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Why we'll never hear another voice like Judy Garland's

This is a long-ish but fascinating discussion about the use of pitch correction.

Even if you're not an expert in music theory, it's explained in sufficient detail to make sense to the average person.

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by Anonymousreply 13April 28, 2024 11:34 PM

Judy was one of the most talented singers ever. She also had a lot of pain and struggle throughout her life. Despite that, she had a good heart, which is hard to encounter in Hollywood. At a time when gay people were oppressed beyond belief, they identified with her struggles and she theirs.

by Anonymousreply 1April 24, 2024 2:57 AM

It would be interesting to hear Judy’s OTR pitch corrected.

by Anonymousreply 2April 24, 2024 3:23 AM

Very interesting video,thanks ,another Judy fan.

by Anonymousreply 3April 24, 2024 3:52 AM

Judy's and Billie Holliday's voices were special because you could hear the pain in them. In Judy's case, also a great deal of warmth, which sat particularly poignantly beside the pain.

With the possible exceptions of Whitney Houston and Amy Winehouse, you don't get that complexity of timbre any more, with or without pitch correction. The worst thing that ever happened to Taylor Swift was evidently that her ex-boyfriend looked better in her scarf than she did, and the worst thing that ever happened to Beyonce was Taylor Swift.

by Anonymousreply 4April 24, 2024 6:05 AM

Pitch correction is not the issue. The issue is that pop singers are not trained correctly and don’t have techniques. The art of singing has been lost for pop singers, and most musical theater singers.

by Anonymousreply 5April 24, 2024 12:33 PM

She was alright, I guess ...

by Anonymousreply 6April 24, 2024 12:36 PM

I was molested.

by Anonymousreply 7April 24, 2024 12:46 PM

Voish.

by Anonymousreply 8April 24, 2024 12:47 PM

ha! ha! ha! I'll say

by Anonymousreply 9April 24, 2024 12:56 PM

R5 is right. There's lots of singers that still hit the notes. Luis Miguel and Mark Anthony for instance. In Latino culture the old operatic sense prevails so people become fine tuned, literally. American music is mechanical and pedestrian.

by Anonymousreply 10April 24, 2024 1:09 PM

I'd put (Little) Esther Phillips on the list of memorable 20th Century female voices. She's like a rawer Dinah Washington

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by Anonymousreply 11April 24, 2024 1:12 PM

Very interesting, OP! Thanks for posting.

You learn something new every day -- if you're paying attention.

by Anonymousreply 12April 24, 2024 1:22 PM

Here's another interesting comparison.

In this one, he notes how Karen Carpenter's pitch is so good, it almost sounds like she's lip synching a live performance until you look closely at the wave forms. The consistency of her voice is amazing.

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by Anonymousreply 13April 28, 2024 11:34 PM
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