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Moving To A New City Where I Don't Know A Soul

Sick of LA and want to head back east. Have my sights on Atlanta or Nashville. Visited both a few times and seems like either could be a good fit. My family's in North Carolina so I wouldn't be too far. Only thing is I don't know anyone and fear I'll be lonely even though I'm okay with being alone most of the time. Anyone ever move somewhere that you didn't know anyone? How did you go about meeting people? Anyone live in Atlanta or Nashville and want to tell me what a mistake I'm making?

--Saying goodbye to Hollywood
replies 116Dec 2, 2017 2:04 PM +00:00

Nashville over ATL.

One of them might land Amazon, so get on it.

--Anonymous
replies 1Dec 2, 2017 2:09 PM +00:00

Charlotte over Nashville or Atlanta

--Anonymous
replies 2Dec 2, 2017 2:15 PM +00:00

nurse, r2 is off her meds!

--Charlotte, pffft.
replies 3Dec 2, 2017 2:19 PM +00:00

I would pick Nashville, too. Someone told me it was nice. He was funny and nice.

It is hard to meet new people, but harder if you are older.

--Anonymous
replies 4Dec 2, 2017 2:28 PM +00:00

Whats wrong with Atlanta ?

--Anonymous
replies 5Dec 2, 2017 2:31 PM +00:00

You can meet people at the bookstore or grocery store.

--Anonymous
replies 6Dec 2, 2017 2:38 PM +00:00

OP, I’d like to do the same, but going from East to West. How are things for gays in Seattle?? Or Denver?

--Anonymous
replies 7Dec 2, 2017 2:39 PM +00:00

I live in Atlanta and I love it. Bonus: a gay strip club.

--Anonymous
replies 8Dec 2, 2017 2:41 PM +00:00

You're moving to Seoul ? But why?

--Emily Litella
replies 9Dec 2, 2017 2:43 PM +00:00

R7. Was the greatest time of my life. As an East Coast boy, going to grad school in Northern Cal was amazing.

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--Anonymous
replies 10Dec 2, 2017 2:44 PM +00:00

Why would anyone want to live in the south?

--Anonymous
replies 11Dec 2, 2017 2:45 PM +00:00

The Seattle Freeze.

--Anonymous
replies 12Dec 2, 2017 2:48 PM +00:00

Leaving LA? Take the rest of them with you.

--Anonymous
replies 13Dec 2, 2017 2:49 PM +00:00

I agree with R11, why would you subject yourself to the South? Are you a masochist? Move to the gay tolerant northeast cities such as Philadelphia, Boston or New York or their respective metropolitan areas. Philadelphia is considered by National Geographic Magazine as the “Next Great City”. I’m partial, of course, because I live in Philly.

--Anonymous
replies 14Dec 2, 2017 3:07 PM +00:00

Atlanta is gay-friendly also. There are several places in the South that are.

--Anonymous
replies 15Dec 2, 2017 3:12 PM +00:00

Take the midnight train to Georgia.

--Gladys K.
replies 16Dec 2, 2017 3:16 PM +00:00

R15, it’s not the so called southern gay friendly cities that are worrisome, it’s the rural counties that surround them!

--Anonymous
replies 17Dec 2, 2017 3:21 PM +00:00

R11, cost of living is a factor and being closer to my family. They live in rural North Carolina which I can't deal with. A co-worker of mine is originally from Atlanta and said to pick that over Nashville but worries I'll be bored since it's a much smaller city than LA and no as much to do. Though he hasn't been back there in many years.

--OP
replies 18Dec 2, 2017 3:43 PM +00:00

I’ve lived in both Los Angeles and Atlanta. There’s plenty to do in both places.

--Anonymous
replies 19Dec 2, 2017 3:45 PM +00:00

How will you make it on your own? This world is awfully big.

--Mary Richards
replies 20Dec 2, 2017 3:56 PM +00:00

OP, stay away from the fucking South!

Well on second thought maybe you should stay close to family while we fall into recession, but will there be jobs for you when the shit hits the fan? Some of those Southern states are on the brink of collapse as it is! They will fall apart when the economy slows again.

--Anonymous
replies 21Dec 2, 2017 4:33 PM +00:00

Savannah, Georgia, where Ruby lives looks pretty

--Anonymous
replies 22Dec 2, 2017 4:35 PM +00:00

OP, how old are you?

If you’re young - go for it, anywhere!

If you’re older - you better be sure you are self sufficient. AAA for on the road, great health insurance, and a healthy stash of investments/savings/assets.

--Anonymous
replies 23Dec 2, 2017 4:39 PM +00:00

I'm 42 so not young. R21, you think we are headed for another recession?

--OP
replies 24Dec 2, 2017 5:15 PM +00:00

What do you do for work OP? Are you likely to meet people/make friends that way? Join a professional organization to both network and make friends?

Are you one of those Professional Gays who can only do Gay™ things and listen to Gay™ music and hang out at Gay™ bars or are you pretty adaptable?

If the latter, is there some activity you enjoy-- sports, music, birdwatching--that you can join a Meetup for?

Good luck!

--Anonymous
replies 25Dec 2, 2017 5:20 PM +00:00

Life long Atlantan here. I live in John Lewis' congressional district. You might find you like it here if you have enough money to live in the nice intown neighborhoods. Decatur and it's environs have great neighborhoods.

--Druid Hills by birth.
replies 26Dec 2, 2017 5:32 PM +00:00

What's so great about Nashville, especially if you're gay? I don’t hear about it as a dream destination, unless you're planning to become a country singer.

--Anonymous
replies 27Dec 2, 2017 5:33 PM +00:00

The guy who told me that Nashville is nice is gay

--Anonymous
replies 28Dec 2, 2017 5:35 PM +00:00

Well OP if you want to live in a state that is on the forefront of restricting LGBT rights move to Nashville.

--Anonymous
replies 29Dec 2, 2017 6:23 PM +00:00

That person who recommended Nashville probably doesn't like you, OP. I cringe just thinking about that annoying southern drawl. Sorry/Not Sorry.

--Anonymous
replies 30Dec 2, 2017 6:42 PM +00:00

R30

I’m assuming you’re a Yankee.

Your version of English lacks a second person plural.

Southern English has y’all. So fuck off.

--Standardized language is just a dialect with an army and a navy.
replies 31Dec 2, 2017 7:24 PM +00:00

Of course Atlanta over Nashville. NASHVILLE? What are you, drunk? If anywhere in the south, Atlanta, otherwise fuck it, and while we're at it, cut the I'm-dependent-on-my-family-fin - ancially strings. That's very self-fucking.

--Anonymous
replies 32Dec 2, 2017 7:32 PM +00:00

Nashville has opera

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--Anonymous
replies 33Dec 2, 2017 7:35 PM +00:00

Jesus, so does fucking Atlanta have opera. And better.

--Anonymous
replies 34Dec 2, 2017 7:37 PM +00:00

Atlanta=big city. In the top 5 (I think). Nashville=Grand Ol' Fuckin' Opry.

Really? This is a puzzle? Because I assume you're gay.

--Anonymous
replies 35Dec 2, 2017 7:43 PM +00:00

Moving out of LA to go anywhere east other than NYC is ridiculous.

--Anonymous
replies 36Dec 2, 2017 7:45 PM +00:00

Why are you leaving los Angeles Op? I'm curious.

--Anonymous
replies 37Dec 2, 2017 7:47 PM +00:00

"Philadelphia is considered by National Geographic Magazine as the 'Next Great City.'"

r14, are you telling me National Geographic went to Philly?

--Anonymous
replies 38Dec 2, 2017 7:47 PM +00:00

Thanks, R10!

--Anonymous
replies 39Dec 2, 2017 7:59 PM +00:00

What about the Triangle in NC? Too conservative?

--Anonymous
replies 40Dec 2, 2017 8:00 PM +00:00

Asheville is a great city. Beautiful and has great arts, music and food.

--Anonymous
replies 41Dec 2, 2017 8:09 PM +00:00

Lived in Nashville for 17 years. What are you exactly tired of in LA?

--Anonymous
replies 42Dec 2, 2017 8:12 PM +00:00

Asheville is also expensive from what I hear, R41. OP mentioned financial considerations.

--Anonymous
replies 43Dec 2, 2017 8:15 PM +00:00

Nashville is ok. You better be careful in the outer counties as they are the mouth breathers that don't sanitize their CPAPS. Rough and mostly homophobes. Try to live close to Belmont and Vanderbilt. East Nashville is overrated and full of douchey hipsters that can't really afford being there. The food is fattening and delicious. The shopping is not great. Green Hills mall is the best shopping and would be equal to a Burbank mall.

--Anonymous
replies 44Dec 2, 2017 8:29 PM +00:00

I've been to Nashville and it's suburbs a number of times visiting relatives and it was okay. Less hill-billy/ southern then I thought it would be. Lots of good food and live music. Airport is easy to get in and out of and rarely crowded. That being said I would never move there, I didn't like the way it "felt" and I didn't care for the geography, it's too flat and uninteresting. Never been to Atlanta. I've been in Los Angeles now 13 years and I am ready to move as well but my partner is not. I can't deal with all the people anymore, its just too much. I feel like I am packed into a sardine can the way everyone lives right on top of each other here. It's like soylent green. I dream of moving to a small town in Vermont, having a house on a 20+ acre farm and lots of pets. Oh the peace, the quiet, the solitude.

--Ready to leave LA too.
replies 45Dec 2, 2017 8:41 PM +00:00

Nashville "cool areas" are affected like the new eatlaly that just opened at century city mall.

--Anonymous
replies 46Dec 2, 2017 9:07 PM +00:00

The only thing you need to do in Atlanta is eat at Pitty Pat's Porch. Do not move here from LA. You'd hate it.

--Anonymous
replies 47Dec 2, 2017 9:21 PM +00:00

Who gives a shit about live music? It ALL sucks.

--Anonymous
replies 48Dec 2, 2017 9:28 PM +00:00

OP, are you going to take the midnight train to Georgia?

--Anonymous
replies 49Dec 2, 2017 9:32 PM +00:00

"Nashville and it's suburbs"

Southerners are all apostrophe abusers; illiterate lowlifes.

Who the fuck moves to a city "because they have opera and museums"! Are you going to live in the Etruscan Wing or the mezzanine?

--Anonymous
replies 50Dec 2, 2017 10:38 PM +00:00

Atlanta is very superficial and youth oriented. 8 think of it as 6s and 7s who think they're 10s looking for a 12. I would describe people there as incurious. The non-natives gay folks tend to be from small towns within a few hours or are the kind of gays from elsewhere who would have been too intimidated to move to LA, NYC, SF, etc. Ive been to LA many times and like it to visit but find it too superficial to want to live there and the traffic is about on par with LA although the greater area is smaller. Housing in Atlanta has taken off in cost over the last year and I wonder what the market can support. My old house sold for 40% more than comparable place sold a year ago and I'm told this is typical. Atlanta simply doesn't have he kind of wealth you find in LA--lots of credit card debt. There were tons of foreclosure a when e real estate market cratered in 2008. Atlanta also has very underdeveloped cultural institutions and is t much of city for a place its size. the metro area is similar in population to DC, Boston and SF, and yet you can sometimes feel that you're in a third tier city in the middle of nowhere.

I've lived in Nasville but longer ago. People are friendlier than Atlanta and the atmosphere is more Southern. There is a gay scene, but it really doesn't have a lot to do and the nearby cities (Louisvile,, Memphis, Knoxville) aren't very interesting. If you want some place that is a bit familiar, but isn't fast. Paced or superficial, then you might like Nashville, although it also tends to be family oriented overall and has a lot of funnies because of the church-related schools and the Southern Baptist convention. The music scene is mostly the muSic business--lots of session work but not a huge number or range of entertainment venues.

--Anonymous
replies 51Dec 3, 2017 12:53 AM +00:00

I love reading these threads where all the "don't know shit from shinola" bigoted fools have to put in their ignorant 2 cents. OP, Nashville and Atlanta are friendly cities full of friendly people. Greater Atlanta is 3 times the size of greater Nashville so there are a lot more and varied types of people there. If you show yourself to be a friendly person then friendly people will gravitate toward you. Southerners are no different than anyone else. If they feel you are not a friendly person they won't give you the time of day.

Wherever you move you're going to have the responsibility of making a good life for yourself. No one else is going to do it for you. I can guarantee you if you move to either city you'll have a brand new set of friends in short order, if that's what you want.

--Anonymous
replies 52Dec 3, 2017 1:44 AM +00:00

The only thing you can't do in Atlanta that you can do in L.A. is swim in the ocean within an hour or so from your house. I know lots of people who've moved to Atlanta from many other cities (including L.A.) and they all say the same thing, "I'll never go back there to live again".

--Anonymous
replies 53Dec 3, 2017 1:47 AM +00:00

For a city of its size, I was surprised at how non-urban Atlanta felt.

Trendy restaurants were in shopping centers next to Supercuts and Dunkin Donuts

There wasn't much of a walkable downtown area

Everything seemed to take forever to get to.

That might have changed in the last 7 years but I doubt it.

--Anonymous
replies 54Dec 3, 2017 1:56 AM +00:00

Hasn't been the same since Sherman

--Aunt Pitty Pat
replies 55Dec 3, 2017 2:01 AM +00:00

I’m sorry, but both cities are disgusting. A hick in a beamer is still a hick.

--Anonymous
replies 56Dec 3, 2017 2:48 AM +00:00

I survived Atlanta. Was there for 20 years in the Grant Park/Decatur areas of the city.

If you decide to move there prepare yourself for: Soul crushing traffic The nastiest most insane/sociopathic/slutty gay men you will ever meet. Truly crazy. Unbelievably corrupt city government Ghetto trash mentality everywhere you go It’s dirty and littery and sweaty Depressing gay nightlife that dwindles more and more each year There is also a disproportionately high STD rate

Honestly, I moved away three years ago and have never looked back with fondness, I’m thrilled I got away. I know six folks who also had enough and moved.

You’ve been warned!

--Anonymous
replies 57Dec 3, 2017 3:59 AM +00:00

Where did you move r57 ?

--Anonymous
replies 58Dec 3, 2017 4:29 AM +00:00

Atlanta has some of the wealthiest suburbs in the US

--Anonymous
replies 59Dec 3, 2017 6:30 AM +00:00

Atlanta has some of the wealthiest hicks in the US

Fixed it, r59.

--Anonymous
replies 60Dec 3, 2017 7:05 AM +00:00

I'm sick of the entertainment biz, plus I've been here almost 20 years and feel like I need a change. That's why I want to move.

--OP
replies 61Dec 3, 2017 7:31 AM +00:00

Well, you don't need to go to Nashville to escape the entertainment biz.

--Anonymous
replies 62Dec 3, 2017 7:34 AM +00:00

Good because the entertainment biz here in Atlanta is not nearly as exciting as the hype leads you to believe, R61. It's okay, fairly easy living save for traffic. Live inside the perimeter and life gets easier. Avoid the 'burbs! Unless you want to spend hours a day in traffic.

--Anonymous
replies 63Dec 3, 2017 7:36 AM +00:00

R52d You must be a realtor or perhaps simply one of these upbeat, boosterish types that Atlanta, in particular, attracts. Nashville could be said to be friendly, but Atlanta? Cut across race, sexuality, etc.. And people will always comment how unfriendly it is. It the worst of both worlds--norhern hospitality and southern lasitude ; northerners say it has no culture, southerners say it has no soul--both are correct. Having once lived in Chicago, I referred to it as the city that doesn't work and I wasn't referring I got to the city government, but to the general grifterishness of the whole area. It's a land of salesman looking for suckers or at least bigger suckers than they are. Since leaving Atlanta, I've noticed how. Many of my friends and acquaintances there want to leave, too. When I moved there, the local usually boosterish paper published a survey saying that 40 pct of the people in metro Atlanta would leave tomorrow given the chance. You really shouldn't bother, OP.

--Anonymous
replies 64Dec 3, 2017 10:36 AM +00:00

Yeah, I hate to admit it since I grew up here but Atlanta lost its Southern charm a long time. So many cunts here, male and female, who just stare back at you if you say hello in passing, even to neighbors. If you are that type, come on in, you'll fit. For those of us friendly Southern ones, it sucks. Sick of social retards.

--ready to go back to L.A. since little difference but more movies
replies 65Dec 3, 2017 11:53 AM +00:00

Nashville was weird and funky when I lived there in the 70s and 80s. Great gay bars. Then it added rich GOP golf course suburbs and I thought it had been ruined. I moved to northeast a long time ago and like it much better.

But now Nashville also has large hipster areas as a counterweight to all the Republicans in Franklin. It's okay, and it's affordable, especially if you have some California real estate to sell. You'll be trading up.

You do have to decide, however, if you want to be in a blue island in a very red state. All kinds of regressive anti-gay and anti-woman and anti-minority politics in Tennessee state politics now. Didn't used to be so red.

--Anonymous
replies 66Dec 3, 2017 12:06 PM +00:00

r66 here. Forgot to add that I used to know a bunch of people in Atlanta. They all moved to Asheville. So did some of the people I knew in Nashville.

--Anonymous
replies 67Dec 3, 2017 12:07 PM +00:00

Southern Metropolis cities have a weird, what I call, "NEW YORK CITY COMPLEX." They act like jerks because they equate being a jerk with intelligence. Men are very immature there. IT is very click-y. People talk about what high school they went too. They cannot move on. IT IS WEIRD. There is no neighborhood vibe there.

I heard the best Southern City to live is Austin, Texas. There is still the neighborhood vibe (sure, it is expensive to live there), art & music scene obviously, and a major University that leans BLUE/Liberal arts/sciences. Of course, you are surrounded by extreme people who live in Texas.

--Anonymous
replies 68Dec 3, 2017 12:08 PM +00:00

And you need to enjoy weeks and weeks of 115 degree temperatures there too. Though I do still miss it otherwise.

--Anonymous
replies 69Dec 3, 2017 12:12 PM +00:00

Walk the streets naked, that should get you some new friends!

--Anonymous
replies 70Dec 3, 2017 12:36 PM +00:00

R65's "Yeah, I hate to admit it since I grew up here but Atlanta lost its Southern charm a long time. So many cunts here, male and female, who just stare back at you if you say hello in passing, even to neighbors. If you are that type, come on in, you'll fit. For those of us friendly Southern ones, it sucks. Sick of social retards."

Well you can move to New York and get the same blank stare back at you but it'll be from an Asian, Russian, or Latino who simply doesn't know how to communicate in the english language. Most of them don't give you the personal space that we're no longer able to enjoy, because they're all coming in in fucking droves. So there's good and bad everyplace.

--Anonymous
replies 71Dec 3, 2017 2:07 PM +00:00

Agreed. It just used to feel different here -- when a lot more native born Southerners were here. Black and white alike were far friendlier. It's not personal -- I watch the same fools ignoring others, not just me -- but it's still disconcerting for those of us who like polite society.

Now everyone just looks cautious and ridiculously so. I refuse to cave in to that.

--Anonymous
replies 72Dec 3, 2017 2:11 PM +00:00

Wow, I'm surprised to hear Atlanta isn't very friendly. And it's segregated?

--Anonymous
replies 73Dec 3, 2017 2:39 PM +00:00

Atlanta is very friendly.....but remember....birds of a feather....if youre vapid and shallow, thats what you attract.

--Anonymous
replies 74Dec 3, 2017 2:44 PM +00:00

R73

Extremely. The division between the urban black population and the rest is not quite as pronounced as it is in several northern cities, but it is definitely the San Francisco of the South.

Urban crime has been driven into small neighborhoods because of rising rents, but they are places you don’t ever want to go, day or night.

Nashville is more integrated.

--Anonymous
replies 75Dec 3, 2017 3:26 PM +00:00

San Francisco of the south-NOT! No southern city is.

--Anonymous
replies 76Dec 3, 2017 3:39 PM +00:00

I would never live in any city where this is commonplace and accepted:

i.dailymail.co.uk
--Anonymous
replies 77Dec 3, 2017 3:48 PM +00:00

Wow, is that Atlanta, R77?

--Anonymous
replies 78Dec 3, 2017 4:33 PM +00:00

R75, what areas do you not want to go day or night?

--OP
replies 79Dec 3, 2017 4:48 PM +00:00

Atlanta is the kind of place where you'll see bumper stickers forTrump in the REI parking lot. The moderate reputation, like a lot of things is a veneer.

--Anonymous
replies 80Dec 3, 2017 7:31 PM +00:00

Where are some fun places to go in Atlanta?

--Anonymous
replies 81Dec 4, 2017 3:05 AM +00:00

Wouldn't Washington DC also give you easy access to your parents in N. Carolina, OP?

I think I'd prefer it to Atlanta or Nashville. I'd live somewhere like Georgetown.

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--Anonymous
replies 82Dec 4, 2017 4:28 AM +00:00

Havent you learned OP.....home is where you make it. If youre bored where youre at now, in a few years youll be bored again wherever you end up.

--Anonymous
replies 83Dec 4, 2017 5:31 AM +00:00

OP, adults (and their kids) do this all the time. Sometimes on their own; often through job relocation. It is an experience, but things will almost automatically fall into place when you get there. You'll meeting people at work, the gym, while out walking your dog (if you have one) or in bars, if that's your jam. It's worth the effort if you are unhappy in L.A. Your cost of living will be significantly less, too.

--Anonymous
replies 84Dec 4, 2017 5:46 AM +00:00

Georgetown, r82? OP is moving with financial issues in mind. And you suggest expensive Georgetown?

--Anonymous
replies 85Dec 4, 2017 8:47 AM +00:00
What about the Triangle in NC? Too conservative?

Raleigh/Durham is far more progressive than Nashville.

--Anonymous
replies 86Dec 4, 2017 8:52 AM +00:00
Georgetown, [R82]? OP is moving with financial issues in mind. And you suggest expensive Georgetown?

I'm sorry. I didn't get that part.

Can people move to D.C. on a restricted budget or not so much?

--Anonymous
replies 87Dec 4, 2017 11:22 AM +00:00

DC is very expensive r87. Cheaper than Manhattan/San Francisco, but more expensive than pretty much anywhere else.

--Anonymous
replies 88Dec 4, 2017 11:25 AM +00:00

I didn't care much for Raleigh when I visited there.

--OP
replies 89Dec 4, 2017 5:26 PM +00:00

Yes, you can join clubs, etc. and hopefully meet people at work, but the bigger context of a place is going to be important and by the time you reach your 40s, the time and effort to make friends increases. The reserach triangle area is very closed and a friend of mine left UNC because of the general insularity of living in that area. That will be a problem in a smaller place.

DC Is expensive but much more interesting than ATL or Nashville and filled with people who have some connection to NC. You may be happier in DC than any of these other places.

--Anonymous
replies 90Dec 6, 2017 8:31 AM +00:00

I have moved to new countries where I know no one. Never a mistake.

--Anonymous
replies 91Dec 6, 2017 8:47 AM +00:00

Have you thought of Savannah? Or JAX? No state taxes in FL. Nice beaches.

Nashville's a nice place to visit yada yada yada. ATL's not even a nice place to visit, and while there, I sat in traffic at a standstill at 2AM on a WEEKNIGHT.

I personally would live in NC close to the Research Triangle. Plenty of jobs and a college-educated population.

--Anonymous
replies 92Dec 6, 2017 9:23 AM +00:00

L.A. proved too much for the man. Too much for the man, he couldn't make it.

He's leavin' on that midnight train to Georgia....

--Anonymous
replies 93Dec 6, 2017 9:35 AM +00:00

I moved to a new city where I didn't know a soul and it turned out really well

--Paul Michael Glaser
replies 94Dec 6, 2017 11:42 AM +00:00
L.A. proved too much for the man.

L.A.'s a great big freeway.

Have you considered San José, OP? You can really breath in San José.

--Anonymous
replies 95Dec 6, 2017 11:47 AM +00:00

I think the only city I would even consider living in is Asheville. Progressive/lib, breathtakingly gorgeous, friendly people, good nightlife. Has just about everything one would consider pluses.

--Anonymous
replies 96Dec 6, 2017 12:04 PM +00:00

Aside from just "rural areas" --which would describe quite a bit of the state--where in North Carolina do your parents live?

--Anonymous
replies 97Dec 6, 2017 12:06 PM +00:00

I don’t understand people who are such fans of Asheville. It’s a pretty place to visit but much too small to have what I need on a regular basis.

--Anonymous
replies 98Dec 6, 2017 1:41 PM +00:00

Oh-a, fade away, leaving L.A. Tomorrow's waiting, memory's fading Take me away, don't wanna stay

--Anonymous
replies 99Dec 6, 2017 1:45 PM +00:00

It’s also full of stinky homeless people in the summertime who use the public parks and streets as toilets.

--Anonymous
replies 100Dec 6, 2017 1:50 PM +00:00

No one suggested New Orleans? Granted I'm in NYC and know little about it but I thought it was supposed to be a good place to live (at least, for the right people I suppose). Am I completely wrong?

--Anonymous
replies 101Dec 6, 2017 2:00 PM +00:00

LA Times just had an article on how people are moving to Vegas.

--Anonymous
replies 102Dec 6, 2017 2:50 PM +00:00

R102, alcoholics and hookers.

--N Cage, E. Shue
replies 103Dec 6, 2017 2:55 PM +00:00

I just got back from Cumming, a wealthy suburb of Atlanta on Tues.....meh...the traffic around the city and the rest of rich north Atlanta is awful.....they are also the worst drivers I ever had to drive with and with all the traffic its too stressful for me

...I really liked Macon so much better. They are doing a great revitalization in the city. Rather than knocking down everything old they are fixing it up...the homes on College and Vineville are to die from.

--Anonymous
replies 104Dec 6, 2017 2:59 PM +00:00

I got my PhD at Emory University. It took some get to used to, not gonna lie. But the changes tbat had to be made were all in me. Atlanta/Decatur made me a better person. The South gets a bad rap from people who have never lived there. I have lived in LA, Chicago, tbe intermountain west, Boston, New York and the Pacific Northwest. I am telling you, you will love Atlanta. Gay culture is very strong, though not so much in the nightlife.

Take a chance, OP. I think you will fall in love with the place.

--Anonymous
replies 105Dec 6, 2017 3:03 PM +00:00

I think I will give Atlanta a try. I'll report back in a year.

--OP
replies 106Dec 7, 2017 8:19 AM +00:00

Give my regards to Swingin Richards!

--Anonymous
replies 107Dec 7, 2017 2:06 PM +00:00

What's that, R107?

--Anonymous
replies 108Dec 9, 2017 3:43 PM +00:00

go to meetup.com when you get there. When I moved to a new city, I also searched google/Facebook for "gay social group" and found a lot of cool guys who do volunteer work, etc. I met so many cool people.

--Anonymous
replies 109Dec 9, 2017 3:46 PM +00:00

Swingin Richards is an all male strip bar....and they get totally nude.

--Anonymous
replies 110Dec 9, 2017 3:47 PM +00:00

totally nude and nothing but faded tats and shaved pubes. ugh. Try B.J.'s pool hall and strip club on Cheshire Bridge instead. And you'll save yourself a shitload of money compared to Richard's too. Trust me.

--Anonymous
replies 111Dec 9, 2017 3:49 PM +00:00

It's a pool hall/strip club?

--Anonymous
replies 112Dec 9, 2017 4:05 PM +00:00

There are pool tables and strippers dance after 9 pm. But somehow not as capitalist as Swinging Richards. Not even a cover at the door most nights. I much prefer it, though I liked their old location (next to a great movie theatre) better. One could go see a movie and then walk over there to hang out after.

--Anonymous
replies 113Dec 9, 2017 4:33 PM +00:00

Someone upthread said there isn't that much of a walkable downtown Atlanta. Anyone else agree?

--Anonymous
replies 114Dec 10, 2017 12:27 PM +00:00

SW Is totally about the money honey, not that there’s anything wrong with that. They have an ATM in the private room area and when I went there was an old queen in the bathroom who wanted a tip to hand you a paper towel to dry your hands. If the dancers see you have don’t have any dollars at the ready you will know what it feels like to be invisible. If they sense dollars , you’re treated like you’re the hottest man on Earth. It’s hilarious.

--Anonymous
replies 115Dec 10, 2017 1:30 PM +00:00

And B.J.s really is a nice little neighborhood pool hall with decent folks working there and regulars. Far FAR less about the money, though be careful with the Latino strippers who are famous for doing a private dance for 3 minutes and then deciding you owe them $80. Scumbags as I learned first hand. Stick with the nice fun WASP boys instead.

--Anonymous
replies 116Dec 10, 2017 1:51 PM +00:00