Let's be the movie Julia.

I am a string of beads on a hot dancer.

Meryl Streep salutes Jane Fonda and thanks her for casting her in her first movie "Julia"

I'll be Maximilian's eggs Lillian paid for, in her fancy Paris hotel.

Did baked eggs ever look like they tasted so good?

Did Streep fuck Fionda to get that role?

I meant Jane Fonda.

I'm, R2 & R4 - & I'm not getting it.

BE the movie.

She looks insane.

I'm the rickety old house on the beach in somewhere like Cape Cod, that everyone falls in love with - except I'm in Northern France and was erected for the movie.

I'm the unreleased 1981 Stevie Nicks song inspired by the movie.

I am Jane Fonda's hat. Actually all of Jane's hats in the movie, but especially this one.

I'm the typewriter than Lillian throws out the window. Unfortunately I go crashing to the ground before I can tell her that only hacks blame their tools.

R7 it is the look of political fanaticism. Happy political fanaticism, before it turns to angry political fanaticism.

I'm the young Julia - I care about things rich kids shouldn't care about - like servants living in inaequate quarters and such...and poverty in India - things like that.

I'll be young Lillian AND young Julia. Our scenes are the draggiest of the whole movie and should have been cut right down.

I am Meryl Streep, summoning my best "resting bitchface" look.

I'm the butch dyke Lillian Hellman, whose life the movie is about. I beard for Dashiell Hammett, just like Hepburn did for Tracy.

I'm all the people who said "Boy, Jane Fonda looked NOTHING like the real, Lillian Hellman!" - as though it mattered.

I'm the implied incest between Anne Marie and her brother. I'm also the sore jaw said brother experienced after Lillian slugged him for implying she and Julie were lesbos.

I'm Jane Fonda, looking worried and intense on the beach in 'Cape Cod'.

Worried and intense suits me - funny and amused, not so much.

I am the questionable storyline of sending a Jew into Nazi Germany to deliver bribe money.

I am one of many scenes that evoke pentimento.

PLEASE, R21 - teach ME how to 'evoke pentimento'.

(I'll make it worth your while).

R21's post keeps making me laugh - incl. the silly photo.

I'm the lesbian subtext that's so obvious it's not subtext anymore

I'm Meir Kahane, head of the JDL and declared a "terrorist" by anti-semitic warmongering gentile narc Richard Nixon, organizing a protest over that racist goy bitch Vanessa Redgrave and her support for Palestinazi terrorism. And how does a Hollywood supposedly run by Jews reward her for her prejudiced goysplaining bullshit? With an Oscar that gives her a platform to spread her bigoted bile. She should have been deplatformed along with Anita Bryant for the exact same reasons.

First, that particular scene looks like a painting and, if I recall correctly, it dissolves into another scene of a train station. Isn't that evocative of pentimento?

^^ meant for R22.

I'm Islamist hoodlum Yasser Arafat arranging to have a screening for me and my fellow PA terrorists.

I am the movie 'The Palestinian' that caused all the fuss.

Where can I be seen today?

I'm the very unimportant Meryl Streep scenes everyone now makes such a thing about.

""""

I can't imagine a well-acted, adult drama like this anymore. Or any actresses able to handle the job.

Hmm, Shailene Woodley and Dakota Fanning?

I know. Me, either, R32. Maybe some English actresses.

Haha, r3. Nice to know I'm not the only one who thought that about the eggs scene.

I'm your ass as it gets achey from fidgeting with boredom while watching this movie.

I am Julia telling Lilly in a heart stopping scene "...something else is needed." Memorable words.

[quote]I'm the unreleased 1981 Stevie Nicks song inspired by the movie.

And I'm the other Stevie Nicks song inspired by the movie -- the one that *was* released:

I'm the girl on the train who saved Lily's clueless ass by snatching her candy box and using it to distract the German police officer, just as he was about to inspect her money-filled fur hat.

[quote]She should have been deplatformed

Go back to Middlebury College, Social Justice Warrior Freakshow.

I quite like "de-platformed."

I'm Jason Robards. Fuck you.

I'm the clenched jaw of Jane Fonda, I am always present and one of myriad physical 'tells' that there is nothing about her acting that is spontaneous, playful or authentic.

I like being rich, Dash.

I'm the actor in this scene. I recognise me but I don't know who I am. Do YOU?

I'm the three minute conversation she went through hell and high water to have with Julia.

[quote]Haha, [R3]. Nice to know I'm not the only one who thought that about the eggs scene.

Gurl, every time I've had eggs for breakfast in Paris I've thought of that scene.

R45 Yes, all to hold Julia's hand & never kissed until her death. It was a "soft boiled egg & toast," Very different.

Very much one of the first film to show women being courageous for one another. Admiring and regarding the other as heroic. Remarkable, though Hellman stole another woman's story, that was likely as close to the truth with such a calamitous War. I have no doubt similar truths repeated many times over. Even Anne Franks Annex story is all about courage in the face of Facism.

Kinda makes "Thelma & Louise" soft looking by comparison. Sarandon is no Julia.

I'm the smartass in the beret.

Why didn't I take the fucking money into Germany?

I'm the color yellow.

[quote] It was a "soft boiled egg & toast," Very different.

I'm R47 - I'm hilarious (& a stickler for detail).

I am the sweaters.

I'm the on set hairdresser.

Two for the price of one (see R51).

I am a 38 year old Oxford student.

>>>>

One of my favorites.

My late best friend & I saw and referenced this film many times.

Amy Adams & Kate Winslet could do this.

Vanessa Redgrave deserved her Oscar for this breathtaking performance.

...sorry, I'm the leg brace.

I'm the posh (or maybe we're just actor-ish) English couple who meet Lillian at the station in Berlin - pretending to be her long lost friends.

We're marvellous!

I'm the snooty, superior Paris hotel concierge. I ALWAYS answer English speakers in English, however much trouble they've gone to, to address me in French.

I am Jason Robards.

Everyone forgets that >> I << won an Oscar for this thing. Probably because they couldn't believe it.

Click on the pic to see it.

I am Dash.

She's wearing my ass paper thin.

She's so selfish and self-obsessed!

& I'm fed up with her dykey obsession with Julia.

R55 Vanessa Redgrave sure did deserve that Oscar. It was a remarkable event to see the 2 leading women actors, the 2 leading political activists star in a film about real life Political Resistance. At the end of the 70's second of wave Feminism no less. It was mind blowing, both understood they were about Women's empowerment and both embraced Feminism.

Decades later Geena Davis would also state solidarity with Feminism. Sarandon would surrender her's for Cougarism.

I think Suffragette was the best feminist movie lately, and there are some nice scenes of women supporting each other in that as well.

I am the fabulous red dress that Jane Fonda wears. I can't believe nobody's mentioned me yet.

Gurl, who remembers some stupid dress?

R 64 LOL. Really, Fonda, Redgrave or a dress?

I'm the first draft of "The Children's Hour" that Dash advises Lily to tear up.

And I'm the second draft; according to Dash, I'm the "best play ever written".

I'm the mysterious woman in the train compartment who, a propos the hat, declaims knowingly, "You try ON?"

& I'm the other mysterious woman who's adamant that the hat looks great on her.

Since r3 immediately beat me to it, I'm the hot milk that Maximilian is equally unable to pay for.

I'm Julia's pegleg.

I'm also the words "and" and "the," which flow as lies from Lillian's pen.

I'm Fred Zimmerman - directing them in the Tuileries (thanks spellcheck)

I'm a Zionist hoodlum.

I am the remake starring Emily Blunt and AnnE Hathaway that I hope never gets made

I'm the cheap Paris hotel Lillian stays in (with the only phone, on the landing) WAITING for months for Julia's call.

(Boy, ces lesbiennes, when they are in love - they are like pit-bulls, non?)

I'm the cigarettes Jane chain-smokes throughout the movie. Pauline Kael will say that Bette Davis never smoked so much in all her movies combined than Jane smoked here.

This thread is the best! LOL, it is one of my all time favorite movies - great laughs.

[quote] it is one of my all time favorite movies - great laughs.

The thread or the movie?

I'm Walter Franz

Makes me want to get a copy of it. There is something lacking in the plot and dialogue, but I like the visuals, Vanessa and the atmosphere. I think Jane looks her best in this film.

Hello to you. Hello.

I'm Julia's travel companions who Julia seems to hate.

I'm the DLer who strangely hasn't arrived yet to sneer at us for having an interest in this 'old' film.

They're over at the The Warhol Diaries thread R83.

I'm the Hegel and Einstein that Julia's reading.

I'm the two protaganists who have both justified fear and hatred of vile Hitler, so they champion vile Stalin.

Julia was very much the snob hit when it first came out. In those days, Hellman had quite an ethical reputation. Though others accused her, notably Mary Mc Carthy, it didn't come out until after Hellman's death that Julia was pretty much a lie; in the dates she specifies, she was actually traveling in Stalinist U. S.S.R.

I'm all the sneering Nazis innocent Jane encounters. I love to dress up and terrorize idiot actresses.

I'm the big stick that Julia uses so courageously to fight those Nazis.

I'm the awful wig that Fred Zinneman later wrote a letter of apology for to M.

I'm the caviar Albert had to run out for that then sat virtually untouched during their last encounter.

I am Sardi's.

I'm the fish that Dash's roasting on a fire, but which Lilian doesn't seem to touch at all as she's too busy knocking back whisky from a flask.

I'm Dashiell's tough love and horrible personality, which doesn't seem to bother Lillian too much.

I'm amazed so many people know this film so well.

It was a famous film, in its time - but not really a classic.

Boy, so many people must have really felt duped when it came out that the story was a fake.

[quote]I'm the big stick that Julia uses so courageously to fight those Nazis.

That IS a powerful scene.

I'm the powerful scene.

I'm not Mary McCarthy that went on Dick Cavett calling Lillian Hellman a liar and plagiarist for stealing someone else's story. No I surely am not her.

I AM the 20 something lesbian that saw "Julia" and was swept away by the bravery of these two gorgeous and incredibly smart women. I AM the gay young woman that was inspired by the courage of women in an awful time of Holocaust, spies and the resistance of White Rose And so many students that were murdered at the hands of Right wing fascists - very much like "Julia" portrayed.

I wish young male adults also had such inspiration like "Julia" in this day of Trumplandia. (All they have is fucking old do nothing Bernie who bestows the medal of "Progressive" on no one - cause according to him - no one can do progressive rhetoric and nothing else, quite like him!) However the young activist Lesbians do have a modern "Julia" in Hillary Rodham Clinton with her 10,000 Domestic and Global good deeds. Everything from ending Female Gen Mutilation, brokering 3 Peace & anti Nuke Treaties, expanding womens Health care and BC services globally, giving power to young feminist innovators that change their 3rd world countries for the better via VitalVoices.

Thank God for "Julia" and the inspiration she was to Boomer Women everywhere!

she lost r98.

Time to move on.

I'm the roll he used to sop up the egg on his plate. Poor man was so grateful for one egg, a roll, and warm milk. He devoured his breakfast.

R99 The inspiring story of Women's resistance "Julia" in the face of Authoritarianism and destruction of Democracy has never been more relevant. HRC has helped end FGM in 23 countries. Just last month she awarded a young tech wiz for creating an app to report sexual assaults to police so they can step up patrols - in India. After the brutal rape and murder of a young woman on a public bus. The app has gone Global. HRC awarded/honored a Woman/Malawi Tribal leader that has survived vicious attacks after annulling marriages of child (10, 11 12 yr old girls) brides. 3 of 10,000 You need to read a paper - this is what "Julia" looks like today. #Resistance #Julia #ThisIsWhatDemocracyLooksLike

Hellman wished she were one quarter as attractive as Jane was!

[quote]I'm the roll he used to sop up the egg on his plate. Poor man was so grateful for one egg, a roll, and warm milk. He devoured his breakfast.

& I'm his mother. VERY concerned to hear he was STILL asking for warm milk for breakfast as an adult man. & maybe he should have MANNED-UP and taken the money into Germany HIMSELF and not bothered some Nervous Nellie American Jewish writer who he had no business bothering with this most dreadful task.

[quote] Let's be the movie Julia.

Why on earth would we want to do that?

I am Ann-Marie, waiting to waylay Lillian on her big, celebratory night.

Fun fact: Fred Zinnemann didn't like the look of the UK background actors hired for the Sardi's scenes (he didn't think they looked enough like upscale New Yorkers) so he actually got NY casting director Sylvia Fay to bring 10 background actors with her to London. They stayed there for a week for fittings and then the shoot. Several Sardi's scenes ended up being cut, anyway.

[quote] Several Sardi's scenes ended up being cut, anyway.

They should have cut the childhood scenes instead.

God, how they dragged.

I'm my first film role.

I'm the Oscar Best Supporting Award that should have gone to Maximilian Schell aka the starving Jewish intellectual, instead of clunky Jason Robards who put in a charmless performance.

[quote]who can forget the breakfast scene?

was I in that?

Fortunately, you weren't, r110.

[quote]G, your Nemesis and the Better Thespian

good for you G for finally coming out. It's never too late. Barry Manilow just came out today too. I mean it was really getting obvious in your case too.

Oh wait you said thespian. never mind.

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[quote]I'm the Oscar Best Supporting Award that should have gone to Maximilian Schell aka the starving Jewish intellectual

I preferred Peter Firth's lovely presentation.

I'm THIS scene from the movie.

Peter Firth, R114?

I'm r25, a fucking SJW bore and Vanessa Redgrave hater still stuck in the 70s.

I'm the initials on Julia's pegleg.

yes r114 he was in Equus and nominated opposite Robards and Schell

I'm the sable coat Lilly has the right to buy.

I'm Jane's bright red lipstick.

PS: Are there any good biographies on Vanessa Redgrave?

I'm the Russian hat which the money was hid in. Sorry, was I mentioned already?

[quote]PS: Are there any good biographies on Vanessa Redgrave?

Try reading the one she wrote.

I'm the nurse whose eyes are staring at the dust in the corner while saying "She's in treatment" like a zombie.

Is it good, R123?

Did you guys know that Faye Dunaway was supposed to play Julia and Barbra Streisand was supposed to be Lillian? True story! Would the film be regarded as a camp classic had they played the roles? Would we have Julia and Lillian drag queens quoting the lines complete with crutches and hats? LOL

I'd never heard about Dunaway. Streisand has said she made a mistake by turning down this film. Not sure why she did. Not sure if she could have pulled it off. She was known has such a comedian at this time that people may have expected a wacky car chase or something.

I always thought they wanted an unknown for the role of Julia. Meryl infamously flew all the way to London to audition for it thinking she was a finalist for the role and then they suddenly cast a big star like Redgrave.

Poor M that must have been so humiliating for her. (and then she just got that little role and had to wear the bad wig that the director later formally apoligized to her for how he made her look in the film. Che Brutta!

I am Hedwig. I have nothing to do with this movie.

I am just fucking with you.

[quote]Boy, so many people must have really felt duped when it came out that the story was a fake.

Shut-up! Julia is a true real story, so get over yourself!

Why did they replace Diahnn Carroll as Julia?

[quote]I'm the roll he used to sop up the egg on his plate. Poor man was so grateful for one egg, a roll, and warm milk. He devoured his breakfast.

I'm me.

I'd LOVE to buy some old guy an egg and hot milk at a hotel in Paris in the 30s and have him be so grateful

Dese ist meine beste freunde, Julia.

That scene was fabulous.

I heard Totie Fields and Goldie Hawn were originally going to play the main roles but they disbanded due to artistic differences.

Lucille Ball was set to play Lillian Hellman in the movie, but Gary talked her out of it.

One of those films that probably wasn't great cinema but one I liked very much.

I'm the camera in Meryl Streep's one scene. I linger on Jane Fonda, even when Meryl is speaking, because Meryl is a nobody to me.

I'm Julia; I'm so impressed by Germany's very clean toilets.

I'm snotty Annette; I tell Lillian she's looking very slim.

I'm the skull in the Russia's Hamlet, while Lillian falls asleep in the theatre.

I'm the jar of mayonnaise (likely Hellman's), that Lillian buys now that's she's famous.

I'm the sandwich Lillian eats while she's smoking a cigarette.

"I'm Paris and I'm a string of beads...."

Julia and Lillian in a lesboemotional moment.

I'm Paris and I'm a string of beads on a hot dancer...

R144 is R1.

I'm a twenty year old student at Oxford.

I am also an eye roll ( a major one).

I'm Jason Robards, wishing i hadn't taken part in this piece of shit movie.

I'm a zionist hoodlum who thought Redgrave was overrated.

I’m the 15 year old queer kid in the movie theater who wished to have male friends as butch as Julia and Lillian.

[quote]I'm Jason Robards, wishing i hadn't taken part in this piece of shit movie.

So hand back your fucking Oscar, Jason. You bitch!

Imagine making this story up, pretending it was true in your published book AND allowing a high profile film with top stars to be made, based on your lie.

It's unbelievable.

Or, maybe it wasn't a lie.

I don't think it was ever clarified.

[quote] "I heard Totie Fields and Goldie Hawn were originally going to play the main roles but they disbanded due to artistic differences."

They would have saved a couple bucks on props as Totie already had a wooden leg.

R139, oh dear. Her name was Anne-Marie, not Annette.

Wow! So much love for a fairly mediocre movie!

I mean - it looks great - but it's really unsatisying on so many levels - another example of the triumph of style over substance.

It came out when I was a kid and too young to see it. But remember a local film critic (here in Oz) being controversial in his comments about how Jane fonda's performance largely consisted of her obscenely sucking on a cigarette and trying to look 'deep'. He was a much beloved old queen - but I was shocked at his vitriol (I was practically a child!) - and I'd liked Fonda in the things I'd seen her in on TV over the years...

Anyway: finally saw Julia as an adult when it was on TV many years later. And he was absolutely right. Whole thing was dull and pretentious - and by this time I was - and am! - a huge fan of both Fonda and Redgrave - and Robards.

They all made much better films. And expect there are lots of actresses today who could actually breathe fresh life into it as a remake with a revised script.

Mind you, wonder if they'd have the courage to cast someone that was Hellman-level attractive in her role - or would they still go for a glamour girl?

Maybe they could do both - but turn it into an Oscar-bait turn by giving her a nasal prosthetic a la Kidman in The Hours?

Thank god Streisand didnt do this - would have been relegated to a dust bin.

The casting was perfect - Meryl may have been devastated that hers was a minor role but it was played perfectly and became part of the Homoerotic undertone.

[quote] And here's something you don't know. On my graduation day... my little sister cried like an infant. She took my arm and kissed me and gave me a tender touch. And within minutes...within minutes, Lillian, it was done. What I'd wanted to do all those years, she had the same ideas as I had...

I'm Paddy Chayefsky, and I rip Vanessa Redgrave a new asshole on the Academy Awards after she gives her "Zionist hoodlums" speech.

Yes ‘Zionist Hoodlums” was kinda awful - but funny how men liked to slam and destroy the careers of both Fonda & Redgrave over their political convictions. The two most talented actresses of that generation - and actually thier positions on these issues were correct in a very broad sense.

[quote]I'm amazed so many people know this film so well. It was a famous film, in its time - but not really a classic.

R94, we're not "so many people" - we're homosexuals.

Truth is that this is a film for OUR time - #RESISTANCE is now real. This needs to be a television program with both Jane & Vanessa as elder Feminist & Jane as Past President of Planned Parenthood. Put it on CBS back to back with Christine Branski in “The Good Fight.”

[quote]Meryl Streep salutes Jane Fonda and thanks her for casting her in her first movie "Julia"

I think she says quite that, R2....but I enjoyed the clip you posted.

I am the sorbet that is had in between dinner courses. I cleanse the palate.

I am Jane Fonda telling Paul Mazursky that if he wants her to appear in An Unmarried Woman he can follow her to London to convince her.

I'm Tilda Swinton passed out on the sidewalk....oh wait, wrong "Julia"