The Times of our Gays: Z-lister snags engineer on Grindr and ties the knot in high fashion, marijuana-themed wedding

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Yikes

🙄🙄🙄🙄

FINALLY, a gay wedding that I want to be at.

Tacky.

Fucking hell, they tick all the boxes, don't they?

Ugly

Screaming ninnies inspired by RuPaul's Drag Race

Infatuated by Real Housewives of Whereverthefuck

Brand name fetishists

Costume changes

Weed-smoking motif

Reference to Olsen Twins

Cloying pet names (or rather one shared pet name)

Picnic hamper proposal in the Hamptons

At least one sees himself as some sort of planet in the universe of a tiresome NYC club scene

Name droppers

Immense self-absorption

Horrific taste

Reading R6's post sucked all the life out of me.

They've made me feel badly for not having a lexicon

Yes. Exactly, R8. What have I been doing wrong? All these years and still no lexicon to call my own? Is anything sadder than that?

Two more available men off the market. Sigh.

This is so so..... something, I don't know what to make of it, I feel like I should be embarrassed for them, for the lack of taste.

My goodness but they appear to be emotionally arrested.

My god you all can be so bitter and nasty, tearing down younger gay men. It’s NICE that these two found each other, despite their differences (an engineer and a pop culture satirist?) It is NICE that the lovely and classy Mandy Moore showed up and performed for free. Everyone appears to have had a lot of fun. The theme is not one I would choose, but is fitting and light hearted given his background. This is a wedding I would love to have attended, most are dreadful. I wish them every happiness going forward.

I'm firmly with R13. I think they are a lovely couple, and it looked like a great, fun wedding. Its a nice heartwarming story (maybe with limited appeal for basement dwelling shutins)

Funnily enough as soon as I saw the lead pic I knew which one was the engineer, as one myself I got an intuition for these sort of things. Pity my gaydar's such a piece of shit but thems the breaks

Katz has a Groban smile.

Which dog-chasing gay lawyer from the other thread made the guest list? ONE of them had to be there.

Motel Kamzoil marries Billy Idol.

Agree with r13 et. al.. They're not toxic and are having the imperfect real-time of their lives, which never compares to the picture-perfect nostalgia we older queens may be holding onto a little too tightly. Katz works damned hard under all this veneer, and has developed the trust and admiration of many.

Oh no not the sacred wedding. They are fucking lame and boring. This sounds like a fun party at least.

I found the wedding planners, their video was a rehearsal for the reception. The reception was my kind of reception!

NOKD

Every wedding reception should feature bowls of joints.

When Katz's family returned home they found his mother with her head in the oven.

Nice of Loewe to gift them all that.

The Google engineer seems sweet.

The other one….

Good luck to them!

Why aren't the good looking gays getting married? Why is it always the ugmos?

Oh please. What can you do besides mock this? Mocking it doesn’t mean I wish then to be anything but happy, and they are certainly free to fashion their “special day” as they see fit. If they insist on having their wedding written up in the New York Times, we aren’t going to pretend it isn’t all a silly cliche. They’re celebrating how special they are by conforming to every imaginable cliche.

There's a difference between mocking people and shitting on people. I'm not sure you have that level of discernment, r26.

R27. Please list the passages in my post where I’m “shitting” on them. I’m not sure you have that level of literacy.

Aw. I knew Evan from a long time ago and he's a great, hard working guy who's carved a career out of the pop culture he loves. Not an easy thing to do. These couplings of opposite types with similar tastes make for the longest relationships, I've found. I, too, would've had fun at this event. Mazel Tov to them.

"They’re celebrating how special they are by conforming to every imaginable cliche." = Shitting

"Oh look, another riff on Mrs. Madrigal. Groundbreaking!"= Mocking

I find gays to be very unsupportive of other gays. I think it makes us feel inadequate when we see other gays happy and doing well. I've had friends try new businesses and projects aimed mostly at gays and they're never supportive. Numerous times ive seen the family's of gays comment positively on other gays, only for their gay family member to bitch. It has to be something in us that makes us feel that we are meant to be achieving these things but feel we are failing.

It's called envy, R31. Many of the shitters lead unhappy lives and only feel better about themselves when they mock. That way, they can be assured of positive responses from other posters who lead miserable lives themselves. That is the only affirmation they will receive all day. I expect a wave of posts ridiculing mine, but they will be from those same people.

There's a lot of people here who watched many of their friends die as part of their young gay experience, and l/or experienced other consequences of being gay in a less progressive world. Seeing today's young gay people being happy can be extremely difficult for them, and causes a full spectrum of acting out.

Spot on R33. I was just about to post something similar but you've said it much better than I could.

It's possible to be happy for people and still mock their pretensions, just as we would hetero couples. Most NY Times wedding articles are overwhelmingly eye rolling.

Congratulations, boys, you're both proof that the gays can be just as trashy & clueless as the straights.

R13 Thanks for letting know what a disgusting straight cunt you are, you should die a thousand times, we do not need your finger wagging, go fucking eat some dog shit. It smells better than your oily cunt. I will bury the straight CUNTS on DL.

The Engineer looks so normal. Although not handsome, he's pleasant looking with an obvious IQ. How the hell did he end up with this toll like person?

R30. As I thought, your comment stemmed from a literacy problem on your part. One of the items you listed was not in my post. I specifically asked to list items in my post. You see, people should not be held accountable for what others say. I have no control of what others say.

I certainly don’t resent their happiness. (Of course, trumpeting your happiness in the New York Times doesn’t guarantee you are actually happy).

I admire the contributions of many, many gay people and the way that they live their lives. I just find their wedding, like almost weddings and especially weddings that deviate from tradition, funny to mock in its cliches. Wedding ceremonies are silly and egotistical

R39: but here you are.

????!

Thread..now…limping..dead, soon….

The engineer: What would happen if Truman Capote & Perry Smith had a baby, in prison.

[quote]One is from the day in late 2018 that they made their relationship official — at dinner, after seeing “A Star is Born.”

I am...Mrs. BILLY JACCOBSON!

I saw ERK do the Q&A at a screening for some movie (I can't even remember what it was now) last fall during awards season in NYC and he did an awful job -- just rambling and spaced out. I guess he was stoned. I find his social media posts really bland but I guess that's what makes them go viral. He just posts images from things and they get reshared and that snowballed into a thing people could participate in without a lot of effort. How he managed to make that a career I have no idea but if the grift works great for him!

I do not like lives or their weddings styled via a brand book.

Here's the deal, anyone can get a write up in the NYT these days. It's not special or reserved for only certain people any longer, which takes the fun out of it. Plus weddings are look at me circuses now. No grace, no style.

They both look like created by Bots Of New York. There's indeed a lid for every pot. Good luck, I guess!

Classy!

I wish you every happiness.

[quote] the family's of gays

Oh, dear, R31. Were you out sick the day your class was taught how and how not to use apostrophes? The word you're searching for is "families."

Family’s

He may find that word, r52, but you'll never find that stick up your ass.

R54, knowledge of basic grammar and punctuation doesn't make one a tightass--just educated. Sorry that's too hard for you to grasp.

If you were more intelligent, you would get that education and grace are distinct.

[quote] you would get

Oh, would I "get" that, R56? Thanks for proving my point about general stupidity.

I rest my case.

I'm sure you think so, R58.

WEED at a WEDDING is WONDERFUL.

WEED anywhere is wonderful.

As a wise DATALOUNGER once said, "just smoke copious amounts of pot..."

[quote]There's a lot of people here who watched many of their friends die as part of their young gay experience, and l/or experienced other consequences of being gay in a less progressive world. Seeing today's young gay people being happy can be extremely difficult for them, and causes a full spectrum of acting out.

Spare me the armchair psychology, armoured, no less, in a shroud of pity. I'm of that generation and don't find a significant number of them the walking wounded, let alone the walking bitter.

I have friends younger than the couple in question. And from before I was their age, I had friends much older than I am now. Being around people of different background and age and perspective is hardly embittering, nor does it make me pine for things lost, neither friends nor my own youth.

Whether 61 or 16, I expect/ed more of people than a SpongeBob style vomiting up of cheesy pop culture references and giggling about Real Housewives edition 131 and a weed hotbox tent as if it were the last word in wildly wicked and fun, fun, fun!!! They're >30, not forever 15 like Beavis & Butt-head, they couldn't have found something, anything to make a fun and meaningful relaxed day for themselves and friends other than endless references to geese, weed, grifting wedding freebies, and a Drag Race to the bottom theme of the substance of everything is without substance, just a smirk and a snigger of recognition.

If the newlyweds are happy, I'm delighted for them, but the presentation of their wedding by the Times doesn't strike me as fun so much as that classic Times' taste for painting the horror of the subjects of their wedding profiles. If the Times can have a laugh and a smirk at these two between their gushing lines if text, why can't others?

R37 if you’re working with your therapist on your anger issues (and I do hope that you are) you might want to ask them for a new insult - “CUNT” is beyond tired, even for a cretin such as yourself.

[quote]“I’m a vibrational person,” said Mr. Katz, who had never had a boyfriend until Mr. Jacobson.

This will end in tears.

[quote]WEED at a WEDDING is WONDERFUL.

But then, everyone will eat more and it will be much more expensive......unless, it's a lesbian wedding, then you can have a potluck.

[quote]everyone will eat more and it will be much more expensive

Didn't you see all those free candy bars?

I used to think being an "influencer" was stupid but I can see the appeal of free stuff.

Why are males so obsessed with weed? I never see women so obsessed with marijuana. There are a few female potheads but men far outnumber them. Why?

Nobody and I mean NOBODY is gonna take away my GOD given DL supporting CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to mock and put down gays who appear to be in loving happy relationships or doing well financially. You're the same people who want to take away my guns.

R66, it makes me horny as hell and the sex is usually pretty good. Maybe other guys have other reasons.

What does that mean? A "vibrational person?"

What an adorable anecdote for the NYTimes - drug dealing while a student at NYU!

[quote]What an adorable anecdote for the NYTimes - drug dealing while a student at NYU!

How does that differ from any other NYU student?

If you put yourself in the NY Times wedding section then you are openly inviting criticism from the rest of the world. Especially if, like they do, you name-drop about things the (multiple) wedding outfits, those silly brooches, and the fucking candles. 🙄 These guys are obviously impressed with all those things, so they have to expect the eye rolls when the rest of us aren’t and find it exceptionally pretentious. 🤷‍♂️

They probably needed a cash SNACK bar to deal with everyone's munchies.

So, do you pay to get that wedding coverage or what? I don't pay attention to the wedding stuff in the NYT.

As for the wedding, it's so not for me. And they seem exhausting and boring at the same time. Pot as a personality trait is ZZZ.

[quote]What does that mean? A "vibrational person?"

He vibrates when he's happy.