Lookalike she's got a juicy memoir coming out next week.
Owen?
by Anonymous | reply 1 | May 2, 2024 11:27 AM |
I expect that I won’t be the only one who clicks on the link and scrolls down just to see if she’s fat.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | May 2, 2024 11:42 AM |
I'm not sure I understand the relevance of this book. How many people under 70 know who Cass Elliott was? She was a very good singer and... that's it. And her daughter didn't really know her, as she died when Owen was 7, so what exactly does Owen being to the party that none of Cass's previous biographers did?
by Anonymous | reply 3 | May 2, 2024 12:25 PM |
Longer write-up from the BBC, who went with the ham sandwich angle.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | May 6, 2024 7:06 AM |
Owen is pretty cool and the book isn’t just about her relationship with her mom, she spoke to a lot of her mother’s friends and people she worked with. Owen was in an early version of Wilson Phillips before being dropped not long before they got their recording contact.
If Cass had lived, I wonder if she would’ve musically gravitated towards disco music. She certainly has the voice for it and Alan Carr was managing her.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | May 6, 2024 7:17 AM |
[quote] "...and Alan Carr was managing her."
Considering this specifically, I think everything turned out for the best.
Jokes aside, I would've loved a Cass disco album.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | May 6, 2024 7:47 AM |
[quote]How many people under 70 know who Cass Elliott was?
r3 I'm not 120 years old and I even know who's Marlene Dietrich. Uh, some of us know about things which happened over 20 years ago. Ignorance.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | May 6, 2024 8:20 AM |
The kids love Cass. There's clips all over Tiktok. R3 has some fucking old man victim narrative they're trying to keep in place.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | May 6, 2024 8:23 AM |
Apparently it was Allan Carr who gave the okay for a cover-up, fearing the scandal of perhaps a drug-related death. Then someone came-up with the ham sandwich story.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | May 6, 2024 2:55 PM |
[quote]There's clips all over Tiktok
Oh, dear.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | May 6, 2024 2:58 PM |
If there was a Ethel Merman disco album, there definitely would've been a Cass Elliot disco album R6.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | May 6, 2024 6:42 PM |
NOTHIBG but. Money grab there’s no interesting info.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | May 6, 2024 6:48 PM |
Cass always has these comebacks where her songs are played on some show or commercial and they go viral. When Lost was on, they hauntingly played her Make Your Own Kind of Music and it became a hit again. Similarly, Dream a Little Dream will always resurface.
Had she lived, she would have likely have transitioned totally into a very popular television performer. At that stage in her career, she was better known for comedy than music because of her really funny and totally likable performances on things like Carol Burnett and the Tonight Show.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | May 6, 2024 7:25 PM |
I think she played a witch in the Pufnstuff movie.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | May 6, 2024 8:03 PM |
People may have opened up to her more since she is her daughter. Also maybe some people talked to her that didn't talk to the other biographers.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | May 6, 2024 8:16 PM |
[quote] I think she played a witch in the Pufnstuff movie.
She did! And she sang this song that I unironically love:
by Anonymous | reply 16 | May 6, 2024 9:14 PM |
[quote]She put another name, that of her first husband, Jim Hendricks, on the birth certificate. Says Owen, “I always understood it was a platonic marriage and that it had been purely to keep him out of the draft.”
Wonder if Jim Hendricks was gay. Anyway, I'm an admirer of Cass as a performer and singer, but I think it's kind of cruddy to keep your own kid in the dark about who her father is.
From other accounts I've read, Cass seems to have been very needy in some ways. One contemporary of hers said that her house, in Laurel Canyon if I recall, was always full of young men whose attention and validation she seemed to desperately crave. The implication was that they were in some way kept boys.
Perhaps Cass belongs on the "Patron Saints of DL" thread.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | May 6, 2024 9:25 PM |
Owen doesn’t have any friends.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | May 6, 2024 9:32 PM |
I didn't know of Cass Elliot until the early Seventies, after the Mamas and the Papas had broken up and she was mostly a solo act. She appeared often on variety shows like The Carol Burnett Show and Sonny & Cher, and the writers didn't know what to make of her so they always had her do elbaorate fat jokes, which apparently she absolutely hated doing. I remember she guest-starred on an episode of Scooby-Doo playing herself, and her character had bought an entire ice cream factory, presumably so she could eat all the ice cream it made. But of course it was haunted by three "ghosts" (chocolate, vanilla, and strawberry...)
by Anonymous | reply 19 | May 6, 2024 9:33 PM |
[quote] Lookalike she's got a juicy memoir coming out next week.
I see what you did there, OP.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | May 6, 2024 9:40 PM |
So who is the father of this orphan?
by Anonymous | reply 21 | May 6, 2024 10:01 PM |
I've always said Cass would be a great subject for a "jukebox musical" on Broadway - and who better than Chrissy Metz to play her (seriously) ? Maybe some producers or investors will think of this once the book comes out.
TRIVIA - Mama Cass auditioned for the role of 'Miss Marmelstein' for the Broadway musical 'I Can Get It For You Wholesale'. It was said she always wanted to be a Broadway actress, and this would have been her chance. The finalists were whittled down to two : Cass Elliott and Barbra Streisand.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | May 6, 2024 10:05 PM |
[quote] "If there was a Ethel Merman disco album, there definitely would've been a Cass Elliot disco album [R6]."
I see your point, R11. It's just a shame it didn't happen.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | May 7, 2024 1:02 AM |
[quote]Make Your Own Kind of Music
Most recently, Barbie.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | May 7, 2024 1:24 AM |
[quote]Mama Cass auditioned for the role of 'Miss Marmelstein' for the Broadway musical 'I Can Get It For You Wholesale'.
The "Miss Marmelstein" office chair would've needed to be a forklift.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | May 7, 2024 1:27 AM |
Chuck Barris produced her TV variety pilot. He said in his autobiography (not the one where he claimed to be a CIA operative) that he thought he was in love with her. He said would say things like he didn't like her because she's fat but she learned how to give great head. She died before they ever got together but it struck a very interesting chord in the book
by Anonymous | reply 26 | May 7, 2024 1:31 AM |
Although she was a bit before my time, I’ve always really loved Mama Cass. The article mentions how Michelle Phillips revealed to Owen who Owen’s father is. I’m anxious to see how Michelle Phillips is portrayed. I can’t wait for this book.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | May 7, 2024 2:11 AM |
Chuck Barris was hot.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | May 7, 2024 2:39 AM |
wow, I didn't even know she had a kid. I was a teen when the mamas and papas were popular. I even saw them at the Monterey pop festival.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | May 7, 2024 3:08 AM |
Merman was over 30 years older than Cass, I don’t cass would’ve been seen as being old and out of touch the way Memans disco album was since she would’ve been in her 30s. Perhaps in the vein of Esther Phillips brilliant disco cover of What a diff’rence a day makes.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | May 7, 2024 3:26 AM |
So who is Owen's dad- Allan Carr? Maybe Mama mistakenly put on one of his caftans and sat in the 'wet spot'?
by Anonymous | reply 31 | May 7, 2024 3:54 AM |
Wasn't it denny Dougherty?
by Anonymous | reply 32 | May 7, 2024 4:25 AM |
No. Denny wasn't into her and hated himself for it.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | May 7, 2024 4:31 AM |
A musician named Chuck Day is Owen’s biological father.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | May 7, 2024 2:32 PM |
R29, it’s so cool that you attended. I bet that was a great show — it’s always lauded.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | May 8, 2024 1:54 PM |
I’ve listened to about a third of the book. I am enjoying it quite a bit.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | May 8, 2024 1:56 PM |
[quote]From other accounts I've read, Cass seems to have been very needy in some ways.
Yeah, for heroin
by Anonymous | reply 37 | May 8, 2024 2:04 PM |
I wonder if Owen touches on Cass's friendships with the Manson family? Michael Caine recalled meeting Charlie and others at Cass's house, which basically was the go-to house in the canyon where lots of music heavies converged.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | May 8, 2024 2:43 PM |