013


There is a freezing rain advisory in Chicago.

DO NOT...REPEAT...DO NOT go out unless you have to, and then use EXTREME...REPEAT...EXTREME caution.

Have a great day.

by Anonymousreply 21101/27/2013

"Irreversible" wins this thread.

by Anonymousreply 21201/27/2013

Not film, but it's surprising to see reruns of THREE's COMPANY and the homophobia it had.

by Anonymousreply 21301/27/2013

I agree that Silence of the Lambs was not a homophobic movie. Buffalo Bill was not presented as gay but self-hating to the point that he thought he was transgender -- that's what really gets portrayed in a negative light, not homosexuality.

by Anonymousreply 21401/27/2013

Braveheart. For, among so many other things, having Wallace sire Edward III. Isabella never fucked Wallace. In fact she was nine years old at the time Wallace died.

That entire plot device, straight stud fathers King of England, depriving Edward II of his fatherhood and virility, let alone his humanity, is vile.

It's a throwback to an earlier time as well as a sensationalistic lie.

by Anonymousreply 21501/27/2013

It was homophobic because we didn't have just Buffalo Bill. We also had Hannibal Lechter. Duh.

by Anonymousreply 21601/27/2013

I think it is The Boys in the Band. It played up all the gay stereotypes, mainly the destructive qualities.

by Anonymousreply 21701/27/2013

R217, I am an eldergay and I agree with you about The Boys in the Band. I saw it in 1970, as a young man, and it almost drove me back into the closet. I did not want to be like any of those screaming, screeching, womanly cunts. I hated it, because it seemed to show gays as homophobic straights saw us (limp-wristed, squealing, diva-ish, catty, loud, obnoxious, and promiscuous).

by Anonymousreply 21801/27/2013

1. Braveheart

2. Slap Shot

by Anonymousreply 21901/27/2013

The Hunger Games. All the people in evil Capitol City seem to be very gay.

None of the good guys in the Districts look anything but straight.

by Anonymousreply 22001/27/2013

Braveheart terrified me when I saw it in a theatre and the entire audience CHEERED LOUDLY when the gay prince got thrown out of the castle window, falling to his death.

That prince did not even exist historically. Mel Gibson wrote him into the story so he could kill a faggot. And Jodie Foster evidently never asked Melabout this.

by Anonymousreply 22101/27/2013

If you want to see Edward II get his due, albeit in a blatant fantasy, read Ken Follett's World Without End and watch the miniseries where Ben Chaplin plays the role heroically and with great dignity. Of course it's just as historically unfaithful as Braveheart but it's blatantl.

by Anonymousreply 22201/27/2013

CRUISING was made by a gay man as a reaction to gay-bashing. DUH.

by Anonymousreply 22302/11/2013


by Anonymousreply 22502/11/2013

The Wizard of Oz. It's so clear that the tinman wanted to shove his tin schlong up the lion's butt. He was jonesing for it the entire time.

The wicked witches were clealy lezzers. And the flying gay monkeys? That film was the most homophobic thing ever to come out of Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 22602/11/2013

Buffalo '66

a friend and I walked out after the Vincent Gallo character freaked out over something gay that involved a bathroom stall maybe, I can't even remember. just boring and pretentious

also Magic Mike for cutting out all the homosex between all the dancers that was going on 24/7, sanitizing Carol O'Neal's stripper past and adding female love interests to make it a chick film.

oh, and Deliverance

by Anonymousreply 22702/11/2013

Mean street with harvey keitel.

by Anonymousreply 22802/11/2013

I sort of agree with a sentiment someone expressed upthread. Sometimes dated movies' bigotries are so removed from what we actually experience, it doesn't even offend. The movie just seems like some bizarre artifact from an alien place and time.

I was a senior in high school when Cruising came out and I refused to see it. There were actual protests at screenings not to mention that a couple of murders were attributed to the film. (That is, straight guys watching the film and decided to bash queers to death).

But about 20 years later I saw the film, and though I recognized it for the piece of homophobic shit that it is, the depiction of gay bars and gay sex was just laughably off base.

Just because you're not personally offended by a film, or book or t.v. show, it doesn't mean the film/ show/ book isn't actually selling homophobia. I always think it's funny that the troll whose message is we should just "toughen up" is too stupid to realize there's nothing tough about just taking shit from others.

by Anonymousreply 22902/11/2013


by Anonymousreply 23002/11/2013

Anything with that fascist Deanna Durbin.

by Anonymousreply 23102/11/2013

This is obviously the most of all time. I give you this.

by Anonymousreply 23203/23/2013

For R221:The gay prince did exist historically, he was Edward II. He did have a gay lover and a French wife but everything else in Braveheart was pure horseshit.

by Anonymousreply 23303/23/2013

The Birdcage.

by Anonymousreply 23403/23/2013

R221, we've addressed this issue repeatedly about history. At least TRY to read some other responses.

by Anonymousreply 23605/27/2013

Just saw a homophobic start to "High Anxiety." Mel Brooks was a homophobe.

by Anonymousreply 23705/27/2013

He said that's why he did it, but obviously he had been reading up on Nazi atrocities and that's what fascinated him.

by Anonymousreply 23905/27/2013

There is zero evidence Ed Gein was homosexual.

by Anonymousreply 24005/27/2013

Blazing Saddles. That ending is atrocious.

by Anonymousreply 24105/27/2013

Gotta go with Eddie Murphy's "Delirious" (1983) and especially "Raw" (1987). I always hated his stand-up. All he ever did was rip off the far superior Richard Pryor. I hate Eddie Murphy with the heat of 1,000 suns. As we've learned, his homophobia seems to stem from self-hatred. What, with all the tranny encounters and his supposed long-time live in love affair with R & B singer Johnny Gill.

I think Eddie Murphy is the vilest sleaze bag on Earth! His homophobia at a time when gays were dying in vast numbers from AIDS and his lack of sympathy. He treated AIDS like a joke in the venomous "Delirious" pile of shit. His "comedy" was garbage. The only movie of his I ever saw at a theater was "Beverly Hills Cop" and, once again, there was the homophobia (where he put on the limp-wrist act in the restaurant and said to tell the gentleman he had herpes simplex #10. Horrid.

I am not a sniffly crybaby, but I have no tolerance for that snarky, unfunny bastard. It's okay for him to swallow a tranny's cock in a back alley in WeHo or get fucked up the pooter by Johnny Gill, but he makes fun of gays for giving people "that new AIDS shit." God, I hate him. A grease fire is to pleasant for his homophobic ass.

by Anonymousreply 24311/22/2013

243, I hate Eddie Murphy too. His '80s standup was pure hate and homophobia. He wore those red and purple leather suits and looked like the Queen of the Castro while he spent 90 minutes complaining about "fags" and "faggots" and prissing to imitate gays. He is a vile and terrible person. I never found him to be funny. I have never seen any of his movies (save 'Delirious' on HBO around '83. It made me sick to my stomach) and never will. He was not even funny on SNL back then. I never understood the appeal. He can't act either. I think he's a very closeted gay man too. A 'Down-Low Bro".

by Anonymousreply 24411/22/2013

Eddie Murphy eats da poo-poo.

Most homophobic movies I have seen:

1. Eddie Murphy Delirious (1983)

2. Eddie Murphy Raw (1987)

3. Slap Shot (1977)

4. Cruising (1980)

5. Boat Trip (with Cuba Gooding Jr.)

by Anonymousreply 24511/22/2013

Suppose there are elements of homophobia: "MASH" (movie version), dentist has performance issues with a visiting nurse, fears he might be a "fairy," wants to commit suicide and is later tricked into being cured of his problem when he is able to have sex with a woman. "Advise and Consent," young family man senator commits suicide after being blackmailed about a past gay relationship.

by Anonymousreply 24611/22/2013


Just Friends

Not a movie, but I think The Hills and The City is really homophobic, but I think all MTV shows are, it's the fact gay men are totally omitted form the shows.

by Anonymousreply 24711/22/2013


by Anonymousreply 25002/24/2014

"The Choirboys" from the late 1970s. Incredibly homophobic. Every negative gay stereotype you could imagine, plus deliberate brutalization of gay characters.

I don't think "Cruising" was homophobic at all. It was a very raw serial killer story, set in the gay leather community. Not a well-made movie by any means, but not homophobic.

by Anonymousreply 25102/24/2014

Any Adam Sandler comedy. He doesn't get satire.

There is a hockey movie, I can't remember the name of it.

by Anonymousreply 25202/24/2014

THE DETECTIVE (68), starring Ronan Farrow's father.

by Anonymousreply 25302/24/2014

What R69 said. TSOTL has an exchange where Lechter claims BB wants to become a woman and is killing women to make a "woman suit", and Starling immediately questions that transgenderism would motivate someone to become a serial killer, emphatically stating that transsexuals are largely docile and non-violent. Lechter counters that BB is not a true transsexual, but that he has deep self-loathing and will stop at nothing to recreate himself.

Or something like that. The point is clearly made: Buffalo Bill is pathological, unlike a true transgendered person.

The cries of homophobia over this masterpiece are really tiresome after all these years. Control your knee-jerk and sit down and watch the movie for once.

by Anonymousreply 25402/24/2014

[quote]Not too long ago, there was a British mini-series called BOB AND ROSE, in which a gay man winds up being attracted to a woman and they fall in love.

This happened to me after being out for well over a decade. Why is it unfit for portrayal in film?

by Anonymousreply 25502/24/2014

OP, you completely lose credibility by saying that Cruising...a movie about a gay serial "accurate". You're the homophobe, darlin'.

by Anonymousreply 25702/24/2014

R249...calling others "idiots"?? Oh the irony!!

by Anonymousreply 25802/24/2014

Anyone mentioning Wizard of Oz in this thread needs serious glasses. The whole film is gay. It is life-affirming. It is one of the gay-est films I have ever seen. If this film isn't pro-gay, I don't know what is.

by Anonymousreply 25902/24/2014

Irreversible. What a crap shit of a movie.

by Anonymousreply 26002/24/2014

R255...oh yes, the audience zoomed right in on that scene that 'explained' that transgender people are 'docile'.

Meanwhile, the rest of the movie is about a psycho-cross dressing fag with a poodle. But NO one noticed that.

by Anonymousreply 26102/24/2014

Although the movie CLUE is a fun little "bad" movie, and Madeleine Kahn is a hoot in it as Mrs. White, one thing annoys me about it a lot.

The twist/gimmick of the movie is that, like the board game, the solution could be anything, so the movie was filmed with three different possible endings and different theaters got different endings.

In two versions, Mr. Green is gay and is basically a stupid, pathetic buffoon all through the movie. In the third ending, however, Mr. Green turns out to be the hero who saves the day - but, then they have to reveal that he was only PRETENDING to be gay and was really heterosexual all along!

Ughh... so a character can be gay and a helpless, screaming, cowardly idiot... or he can be strong, smart, brave..... and oh yeah, his homosexuality was just a ruse.... because those traits can't possibly all go together.

by Anonymousreply 26202/24/2014

Partners (1982) is really offensive.

by Anonymousreply 26302/24/2014

Gold: Braveheart Silver: Irreversible Bronze: Waiting

by Anonymousreply 26402/24/2014

One for you, girls:

Twice a Woman with Anthony Perkins (playing an uber straight male - hilarious).

Bergman's Bibi Andersson plays Perkins' ex wife, a museum curator who falls in love with a young woman.

The film has to be seen to be believed. Euro film 1980s

Have a listen to Perkins .. and a bit of ridiculous dialogue.

by Anonymousreply 26502/24/2014

I heard about the movie "Windows," starring Talia Share and Elizabeth Ashley is one of the most homophobic films of all time. The director later apologized for making it.

by Anonymousreply 26602/24/2014

Windows isn't as homophobic as it is dull. It's sleazy as hell, but without any gore or nudity. It's like a lesbian Fatal Attraction, but without the motivation. The Ashley character is just insane and never had a relationship with the Shire character.

It's just boring, but Ashley really gives a great, creepy performance.

It's kinda sad how we can't have gay/lesbian villains without the p.c. police freaking out.

by Anonymousreply 26702/25/2014

[quote]It's kinda sad how we can't have gay/lesbian villains without the p.c. police freaking out.

I think the point that is trying to be made is that until very recently nearly all gay characters in film were deranged in one form or another.

by Anonymousreply 26802/25/2014

Peter Pan

by Anonymousreply 26903/05/2014

What about A Different Story with Perry King and Meg Foster? It's a legitimately charming and well made/acted film about a gay man and a lesbian falling in love, having sex, and raising a baby together.

Keep in mind, that it's not a story about 2 bi-sexuals, they're both shown as exclusively gay and lesbian until they have too much to drink.

It's weird, but I kinda like the movie anyway.

by Anonymousreply 27003/05/2014

Well, you're self loathing. It's not charming, it's creepy and hateful.

That's the problem with DL. Too many closeted creeps who defend movies like "A Different Story" and "Windows".

by Anonymousreply 27103/06/2014

Windows is a boring piece of shit, but A Different Story is a sweet, entertaining movie even if it is a fairy tale.

by Anonymousreply 27203/06/2014

I've read all the posts and I don't recall anyone mentioning "The Fox". It had many good production qualities but was the standard "gay character must die at the end" story.

by Anonymousreply 27303/06/2014

I watched an art movie at a film fest that offered the shallowest, dullest, and most depressing vision of what a gay man's life is like. It was called "Dawson's 50-Load Weekend."

by Anonymousreply 27403/06/2014

There's a thread kicking around somewhere about "The Music Lovers", Ken Russell's 1970 film about Tchaikovsky.

The film shows Tchaikovsky desperately trying to connect with women, and being horrified every time his homosexuality kicks in. As I said, it's like watching a straight men show what gay men are like, if the straight man had failed to ask any gay men about their experience and just made everything up.

by Anonymousreply 27503/06/2014

I would put Sorority Boys(2002) up as being not only juvenile and misogynistic but also very homophobic. The trailer featuring Harland Williams seemed like it was going to be funny, but it ended up being a F movie and downright offensive to boot. The premise was 3 frat boys dressed up in drag trying to pass as girls with hilarity ensuing. I should have known it was going to be bad when I was the only person in the theater. I ended up walking out of it, when the frat boys started fencing with double headed dildos. I never saw how the film ended, but it remains one of only 2 films that I ever walked out of.

by Anonymousreply 27603/06/2014

I saw Braveheart in the theater and no one started "clapping and cheering and saying 'Death to faggots'" when the one character was tossed out the window. That sounds like bullshit to me.

by Anonymousreply 27703/06/2014

R201 Of course Silence of the Lambs is homophobic. Why did they feel the need to turn a character that was based on Ed Gein, a mentally ill but straight guy, into a raging gay transvestite whateverthingy?

by Anonymousreply 27803/06/2014

any tom cruise film

by Anonymousreply 27903/06/2014

In Ralph Bakshi's [italic]Fritz the Cat[/italic], a female character says, "You're a fucking bunch of Nazi fags." R. Crumb hated the movie version so much, he killed off the character in his own comics.

by Anonymousreply 28011/09/2014

[quote]I agree in regards to "The Lion King". I normally love me some Disney, but I've only watched that movie once (I have it on VHS). The gay villain was just completely unnecessary in a children's film - that's just wrong and damaging to susceptible minds.

In [italic]Lion King II[/italic], he had a pride of his own and some lionesses to provide him with cubs. That came out of nowhere.

And this dialogue exchange:

[quote]Simba: You're weird.

[quote]Scar: Oh, you have no idea.

is a reference to a virtually identical exchange Jeremy Irons, the voice of Scar, had with Ron Silver in [italic]Reversal of Fortune[/italic].

Did either Nathan Lane or Elton John ever voice any concern about whether they thought Scar was gay? In light of some of Jeremy Irons' recent comments, I don't honestly know.

by Anonymousreply 28111/09/2014

Mrs Doubtfire. My he only gays in the movie (which took place in San Francisco) were a couple of flaming makeup artists.

by Anonymousreply 28211/09/2014

To all the ignorant people saying Mel Gibson invented a gay character in Braveheart. The gay prince is Edward II, who historically is said to be gay. Marlowe wrote a gay romance called Edward II in the late 1500's which is what Gibson based the character and the boyfriend on. Edward II was said to have died when his wife jammed a redhot poker up his but and took the throne as Queen without any dispute because Edward II was a weak king more obsessed with chasing boys than ruling the country.

by Anonymousreply 28304/08/2015

How can someone claim Ed Gein does not fall under the LGBT banner? He had sex with teenage and young adult males and not just with the ones he murdered. He also was known to secretly dress as woman. You can't just pick the LGBTs you like and say they were born that way and then claim the ones you don't like were just straight people with a mental illness that made them want to have same sex and cross-dress.

by Anonymousreply 28404/08/2015

r262, thank you, Clue was shamelessly homophobic, but of course DL airheads consider it a camp classic anyway.

by Anonymousreply 28504/08/2015

I like the idea of middle class suburban couples going to a dinner club to watch "Boys in the Sand."

by Anonymousreply 28604/08/2015

Interesting reading some of the previous posts. Disney has many villains that seem gay or at least asexual. (None of them have a partner, they only have evil sidekicks!)

The Lion King -- Scar is a sulking gay lion.

Aladdin -- Jafar is a gay vizier with a bird fetish.

Beauty and the Beast -- Gaston (Okay, so he's bi)

The Little Mermaid -- Ursula, tentacled dyke.

Cinderella -- Lady Tremaine seems like a jealous, closeted lesbian.

Peter Pan -- Captain Hook is angry at Peter Pan's carefree fairy lifestyle.

Jungle Book -- Shere Kahn is an erudite gay tiger.

101 Dalmatians -- Cruella DeVil is a sexually frustrated but fashionable lipstick lez who takes out her aggression on puppies.

Pocahontas -- Governor Ratcliffe is the gay villain; his manservant is the gay clown. (Both voiced by David Ogden Stiers)

by Anonymousreply 28704/08/2015


by Anonymousreply 28804/08/2015

[quote]Another Gay Movie. It wouldn't be so bad except for the one character.

Yes, that one is horrible.

by Anonymousreply 28904/08/2015

What's homophobic about "Another Gay Movie"?

by Anonymousreply 29004/08/2015

Slap Shot (1977). My high school boyfriend and I walked out on it. I can't believe a good liberal like Paul Newman would make such trash.

by Anonymousreply 29104/08/2015

the wolf of wall street

by Anonymousreply 29204/08/2015

In defense of "Slap Shot":

Yes, there was a lot of homophobic language in the film, delivered by a bunch of hockey-playing morons who were less evolved and less sophisticated than a troop of wild baboons. The homophobic comments they made weren't supposed to be correct, they were supposed to show how dumb, low-class, and provincial the hockey players were. The few characters who had average IQs and a little education did not talk that way.

That said, I do understand how listening to those idiots could destroy a person's enjoyment of the film.

by Anonymousreply 29304/08/2015

Haven't read the whole thread so maybe this movie has already been called out: Midnight Express. Even though it's based on a true story they left out the facts that Billy Hayes was never raped and that he had a consensual gay relationship while imprisoned in Turkey. Thank Alan Parker and Oliver Stone (screenwriter here) along with the homophobic Hollywood machine for leaving out those silly things that affirm homosexuality in a positive light.

by Anonymousreply 29404/08/2015

None of these hold a candle to the Eating Out or Not Another Gay Movie series, made even worse in that the creatives behind them were gay men. Unbearably offensive and stereotypical. I'd rather sit through three days of Eddie Murphy at his worst.

by Anonymousreply 29504/08/2015

[quote]What's homophobic about "Another Gay Movie"?

You've got to be fucking kidding me. Jerry Fallwell and Pat Robertson could have created the Jonah Blechman character.

by Anonymousreply 29604/08/2015

Braveheart is homophobic. Edward II may have been gay, but there is no evidence he was a limp-wristed, prancing queen. And despite what Gibson says about the scene where his lover is pushed out a window, it was not about how bad King Edward is...or at least that's not what the laughing and even cheering audiences got out of it.

Fuck you and fuck Mel Gibson with a red-hot poker.

by Anonymousreply 29704/08/2015

I've always been baffled by the outcry against "Cruising." It was a pretty accurate description of one side of NYC in the 70s.

by Anonymousreply 29804/08/2015

[quote]Edward II was said to have died when his wife jammed a redhot poker up his but

First of all, there has never been any sort of story [italic]whatsoever[/italic] that Queen Isabella sneaked into Berkeley Prison and [italic]herself[/italic] sodomized Edward II with a red-hot poker. That's just ridiculous.

There is a story, which is highly unreliable and which most medieval historians credit to propaganda, that Edward II was killed by henchmen in the prison with a red-hot poker shoved up his anus. But since his son Edward III had much to gain by spreading such a story (he overthrew his mother and her lover Mortimer, who had arranged to have Edward II imprisoned and whom Edward III hated), it probably never happened.

All we know for sure is that after he was imprisoned in Berkeley castle Edward II was announced to have died. He was likely murdered by his enemies, but it's fairly unlikely they killed him in that way.

by Anonymousreply 29904/08/2015

The Detective and Advise and Consent are not homophobic. They were early efforts to promote understanding and point out the tragic consequences of anti-gay bigotry. Otto Preminger, who directed Advise and Consent, and Frank Sinatra, who starred in The Detective, deserve credit for their willingness to tackle the plight of gay people in pre-Stonewall America.

by Anonymousreply 30004/09/2015

The Wedding Party

by Anonymousreply 30104/09/2015

You know how bitchy fags can be.

by Anonymousreply 30204/09/2015

party monster with the mcallister boy and seth green. Not everyone in NYC is gay and popping pills!

by Anonymousreply 30304/09/2015

Straight porn?

by Anonymousreply 30404/09/2015

Braveheart is pretty gross. Mel Gibson really shows his heart of darkness with that scene. And everyone loved the scene and straight men still worship this movie. An example of the insidious, casual homophobia that pervades our culture still.

by Anonymousreply 30504/09/2015

Glad to see folks hate on SATC II. Woefully offensive. But even the series took a rather patronizing attitude toward gays. Look at Carrie and Stanford's relationship. It was like he always showed up to remind her in some way how lucky she was to be a straight woman.

by Anonymousreply 30604/09/2015

Has anyone mentioned BRAVEHEART? It was a Mel Gibson movie.

by Anonymousreply 30706/26/2015

There was a Paul Newman movie about hockey players but I can't remember the title. Has anyone seen it?

by Anonymousreply 30806/26/2015

R308, "Slap Shot"

by Anonymousreply 30906/26/2015

PARTNERS with Ryan O'Neal and John Hurt.

by Anonymousreply 31006/27/2015

R308 no it isnt - rather it's a spot on satire of that culture. And Paul Newman's great in it.

by Anonymousreply 31106/27/2015

As another poster stated, The Detective was not homophobic. It was, for the time, an ANTI-homophobic (since this was pre-Stonewall and there was no such thing as "pro gay") movie actually. Sinatra's character was sympathetic to the plight of how homosexuals were being treated. His "seen it all, tired" police detective character had redeeming qualities. And the depiction of those "meat truck on the docks" or whatever they were called where gay men convened under cover of darkness to grope around in the backs of panel trucks was accurate. That is, from many descriptions of men who were there, a popular thing for gay men in 1968. The way gay men had to live back then was pretty rough and the film simply depicted some of that. Not every gay person got murdered, of course, but it was wholly believable as to how the plot of the film developed. I think Sinatra was fairly gay friendly as long as the men were traditionally masculine and flew it under the radar. He detested effeminacy, although he, himself was not uber masculine. He was VERY close to Monty Clift during the filming of From Here to Eternity. I wonder what relationship they really had? He was a product of his era. It is known that he called Johnny Mathis the African Queen, though. Which is, if you think about it, kinda funny and clever.

by Anonymousreply 31206/27/2015

Sorry if this was mentioned.... I'm not sure Tennessee Williams did us any favors accessing his bottomless pit of self-loathing for the Grand Guignol of homophobia, "Suddenly, Last Summer" (1959), which only made it to the screen if the censors could fashion it as a cautionary tale for those considering the gay "lifestyle." From Wikipedia...

[quote]Working in conjunction with the National Legion of Decency, the Production Code Administration gave the filmmakers special dispensation to depict Sebastian Venable, declaring, "Since the film illustrates the horrors of such a lifestyle, it can be considered moral in theme even though it deals with sexual perversion."

Gore Vidal talks about how he had to slice up the screenplay...

by Anonymousreply 31306/27/2015

"Laura". Every odious stereotype of (1940s) gay men rolled into one Waldo Lydecker (Clifton Webb) who tries to murder his fag-hag/beard Laura (Gene Tierney).

by Anonymousreply 31406/27/2015

R314, interesting observations, but I still love the movie Laura.

by Anonymousreply 31506/27/2015

I don't think SLS is homophobic. It's written by a gay man and stars a gay man (and possibly a gay woman: Hepburn).

Sebastian isn't a killer or rapist, just a hugely closeted mama's boy ("He lived a chaste life!"- Aunt Vi). Everyone liked him.

If anything it's an indictment of the closet. If he hadn't had to slip around with prostitutes he might have lived a decent (though discreet!) life.

by Anonymousreply 31606/27/2015

Skip to 45:42

by Anonymousreply 31706/27/2015

I'm glad someone else mentioned "Legally Blonde." That's always bugged me, and it wasn't made so long ago either.

by Anonymousreply 31806/28/2015

It wasn't the most homophobic movie of all time, but I recently watched Legally Blonde and was surprised by homophobic the jokes were (despite being directed by a gay man).

by Anonymousreply 31906/28/2015

Sex and the City 2 was pretty homophobic in a way. Those raging stereotypes played for 'laughs' really set us back. I wonder how the fraus would feel if they were portrayed as ugly cliches....oh...wait, that's what Sex and the City was all about lol

by Anonymousreply 32006/28/2015

I really hope they don't do another SATC movie. No doubt Anthony and Stanford would be divorced, and Carrie would be trying her best to look sympathetic, yet still be blubbering about how 'hard' her life is now she's married to a very rich man, who can't be bothered to buy her they expensive gifts she feels she deserves YUK!

by Anonymousreply 32106/28/2015

The most lesbophobic movies are the ones where the "lesbian" is seduced by a guy. For example "The Humbling" with Al Pacino and "Chasing Amy" with Ben Affleck. Never could bring myself to watch either of them.

by Anonymousreply 32206/28/2015

[quote]Aladdin -- Jafar is a gay vizier with a bird fetish.

Um, no. Jafar tries to fuck Jasmine.

by Anonymousreply 32306/28/2015

Be glad you skipped "Chasing Amy", R322.

FYI the lesbian character tries to educate the straight guy about women's and same-sex issues for the first half of the film. And in the second half she does some things that are unbelievable, and show that the writer doesn't understand a damn thing about women or lesbians even though he thinks he does.

by Anonymousreply 32406/29/2015

Oh god, I forgot "Chasing Amy"! So fucking stupid and downright insulting.

by Anonymousreply 32506/29/2015

I had the misfortune to see "Chasing Amy," too. Where does one even begin?

by Anonymousreply 32606/30/2015

I suspect everybody in the industry who called [italic]Silence of the Lambs[/italic] homophobic was rooting for [italic]Beauty and the Beast[/italic] to win Best Picture.

by Anonymousreply 32708/10/2015

I didn't read all the answers, did anybody mention 300? Which is homophobic and homoerotic at the same time. 2 for the price on 1 yaaaay

by Anonymousreply 32808/10/2015

Irreversible which features a group of rapey gay men in a sex club jacking off as one of their own gets his head crushed with a fire extinguisher.

by Anonymousreply 32908/11/2015
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