- And she thinks she was something special because she 'entertained' very low grade TV actors at her home along with Nancy & Ron Reagan and Prince Charles used her hideous home for a fundraiser.
She is a very sick and delusional woman. She must be excessively empty inside to have spent her whole life accummulating massive amounts of consumer goods and collectibles.
And she built the hideous house which took seven years as if she is royalty.
- Are Tori and her brother still disinherited from Candy's will?
- I wonder what went through Prince Charles' mind when he was there. After all, the decor was selected to match that of the finest royal houses in Europe!
- She always reminded me of a low class Lily Safra, at least Candy Spelling didn't have her husband murdered.
- She made a point of saying she got ready for the Emmys and Golden Globes in her ugly, oversized bathroom which looked like a 1950's tasteless beauty salon -
as if anyone cared that she attended the Emmys and Golden Globes.
What an empty vacuous soul.
Although she has no soul.
- Were they disinherited? I know that Tori received a small amoung and I thought that her brother was still in good graces with the mother. I guess they'll have to wait until she kicks the bucket unless she decides to do something else with the fortune.
I wonder if Tori has any insight into how she's repeating her father's romantic history and marrying a gold digger.
- Aaron Spelling was hideous looking. Sorry, it's just a fact. Extremely ugly man.
Oddly, Tori was quite pretty as a teenager and on the early TV shows when she was a teenager and early 20's.
I don't understand what happened to Tori's face since she was once quite pretty. Now Tori's face looks so very odd and unattractive.
As it that the older Tori became the more she morphed into looking like her father?
- That show was unbelievable. She collected everything, even Beanie Babies. Tori appeared on the showcand they seemed friendly.
- Tori is posting all over this thread!
- If you watch 'Tori and Dean' weekly reality show on Oxygen channel, you have seen that Tori and Candy reconciled about a year or so ago.
They are friendly. Candy sees the two grandkids and goes to Tori's house on occasion.
I don't think they are particularly close emotionally - they are just trying to now be friendly.
- At one point Candi said that they built the house so that the family could live there forever. I guess she was assuming that Tori and her husband and babies and Randy and his wife and babies would all live there, too. Of course, the kids moved out to get away from her, leaving her all alone in that huge place, surrounded only by her stuff, staff, and silence (other than the yappy dogs, natch).
Tori was never attractive, btw. Not in the Hollywood sense (Shannon Doherty, Jenny Garth, etc.) Bug eyes, weird jaw.
- WEHT to Randy Spelling? He always set my gaydar on fire.
- Is Tori's husband really a gold digger? He seems attracted to her.
- That house looked just like the set of Dynasty - the interiors were very similar in style, especially the library/office. Those sets were really pretty dull, not very plush.
- The mind set of a person who would build that house the way it was is appalling.
Truly decadent and without taste nor conscience nor understanding of the world.
- I think she's tremendous.
- I do think Tori was pretty in her teenage years and early 20's.
I just cannot figure out why her face looks so terribly weird. odd, and unattractive now.
Weird that her face morphed into a face more like her father's as she got into her late 20's and 30's.
- Candy thought she was hot stuff when she had the low run spanish actor from the island show at a party at her house.
very delusional woman
- OMG that is ugly. Tacky isn't the word. I'm no designer but it looks t me like the furniture and the fireplaces are too small for the scale of the rooms. Rooms that big call for BIG furniture. It looks like clusters of doll furniture scattered around
- Just curious--could the people that say Tori used to be attractive please post a link to a pic? I'm not saying she's a dog, but she's always had those bug eyes. TIA.
- When I saw that house on the HGTV special, all I could think of Dolly Parton's famous quote, "It takes a lot of money to look this trashy."
The place reeked of nouveau riche excess and there was nothing refined about it in the least. I loved it when Candy talked about making numerous trips with her decorator to Europe for multiple antiques/art work/fireplaces so that the place "would have integrity."
Bad taste drunk with money. (And, no, I'm no Elle Decor or House Beautiful interior designer, but I know bad taste when I see it.)
That said, her decorator seemed so sweet but his taste seems to be of the Versailles Vulgarity' school.
Nobody needs a 56,000 sq ft home and a 17,000 ft attic. (That 'attic' (aka warehouse) was the most fascinating part of the whole tour to me. It looked like a Marshall's store with aisle after aisle of luggage/decorations, etc. )
I remember on one of the Tori/Dean episodes she talked about her Uncle Daniel and dad Aaron growing up in extreme poverty (in Texas I believe) on the wrong side of the tracks. Only someone with a deep insecurity about money would have built a house that excessive. Yes, it was built in the 80's but it was over-the-top even for that time period.
- Where can I see this tv show? I'm intrigued.
- [quote]I remember on one of the Tori/Dean episodes she talked about her Uncle Daniel and dad Aaron growing up in extreme poverty (in Texas I believe) on the wrong side of the tracks. Only someone with a deep insecurity about money would have built a house that excessive.
People who were poor when young do tend to be the most materialistic and generally have horrid taste. They think anything gilded or rococo is high class.
- "People who were poor when young do tend to be the most materialistic and generally have horrid taste. They think anything gilded or rococo is high class."
So what's Donald Trump's excuse?
- R22, it's airing on the HGTV channel and the program is called "Selling Spelling Manor". Go to their website for the schedule.
I can't quite tell but at first glance it looks to be a 2-episode show. Part 1 aired last night and dealt with Candy giving a tour and packing up after it was sold. (Thousands of items are going to be put in storage until she decides what to auction/donate/take with her to her new condo.)
Part 2 airs in early January and deals with her selling her stored items and 'downsizing' to her new luxury 17,000 sq ft condo.
Not to be missed!
- I guess Trump is simply vulgar or trying to distract from his ugly mug and that dead animal on his head by surrounding himself with gaudy shit.
- Randy Spelling is a life coach and he also got married to a woman (I thought he was gay) last year.
- The only place in Canada where you can buy Donald Trump Home Furnishings Collection is The Brick, a fairly low-end furniture and housewares chain. So much for tacky "luxury".
- Who knows, just a guess, but something tells me the Trump family, even with their real estate money, may have been looked down on by the WASPy old New York set during the dying days of that world when Trump came of age.
So I'm sure it must have been galling for him to be dismissed or kept on the sidelines and he was bound and determined to "show them" how great he could be and make them eat his dust.
His constant bragging seems strange for a grown man and to me it screams of deep insecurity. He gets livid if anyone ever questions his worth/status/competency. And you can tell he eats it up when Apprentice contestants kow tow and call him "Mr. Trump." He seems very damaged on some level to be that obsessed with being admired.
I will say that he sure seems to have raised bright kids who actually work for a living and don't blow through their trust fund running around clubs all the time.
- Oh you're all just jealous. Hell, I would have lived in the attic.
- Candy Spelling is a grotesque, and the house is grotesque in equal measure.
It's not the size or the expense of the house that's vulgar, it's the mean cheapness of everything, the attitude that money trumps all, that there is no need to travel or to study or take the counsel of experts, rather it is enough just to dictate one's infantile, undeveloped taste for something flashy and ZsaZsa and Disney-chateauesque and trust that money spent equals taste earned.
On the outskirts of any small town there's always a hulking behemoth house of garish taste, sitting bare-assed on a little rise, the view of its wildly over-scaled "Palladium" windows uninterrupted by trees, the whole paid for by a few Papa John's pizza franchises or a chain of car dealerships. Spelling Manor is a half-dozen of those houses fused together and piped with confectionery frosting in vaguely French classical motifs. But the effect is not Loire Valley or Parisian hotel particulier but a fantasy island resort for a 1970s convention of exiled South American despots.
Everywhere in the house is the evidence of architects and designers who were browbeaten into just saying, "Yes, Mrs. Spelling" and giving to Candy what Candy wanted. She may as well have hired her maids and gardeners to design the house based on napkin sketches drawn by Moammar Gadhafi tripping on acid. The scale of everything is off, the finishes are cheap, the spaces ill-conceived like a modern day Winchester Mystery House, but without any of its kooky half-charms.
The best thing that can be said of Spelling Manor is that it fits Candy Spelling to a tee.
- Randy is straight? Well, will wonders never cease.
- [quote]She may as well have hired her maids and gardeners to design the house based on napkin sketches drawn by Moammar Gadhafi tripping on acid.
I love you R31
[quote]On the outskirts of any small town there's always a hulking behemoth house of garish taste, sitting bare-assed on a little rise, the view of its wildly over-scaled "Palladium" windows uninterrupted by trees, the whole paid for by a few Papa John's pizza franchises or a chain of car dealerships. Spelling Manor is a half-dozen of those houses fused together and piped with confectionery frosting in vaguely French classical motifs. But the effect is not Loire Valley or Parisian hotel particulier but a fantasy island resort for a 1970s convention of exiled South American despots.
Marry me R31
- [quote]If you watch 'Tori and Dean' weekly reality show on Oxygen channel, you have seen that Tori and Candy reconciled about a year or so ago.
I know that they reconciled, but Tori (and her brother who was never estranged from their mom) only revieved $800,000 each when Aarron died, and I read that the majority of Candy's money will go to charity.
- That was pretty vicious R31 (and mostly accurate). The hate for her here is shocking. She isn't a serial killer after all. She seems like a pleasant sort of woman, although quite dim and shallow.
I want to see what she does with the proceeds. Maybe she'll surprise us all and start a foundation or give to some worthy charities. Then maybe the DL could forgive her (a little) for being so obnoxiously wealthy and crass.
- I got home from work early today, fixed a late lunch and now I'm lounging on the sofa smoking some weed. I can't describe to you how freaky it is to read this:
[quote] She may as well have hired her maids and gardeners to design the house based on napkin sketches drawn by Moammar Gadhafi tripping on acid.
- Well, if she does donate most of excess crap to charity ill give her pass
She set up a decent trust fund for her grand kids for college.
Other than that, she sounds like a small-minded women.
- Those are some creepy dolls.
- It was fascinating in a can't take your eyes off a train wreck kind of way. The furniture was horrible. Horrible. Bland, dull and with no personality or style at all.
When she declared that for dinner parties she "loved French service" I nearly did a spit take. Of course I immediately set the DVR to catch the next episode.
Teeny Beany Baby in a storage tub
- Anyone who is a shopaholic and spendaholic on the level of Candy Spelling is deeply troubled, empty inside, and profoundly mentally unbalanced.
To poster above speaking to Aaron Spelling's low income growing up, the one-hour special last night let it be known that the design and building of the vulgar, ostentatious monstrosity was built strictly by Candy and to the desires of Candy.
They pointed out that Aaron Spelling was not interested in the design and building and furnishing of the house - all the decision regarding the design and building of the monstrosity were left to Candy.
- She looks like a frog.
- In watching Tori's reality show of her daily life called 'Tori and Dean' on Oxygen channel, one can quickly see that Tori picked up some habits and interests from her mother.
Luckily, the habits and interests are nowhere near the excessiveness and grandiosity that her mother, Candy, displays.
Candy's grandiosity is pure mental illness.
It also makes her seem like she was profoundly lonely. Her husband had his very involving work, while she no involving work.
- Her new condo only cost her $35 million.
- I don't sit up in an ivory tower reading classics and pondering current events all day, but I was surprised at the seeming lack of anything of cultural value in that monstrosity (except for a handful of antiques).
The 'library' seemed to be modeled on great libraries found in centuries-old European country homes, but it was telling that Candy filled the shelves with leather bound editions of... her husband's scripts. I loved it when the camera panned in closely to one of the beautifully bound books with the embossed title "Charlie's Angels- Episode 6" on the spine.
(And apparently all of his scripts are being bequeathed to (Boston?) college. What an asset for any academic institution to have for generations to come. I know many alumni will want to return to campus to view "Love Boat" scripts during homecoming weekend.)
There were so many rooms of Candy's collected treasures, i.e. Beanie Babies (with those acquired from McDonald's happy meals getting special mention from Candy), Madame Alexander dolls. The staggering amount of collected kitsch was mind-blowing. All of that expensive Holmby Hills square footage dedicated to storing Walmart quality crap.
I may have seen a couple of Impressionist paintings on the walls but other that that it was striking how little of cultural value seemed to be in that palace.
Candy portrayed herself as the height of class and elegance entertaining guests that included the Reagans, Joan Collins and Prince Charles (who probably saw a chance to raise $1M in a single night by sucking it up and pimping himself out to yet another tacky wealthy American).
And naming the house "The Manor" is just the cherry on the sundae. I believe Countess LuAnne (that name alone sums up the irony) put in best when she sang so eloquently, "Money can't buy ya class."
- Aaron Spelling's first wife was actress Carolyn Jones, most famously remembered as Morticia Addams on the original Addams Family TV show, though I believe they were already long-divorced by then.
I fondly remember her playing the wacky bongo-playing beatnik with the blue toenails in the 1959 Frank Sinatra film A Hole in the Head.
I think when Aaron began his TV producing career he was still going by his real last name of Sperling.
- Re: the question about Dean being a golddigger:
He was definitely after Tori's money, but more importantly, it was also her Hollywood connections. Dean was a very frustrated actor whose acting career went nowhere in Canada. The guy has an enormous ego and felt like he should've been a big success. It's been rumored that he laughed about hooking up with Tori after their first night together, joking about her fugly appearance with his friends at the time. But I have nothing to back that up, it was Internet gossip I read somewhere.
- I always get a kick out of seeing the young Aaron Spelling in the I Love Lucy episode where he gives them directions to Cousin Ernie Ford's home town down South. He looked just like he looked when he got old. I wonder if he imagined just how big and rich he would become in TV.
- Luckily, Tori and Dean's two children, Liam age 4 and Stella age 2, are absolutely adoreable. The cutest kids ever.
The two kids talk quite a bit on the Oxygen show 'Tori and Dean' and I get a kick out of the cute things they say, especially Liam.
Liam and Stella both got the good looks of their father, Dean. While at the same time, Liam looks quite a bit like Tori's brother.
Tori and Dean have a 3rd kid now - a new baby a few months old.
Dean is tremendously into his kids with Tori.
And he does appear to enjoy being with Tori.
- [quote]So what's Donald Trump's excuse?
A string of Eastern European or Southern White Trash wives who are in charge of the Trump visuals and do things like name their kids Tiffany.
- The fact that she admitted going Costco to Costco, buying out each store's stock of nut crackers, was so obsessive. I also found the attic the most interesting especially her collection of Map of The World pleather suitcases.
Hopefully after all of the auctions she'll let loose of some shekels for poor Tori who desperately needs her breast augmentation re-done.
- Dean is still a very frustrated actor.
He apparently gets very few roles, and would like to be working tremendously more than the sporadic infrequent roles he gets.
Tori is the bread winner in that she authors successful biographical books about her life, and also children's books and a book about party planning. She has a children's clothing line.
She also does personal appearances, and creates her reality series on Oxygen - one about their married life and one about creating weddings for others.
- Dean is fugly as are those brats. His eyes are way too close together.
- Tori was funding an expensive and dangerous motorcycle racing hobby for him. He was thinking "career" like so many arrogant guys but instead got into a crash and injured himself.
- Candy is a HOARDER with money imo and the manor appeared every outdated. Just think one wing was nixed from the plans.
- I forgot to ask if Dean's kid (or is it kids?) from his previous marriage is ever on the show or even mentioned...
- I think Dean is good looking. And he also has some sex appeal.
He is also very tall which adds to his attractiveness.
- Dean's kid made at least one appearance on the show. They blurred out his face. It was weird to see a little blurry faced child running around the house.
- R55, last season or season befoe on 'Tori and Dean' the 11 year old son from Dean's first wife (11 at the time - either 11 or 13) came for a visit at Tori and Dean's house in Los Angeles, and the show showed him visiting with Tori and Dean.
Dean has just the one son with his previous wife. The previous wife is very good looking.
The previous wife and Dean had just adopted a baby daughter when Dean and Tori met on a movie set in Canada -
Dean never went back to the previous wife and newly adopted baby after that meeting, so Dean never got to know the new adopted baby.
- R57, the kid was not 'little' - he was age 11 or 12 or 13. 11, at the time, I think.
- Tori has always looked like a pug.
- How much was Aaron Spelling worth?
- Tori Spelling as a teenager
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=tori spelling as a teenager&hl=en&sa=X&rlz=1T4ADFA_enUS371US371&biw=1280&bih=789&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnso&tbnid=3-Bj7qewDAkWtM:&imgrefurl=http://mainstreetmallonline.com/fanstuff/listingview.php?num=18332&ref=13&docid=cA
- I don't think Tori's kids are cute at all, let alone the cutest ever. They look like they inherited Dean's weasel-y qualities to me. Maybe Hattie will have bugs eyes like Tori.
- I don't see how anyone could not think that Liam (4) and Stella (2) are not adoreable and super cute.
What do you mean that Liam and Stella inherited Dean's weasel-y qualities?
What is weasel-y about Liam and Stella?
- Dean face looks pointy, like a weasel, and he has shady eyes. The older kids seem to favor him, looks wise, which is probably a good thing. Not saying these kids are totally gross little trolls, just objecting to the idea that they are the "cutest kids ever!!"
- You sound ugly, R65, and stupid to boot.
- r66, you sound dim-witted and celebrity obsessed.
- R65, you failed to explain how Liam and Stella behave in a weasel-y way - like their father, according to you.
How do Liam and Stella behave weasel-y? You said they inherited Dean's weasel-y ways.
- Could someone please post photos of the kids so we could all be judgmental?
For that matter, how about a photo of Dean? I'm enjoying this thread but don't really watch Tori's show.
- Reread please. I said that they inherited Dean's weasel-y qualities, meaning looks. You are really dumb, huh?
- [quote]I don't think Tori's kids are cute at all, let alone the cutest ever.
You're nutz, regardless of what you think of Tori and Reran, they make pretty babies.
- another photo of Dean
- Liam and Stella when they were younger in photo -
now they are are a year or two older than in the photo
A lot of their current cuteness at ages 4 and almost 3 are what they say when they speak...
Liam speaks in a very cute way and what he says is often funny and cute
same with Stella
- There's another thread out there about the 23 yr old billionaire's daughter who bought "The Manor". She was interviewed on ET this fall while walking through the place. She said she has plans to totally redo many of the rooms.
iT must be beyond surreal to be 23 yrs old and buy a 56,000 sq ft mansion. Who in God's name would want that much space? I think it sounds creepy to rattle around in all that.
(Sure, it beats a postage stamp NYC apt but there's something 'off' to me about wanting such an impersonally large living area. The place seemed not only tacky beyond belief but very sterile during Candy's tour. Not a warm, homey place at all. More like a hotel.)
- [quote]Candy is a HOARDER with money imo
Agreed. There was room after room of stored crap. Sometimes people have more money than is good for them and Candy may be addicted to shopping and hoarding. Not many people would be able to do it on her scale.
I'm wondering if she's going to be able to adjust her spending/shopping to her smaller (16,000 sq ft) new home. (Or maybe she'll just keep storing things if her new home gets overrun)
I'm also wondering what the hell some of those movers thought when they had to pack up all of that stuff. Lord knows how many trucks rolled out of there filled with Beanie Babies, dolls, decorations for every holiday, gift wrapping, and 'copious amounts of' nutcrackers from Costco.
- What a bunch of tacky crap to collect. She's got money why not collect art or rare artifacts?
- I'm with a previous poster. The attic was fascinating.
- All her dolls r on ebay
- I agree with R75 that the house was very sterile to the extreme inside. And very impersonal.
And it looked worse than any hotel.
I cannot fathom how someone could create such a woefully sterile interior.
I think it reflects the empty shell that is Candy's interior as a person. She is a vacuous empty shell.
- I didn't think she was that bad.
I was surprised to see that there is at least another episode airing, but it didn't show up on TIVO, anyone know when?
- January 02, 2012
4:00 PM eastern
found it at hgtv.com
- R81, you are odd.
Anyone who would build that house and the interior is a complete nut case.
- Puh-lease. Taste is subjective and people who diss other people are just trying to feel better about themselves.
- What a miserable, empty existence.
- The problem is the rooms are so large that it gives the house a warehouse look to it and makes it difficult to fill. Given the obstacle of decorating over 120 very large rooms the decorator did a good job. Real estate usually is the biggest investment people make so a very expensive house for super-wealthy people makes sense. Candy isn't as pretentious as you would expect for someone who has always been rich. She actually collected McDonald's toys and nutcrackers at Costco. With her money she could have had someone handcraft nutcrackers for her. I actually kinda of like her. She was on "The Wendy Williams Show" to show how to wrap Christmas presents. She injured her wrist wrapping gifts beforehand and had it in a cast.
- 120 rooms! Call in the HGTV Property Brothers and see if they can do their "open concept" magic.
- brain trust at R86
- Candy put the place on the market for $150 million, but she only got a mere $85 million. A 22-year-old heiress bought it.
The Spelling manse was built on the site of a former Bing Crosby house (which was much more of a fit for the hillside lot, and didn't LOOM over the surrounding houses like they were matchboxes). The neighbors HATE the Spelling house; if I recall correctly there were maybe some lawsuits raised, when it was being built, over how massive the place was in relation to the other homes. If you ever have a chance to drive by while in L.A., you won't miss it ... it engulfs the entire neighborhood. The Crosby house was much more suited to the surrounding environs and blended in quite nicely. Can't remotely say the same for the Spelling monstrosity.
Link to an article on the purchase and the new, 22-year-old owner:
- [quote]I loved it when Candy talked about making numerous trips with her decorator to Europe for multiple antiques/art work/fireplaces so that the place "would have integrity."
I can't believe I missed this show. Damn!
- Anyone with a sense of morals, conscience, environmental affinity, common sense, and good judgment would never have built that monstrosity.
Only a thoroughly decadent person lacking all affinity for environmental, neighborhood,and good citizen sensibilities, and lacking the good sense not to waste a gargantuan amount of millions of dollars.
Candy was a thoroughly corrupt individual lacking all sensibilities outlined above. And she lacks all sense of the public good.
She is morally corrupt, not to mention a vacuous empty person who tried to fill her inner emptiness by buying excessively and living excessively.
- R90, it is being repeated on the HGTV channel.
- [quote]So what's Donald Trump's excuse?
Forget Donald, how about the girl who BOUGHT Candy's house?
There are a lot of people born into wealth who have bad taste. I don't think a person's financial situation determines good/bad taste.
- The mother of the woman who bought the mansion is 6'2" and was a former Armani model. The daughter who bought the house looks really tall too. Check out how small her father looks next to both of them...
- I'll predict that the house will eventually be sold to someone who will tear it down, subdivide the property, and make a profit.
- That would probably be the best solution, R95. It's in a prime location. (Or maybe down the road some group would purchase it and turn it into a conference/event/luxury spa center? After all, 100 cars can park there.)
I can't imagine what the monthly/annual maintenance expenses would be on this property. (Staff/Security/Upkeep) It probably would be equivalent to that of a commercial building/hotel. I can't fathom shelling out that kind of money on a regular basis just to keep the place going.
I also wonder how many of the 114 rooms the Spellings actually used on a regular basis, probably only 8-12. (What a waste of upkeep and space re most of the other rooms.) I would think neither Tori nor Randi would have wanted to inherit it, as it's too big to ever feel like a true modern family "home". And as much as Dean might be a gold digger, I doubt that even he would want to deal with running that sterile, tacky museum.
No one with a truly refined sense of taste would want it. There are so many other beautiful estates on the market that aren't on such an excessive/impractical scale as "The Manor."
I don't envy the new buyer. I wonder when the bloom will be off the rose for her once she looks past the 'glitter' and sees what an expensive white elephant she got stuck with.
- I missed this but hopefully HGTV will rerun it.
I know someone that went to Beverly Hills High School with Candy and said she was nice, but nothing really special about her (except, I guess, that she knew how to pick a husband).
I agree that the house is insane and anyone living in it and loving it should be committed, but Aaron grew up very, very poor and I guess with that kind of mindset, as always having the least, he wanted to have the most. I think it also had to do with him wanting his family close. Make it so big and fill it with everything that nobody would ever want to leave. Again, a mindset that something that a difficult childhood could have contributed to.
Not sure how much Aaron was worth but I'm sure it was in the hundreds and hundreds of millions. At a time, when he was on fire in the 70's and 80's, the joke at ABC was that it wasn't the American Broadcasting Company but AARON'S Broadcasting Company, that's how deeply entrenched he was there. And although his shows might not have been the most high-brow, there's no denying the extremely deep impact his shows and its actors have had on pop culture, the television industry and our country in general. I mean, think about Farrah's poster, The Love Boat which is largely credited with launching the cruise industry, Dynasty, Family, etc, etc, etc. And according to wikipedia, in 2009, even 3 years after his death, Forbes magazine said he was the 11th highest earning celebrity!
- I think everyone is overreacting just a bit. First of all when they filmed that show on the "Manor" I think a lot of furniture and other items were all ready removed from the estate by the time the show aired and probably put in storage. What they showed was probably what was left over. The very wealthy don't move everything in a mansion that size and go, oh my gosh! I have only 30 days to move! That was done for the show.BTW, I was truly shocked how cheap the luggage she used. This woman never heard of Louis Vuitton? or a number of other elegant luggage makers?
I don't think the house was sterile per se. It just looked like the usual very large mansions that used to be built. Marble, chandeliers, etc. are all factors that were and are standard in classic mansions. What was left that was furnished in the house seemed tacky, and the wallpaper as well. Also, Candy’s taste in art is really tacky and it looks like she bought her art from China town. However, a house like that isn't going to have that shitty modern decor or minimalism because that type of house doesn't call for that kind of decor. I remember one of America's top young interior designers said that the bones of the house is like a road map on the way the house should be decorated. She said you can’t put modern in an elegant home and you can’t put antiques in a modern home. Not too far from where I live, there is this gorgeous Queen Anne Victorian style home that was built around 1908 and its a landmark. The house was eventually sold to these 20 something dip shits who decorated the house that looked like they got the Antonio treatment. They ruin this stunning historic estate. People were angry and told the young couple off that they should have bought a cement loft somewhere rather than messing with an historic mansion. I bet that this girl who bought the “manor” will put her tacky stamp on the “Manor” to the point that it’s going to make Candy’s décor look like Versailles. Let me guess, this young scatter brain will have the predictable modern look, like the guy from Color Splash or the guy from Antonio treatment came and put their special genius mark on the mansion. Again, 20something scatterbrain rich girl= minimalism and 2001 Space Odyssey shit.
Also, about Candy’s gift raping, giving and raping that many presents isn't unusual for the type of world the Spellings were working and living in. I remember reading Candice Bergen’s autobiography and she said her family received an enormous amount of presents from many, many, people that worked in the entertainment business. Also, Walt Disney used to give her amazing one of kind gifts.
Another thing, Candy buying that many nutcrackers doesn't seem outrages to me because Uh? hello! the size of the house is said to be larger than the White House! Do the math! In contrast, the beanie baby collection is beyond tacky and the pinnacle of ridiculous.
The leather bound scripts being donated to the University of Boston is not ridiculous in the least because they probably have a performing arts department that would be thrilled to have those scripts. Also, those scripts have historical significance of American pop culture.
I used to work in antique store, and there are a lot of people on here who don't have a clue nor understand about antiques and collectables because our society is saturated with plastic made in China shit. The person who said that her dolls are creepy, what medication are you on? Madame Alexander dolls are very, very collectable and there are collectors out there who will pay a lot for those dolls. BTW, get over it! They are just dolls and there isn't anything creepy about them. Doll collecting is what her passion was, so? It’s her money. So sorry that you are disappointed she isn’t collection 1960’s and 70’s pop art along with plastic furniture.
Also, she had a collection of automatons. Automatons are extremely valuable and only connoisseur collect automatons. In Monte Carlo they have an extraordinary museum of automatons that is extremely priceless! The older they are the more valuable
- R98, first you take a deep breath. Then you mix a cosmo, pick the caftan out of your ass crack, and sit down and light a Benson and Hedges 100. You'll feel better about definding such a vulgar and ostentatous display of wealth as soon as the booze and nicotine hit you and your asshole relaxes.
- R97, for them to have built a house that large they he had to be worth 1 billion dollars. You figure the up keep, staff, utilities, furnishings collecting, etc.
Also, mega wealthy people used to have their whole families with them including their grand children. Remember, these mansions are so big that its possible to live in one part of the mansion and you won't see others living there.
Is Candy Jewish like Aron was?
- Candy is not Jewish. If she had been, she likely wouldn't have collected beanie babies.
- Apparently Candy Spelling raped gifts, according to R98.
Who would have thought that Candy was a rapist?! And a serial one, at that.
- R97, the HGTV show made it clear that everything about the building and design and interior of the house were decisions strictly developed and made by Candy.
Candy said every time she asked Aaron about anything regarding the design of and building of the house, and filling the interior, Aaron said just do what you want and that he didn't care and whatever she did with the design of the house and filling the interior would be fine with him.
Aaron was not interested. Candy said he left the entire project up to her.
- Run along back to ivillage frau @ R74. You've been told several times that those kids are fug because they look weasely. That is a perfect way to describe their fugliness. Weasely denotes small, beady, eyes that are too close together. They look in-bred, like their dad. They are not cute and certainly not the "cutest kids ever." These two need to stop breeding. Should have stopped at the first one.
- Marry me R99
Laughing so hard I have tears running down my face ....
- Wonder if Candy gave Tori anything to sell in her store. Doubt it, obviously she doesn't give much up.
- I've driven past the Spelling mansion before when I was in LA, and the strange thing is that it doesn't look that big in person. I mean, it's big, but it looks nowhere near as big as it looks on TV and in pictures. Another thing I remember being surprised about is that one side of the house is really close to the street. There really isn't that much land.
- Poor r98. All up in arms defending the vulgar, vacuous Candy Spelling out there raping gifts.
There was lots of interior video of that place a year or two ago when Barbara Walters did an interview with Candy. This was before anything might possibly have been "removed for auction/storage" or whatever r98 is babbling about. The place looked like it had doll furniture just stuck here and there in little groupings. All that tacky "Marriott Inn circa 1985" furniture was DWARFED by the size of the massive rooms. It looked like good old Candy and her decorator (s) just took small areas and decorated them while putting blinders on to the size of the space all around them, including the height of the rooms. All that overwhelming EMPTY WHITE WALL SPACE everywhere. Cold, sterile, UNdecorated. And all of it tacky, tacky, tacky.
- Poor delusional R99 and 108. You two queens who live in one of those roach motels you call apartments in New York! How long have you two been in denial? When are you two ever going to get over the fact that living in sardine cans is nothing to brag about? r99, your schizophrenia is acting up again because those are the very things that you do remember? You have omitted your mental disorder on DL before. Many people have told you before to get some help because you're completely sick. Don't be embarrassed just go to your therapist immediately.
- Ah, and Candy Spelling chimes in at post 109!
- According to HGTV website, the show will be repeated on Jan. 2.
- I remember reading once that when Candy was micromanaging the architect (yes, that monstrosity actually had one), she decided the rooms were too small so they just enlarged the rooms like you would on a copier. "Make everything 150%" and they did. That's why everything is so out of scale to the human form and nothing fits inside of it.
- She admitted that much in a previously posted clip, r112
- R109 is the same unhinged Candy defender at r98.
- For those who are wondering why Tori is looking bad now:
She had 2 nose jobs. 1st one- late teens- this nose suited her more, balanced out her face and eyes. 2nd one (late 20's/early 30's?)- made her nose too small, which made her eyes and lips look all the more larger.
- I don't understand these people who live in incredibly expensive houses and then don't hire a decorator. You see the same thing if you look at 10 million dollar apartments in NYC.
Most of the time, these places aren't as attractive as an ordinary Radisson hotel room.
- r98, defending Candy is not becoming, as many have already posted, everything was out of scale, too small fireplaces, even the steps in the wannabe grand entrance are out of scale. Just goes to show bigger is not always better and just because you can doesn't mean you should.
And don't get me started on her warehouse of an attic, 17,000 square feet crammed full. The house was garish to say the best.
- Re who designed the house, Candy all by herself or Candy and Aaron together, I DVR'd it and just watched it again.
In the first 5 minutes of the program Candy states the following:
"I'm Candy Spelling. My husband Aaron and I designed and built one of the largest single family homes in America. He wanted a home that had everything...We were both were very involved in the beginning, then my husband said, 'This is not what I do.' His position was, "I need to work and pay for this. You design the house. I love everything you do. When I would ask him if he liked a certain fabric he would always say, 'whatever you decide. I always like what you pick out.' He did TV and I built the house.' "
"I oversaw every aspect of construction... I didn't understand how (architectural) plans worked and how to read drawings before I eventually (learned how). I made the house too big and (Aaron) told me 'you can't spend this much, we're not having a house this big. So we cut an entire wing."
Construction for the estate took 7 years. Per Candy's comments it sounds like Aaron was as involved as she was in the beginning of the process regarding the overall design and layout of the house. Then when it became apparent what a long-term production it was going to be, he passed over the reins to her, particularly in the decorating dept.
While I believe this house was definitely Candy's project, Candy makes it clear he was involved in the design and planning stages.
No way would he just sit back totally uninvolved and let Candy be the sole designer/manager at the inception point. I think he let her tweak things and decorate it, but that he was very much a part of the initial stages of planning this excessive monstrosity.
(I just re-read this and have no idea why I even spent the time 'researching' such an inane matter. Oh well... )
- Aaron Spelling was a far more fascinating character than Candy or Tori will ever be.
A Jewish boy, son of immigrants (Eastern Europe), raised in Texas. A sickly child. A cheerleader (!) in college at SMU. Years ago I had heard rumors that he was closeted and in a long-term relationship with Nolan Miller, the costume designer on DYNASTY and other shows. (Miller is still alive, but has lung cancer.) I've not heard anything else about that since Spelling's death.
I always thought there was a very gay sensibility at work in Spelling's projects, particularly DYNASTY, HOTEL, and CHARLIE'S ANGELS. And did you know he produced AND THE BAND PLAYS ON?
I could easily imagine Candy bearding for him as a professional Hollywood wife.
- Wow, jealous much you fat fraus?
- Dean looks like he could be related to Ryan O'Neil.
In defense of Candy, not everyone has a knack for decorating and design. If she was happy and comfortable in her home then LEAVE CANDY ALONE! Why should we care what she does or does not collect. Collecting is an odd thing. You like what you like. No one slams Liz for collecting jewelry.
- [quote]No one slams Liz for collecting jewelry.
There is a vast difference between beanie babies and diamonds, darling.
- Wow, seething much R120? Guess that anger mgt group ain't working out too well.
See R99 for more assistance.
- r121, r31 explains it better than anyone on this thread as to why we deride or have a sort of "detached" disdain and mockery of the very Candy Spelling with her self important braggadocio.
- [quote]I don't understand these people who live in incredibly expensive houses and then don't hire a decorator.
Wasn't the older guy at the end who cried and walked off her decorator? He must not be very good, I mean all those books were placed in bookcases and not stacked all over the house. Everyone knows you must have stacks and stacks of books to be consider chic. And all you bitching how big it is. Doesn't she get any credit for cutting off an entire wing during construction? It was going to be even bigger!
- Candy is a democrat too! a greedy hollywood limousine liberal
- I doubt Candy Spelling spends too much time on politics R126.
- Aaron was the one who put the kibosh on the the extra wing, R125.
I was surprised to read that Candy went to Beverly Hills High. I would have thought that she was the one who came from an impoverished background and when she made it big she lived, constructed, decorated, and spent big as a way of compensating for having little as a youngster. You'd think someone who lived in BH would have better taste based at least on a lifetime of exposure to higher quality and the finer things.
- I think when they broke ground to begin building the house, Aaron Spelling said that it would take 2 1/2 years to build.
I believe the HGTV special said it took SEVEN years.
I think you're giving Aaron too much credit for the design and scope. Cindy made it clear in the HGTV special that she drew up the design plans for the layout of the house along with an architect -
and that it was her mistake not being able to read and understand architectural layouts which ended up making the house so very OVER-SIZED somewhat by mistake.
- Whenever someone asks or says someone is Jewish on DL there are a couple people who chime in and say they are not. They do it to make the person asking look like a fool, it's not about presenting facts. Anyway, Candy's parents last names were Rosen and Marer. On Wikipedia it says both of Tori's parents are Jewish.
I'm skeptical Aaron was poor. Jews like to create these myths of poverty. I think what really happened was his father opened a business in a poor neighborhood and lived there to protect it and watch over it 24/7 like many new immigrants do. You see many immigrants open businesses in poor neighborhoods particularly black ones because they are an easy business opportunity because the people lack economic mobility which means they won't compete with your business and they already don't have businesses providing the services you offer.
- [quote]I doubt Candy Spelling spends too much time on politics
Does a Red White & Blue Beanie Baby count?
- [quote]and that it was her mistake not being able to read and understand architectural layouts which ended up making the house so very OVER-SIZED somewhat by mistake.
That right there says she had no business overseeing anything. I'm no architect either but I think I can get the gist of blue prints. I know a room is going to looks smaller on the drawing. Doh!!!
- The tasteful thing to have done here was keep all your real estating and showing off under wraps, limited to potential buyers. Judging from how much the Ultimate McMansion's price dropped, clearly the woman was desperate to sell it and resorted to publicizing "The Manor" to find some other garish individual willing to buy it (and she did).
I'm not saying she was desperate for the money - but a Disney Ride like that requires a lot of upkeep staff and monies, much more than a single old lady is probably willing to spend on an empty nest.
Just sayin' - that's all.
Candi's $25,000 monthly electric bill for keeping unseen rooms heated
- Pleeze bitch @ R130 "Jews like to create these myths of poverty." What do you know about Jews, specifically Eastern European Jews?
You are also "not presenting facts." OK, so you are skeptical - "skeptical Aaron was poor." Fair enough. I don't know - or really care - about the Spelling family story, but if it's true they came from eastern Europe, it's very likely they were poor.
Western European Jews, eg. German Jews, were integrated into German society and were middle class and some were rich. Quel suprise for them when Germany turned on its Jewish citizens.
Eastern European Jews were POOR. The countries they lived in were dirt poor. My family didn't have to "create a myth of poverty", they lived it. Both my father's family (from trans-Carpathian Ruthenia - now in Ukraine) and my mother's family (from Vilna in Lithuania) were POOR. They came to the U.S. to escape murder in pogroms (my father hid in a cave for 3 days to escape one at age 8), as homeless displaced persons after WW1, to escape a mandatory 25 year military service in the Czar's army for first-born Jewish sons, etc.
That being said, NOTHING excuses the tasteless and really very sad display of wealth at the Spelling "Manor." I couldn't watch the entire show.
- Wikipedia for Candy Spelling says that when Aaron died, his fortune was supposed to be split between Tori, Randy, and Candy.
Yet Randy and Tori got only $800,000 each.
But I also read somewhere that Aaron specified that only $800,000 to Randy and Tori each.
So I'm curious if it was Aaron or Candy who gave Tori so little, or if Aaron and Candy decided together before he died.
Did'nt the estrangement and not talking between Tori and Candy occur after Aaron died and when the allotments to Tori and Randy were so stingy?
Tori reconciled a bit with Candy a year or two ago. Perhaps Tori is thinking she might get a better inheritance when Candy dies?
Dean married Tori before Aaron died so Dean didn't know that Tori was getting only $800,000.
- Candy was a stewardess when she met Aaron - she did not come from wealth! I doubt she went to BHHS.
- Ok I'm wrong she was born in BH but I wonder if she was born in the less wealthy section of it?
- [quote]Dean married Tori before Aaron died so Dean didn't know that Tori was getting only $800,000.
I wonder what he thought of that. I believe that's when Tori made a statement about having to live with less money than before, and she and Dean were to open a B&B.
- I would imagine, R137.
FWIW, Beverly Hills has middle income neighborhoods. I rent an apt in one.
I drive by BH High School on my way to work and see the kids walking on campus. I have no idea what their income bracket is based on their appearance, but most of them frankly look very middle income. They're not "Gossip Girl" clones running around in designer duds.
That isn't to say there aren't wealthy students at the school, but Los Angeles has a lot of very tony private schools that most of the extremely wealthy kids attend. I do know based on a friend who used to substitute teach there that the BH High School has a wealthy Persian student population among its demographics.
Candy could very well have been a middle income kid attending BH high school. (Or who's to say even a lower income kid whose family rented an apt in the district. I have an upstairs neighbor who rents a 1 bdrm who has a kid in the BH elementary school.)
I live in BH a few blocks over from BH elementary school. It is an 'average Joe' neighborhood with some middle income rental units. The neighborhood streets are lined with Hondas/Toyotas/and other middle income cars.
Just like NYC has multiple income neighborhoods BH has upper/middle income neighborhoods.
I have lived in my BH neighborhood for over 12 yrs and am definitely middle income (not wealthy). My 4 neighbors in my building are insurance agents/school teachers/grad students/caterer.
None of us are remotely wealthy but my mailing address is "Beverly Hills, CA 90212". When I order things over the phone and have to verify my address, I sometimes get a very excited response along the lines of "Ooh, Beverly Hills." And I tell them, "no, it's not THAT part of Bev Hills. I live in the average joe section."
If you saw my run down apt bldg, you would totally get it.
- I thought Candy was a whore before she met AS
- I also heard call girl rumors about Candy, although I can't imagine anyone shelling out big bucks for that.
- R140, how dare you!
Mom is still a whore.
- I haven't seen the show yet. Did Candy reveal what the monthly bills are on that monstrosity? I've always wondered how much it costs per month to keep that place running. I'm sure it's more than most Americans make in a year.
- I would feel overwhelmed if I lived in a house that large.
Where do I go to shit?
- She didn't, R143. I would be interested as well to take a look at the Operations Budget books on that place.
- R138, oh that's right, Tori and Dean's first reality show was about their life running the bed & breakfast. I had forgotten that.
They've had THREE different reality shows so far. Their three reality shows must bring in pretty good money.
- Living alone in that monstrosity with just perhaps servants would be very creepy. I don't see how Candy could live there alone.
She is still exhibiting ridiculous excessive behavior. Wikipedia says her new condo at The Century in Los Angeles cost $47 million. I think she bought two full floors of the high rise.
No one needs a $47 million dollar condo. She is certified mentally unbalanced and repugnant.
- [quote]Where do I go to shit?
There's 27 shitters, take your pick.
- [quote]Candy put the place on the market for $150 million, but she only got a mere $85 million. A 22-year-old heiress bought it.
The Ecclestones are just as tacky and ostenacious as Spelling is. These two clownish whores make Paris Hilton look downright classy.
- Is anyone else reminded of Sunset Boulevard?
- Where did all the illiterate, indignant straight women come from?
- R101 - Candy is indeed Jewish. Maiden name
was Marer. A friend went to school with her and another pal's mother was friend's with
Candy's mother. Jewish. Jewish and cold as ice. Aaron was warm and cordial.
- To the poster who said 'Candy really knew how to pick a husband'.
I disagree. I would never want to be married to a husband who looks like Aaron Spelling no matter how much money he has.
And never to a husband who had that god awful revolting pipe sticking out of his mouth all the time, no matter how much money he had.
- I wonder what Candy's doing all day in that big-ass penthouse at the Century. I imagine most of her days at the Spelling mansion were taken up with overseeing all the various household stuff (i.e. barking orders and inspecting the work) so she was kind of busy in a sense, but at the Century the maintenance staff would take care of everything. Maybe she's collecting more dolls or something.
- Yeah the house is big but I don't hear anyone bitching about the two White elephants owned by The Real Housewives Of Beverly Hills who live across from each other. And Camille's compound isn't exactly Barbie's Malibu Beach house. Those are huge eyesores too.
- I bet their homes are a quarter the size of the Spelling mansion.
- R155 what the hell do you mean elephants! Their mansions are gorgeous.If they live in mansions that is their choice. Oh I forgot, if you live in a hole in the wall and spend enormous amount of money for rent to live in a shoe box that is the definition of growth in in your depressing existence in Old New Yorrrk!
- I did some googling and it looks like RHoBH Lisa Vanderpump's former house was 17,000 sq. ft and sold for around $29M. (Candy's 'attic' warehouse was that size.)
Lisa 'downsized' to a 8,000 sq ft Bev Hills house for a little over $10M, according to TMZ.
Adrienne Maloof's house is 19,000 sq. ft but I didn't see any appraisal value info.
- Can you imagine the cost of home insurance for The Manor? (Building + contents)
(Any insurance agents on the DL board wanna take a guess?)
The silver and wine collections alone must have been pretty pricey to insure. Not to mention the thousands of antiques and pieces of art.
(The Beanie Babies not so much... )
I would love to know the monthly amount it took to keep that place running/insured. You'd have to be a multi multi millionaire or billionaire just to keep the lights on at that place.
- I'm not sure Candy had many pieces of art.
I saw a few in the HGTV special, but not many.
I could be wrong though.
She did have a ton of silver pieces because she thought one had to have a zillion silver pieces to entertain the Reagans.
I find Candy so foolhardy in that she thought she was 'upper crust' because she entertained third rate TV actors and producers and the crummy Reagans.
- Yes, Candy and her gay decorator of 28 or 38 years traveled to Europe many times to find antiques for The Manor to 'keep the integrity of the house', as she stated it!
You're right about having a ton of antiques to insure.
Aaron Spelling never got on an airplane (too fearful) so when he and Candy traveled to Europe together, they took a train to the east coast, I think, and then boarded an ocean liner and sailed to Europe!
That must have taken eons!
And she said they took 52 pieces of luggage with them on their train and ocean voyages.
- The HGTV special Selling Spelling Manor will be repeated on:
January 02, 3:00 pm
Then an hour later, I think the 2nd part plays at:
January 02, 4:00 pm
- Taking a train from LA to NY and then an ocean liner to Europe would take about two weeks, give or take. An ocean liner would be fun, but I can't imagine spending a week on a fucking train!
- An ocean liner would definitely NOT be fun.
Nor would the awful train ride.
- I read an interview with Candy a few years back, and she said nothing in the house was closed off. Every room was operational 24/7 year-round.
Why? It was just her and you know if she had any live-in staff they certainly weren't living in the main parts of the house. As soon as Tori and the brother reached legal age they got out of there in a hurry and never went back. How wasteful to use all those resources when the house was mostly empty.
- I think Candy was under the delusion that she was really 'somebody' when in reality, she was and is 'nobody'.
That could account for the 24/7 keeping all rooms operational and not closed off.
- This is R98. The reaction to my post shows that people didn’t read it thoroughly or they reacted by emotion rather than factors that I have stated. I wasn’t defending Candy as a whole. Also, I too was horrified by her bland and badly done decor. I was shock because I thought I would see this elegant estate decorated in French and English antiques and housing original works of art like Moment, Degas, Rembrandt, etc. Instead, she had art work that liked like that was bought at those starving artists shows which the sell these crappy paints that come from a factory in China. How about that painting of the dogs playing poker? Isn’t that just classy?!
Also, beanie babies?!!! Like hell I thought that was great she collected those pieces of crap! I was horrified to see some one with the money like hers collecting beanie babies!
To a certain extent I was stunned that she went to many Costcos in LA to buy nutcrackers that are made in China. A woman with her money would usually buy nutcrackers that are made in Germany and are made out of the Black forest wood. However, I was thinking about it and I tired to giver her the benefit of the doubt. Since her mansion was so massive, in order to decorate it for Christmas, she must have needed a lot of nutcrackers. BTW, we have inexpensive nutcrackers that we bring out every Christmas and they truly look amazing. I can’t afford the ones made in Germany, but my inexpensive ones look fantastic.
Also, doll collecting is not weird and her dolls don’t look creepy to me. I used to work in this huge warehouse sized antique store and we would get a lot of collectors who collected dolls. Some dolls are extremely priceless especially the French and German Victorian dolls. Also, Madam Alexander is very collectable and some are valuable. When some people on this post were making an issue about Candy collecting dolls, I was a bit stunned that there are misinformed people about collecting or some on this thread just lack basic knowledge in this subject.
In addition. Candy collecting automatons is truly very common for many wealthy people to collect or own. Barbra Streisand owns some automatons. Also, Elizabeth Taylor owned one that was just auction off. They are extremely exquisite and highly valuable which could run into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Hell! I wish I had the money to just own at least one, but I haven’t won the lottery yet, LOL! Automatons were considered high technology for their day back in the 17& 1800’s. They were objects of status and amazement. They meant that a person was so wealthy that he or she had extra money to spend on cutting edge technology. Marie Antoinette had around 5 automatons, which depicted various people in her staff in the palace. For example, she had one that looked like her dressmaker and you wind it up and the automaton moved as if it was sewing. Marie Antoinette's automatons went up for auction around 10 years ago that sold for around 150,000 each.
Here is a link to one of the automatons Marie Antoinette owned.
- Here is another automaton that is just stunning!
- ...She was on "The Wendy Williams Show" to show how to wrap Christmas presents. She injured her wrist wrapping gifts beforehand and had it in a cast.
- could she have fibromyalgia?
...she had art work that looked like that was bought at those starving artists shows which the sell these crappy paints that come from a factory in China. How about that painting of the dogs playing poker?
- there. are. no. words.
on another note, I'm convinced that Candy bears a large amount of responsibility for her two children looking as they do as she is kind of reptilian looking.
- The gift fixation is curious. She had an executive gift business at one point. One Easter gift described to me was a giant Hershey's kiss in a basket of fake grass.
- [quote]Also, beanie babies?!!! Like hell I thought that was great she collected those pieces of crap! I was horrified to see some one with the money like hers collecting beanie babies!
What does money have to do with anything? Beanie Babies were a huge fad collected by millions. She got caught up in it too. She seems to be a very middle class woman with a big wallet.
- She's a vulgarian!
Renata, preferring earth tones
- R171 honey? do you think that Babe Paley, the Duchess of Windsor, Jackie Kennedy etc. would have collected Beanie Babies?
- Hey 167, where do I purchase a Moment?
- R174, that is obvious Monet smart ass dipshit!
- That gay decorator must have learned to put up and shut up very early with her. He learned what she wanted and her tastes, told her she was a design genius and just did it. He knew where the money was coming from and that it was a cash cow that could go on for years and years.
I have personally known the most important decorators in the USA over the last 20 years and they are all like this.
- But wouldn't putting together such a garish thing as the Spelling manion put a dent in a decorator's reputation?
- It isn't garish, it's boring and that's worse...
It's bland, bad style choices to our eyes today. Imagine what all those 'modern' rooms of today are going to look like in 10 years.
No, actually 50% of the reason a decorator is selected is his client list - how hot he or she is.
- Aaron Spelling was too busy "phoning home" to be bothered with decorating the Manor.
- If you go to Amazon, you can read an excerpt of Candy's book, Stories from Candy Land. On the back cover it says, "Oprah threw her into a panic with a discussion of hoarding."
If I recall on the HGTV special, at one point Candy talks about her husband working a lot and she would turn to shopping on some level. It sounded like the cliche scenario of the bored wealthy housewife with time and (an enormous amount of) money on her hands.
Based on the (few) opening pages of the excerpt that I read, Candy sounds like a shy, average kid who loved movie star magazines and had a crush on Rock Hudson.
- I find Candy inspirational.
I want to find a breadwinner like Aaron and devote myself to making his home a castle!
- R180, yes, Candy was painfully lonely and a shopaholic to try to fill the emptiness inside herself while married to Aaron. And to fill the time.
Her husband worked long hours and then in the evenings after supper he would retire to his study to re-write and finish scripts....
leaving Candy alone once again. Aaron had his very involving, all-encompassing work while Candy fell into constant shopping, constant purchasing, trying to fill herself up.
Excessive shopping and excessive spending are not good satisfying hobbies.
- [quote]honey? do you think that Babe Paley, the Duchess of Windsor, Jackie Kennedy etc. would have collected Beanie Babies?
No, but nothing they did kept them a from being unhappy either did they? And Candy didn't come from money.
- I'm sorry but Tori and Dean's kids are ugly as sin. I can't believe some moron was posting about how cute the kids are.
- R180, thanks for posting that. I didn't know Oprah did that. Oprah is such a hypocrite! look whose talking! I'm not backing Candy up, but in this case of Miss billionaire Oprah judging another person on hoarding or just spending a lot of money?! please! I have heard Oprah loves to shop and buys like there is no tomorrow. Oprah's mansion in Montecito is enormous FOR TWO PEOPLE and loaded with priceless art, furniture, antiques, etc. Also, Oprah has air conditioned dog houses. Also, Oprah has a mansion in Hawaii loaded with stuff, and numerous other places she owns all over the place. So its ok for miss queen of buying her audiences by giving them free things? Ok, Oprah gives 100 million dollars a year of her own money to charity which is great. However, this boosts her image into a celestial being in the eyes of millions of devoted frau fans that subscribe to her magazine and her TV station. she is the queen of manipulation and getting things her way. I believe Kitty Kelley's biography on Oprah.
- It's a HOVEL!
George Washington Vanderbilt - The Biltmore
- r161, r163 At one time traveling by train was a fabulous experience. The Pullman, Club, Dining, Observation cars were something to behold and not uncomfortable at all.
- I want to know how much it costs to heat and air condition 56,000 square feet. All for ONE person to be comfortable. That is what disgusts me most. I hope she just uses a window unit in the bedroom at night! Ugh.
- Turn on your TV's, kids! Part 1 is on right now on HGTV and Part 2 airs just after.
- This crazy woman doesn't have her children in her will but she collects beanie babies, dolls, automations..etc.. Someone please get her some medication.
Material possessions above all else
- White Trash with money.
- My god!!
A quarter of a million for a fucking doll collection?
Damn! Guess that bitch knew what she was doing by collecting them.
Some of them were kinda creepy looking, though.
- One person posted 36 times on this thread. Troll-dar r1 to see.
It was $750,000 for the Madame Alexander doll collection
- I find Candy's "woe is me" bullshit disgusting! Practically every widow/empty nester does the same... without billions as a "cushion"! Fuck her!
- Bless her heart. I hate to say it but I actually find her somewhat likable...she's not as detached from reality as I'd expect her to be.
I personally wouldn't be able to relax or sleep at night in a place that high up in Los Angeles....I'd be too afraid an earthquake would send me plummeting to my death at any moment.
- Yes, R196, my bad.
I also wonder how much that cherries painting was. Unless she was buying lots of other stuff, those cherries must not have been that much.
That view is great.....if you can see past all the smog of course.
- And you'd be an idiot, R198. We have stringent earthquake building codes here.
- I don't even think the cherries were for sale...it was just some cheap painting they had on the wall back in their break room lol
- R98, "oh, dear", comes to mind..."raping"? Interesting Freudian slip? (you meant, "wrapping", right?????)
- R198, I find her completely cut off from reality.
The massive, vulgar amount, size, and scope of her many possessions illustrates her mentally unbalanced state.
She spent a huge amount of time accumulating possessions during her marriage - buying massive amounts of possessions.
Her life is still quite concentrated upon possessions.
Her new condo is ridiculous in its size and scope.
- Haha R201. I thought the gallery owner was going to have a stroke when she said she wanted that cheap cherry painting out of all the beautiful antiques in his showroom. He probably just hung it in that hallway to get it out of the way-- to cover a stain, or perhaps a small wall safe. How embarrassing.
That little exchange spoke volumes about Candy Spelling. No class, no taste, no brain.....just a vacuous aging bimbo.
- How much do you think she's worth? I know she's not a billionaire, but she must be worth at least $500 million.
- My favorite: When she left the manor she had all of the bowling balls and bowling pins packed up and shipped out to storage.
- Out of touch with reality, concentrated totally on possessions... that's the mentality of a hoarder.
Maybe she's just a hoarder with enough room for her stuff.
- There's a part of me that would love to follow Ms Candy in a reality show and watch her blow through her millions on ostentatious 'stuff'.
She seems pretty harmless/nice, but also completely immersed in an economic fantasy land that 99.9% of the world can only dream of. (I'd love to see her try to live on $50K a year)
But to see a literal warehouse filled with stored things like beanie babies/Cabbage Patch dolls/multiple nutcracker dolls from Costco and cheap luggage boggles the mind.
I realize taste and style are subjective but it's painful to see someone with more money that 99.9% of the world will ever have access to, spend it on such excessive kitsch IMO.
That 'exclusive' 'by appointment only' furniture/decor store was hideous. YMMV. The in-house designer with the dog on his arm hawking the Aladdin's lamp was too funny. And leave it to Candy to hone in on the tacky cherry art piece that looked like a poster from Spencer's ca. 1980.
I also kept staring at her 'car key' earrings worn towards the end of the program. Priceless.
I'm glad she's got a good relationship with both of her children now. Something tells me they encouraged her to sell The Manor and are glad that she did.
- Spot on R208---everything you said. I'm glad she's patched things up with her kids too. At least she did something right---both kids seem like decent people.
- I don't think Tori really cares to have much to do with her mother nor does her brother, Randy.
- Candy Spelling is basically what every frau in America would be like if they had an endless fortune to spend.
Enough HSN shit to fill a warehouse plus a 50,000 sq. ft. home.
- Candy was one of the investors in the recent "Promises, Promises" Broadway revival.
As an opening night gift for the cast, she sent them a life sized solid chocolate leg to "break."
- [quote]Taking a train from LA to NY and then an ocean liner to Europe would take about two weeks, give or take. An ocean liner would be fun, but I can't imagine spending a week on a fucking train!
The train is fun too -- don't knock it til you've tried it!
- R205, she has to be worth at least 1 billion dollars to live that lifestyle. only a billionaire could afford to live in that mansion. There is no way a millionaire could possibly maintain the up keep and mange a mansion that size and magnitude.There are not as many people today as there once were years ago who could afford to live that way.
- I would say Candy is heavily dipping into the principle of her estate, which is ridiculous considering how much money Aaron left her.
- Candy's life revolves around things. That is a recipe for loneliness. I didn't dislike her after seeing the 2 shows but I did pity her.
- I remember reading in Vanity Fair that Candy was fucking a younger guy while Aaron was on his deathbed and flaunting it in his face.
Aaron must have had a thing for bug eyed women seeing his first wife was Carolyn Jones.
- Why does Candy walk like Walter Brennan?
Hip replacements? Artificial legs?
- I can just see OP now, standing around happy hour in some flyover dive, declaring things "horrendously hideous" and thinking it makes him sound VERY DISCERNING.
- Why does this come to mind?
- I think Candy is blown out of proportion on this thread. Yes, many of the flaws that are mentioned on this thread are true about Candy. However, she moved on and made a change in her life and grew. she might have realized, my kids are grown, my husband is dead, and what the hell am I doing living in this house by myself? If I lived in a mansion that size by myself it would scare the hell out of me because someone could break into the mansion in one part of the building while you may be occupying a room clear across the other side. You wouldn't hear a thing.
Also, she came from a poor background so the money must have been overwhelming to her because she never had it before. I have heard people who were once poor who become rich go nuts at the beginning ,but then it wares off after time because you get use to the money.
Over all I don't think Candy isn't that bad and after her interview about her changes in her life, etc. I think she is likeable and interesting.
- R219 And I can see you standing around referring to others as "flyovers" thinking you're hot shit.
- Interesting post from a TWOP thread on the show:
[italic]"Just an FYI - I collect M(adam) A(lexander) dolls and attended the auction. There were a lot of problems with those dolls-incorrect outfits, incomplete, some complete fakes ( the FAO "exclusives" that never existed). She's lucky she had internet bidders and uninformed collectors buy. She bought a lot of stuff indiscriminately at a notorious auction in Newport Beach in the 80's or 90's. She did have some rarities that were important or minty.[/italic]
I was fascinated by the two shows that aired on HGTV. I would love to see a reality show following Candy as she unloads that warehouse of beanie babies, etc.
And she was asked to donate any one of them to the MA museum but alas-the poor old rich lady couldn't part with any-unless they were paid for.
- Ooops, I didn't paste the quote above properly.
The "And she was asked..." part was also part of the TWOP quote
My comment about loving to see a reality show should have come last...
- Some pics of the house -
- I think Tori is prettier than ever now. She's wonderful. And I like the mansion the Spellings lived in. Too big, yes, but very beautiful.
- one of you on here need to stop hating. he has lived a life that most of all dream of. he has family feuds same as most of just, just at a lightly bigger level due to their status. The house was beautiful, so stop playing like you would be too good to live there. The post some people put on here are perfect example of haters in this world. No matter how bad you think she is, YOU ALL WATCHED THE SHOW, so it cannot be that bad.
- What a pathetic life, just full of "stuff" in hundreds of boxes. She could step outside of her material world and really do some good for others with her riches. The amount of money she spends on herself and her things is sickening.
- it's on now!
- Give the Spellings a break. Be honest, every one of us would feel immense pressure in keeping up an image of mega wealth but they were mega rich. So what? It was EARNED $. The whole family paid a price. Candy was a devoted wife to a work a holic. The children were never treated by the public fairly. Not their fault that their father was so driven and gifted. Tori and Randy turned out. Sorry to disappoint. Why be so nasty and downright vicious? Tori is very attractive,kind and important to her children,husband, brother and mother. Don't forget that she has many real friends. And loyal fans like me. Randy has a nice life also. Personally i loved watching the selling of Spelling Manor. Candy is personable and seems loveable to me. Obviously she has the right stuff or a highly intelligent man like the late great Aaron Spelling would not have married and stayed married to her. Sorry for the long post.
- What's wrong with you people! I agree that the house seemed dated, but if you have never visited Europe and seen European homes then you don't have a clue. Remember the house was modeled after a french chateau. Not my taste, but why are you so bitchy. As far as being a gold digger she seemed to really love her husband. She did mention she had married prince charming and touched on their life before Aaron was a huge producer. When people have that kind of money they lose touch with the reality of normal day to day struggles of everyday people. Another example of people losing touch is Oprah or Tom Cruise. They are both ego driven, living in over indulgent fantasy worlds, as are most people that rich. What do you expect when people put you on a pedestal and cater to you 24/7? I'm not saying it's right but I'm sure it's true what they say - money changes people.
- Can you imagine being worth 600-800 million dollars & running around buying happy meals to collect .49 Beanie Babies? Kinda sad that a 6 year old probably missed out on completing her set 'cause Candy swooped in!
And cleaning out every Costco in the city of Giant Nutcrackers?
She's a flaming nutbar!
- I meant to add it was nice for someone to give Ian Zuering some work, though...(kinda upraised he was the narrator)
- Candy is a total hoarder, but she has enough square footage to not have clutter. If she had more modest means, she would be like one of those hoarders on A&E with a house piled full of junk.
- Actually, R221, Candy did in no way grow up poor. And in person she is quite likeable and welcoming.
- I like horses so I'll always like Tori
- My favorite thing about the Candy Spelling show is that she's downsizing to a 16,000 square foot condo.
- It's my opinion that Candy has a hole in her soul and she tries to fill it with things. Was she jealous of Aaron's first wife, he didn't spend enough time with her, who knows.
I will give her this, she conned HGTV into paying for her move from her monstrosity of a house. Hey and we sure watched, I know I did.
- Wow you people are truly miserable people...who cares! You'll never live a life like that so don't judge what you don't know you shallow, judgmental people.
- R238, believe Aaron preferred men?
When all you have to live for is material possessions, you usually try to have a lot of them. Ego...ego....ego....
- Candy is a warm, gracious woman. Stop talking shit about someone you will probably never meet.
- Well, I'm reviving this thread because I got such a kick out of it when HGTV aired their special on Candy last December.
Looks like she has sued an auctioneer that sold part of her extensive doll collection, per a Yahoo article.
Oh how I wish HGTV would have a full time series on her. She is a hoot! (And I want to know what happens to all those beanie babies and automatons!)
I wonder if she has moved in to her new 'smaller' 17,000 ft condo yet.
- You guys should all be quiet and mind your own business, people make their own money in life so they can do what they want. Arnt we suppose to be free here? just cause its not your taste does NOT give you the right to judge. Quite frankly I think you guys are all haters cause you can't afford it. In conclusion you guys must have no life to come on here and talk about how much you despise her. Bye haters!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- what a strange bump of an ancient thread....
- r243 is Candy Spelling? If so, doll, you didn't make any money being a stewardess, your HUSBAND made the money. You were just living off of him and frankly, you have no taste.
- or tori?
or the son?
- Did anyone else catch Candy commenting on how she 'checks on the storeroom of HER stuff, 4-5 times daily, to make sure NObody is in there, that is not supposed to be?'
I would bet the odds she checks on it obsessively a lot more than that!
OHMY! Like who would be stupid enough to steal *any* of Candy's nasty stuff!
She has so many boxes of things, rows and rows of industrial size shelves FILLEd top to bottom. And she laments having to downsize.
GIVE ME A BREAK! Sick, controlling, fearful, small-minded with diametrically opposed budget, and taste? That went out with the cannibals, apparently.
I truly feel sorry for her. She has all the 'stuff' in the world, but cannot take it with her.
But can she close her eyes? Looking at her pop-eyed expression made mine hurt.
- A short reply to: "Candy is a warm, gracious woman. Stop talking shit about someone you will probably never meet."
Which begs the question, Why would anyone want to meet her?!
- R244, this thread was bumped tonight because HGTV showed reruns tonight of the Candy Spelling two-part show of her selling her humongous house and sorting/organizing everything in it.
- Who the fuck ever thought Tori Spelling was pretty? Bunch of sick fucks.
- Was Candy a whore? I heard that's how Aaron (and most of the other big producers in Ho-wood met their wives). She sounds like she guzzles a quart of scotch and two packs of menthol cigs a day.
I read Tori's book (yeah, I know) and Mama comes off as a real nut case. AFter her first boob job, Mama came into her recovery room and sicced the dogs on her! They went right for her chest.
- Candy also has the WORST taste. Her house looked like it was furnished with leftovers from a Hampton Inn.
- Did she ever do a show on her new condo as a follow up? I would love to see that. There was a part at the end of the last show where she gave a "mini" tour of it, but the place was gutted and she was talking about her plans for a complete reno (including an indoor pool). I'd love to see what she did with it. It's still way too huge and OTT for one person. I think it's 10,000 s.f.
- R252 for some reason there are more than a few really wealthy people with tacky, vulgar taste in furnishings and decorating. They want huge homes they don't need with gold painted trim and more than a few seem to go for that French rococo look or faux Italian villa style but can't pull it off because they are buying reproduction furniture and it looks tacky. Many times the furniture is too small for the scale of the house.
This is coming from a non-expert, of course, but everyone seems to admire my home when they come over. At least I know what size furniture I need in a room.
- Do you think guests go into Candy's home and sneer, point and laugh, R254? Of course the don't. They "seem to admire" her taste as well and then trash talk behind her back. Your friends do the same.
- That maybe R254 but I still know what size furniture should be in a room. Poor Candy does not. That furniture is woefully small for the spaces.
- Candy is most definitely a hoarder. Her personality traits fit the hoarder m.o. to a 't'.
- I don't think she is a sick woman. She had the money to do what she wanted to do. She is very excesive but hey, arn't most of the movie stars and singers that way.
- Glad to see so many people feel the same way I do. I'm just curious as to why she wouldn't want to share with her own children. There is way more than enough. How greedy can you be?
- People are just jealous. Candy Spelling had exquisite taste and a beautiful manor.
- Ms. Tori and Ms. Candy always have skid marks on sheets
- i agree with reply 241
- I thought she presented herself well on the series very elegant and pure class but down to earth in a mothering way!! obviously has a gift for design maybe you say she is vulgar because of her wealth? I say what a wonderful life she has lead! All families have issues!
Good for her for collecting what she liked she donated all the money to charity and Im sure she has raised more money than any of us could imagine!
She has had a blessed life and she appreciates it! i enjoyed watching the series!
- Couldn't Candy or Petra have bought Debbie Reynold's collection of movie memorabilia, and stored it safely somewhere in The Manor?