Does he tell his pharmacist this when he's picking up his Truvada prescription?
Noted scientist Aaron Rodgers says the government created HIV in the 80s!
by Anonymous | reply 230 | April 25, 2024 10:57 AM |
“I CAN DO MY OWN RESEARCH.”
Suck it, PhDs!
by Anonymous | reply 1 | April 16, 2024 8:52 PM |
So, um, how dow did people have it in the 70's, Aaron?
by Anonymous | reply 2 | April 16, 2024 8:52 PM |
Aaron and Kanye should just fuck and get it over with. Kanye said the same thing in that duet with Adam Levine.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | April 16, 2024 8:52 PM |
I can’t help but wonder if Scarf Lady was the mastermind behind the project and various psy-ops like the fake mystery illnesses in the 70s that were NOT AIDs.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | April 16, 2024 8:57 PM |
Rogers researched this with noted truth-teller, Doctor Professor Grand Poobah Louis Farrakhan. You folks just can't handle the truth!
by Anonymous | reply 5 | April 16, 2024 8:58 PM |
I think he has brain damage from too much football. His empty desk from the football scholarship at UC Berkeley says plenty enough; that he's about as dim as they get.
This man is no authority on anything. He needs to just retire and run into the sunset like all the dim celebrities that follow his path.
AZT was a failure - it's widely documented. A complete travesty, but people and the LGB community were so desperate for help from the medical community re: AIDS, it was the only idea they had with the current technology available.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | April 17, 2024 2:43 AM |
Fuck that fag.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | April 17, 2024 2:56 AM |
I find it interesting that this is the hill he wants to die on.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | April 17, 2024 3:03 AM |
Do you remember the very long exposition scene in “JFK” where Donald Sutherland explains the conspiracy?
Try watching it on 2x speed.
This is the closest approximation I can make to demonstrate how a high-functioning autistic brain works (Oliver Stone is certainly ASD, and I believe Rodgers is.) Autistic brains constantly look for patterns and associations. Relentlessly, analytically processing and making associations.
Sometimes, something goes terribly wrong. I look at Rodgers and I don’t see someone who knows what they are saying is untrue. I see someone who has become very lost and doesn’t know the nature of reality anymore.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | April 17, 2024 3:48 AM |
Sure, let's make excuses for him.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | April 17, 2024 3:57 AM |
He’s gunning to be RFK’s Jr’s Surgeon General
by Anonymous | reply 11 | April 17, 2024 3:57 AM |
I don’t think I’m making excuses for him and I certainly think he deserves to be criticized for spreading his unfounded beliefs. But I do understand how they are being created.
Stanley Kubrick, certainly autistic and widely admired as a genius filmmaker, was incredibly conspiratorial. One of the parallel narratives of The Shining is about the evil of the Federal Reserve!
by Anonymous | reply 12 | April 17, 2024 4:08 AM |
It's hard to engage with people who are that willfully ignorant.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | April 17, 2024 4:19 AM |
R13, you're the ignorant one! I'm a very smart man who does my own research! You'd be smarter if you got all your facts from Twitter and YouTube like me!
by Anonymous | reply 14 | April 17, 2024 4:24 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 15 | April 17, 2024 4:39 AM |
Someone I know who is certainly not autistic who believes the same theories that Rodgers does. So do millions of Joe Rogan fans. If anything people on the spectrum I know do follow science and mock idiots.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | April 17, 2024 7:40 AM |
Isn't this an old conspiracy theory? The version I read involved the CIA creating it to get rid of "moral lessers" of society such as people of color and gay men.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | April 17, 2024 8:02 AM |
@r6, "I think he has brain damage from too much football"
This ^^ He, Brett Farve and some suspect even OJ may have/had CTE. I'm not sure all the money footballers make is worth it. Taylor Swift get your man out of the game
by Anonymous | reply 19 | April 17, 2024 8:30 AM |
I remember Joe Rogan savoring those HIV stories in the back room of Boston’s leather bar Ramrod in the 90’s!
by Anonymous | reply 20 | April 17, 2024 9:57 AM |
Does Aaron know Roy Suckaboo?
by Anonymous | reply 21 | April 17, 2024 10:15 AM |
There's no way an autistic person could become a successful NFL quarterback. Quarterbacking is about leadership-- getting a bunch of guys motivated, and making sure they follow your judgments on the field. As a college professor I've seen tons of D1 football players and most aren't this stupid. As a high school teacher, I've had tons of autistic students. There is 0% overlap. Carter is simply ignorant and an asshole. As an adult human, I've seen more people like that than I can count.
If making tenuous connections between various data points is autism, then no one is more guilty than the idiot autism accuser at r9. HE'S THE TRUE AUTIST.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | April 17, 2024 10:23 AM |
Just ignore the autism troll, who thinks every celebrity is autistic. I’m sure he’s done his own research on it.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | April 17, 2024 10:47 AM |
[quote] Someone I know who is certainly not autistic who believes the same theories that Rodgers does. So do millions of Joe Rogan fans. If anything people on the spectrum I know do follow science and mock idiots.
I agree with this. Most high functioning autists are extremely forensic and analytical and would not just believe something because they heard it. I probably have fifteen Wikipedia tabs open on my iPad right now.
But like I said, this is what would happen if something goes wrong. My opinion that he has autism wasn’t based on any of the words he said. I watched most of the video on mute. It was based on observing how he was saying them. He is INFODUMPING. This is how it looks high functioning autistic people infodump. They talk extremely rapidly, often gesticulating wildly, while their eyes focus on nothing in particular. They just talk and talk and talk, even if what they’re saying no longer makes any sense to the listener. That is what he is doing.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | April 17, 2024 1:21 PM |
[quote] There's no way an autistic person could become a successful NFL quarterback. Quarterbacking is about leadership
I hate him so I hate having to use him in examples but
Who is the world’s richest CEO?
by Anonymous | reply 25 | April 17, 2024 1:24 PM |
If you think the gubmint isn’t capable of this, then maybe you should schedule your 13th COVID booster and shut up.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | April 17, 2024 2:06 PM |
He’s retarded but this and the government flooding black neighborhoods with crack in the 80s are two conspiracies I kind of believe
by Anonymous | reply 27 | April 17, 2024 2:11 PM |
The CIA absolutely flooded crack in black neighborhoods
“AIDS was created by the government” absolutely infuriates me because that is a fundamentally white supremacist/white victimhood excuse; AIDS likely existed in most of the 20th century in Africa and spread through the urbanization forced by European colonialism; it spread rapidly among Africans (prostitution, which accompanied urbanism, was the main vector) and African were living and dying with it for decades but nobody thought it was out of the ordinary because they were poor black third world people. It spread to Haiti due to the exchange of educated technocrats with French West Africa during the Duvalier dictatorship; and from Haiti to the United States through the plasma industry and sexual tourism. Everything about AIDS is literally built upon the abuse and exploitation of people of color’s bodies. There is no greater metaphor for colonialism than AIDS.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | April 17, 2024 4:49 PM |
I respect Aaron's statements, but I can't positively concur with him until noted scientists and great thinkers Chuck Woolery and Kevin Sorbo have chimed in.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | April 17, 2024 5:13 PM |
He's crazy, but I totally still would.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | April 17, 2024 5:53 PM |
R28 is psychotic from digesting too much woke propaganda
by Anonymous | reply 31 | April 17, 2024 5:55 PM |
His eyes! He looks like an absolute lunatic... because he is. God, I hope Fauci sues him to hell and back.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | April 17, 2024 6:22 PM |
[quote]Taylor Swift get your man out of the game
It's already too late for that oaf.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | April 17, 2024 6:34 PM |
[quote]Autistic brains constantly look for patterns and associations. Relentlessly, analytically processing and making associations. Sometimes, something goes terribly wrong.
Case in point, our Biden is Exiting the Race! troll.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | April 17, 2024 6:40 PM |
Apparently CTE Aaron Rogers never came across a conspiracy theory he doesn't believe. HIV goes back to at least the 1960s. The first identified patient with HIV infection and AIDS was a Scandinavian man in the 1960s, who had visited west-central Africa. Because of easier ability to travel between countries, the virus became more and more prevalent in the middle to late 1970s.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | April 17, 2024 6:44 PM |
Read the book “The Origin of AIDS.” The author pinpointed the transmission to the early 20th century from chimpanzees that were probably killed and eaten by starving British or French colonial soldiers. Urbanization and industrialization changed agrarian African life, creating cities like Johannesburg out of nothing, creating a population of transient young men to work in mines and making prostitution widespread. It was the perfect place for AIDS to emerge.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | April 17, 2024 6:57 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 37 | April 17, 2024 7:19 PM |
Love the headline: Noted Scientist.....bwa-ha-ha
by Anonymous | reply 38 | April 17, 2024 7:26 PM |
Aaron is attractive and smart. Every Datalounger's dream husband.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | April 17, 2024 7:38 PM |
A mean jerk got his boy down slow and bad.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | April 18, 2024 1:20 AM |
I'm sure he is a beast in bed given all the crazy, but do you really want to listen to all of his conspiracy theories for a wild fuck?
by Anonymous | reply 43 | April 18, 2024 2:44 AM |
Didn't the Jets realize what a "package deal" it was getting? Just like the Colts and Andrew Luck, another scholar athlete! Except the latter actually has unbeaten/undiluted brains 🧠
Um, 😬...
by Anonymous | reply 44 | April 18, 2024 3:04 AM |
Let’s just tell that POS A.R. to shut the fuck up. Nobody gives a flying fuck what he thinks.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | April 18, 2024 3:25 AM |
[quote]that is a fundamentally white supremacist/white victimhood excuse;
r28 I mean, I mainly heard the conspiracy theory spread around within the community and I personally know gays who believe the government, at minimum, manipulated it to be more virulent and then purposely released it into the gay community as a genocide attempt. The white supremacists seemed to more lean into the "It's God's judgement" bullshit.
I think the government knew exactly what it was as soon as it started clustering in the gay community and treated the gay men infected like lepers by incorrectly suggesting it was spread via the air to further isolate the community and, also, psychologically torment.
It doesn't seem implausible. For the longest, the government and a large chunk of this country had no love for the gay community. Why not try to wipe out the entire community? Keep in mind, this country has a history of literally torturing the marginalized to death and it was supported by the government. So...
by Anonymous | reply 46 | April 18, 2024 4:14 AM |
The idea that the US government created AIDS was a piece of Soviet-era Russian disinformation which its creators styled "Operation Denver." The rollout was highly successful, and continues to wreak damage even today, informing Covid conspiracy theories.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | April 18, 2024 5:58 AM |
@r43, "do you really want to listen to all of his conspiracy theories for a wild fuck? "
I'm still thinking 🤔
by Anonymous | reply 48 | April 18, 2024 6:14 AM |
(^.^) fake interest for a real fuck
by Anonymous | reply 49 | April 18, 2024 6:31 AM |
Hilarious but sad to see all the gay sheep line up and not even question that there was something suspect about HIV suddenly appearing in the 1980's right when gay people were finally gaining some measure of equality.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | April 18, 2024 7:47 AM |
^ Hi, troll, yeah we did back in the 80s, that's when we discovered it was all bullshit . Isn't it time for your potato and vodka break?
by Anonymous | reply 51 | April 18, 2024 8:05 AM |
[Quote] Hilarious but sad to see all the gay sheep line up and not even question that there was something suspect about HIV suddenly appearing in the 1980's right when gay people were finally gaining some measure of equality.
and fucking like crazy w/o protection
by Anonymous | reply 52 | April 18, 2024 8:24 AM |
I can't work out his motivation. Usually people that make comments like that are grifters looking for Twitter engagement to make money and get attention, but Rodgers clearly has enough money and attention from his football.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | April 18, 2024 8:44 AM |
^ He's not having regular sex with anyone and the closet is making him nuts
by Anonymous | reply 54 | April 18, 2024 8:50 AM |
Re: R53: He enjoys stoking hate and mistrust of the government, vaccines, and the like. He gets off on it. He loves upsetting people and having people even dumber than he is look to him as a news source.
In times of trouble or need, do you think this p.o.s. has to worry about standing in line for treatment or healthcare? For food? To see a provider or a specialist? Fuck no. He will always have the best and there will be no delay. But his smooth brained fans who think he's some deep thinker or he's uncovering some great conspiracy before their very eyes? Well their care, treatment, and providers are and will be substandard and part of that will be traced back to the misinformation Rodgers is shoveling their way.
Which he also probably gets a charge out of, by the way. He is not a good person.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | April 18, 2024 11:20 AM |
W&W for R55 all day
by Anonymous | reply 56 | April 18, 2024 12:08 PM |
R47 Even the Russians couldn't believe their psy-op got any traction back in the 80's.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | April 18, 2024 12:22 PM |
Brain damage.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | April 18, 2024 12:29 PM |
I didn't get the conspiracy theory gene, but I do find them interesting. In order for most conspiracy theories to actually be real, the number of people and the mix of public and private agencies that would need to be involved just makes you think it would be almost too impossible to pull off. I don't care how many NDAs are signed, someone, somewhere is going to talk.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | April 18, 2024 12:31 PM |
Most of the conspiracy theories take some of the truth in a situation, look for something that was not homogeneous, and then go down a rabbit hole with it. The overwhelming majority of these theories remind me of the Marvel comic book series I used to read as a kid, What If..., which takes superhero characters, put's them in a somewhat different scenario, and then weaves a fairy tale alternative world.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | April 18, 2024 12:37 PM |
It's like the conspiracy shit around TWA flight 800. Missiles don't target and fire themselves in a vacuum. If as alleged the plane was hit by a missile from a sub or ship, one that has a crew, dozens unto hundreds of people knew about it.
And each and every one of them kept their mouths shut for almost thirty years? Come on. The guy running for the Senate in Montana can't keep a story about how one bullet got in his arm straight. But hundreds of people watched a plane fall out of the sky killing hundreds of people they had something to do with and we get crickets?
You'd have to be crazy to believe that.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | April 18, 2024 12:46 PM |
What r51 and r61 said.
The same people who slam how inept any government is, be it local, state or federal, are usually the same people who believe the government can flawlessly mastermind a fantastical, monumental event.
I actually resent and am a bit envious of conspiracy theorists for the extra mental bandwidth they have to entertain their fantasies to the point that it supplants reality.
As it is, my mental and emotional budget is overwhelmed by reality; existence and facts as they are.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | April 18, 2024 1:07 PM |
Ooops, meant r59, not r51 ^
by Anonymous | reply 63 | April 18, 2024 1:08 PM |
Not absurd. The military asked for $10 million to create a virus to work on the immune system, and they got the money. Dr. Robert Gallo's published papers show a pattern of experimentation.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | April 18, 2024 1:15 PM |
@r62, "I actually resent and am a bit envious of conspiracy theorists for the extra mental bandwidth they have to entertain their fantasies to the point that it supplants reality. "
You've never done meth, have you? It's amazing how much useless bandwidth that shit gives you 🤪
by Anonymous | reply 65 | April 18, 2024 3:28 PM |
[quote]The same people who slam how inept any government is, be it local, state or federal, are usually the same people who believe the government can flawlessly mastermind a fantastical, monumental event.
That's exactly what I tell people, R62.
I ask them, "Do you know anyone who works for the government*? These people barely do what they [italic]get paid[/italic] to do, they're so fucking stupid and lazy -- they could never [italic]flawlessly mastermind a fantastical, monumental event.[/italic]
*not all of them, of course -- but most
by Anonymous | reply 66 | April 18, 2024 3:42 PM |
The STOOPID, don’t trust the government conspiracies also provide cover for the real scandals.
Like how the blood banking industry and factor VIII pharma companies bribed doctors to lie and tell congress that there no evidence that it was a blood borne illness and not to test for and discard Hep. B positive blood. (80ish percent of PWAs in the early to mid-80s were also Hep B positive) Of course they were intentionally soliciting Hep B positive donors because they could separate the components into both Hep B vaccine AND Factor VIII, doubling their profits.
And once it was confirmed that HIV was blood borne and they were required to dump the infected reserves? The requirement didn’t extend to Puerto Rico so they dumped all the infected blood and Factor VIII there instead of throwing it out and taking a financial loss.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | April 18, 2024 4:25 PM |
So fucking glad the Packers ditched his nutty ass. He nearly ruined almost 50 years of my Packer fandom. I was sad to see Aaron Jones go. That still hurts and I think the decision will bite them in the ass
by Anonymous | reply 68 | April 18, 2024 4:49 PM |
"Government gameplan" is pushing it but wrapped into that broad misnomer Aaron does offer some decent insight re: Fauci and the AIDS vaccine. Some do blame Fauci for it not happening but it's much bigger than that.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | April 18, 2024 5:01 PM |
R50
HIV had been around in small numbers for many decades. Small isolated outbreaks that never took hold.
What happened in the 1970s for gay men? The bath culture exploded. The club baths and other venues went from nowhere to virtually everywhere and almost overnight it seemed.
Coupled with lots and lots more anal sex by lots more people in the baths, poppers which helped increase everything including fisting. And the fisting community became ground central for aids and death in the early 1980s.
The FFA was an actual real group. It was not the CIA it was not Reagan it was far to much exchange of bodily fluid by far to many people and HIV and AIDS exploded in a perfect storm of unfortunate events that came together.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | April 18, 2024 5:21 PM |
[quote]The same people who slam how inept any government is, be it local, state or federal, are usually the same people who believe the government can flawlessly mastermind a fantastical, monumental event.
No, r62. It's that these government bodies have been proven to not only be corrupt, but downright evil and calculating. I don't find them inept at all. Anyone capable of orchestrating controlled chaos on multiple occasions for their own personal gain is actually quite intelligent. It's the average citizen who is dumb enough to believe they aren't actually capable of pulling this shit off when they've done worse. Repeatedly.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | April 18, 2024 5:21 PM |
[quote] What happened in the 1970s for gay men?
Gay liberation in general resulted in new attitudes toward promiscuity, which was recontextualized not only as empowering but self-fulfillment.
AIDS spread because of an extremely efficient mode of transmission - semen depositing. Doesn’t matter if it happened in a bathhouse or not. The 1970s saw the creation of the gay ghetto where for the first time in history thousands of gay men were brought together in close proximity and told to be as promiscuous as possible. This had never happened before. It was a perfect storm.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | April 18, 2024 5:31 PM |
The craziest thing about (the very crazy) Rodgers isn't that he has these ridiculously stupid and dangerous beliefs, which aren't unusual among professional athletes and/or people who've sustained significant head trauma. It's that he's proudly and quite deliberately made it such a prominent part of his public persona.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | April 18, 2024 5:40 PM |
R72
How old are you? Asked nicely :-)
In the 1960s you had no baths virtually anywhere. There were no darkroom leather clubs in major cities. You had gloryholes in dept stores and such. , the local picked park, gangbang anal orgy groups are kind of hard to pull off in those places
You also had meeting someone in a bar and actually going home with them to fuck. Or maybe the local ad in the local Free Press.
The baths and other venues similar to the baths changed everything as far as how much fucking went on.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | April 18, 2024 5:40 PM |
Why wouldn't he, R73? It gets him arguments and attention. And that's his true end game as it is the end game of any contrarian, be they famous or the garden variety loudmouth on your social feed who posts for likes, views, and to clap back.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | April 18, 2024 5:52 PM |
[quote]and fucking like crazy w/o protection
r52 And that was something new in the 80's? We've been doing that forever.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | April 18, 2024 7:08 PM |
[quote]It gets him arguments and attention.
When all is said and done, it will have cost him tens of millions of dollars in endorsements and post-NFL career opportunities. Which people like him don't care about when they're mouthing off and getting attention, but no matter how wealthy they are it eventually turns into a woe-is-me tale of systemic persecution.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | April 18, 2024 7:11 PM |
How many poz guys has Erin been with?
by Anonymous | reply 78 | April 18, 2024 7:14 PM |
R77 Case in point: Curt Schilling.
A lot of people want to stuff the bloody sock in his mouth.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | April 18, 2024 7:15 PM |
[quote]it eventually turns into a woe-is-me tale of systemic persecution.
Which inevitably leads to job with Fox News.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | April 18, 2024 8:35 PM |
^ Aaron's Conspiracy Hour, coming this fall on Fox!
by Anonymous | reply 81 | April 18, 2024 8:40 PM |
[quote] ^ He's not having regular sex with anyone and the closet is making him nuts.
Exactly, he needs to get laid asap. Better yet as the lone bottom in a gang bang with a bunch of college aged football players who ravage his sacred hole and leave creamed and gaping.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | April 18, 2024 8:49 PM |
R41 Do we think AR ever let Kevin fuck him and cum in his hole. Did AR have a deep secret fetish to be a submissive cum dump bottom and have his hole ravaged, torn apart and bred by Kevin and possibly others.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | April 18, 2024 8:56 PM |
Kevin Lanflisi is helping the government spread AIDS
by Anonymous | reply 84 | April 18, 2024 9:23 PM |
Who? Never met him…
by Anonymous | reply 85 | April 18, 2024 9:27 PM |
R76 not like in the 70s and 80s when Clubs like the Anvil, Mineshaft, The Limelight and so many other venues opened during the era of gay liberation
by Anonymous | reply 86 | April 18, 2024 9:35 PM |
[quote]The baths and other venues similar to the baths changed everything as far as how much fucking went on.
Then by that logic the closing of the bathhouses in San Francisco would have greatly reduced the number of new cases. It did not.
AIDS was capable of spreading because
A) societal change: the sexual revolution created new positive attitudes about sexual activity among many people
B) centralization: white flight emptied out large urban neighborhoods like the Castro, which created larger and centralized gay villages (San Francisco’s gay community had corners in Polk Gulch, SoMa and the Tenderloin before they centralized in the Castro). These people built businesses (including bathhouses) and communities that had not existed in such size, volume and proximity before. These drew like a magnet more and more people from the hinterlands. And not just transplants - tourists, who could transport the virus to other cities.
The Castro was the proverbial fish in a barrel situation. Every plague starts the same way - people in close proximity become exposed to a virus.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | April 18, 2024 10:15 PM |
R87
No there is a difference between a change agent like IMO the baths were and saying that change agent is the only thing driving an issue. Lots of things came into play.
Lots of infections by the time the baths closed and those HIV infections kept showing up for years. And then the Internet came along and was another major change agent.
But infections did drop drastically especially P&S syphilis in the 1990s which saw a dramatic drop after the baths were closed. Also a time of safe sex and great condom use. Then the condoms came off and safe sex became code for anti sex homophobe.
I don’t think I am not disagreeing with anything you have said
by Anonymous | reply 88 | April 18, 2024 10:29 PM |
I don't remember the exact year AIDS became something everyone started worrying about. 85? 86? I know that I was still a teen. Was it the Rock Hudson/Linda Evans kiss on Dynasty that set it off mainstream?
by Anonymous | reply 89 | April 18, 2024 10:35 PM |
R89 The first significant mainstream article about a disease that was affecting the gay community was published in July 1981.
On July 3, 1981, The New York Times published its first article about "AIDS", which was not yet identified or diagnosed. The article headline read, “Rare Cancer Seen in 41 Homosexuals.” The cancer was Kaposi's sarcoma, and until then it had seldom been seen in otherwise healthy young men.
It wasn't until about 1983-1984 that the virus they names HIV was identified as the most likely cause, and that it was suspected causing a suppression of the immune system that resulted in cancers, pneumonia, and numerous other opportunistic diseases. I recall by 1983 I was a freshman in college and I was reluctant to kiss other guys let alone have sex with them. It put a significant pause on my progression into a gay sex life, but my fear of being intimate probably also saved me from getting infected. More than half the gay people I knew from college and in my groups of friends, acquaintances and neighbors in NYC died between 1984 and 2000.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | April 19, 2024 12:23 AM |
I was ashamed of my circumcision and it saved me too from hiv because it made me avoid sex.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | April 19, 2024 12:32 AM |
I remember first reading about it in Rolling Stone in the spring of '83. I'm pretty sure because it was in my freshman year and the only year I had a subscription.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | April 19, 2024 12:34 AM |
I read that story that morning R90. We got the NY Times in the office. It scared the shit out of me because I figured the "41 homosexuals" weren't doing anything I wasn't doing up until then.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | April 19, 2024 12:57 AM |
Some people initially were actually suspecting that poppers were the cause of the gay cancer.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | April 19, 2024 1:16 AM |
[quote]I remember first reading about it in Rolling Stone in the spring of '83.
I heard about it in RS too, but I can't remember the year. And like R94 said, there was speculation that it was related to poppers or something in bathhouses.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | April 19, 2024 1:21 AM |
RFK Jr spreads the "poppers cause AIDS" conspiracy
by Anonymous | reply 96 | April 19, 2024 1:26 AM |
I can read though
by Anonymous | reply 97 | April 19, 2024 1:31 AM |
[quote]RFK Jr spreads the "poppers cause AIDS" conspiracy
You Biden apologists are hysterical. I don't give a rat's ass what a President or a Presidential candidate thinks about poppers or AIDS for that matter. What's he gonna do about it? I just know Biden is a doddering old fool, Trump is insane, and we need a better option on the economy and foreign policy than either of those two jokers.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | April 19, 2024 3:37 AM |
“Fool” and “insane” are apt descriptions for Kennedy.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | April 19, 2024 3:40 AM |
[quote]PC/R98: You Biden apologists are hysterical.
WTF does noting that RFK Jr is a pseudoscience conspiracy theorist have to be with Biden, or being a Biden apologist? Regardless of Biden, RFK Jr is deeply unqualified to be president. And he seems to be carrying water for Russia and Trump, so you cannot pretend that he's the middling solution to this.
From a practical standpoint, thinking that RFK Jr can win is simply untethered from reality. It won't happen; he can only function as a spoiler. And for all intents and purposes, by continuing to beat this drum, 𝑦𝑜𝑢'𝑟𝑒 carrying water for Russia and Trump. Why are you doing that? I know you're not that stupid. Are you being paid to do it? Are you being 𝑙𝑎𝑖𝑑 to do it? Did you drink bleach or imbibe ivermectin? WTF gives?
[quote]I don't give a rat's ass what a President or a Presidential candidate thinks about poppers or AIDS for that matter. What's he gonna do about it?
It makes a profound difference to legislation for funding, research, and disease/pandemic responses whether the sitting president is on the side of science, or is a goddamned nut.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | April 19, 2024 3:51 AM |
R98, I didn't even mention Biden, I was just pointing out one of the MANY kooky conspiracies that RFK believes
by Anonymous | reply 101 | April 19, 2024 4:11 AM |
R101, RFK Jr amplifies the views of Peter Duesberg, an AIDS denialist.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | April 19, 2024 4:22 AM |
Hmm, the Rationalwiki article on Peter Duesberg seems to be the more succinct. I should have posted it instead.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | April 19, 2024 4:24 AM |
Perhaps the Rationalwiki article on RFK Jr is, as well.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | April 19, 2024 4:27 AM |
I am a gay man and I have spent my life APPALLED by the wanton harlot lifestyles of homosexuals, the venal nihilistic lust and the insatiable bottom(less) need for sperm and worship of anal secretions bringing the disease and pestilence only kept at bay in a stop gap way by costly toxic chemotherapy which must be paid for by upstanding citizens such as myself. Appalled, I say, as all of us normal gay man are, those who know that our full dance cards are NOT comparable to orgies a go go.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | April 19, 2024 5:38 AM |
▲ Ladies and Gentlemen, the Pope Emeritus, Benedict XVI.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | April 19, 2024 5:45 AM |
r100 It's lesser of three evils at this point.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | April 19, 2024 6:02 AM |
Wouldn't one say "the least of three evils"?
by Anonymous | reply 108 | April 19, 2024 6:08 AM |
PC/R107, RFK Jr 𝑐𝑎𝑛𝑛𝑜𝑡 be the lesser of three evils because votes for him throw the election to Trump. The RFK Jr campaign has already admitted that this was their intention in running him to begin with. It was never to place RFK Jr in the White House. Jill Stein was used by Putin in much the same way in 2016.
But since at R98, you brought up Biden, let's talk about him, then. You cannot characterize him as being 'evil' in a class in any way comparable to Trump without having bought into various claims of dezinformatsiya, you know that, right? And Biden's age and infirmity is not a legitimate issue because, should anything happen to him, the vice president succeeds him. And she is both competent and able. There's no 'evil' there.
RFK Jr is intended to throw the election to Trump. And Trump 𝑖𝑠 evil, a proxy for Vladimir Putin. No sane person could want that.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | April 19, 2024 6:21 AM |
R105
Many on DL claim a coming gay witch hunt if the right are elected. The Mike Johnson’s of the world unleashed.
There is only one thing that will shake the foundations of gay rights in the US and that is if the 93% , the non gay non queer group of citizens become afraid of the 7% because of infectious disease. The 7% just can’t be seen as a risk to the 93% and their children,
As long as the diseases stay within the high risk groups, the IV drug addicts , the street sex workers, the homeless, the gay males, no one hardly will much give a damn
.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | April 19, 2024 8:29 AM |
How many people would be 'shocked' if Aaron came out? I'm assuming very few.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | April 19, 2024 8:39 AM |
R110 Maybe I'm being optimistic here, but I honestly think if the right did try to start a gay witch hunt there'd be a pretty big backlash. Look at how the recent abortion witch hunt has resulted in many Republicans and those on the right calling for calm - because they know more than 50% of the population aren't anti all abortion.
There's obviously still a lot of homophobia out there, but I think a majority of people now don't really 'care' about homosexuality. They're not 'pro' gay people, but they're not against us either.
With the abortion issue, they can say it's "baby murder" or "what about the rights of the baby?" With trans people they can say "we don't want men in dresses attacking women in bathrooms" but with gay rights and gay marriage it's really hard to argue against, because it's just consenting adults of the same sex who are impacted. Most people grudgingly accept gay marriage now that it's a reality and - even if they're not our biggest fans - most don't want to take those sort of rights away from gay people.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | April 19, 2024 8:50 AM |
R112
Absolutely, gay rights are currently on firm ground and accepted in the US. And the right can’t use the Bible to change that.
Just as long as the majority don’t become afraid of the queer community because of gay and bi men and infectious disease,. If that happens all bets are off and hunting season will begin.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | April 19, 2024 9:30 AM |
R113 I think one of the key reasons tolerance and acceptance of gay people has risen is because more feel confident coming out. This means most people have at least one gay person in their (extended) family, or a gay friend, acquaintance, work colleague, etc.
Putting a human face on a subject like gay rights makes a massive difference, because then gay people aren't this scary faceless people. They're individuals you actually know and care about.
That's why I can't see the scenario you mention happening. If someone tries to spin a narrative that's negative about gay people, most people will compare what's being said against what they know, and when the two don't align they'll reject it.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | April 19, 2024 9:54 AM |
And Germany was the safest country in Europe for Jews until it wasn’t.
by Anonymous | reply 115 | April 19, 2024 10:00 AM |
[quote]Autistic brains constantly look for patterns and associations. Relentlessly, analytically processing and making associations.
That’s how ALL brains work, dumbass.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | April 19, 2024 10:20 AM |
R113
Men who identify as bi or gay are still a very small % of the US population. According to recent Gallup surveys 7.2% of the population when you include all the GLBT+++.
But if that small % of gay and bi men within that 7.2% start to pose a threat to the health of the majority and their children things will change drastically. We dodged a bullet on HIV which stayed pretty much a high risk issue and never went wide spread everyone at risk. We dodged a bullet on monkeypox and that never crossed over as many feared.
But if the next time the infections or risks do cross over into the majority and threaten their health everything will change.
All the majority would have to do is read on line for stories of refusing to practice safe sex, the refusal to use condoms, lots and lots and lots of high risk sex, the talks of PnP orgies, things will change drastically. And things will get ugly.
The tiny in numbers minorities just can’t be seen as risks to the vast majority..
by Anonymous | reply 117 | April 19, 2024 10:32 AM |
[quote]Just as long as the majority don’t become afraid of the queer community because of gay and bi men and infectious disease,.
Just dropping this here for no reason.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | April 19, 2024 10:41 AM |
Some of you either have no idea how much religious people still despise us and wish we would go back to being forced to hide or are right wingers and trying lull the few naive here, into a false sense of security.
I know it's exhausting and upsetting to accept but, yes Blanche, they still feel that way. Plus they are pissed they've had to "hide it" for a couple of years because of "PC"/"woke" and they're infuriated we and our "lifestyle" are being "shoved down" their throats in their movies, TV shows, and media.
Don't be stupid about the reason for their acceptance. Don't assume their hate for us is gone just because it's not overt. Just because their focus is on another group, doesn't mean they don't plan on kicking us in the teeth again at first opportunity.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | April 19, 2024 10:47 AM |
R118
When or if things turn bad for the gay male community it will not be hate and the Bible that will drive people. It will be fear of infectious disease or diseases that can no longer be treated..
With luck this won’t happen. But it will take luck. And let’s hope that new and deadly strain of Mpox is not an issue we are talking about in the coming months.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | April 19, 2024 10:57 AM |
@r116, "That’s how ALL brains work, dumbass. "
😂🤣
by Anonymous | reply 121 | April 19, 2024 11:03 AM |
R119 speaks truth.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | April 19, 2024 11:18 AM |
Reasons wouldn’t be monolithic and plenty of erstwhile allies would console themselves with getting our things at discount.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | April 19, 2024 11:27 AM |
[quote]we and our "lifestyle" are being "shoved down" their throats in their movies
Pics please.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | April 19, 2024 11:31 AM |
[quote]I was just pointing out one of the MANY kooky conspiracies that RFK believes
He's a nutcase who shouldn't hold any public office, let alone the presidency.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | April 19, 2024 12:06 PM |
The only sane thing RFK Jr ever stood for was for keeping the New York State Hudson river and water sources clean from pollutants. Just about everything else was false beliefs and basically lunacy.
by Anonymous | reply 126 | April 19, 2024 12:15 PM |
(Besides everyone knows that AIDS is caused by indoor track lighting on grey carpet)
by Anonymous | reply 127 | April 19, 2024 12:20 PM |
So you too are a thorough moron R27?
I lost about half the friends I had at the time. People like you are akin to holocaust deniers and Confederate bigots. All in an ass backwards attempt to discredit the very man that led the charge to find effective treatment.
The reason however misguided for autism trolls ascribing the disorder to people like you is simply because they are looking for a neurological explanation for such dysfunction.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | April 19, 2024 12:26 PM |
Gay people have come a very long way in a very short amount of time, but, sadly, way too many confuse tolerance with acceptance. We didn't get marriage equality in a proper manner - which is legislatively. The courts gave it too us. Many states still have antiquated anti-sodomy laws in their code. Most people are not calling us mental deviants and are throwing us in asylums, but there are still many, many places in this country where gay men do not feel that they can come out publicly. I think many people don't truly understand that there are two very different worlds for gay people based on many factors and they're not all political.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | April 19, 2024 12:38 PM |
^ That's never going to happen. Legally mandated tolerance is about the best you can hope for
by Anonymous | reply 130 | April 19, 2024 12:54 PM |
And legally mandated tolerance goes away with not voting or throwing your vote away on a crackpot tool like RFK Jr.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | April 19, 2024 12:58 PM |
I think mpox came from monkeys. We should rename it to monkey pox.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | April 19, 2024 2:30 PM |
[quote]When or if things turn bad for the gay male community it will not be hate and the Bible that will drive people. It will be fear of infectious disease or diseases that can no longer be treated..
r120 It's already getting bad for the entire LGBT community and the driving force is not fear of infectious disease. People who once even considered themselves "accepting" or "tolerant" are being driven more towards either an unwillingness to support (apathy) or fight for our rights or just full blown anti-LGBT because of the active attempts to involve their children in anything LGBT-related. Everyone has a boundary. I think the biggest boundary has been, and always will be, their kids.
That's universal. No one wants someone trying to influence their kids in a way that goes against their personal beliefs and values. I'm sure gay parents don't want homophobes influencing their children with anti-LGBT, either. And both are currently happening in society. If anything, parents on both sides of the issue are about to implode. The only problem is that there are fewer same-sex parents than there are straights who, by and large, are becoming more and more incentivized to push-back on anything LGBT related because it's definitely gone too far is certain cases.
That said, the Democrats' most reliable voting blocks have traditionally been racial minorities and Muslims for decades. Unfortunately, the increase in introducing children to LGBT topics in children's media, schools, etc doesn't sit well with the vast majority of those same racial minorities due to a long history of homophobic beliefs being deeply ingrained in the culture. This is especially true with Muslims. Add to the Palestine/Israel conflict, and that is one voting block that may be sitting home en masse in November and indirectly helping the right.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | April 19, 2024 4:14 PM |
We should rename it RodgersPox
by Anonymous | reply 134 | April 19, 2024 5:31 PM |
r109 PD, I know we disagree on many things, and one of them is Ukraine. I see our support for Ukraine as a huge threat to world peace. It's reignited the Cold War. And it's rather evident to me that he Biden family's involvement in that country before the 2014 coup, shows there is U.S. intervention, directed by then VP Biden.
So yes, I consider Biden an "evil" and malignant force whose policies can lead us to nuclear conflict. Couple that with his administrations tacit approval of Israel's invasion of Gaza? Nah, I know the Democrats are better for working people and minorities, black and LGBT etc. But his foreign policy is enough for me to look elsewhere.
And I like Kamala Harris. I'm a big fan. BUT, and it's a big butt! If Biden dies, I don't think she has the strength to withstand the forces which will be lined up against her.
Despite RFK's loony views on the vaxx and AIDs, like I said, of the three, I'm seriously considering voting for him or Cornel West.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | April 20, 2024 3:23 AM |
Cornel West? Ah, yes, the "liberal" who's getting funding from Harlan Crow
by Anonymous | reply 136 | April 20, 2024 3:37 AM |
I'm seriously thinking of voting for my neighbor, Ed. He's pretty cool and promises to do stuff that needs doing if elected
I'm in
by Anonymous | reply 137 | April 20, 2024 4:02 AM |
[quote]PC/R135: PD, I know we disagree on many things, and one of them is Ukraine.
Yes.
[quote]I see our support for Ukraine as a huge threat to world peace.
The threat to world peace is not our support for Ukraine's sovereignty, but rather Putin's aggressive attempt to take the country over and absorb it into Russia. The behavior is like that of Hitler. And Putin has no intention of stopping with Ukraine. He next intends to invade the nearest proximate European countries.
[quote]It's reignited the Cold War.
The Cold War never ended. And to the extent it has gotten hotter, again, that it due to Vladimir Putin, not to the actions of any US presidents.
[quote]And it's rather evident to me that he Biden family's involvement in that country before the 2014 coup, shows there is U.S. intervention, directed by then VP Biden.
As I remarked before, dezinformatsiya. You've fallen down a rabbit hole. None of that crap is true. See the accompanying link.
You need to pay attention to where that stuff is coming from, and who's spreading/amplifying it.
[quote]Couple that with his administrations tacit approval of Israel's invasion of Gaza?
He has no direct control over that. About the only way he could put a stop to that would be to put out a hit on Netanyahu, and that's really not an option. This isn't the 1960s-1970s. Holding Biden responsible for Netanyahu's actions is an argument being ampified by Russian troll farms in an effort to get younger US voters to abandon Biden.
[quote]And I like Kamala Harris. I'm a big fan. BUT, and it's a big butt! If Biden dies, I don't think she has the strength to withstand the forces which will be lined up against her.
So your answer is to cede the election to Trump? You need to rethink that.
Once Trump/Putin have won, there won't be anything standing in the way of them destroying United States LGBTs. And they have every intention of it. Putin is already destroying Russia's gays.
[quote]Despite RFK's loony views on the vaxx and AIDs, like I said, of the three, I'm seriously considering voting for him or Cornel West.
It's a zero sum game. Voting for a third party candidate is the same as not voting at all, or as directly voting for Trump. The only option which has the potential to defeat Trump is a vote for Biden, whether you find him sufficiently perfect or not. It is the logical choice.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | April 20, 2024 4:15 AM |
[quote]And it's rather evident to me that he Biden family's involvement in that country before the 2014 coup, shows there is U.S. intervention, directed by then VP Biden.
"There's not a shred of evidence but I'm going to make this accusation anyway."
Are you a GOP member of the House Judiciary Committee?
by Anonymous | reply 139 | April 20, 2024 11:21 AM |
The Burnt Toast man from yesterday could have found a home and similar spirits on this thread.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | April 20, 2024 1:00 PM |
[quote]"There's not a shred of evidence but I'm going to make this accusation anyway." Are you a GOP member of the House Judiciary Committee?
[r139] Huh? That's completely irrelevant to what I said. VP Biden first visited Ukraine in 2010. His son set up shop there in 2013, a year before the coup. The Bidens have invested millions there. It's not a coincidence that Biden is President and voila! - there is a war in Ukraine.
There's your evidence. Refute it.
by Anonymous | reply 141 | April 21, 2024 7:55 AM |
^ Knock it off you Q-Nut troll. Why don't you spend your energy deep-diving Jared Kushner's $2 billion Saudi take or Trump's $25 million China take. WHILE WORKING FOR THE US GOVERNMENT
by Anonymous | reply 142 | April 21, 2024 8:54 AM |
Poisoned Dragon, thank you for your reasoned response to Platonic Caveman. Not only are his basic facts wrong, but he is also committing the first sin of non-logical thinking. Correlation is NOT causation. (Nor does it count as "evidence")
Let's first organize the whole Hunter Biden involvement with Burisma, using all the knowledge that is widely available on this topic. Hunter Biden was UNDOUBTEDLY hired by Burisma in the hopes that his family name would attract investors and would also provide cover for some highly suspect and corrupt business dealings. In Hunter's early time with Burisma, Ukraine (under the OLD regime), had a corrupt prosecutor general overseeing corrupt business dealings. The part you don't seem to know or understand is that Joe Biden directly intervened to have that corrupt official, Viktor Shokin FIRED - which meant that that there was no longer a government official in Ukraine protecting Burisma from investigation. Joe Biden did this at the behest of a wide consortium of US European allies, all of whom agreed that that prosecutor needed to go.
Where is your evidence that the Bidens have invested millions in Ukraine? None was provided.
You do know that the FBI informant whose information you are parroting has now been arrested for making up the entire story, right?
by Anonymous | reply 143 | April 21, 2024 9:03 AM |
I was sad to see Aaron Jones go. That still hurts and I think the decision will bite them in the ass
r68, you're singing my tune.
I Jordan Love, love, LOVE, the running game when it gets hot, more than the passing game.
Give Jordan Love whatever amount of dough-ray-mee he asks for, put a solid offensive line around him that will prevent him being thrown around like a rag-doll, and they're good to go.
Handing off to a smoking runner is always the less the physically risky play than a pass.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | April 21, 2024 3:09 PM |
I just forsee Aaron Jones singlehandedly leading the Vikings to the Superbowl. Or at least just kicking the shit out of the Packers.
by Anonymous | reply 145 | April 21, 2024 3:16 PM |
He was lovesick with a broken heart and this is why he became a Qanon anti-vaxx magat. We should all console him.
by Anonymous | reply 146 | April 21, 2024 5:29 PM |
R139 do you honestly think Burisma the Ukranian Energy Company would have put Hunter Biden on its board if he wasn't the son of the Vice President?
by Anonymous | reply 147 | April 21, 2024 5:51 PM |
R147
Breaking News
People who know people, people who know important people,,people who are related to important people often get hired for jobs absolutely no one under any conceivable condition would think of hiring us for.
Which leads to the theory that rich connected people often get breaks the rest of us don’t get.
Shocking?
by Anonymous | reply 148 | April 21, 2024 5:57 PM |
INCREDIBLE! Especially if the person is a self-admitted crack addict whose father wields power and influence and is hired by a foreign entity. I wonder why? Ever hear of influence peddling? In 2016 Joe Biden called for the dismissal of Ukranian prosecutor Viktor Shokin whose office had Burisma and other companies under investigation.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | April 21, 2024 6:08 PM |
Yes the political influence of crack and sex addicts
If your brother or sister was potus someone would throw money at you as well. And you would not have to be competent or a crack addict to get those jobs..
by Anonymous | reply 150 | April 21, 2024 6:13 PM |
R150 it's not about the political influence of crack addicts or sex addicts but rather the power of the VP but then again you know that, but you just don't have a sensible explanation.
by Anonymous | reply 151 | April 21, 2024 6:21 PM |
The hard drive and documents from Senate Republicans indicate few of Biden’s deals ever came to fruition and shed light on how fast he was spending his money.
by Anonymous | reply 152 | April 21, 2024 6:24 PM |
Wishing to corrupt someone is not the same thing as having actually corrupted them, but feel free to keep making unsubstantiated leaps and jumping to unsupported conclusions, I hear it’s great exercise.
by Anonymous | reply 153 | April 21, 2024 6:30 PM |
They took a good chance and hired the crack addict son of the VP. A good idea but was wasted money. They got shit for their effort. But their effort made sense.
If any of my people become potus I will be getting job offers. And they will be flooding in. And brother I will be taking some.
by Anonymous | reply 154 | April 21, 2024 6:39 PM |
Hopefully it won't be a job that doesn't require clear and concise communication skills R154
by Anonymous | reply 155 | April 21, 2024 7:00 PM |
R155
Makes no difference I will be getting that job . I will be rich and attending state dinners and you will still be a nasty cunt on the Internet. We will both have a role to play.
by Anonymous | reply 156 | April 21, 2024 7:05 PM |
r149 - Your trolling skills appear to be non-existent.
by Anonymous | reply 157 | April 21, 2024 7:06 PM |
[quote]^ Knock it off you Q-Nut troll. Why don't you spend your energy deep-diving Jared Kushner's $2 billion Saudi take or Trump's $25 million China take. WHILE WORKING FOR THE US GOVERNMENT
r142 Dumbass, I'm a left wing anarchist. This is the irrational flaw in your thinking. Merely because I'm anti-war and I know Biden is corrupt old and senile, it doesn't mean I support right wing QAnon wackos. Haha. Fuck Kushner and Trump. Who's even talking about them?
Maybe you should enroll in a political science class at your local community college. It might help you follow the discourse here.
by Anonymous | reply 158 | April 21, 2024 7:13 PM |
[quote]I'm a left wing anarchist.
What you are, r158/Caveman is a run of the mill, attention seeking troll.
by Anonymous | reply 159 | April 21, 2024 7:18 PM |
R158
Are you a wind bag talker on the Internet that calls himself an anarchist or are you the real deal that has done shit?
Anarchist that are just talkers aren’t worth shit.
by Anonymous | reply 160 | April 21, 2024 7:19 PM |
R154 Is there anything that indicates that job offers foreign or domestic were flooding in for Hunter Biden?
by Anonymous | reply 161 | April 21, 2024 7:19 PM |
Anarchy ultimately devolves into tyranny of the most powerful and/or ruthless. There are no real-life examples of a successful long-term anarchist society. That said my Antifa-adjacent anarchist brother went and volunteered with the Ukrainian resistance so blaming your parroting of Russian disinformation as somehow the only logical outcome of being an anarchistic is unfair to your fellow anarchists PC.
by Anonymous | reply 162 | April 21, 2024 7:42 PM |
r159 And you're an anonymous coward who supports the military industrial complex.
by Anonymous | reply 163 | April 21, 2024 8:01 PM |
[quote]Are you a wind bag talker on the Internet that calls himself an anarchist or are you the real deal that has done shit?
r160 I'm a manufacturing manager who supports the rights of my workers. I live this shit. Yeah, I donate to Antifa. But they're not our ideal advocates.
I'm an anarcho-syndicalist who supports worker's control of industry and abolition of the state.
by Anonymous | reply 164 | April 21, 2024 8:06 PM |
Caveman also gets off on teenagers raping each other with bats. Ignore it. It’s a troll.
by Anonymous | reply 165 | April 21, 2024 8:12 PM |
r162 ElderLez, Ukraine is a boondoggle for the arms industry. Please, that's hardly a war of liberation in Ukraine. They're Ukrainian nationalists and shills for the U.S.
What about being an anti-war activist don't you understand? I take no side in Russia v Ukraine. I'm neutral and anti-war and against American meddling and profits for the arms dealers at the expense of the Ukrainian people.
by Anonymous | reply 166 | April 21, 2024 8:12 PM |
R163 I’ve got zero shame about believing that a world where liberal democracies have technological, economic and yes, military, superiority to fascist dictatorships is a better world than the alternative.
And being middle management in manufacturing does not make you Emma Goldman.
by Anonymous | reply 167 | April 21, 2024 8:14 PM |
r165 Lol. If that wasn't a troll post I dunno what is. 🤣
Aaron Rodgers plays football, not baseball.
by Anonymous | reply 168 | April 21, 2024 8:15 PM |
[quote]And being middle management in manufacturing does not make you Emma Goldman.
r167 Some of us have to work for a living. I interact with the workers everyday and act as their advocate while helping to manufacture an excellent product.
by Anonymous | reply 169 | April 21, 2024 8:18 PM |
Caveman is also apparently stupid.
by Anonymous | reply 170 | April 21, 2024 8:19 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 171 | April 21, 2024 8:19 PM |
R164
So you do a lot of supporting and some donating ? Just another yacker like most are.
by Anonymous | reply 172 | April 21, 2024 8:20 PM |
I was confused following this thread for a bit until I realized there were missing posts. Yep, reflexively contrarian PC, the only poster on my ignored list.
by Anonymous | reply 173 | April 21, 2024 8:21 PM |
I don't get why people are still wasting their time with PC, r173.
by Anonymous | reply 174 | April 21, 2024 8:23 PM |
Are there people on DL not wasting their time? That thought has never dawned on me
by Anonymous | reply 175 | April 21, 2024 8:27 PM |
r172 I'm a worker, fool. What, you think anarcho-syndicalists throw bombs? Anarchism is not chaos, it's an ordered system without government.
by Anonymous | reply 176 | April 21, 2024 8:27 PM |
Ordered systems are forms of government.
by Anonymous | reply 177 | April 21, 2024 8:29 PM |
I loathe this fuckheaded fuckwit. But that theory's been around for a while and it's been debated here several times.
by Anonymous | reply 178 | April 21, 2024 8:30 PM |
r173 Duh uh wuh wuh wuh uh duh. Retard, don't let anyone hurt your wittle brain with posts which might frustrate you. 🤣
by Anonymous | reply 179 | April 21, 2024 8:30 PM |
@r158, "I'm a left wing anarchist."
Then why do you sound like a drunken MAGAt?... Dumbass
- r142
by Anonymous | reply 180 | April 21, 2024 8:30 PM |
Nothing wrong with being a talker that talks about things and says they support shit. It’s brave people like you that make a difference.
Oh and you are management. Worker my ass.
R176
by Anonymous | reply 181 | April 21, 2024 8:31 PM |
r177 Lez, you need to research anarcho-syndicalism. Workers' syndicates replace a state dominated by corporate interests.
by Anonymous | reply 182 | April 21, 2024 8:32 PM |
@r179, Drunk jackass
by Anonymous | reply 183 | April 21, 2024 8:32 PM |
r181 And what do you do? I create a great product and I back my workers.
by Anonymous | reply 184 | April 21, 2024 8:34 PM |
“I’m a left wing anarchist”
No lie I can’t stop laughing.
by Anonymous | reply 185 | April 21, 2024 8:34 PM |
I went to college with anarcho-syndicalists so I don’t need to research them having had my intellectual full of them and their Marxist cousins for four years.
Anarcho-syndicalists, Steve Bannon, Peter Thiel and Leninists all desire the destruction of the state as a prelude to some working class utopia. (Well in Peter Thiel’s case maybe only a billionaire and his trades’utopia) It’s great that you back your workers, but I prefer a world where worker’s right are protected by law not subject to the whims of the man in charge.
by Anonymous | reply 187 | April 21, 2024 8:45 PM |
r187 We deal with what we have on hand. We support existing unions and government labor laws. But the ultimate goal is an end to the state and its replacement with workers' syndicates.
European social democracies are already evolving in our direction.
by Anonymous | reply 188 | April 21, 2024 8:54 PM |
The new neighbor
Q-And what do you do for a living?
A-I’m a left wing anarchist
Q-and hobbies?
A- I’m a left wing anarchist
This is better than SNL
by Anonymous | reply 189 | April 21, 2024 9:07 PM |
[Quote] Wishing to corrupt someone is not the same thing as having actually corrupted them, but feel free to keep making unsubstantiated leaps and jumping to unsupported conclusions, I hear it’s great exercise.
Not such a leap when Hunter was clearly hired by a foreign energy corporation for his connections rather than his ability. job experience and crack I mean track record
by Anonymous | reply 190 | April 21, 2024 9:09 PM |
@r188, Communism is SOOO mid 20th century 🙄
Hint, it failed, comrade
by Anonymous | reply 191 | April 21, 2024 9:12 PM |
@r190, Hunter will be the first to admit he's a nepo-baby, but last I checked that's not illegal, otherwise the entire Trump family would be in jail, which they should be, but not for nepotism
by Anonymous | reply 192 | April 21, 2024 9:15 PM |
[quote]Ordered systems are forms of government.
But "anarchy" sounds so much sexier, don't you think?
by Anonymous | reply 193 | April 21, 2024 9:15 PM |
I see what you did there R192. You reduced the issue to being about a nepo-baby
by Anonymous | reply 194 | April 21, 2024 9:17 PM |
R190
Breaking News at 11
Hunter Biden found to be an addict who would lean on dad’s name to secure a well paying job. Three or four people in DC say they are shocked.
by Anonymous | reply 195 | April 21, 2024 9:18 PM |
@r194 " Hunter was clearly hired by a foreign energy corporation for his connections rather than his ability. job experience and crack I mean track record "
The very definition of nepotism, but again, not illegal
@195, "Hunter Biden found to be an addict who would lean on dad’s name to secure a well paying job."
Well, LOCK 'EM UP!
by Anonymous | reply 196 | April 21, 2024 9:25 PM |
It's mind-blowing that then ineffective, four-decade old Soviet propaganda isn't in the dustbin of history, but uncovered and disseminated now more effectively than the KGB managed to then. I mean this is eye-popping stuff.
by Anonymous | reply 197 | April 21, 2024 9:33 PM |
R196 diversion doesn't make the apparent conflict of interest look better
by Anonymous | reply 198 | April 21, 2024 9:33 PM |
Hunter Biden is no where near the threat to our countries future that Trump is. You are free to argue that point if you think I am wrong..
But if all you have is a sleazy son and a job that boat don’t fly
by Anonymous | reply 199 | April 21, 2024 9:38 PM |
My real fear for the country is not maga or trump. It’s left wing anarchist that will try and talk us to death.
by Anonymous | reply 200 | April 21, 2024 9:40 PM |
R199 Calm down girl! No one said Hunter Biden was a threat to the country. Overreact much!
by Anonymous | reply 201 | April 21, 2024 9:47 PM |
@r198, You're linking to Newsmax? Don't you have any links to TASS? 😂
by Anonymous | reply 202 | April 21, 2024 9:51 PM |
Newsmax :-)
by Anonymous | reply 203 | April 21, 2024 9:52 PM |
R202 So, ignore the content and focus on the label. Did you even watch the video which presents a balanced view btw?
by Anonymous | reply 204 | April 21, 2024 9:54 PM |
Dan Abrams is on NewsNATION, not Newsmax. Keep up!
by Anonymous | reply 205 | April 21, 2024 9:57 PM |
R202 Calm down girl and get the facts right! BTW how do you feel about the NY Times?
by Anonymous | reply 206 | April 21, 2024 10:02 PM |
I think when you DLers all come to this thread, you think about hot passionate closet case sex with Aaron. When he rams your tight ass with his tanned white supremacy cock, he whispers in your ear "this is just bro-sex, I am still straight, ok?" and you answer "yes" and kiss him on the forehead. When he cums inside you, he falls asleep in your arms and the next day he pretends you two were just watching a nascar race and both fell asleep from drinking too much beer.
by Anonymous | reply 207 | April 21, 2024 10:31 PM |
@r205, I'll let you "keep up" with the fascist newscasters that you want to fuck
by Anonymous | reply 208 | April 21, 2024 10:35 PM |
@r207, 0/10 🙄
by Anonymous | reply 209 | April 21, 2024 10:36 PM |
@r206, This is a WAY better story... AND it's only a month old as opposed to your 3 year old story
by Anonymous | reply 210 | April 21, 2024 10:39 PM |
“I think when you…”
Nope but we now know what you are thinking. Kind of a sad pathetic story actually.
“The love that dare not mention its name”
It has sort of a 1958 feel bout it.
by Anonymous | reply 211 | April 21, 2024 10:40 PM |
[quote]put a solid offensive line around him that will prevent him being thrown around like a rag-doll
This is easier said than done.
by Anonymous | reply 212 | April 21, 2024 10:47 PM |
R210 Same old, same old. One doesn't mitigate the other.
by Anonymous | reply 213 | April 21, 2024 11:18 PM |
LoL, National Review, r206? Because...of course.
by Anonymous | reply 214 | April 21, 2024 11:35 PM |
that Jessica Walter eyeroll is as tired as you are. R214
by Anonymous | reply 215 | April 21, 2024 11:42 PM |
@r213, Aw, but you're wrong, numbnuts, the story I posted was about illegal influence pedaling...
"Hunter Biden had years of boardroom experience before he was hired at energy firms under investigation, but Kushner “had no experience in private equity, in fact he was so inexperienced that Saudi officials tried to block the transfer of the money until the crown prince overruled them.” After Casar’s questions, Raskin motioned to issue a subpoena to Kushner—but Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, immediately moved to table the subpoena, which was seconded by Comer and other Republicans."
And your bullshit is about nothing, but you're an idiot troll with the IQ of room temperature and we come to expect nothing more out of a moron like you
by Anonymous | reply 216 | April 21, 2024 11:47 PM |
so why should 'we' bother trolling me R216?
by Anonymous | reply 217 | April 22, 2024 1:04 AM |
Do you we know if he enters or gets entered?
by Anonymous | reply 218 | April 22, 2024 1:14 AM |
He gets entered more than more than Shailene R218
by Anonymous | reply 219 | April 22, 2024 1:27 AM |
Did he enter Shailene? Was he attracted to her dick nose?
by Anonymous | reply 220 | April 22, 2024 2:04 AM |
[quote]Q-and hobbies? A- I’m a left wing anarchist This is better than SNL
r189 Huh? I bet I make more money and have a better job than you. 🤣
by Anonymous | reply 221 | April 22, 2024 2:27 AM |
^ Isn't it past your pass-out time?
by Anonymous | reply 222 | April 22, 2024 2:34 AM |
I am a whore, and I would not fuck him.
by Anonymous | reply 223 | April 22, 2024 2:36 AM |
r222 Lol. I don't drink. But I bet you're on your 5th one already.
by Anonymous | reply 224 | April 22, 2024 2:59 AM |
^ You don't drink? And here I was giving you an excuse for your off-the-wall ideas and behavior. If this is all actually you than you're a bigger mess than most people think
by Anonymous | reply 225 | April 22, 2024 4:06 AM |
[quote]R166: What about being an anti-war activist don't you understand? I take no side in Russia v Ukraine. I'm neutral and anti-war and against American meddling and profits for the arms dealers at the expense of the Ukrainian people.
Yes, you take a very definite side - the side of Vladimir Putin. You parrot his talking points. And you studiously ignore the fact that Russia has attacked Ukraine and is attempting to absorb it (just as Hitler did with various European countries during WWII), and that Putin has made no secret that he has designs on other neighboring nations like Belarus and Poland. He is the aggressor, not Ukraine, and not the US.
Although menluvinguy/R143 did not tag you in his response, you really ought to read it.
𝐏.𝐒.: It is very poor form to try to make what you supposedly 𝑎𝑟𝑒 an argument (in this case, all the '𝐼 𝑎𝑚' statements - '𝐼 𝑎𝑚 an antiwar activist', '𝐼 𝑎𝑚 an anarcho-syndicalist', '𝐼 𝑎𝑚 a manufacturing manager', '𝐼 𝑎𝑚 a leftwing anarchist', etc). None of this can be demonstrated or proven, it does not validate your claims, and none of it has any business being put into play in an argument. Identity claims are among the least credible form of trolling (for example, "I'm an 88-year-old black man who marched with Martin Luther King Jr, and I proudly voted for Donald Trump!) Break yourself of the habit if you can. Make your points without appealing to who or what you are.
Also, your past statements/posting history 𝑎𝑟𝑒 germane to a discussion, and can be cited in response to things you're saying now. It's not something I've generally done in answering you over the years, but it can be by others. Be prepared to own what you've said, and if you recreationally troll, you might consider stopping it.
by Anonymous | reply 227 | April 22, 2024 5:44 AM |
Absolutely correct @ r227. From Bannon's Maxist mouth to God's ears.
by Anonymous | reply 228 | April 22, 2024 6:07 AM |
Yep, R229. A Youtube compilation of clips by media figures being characterized as liars by the uploader's own chyrons is simply propaganda, and isn't worth anyone's time.
Your video is a year old. The charges against Hunter Biden have since fallen apart. It went nowhere. Republicans who went down this rabbit hole have disgraced themselves. Their star witness, Alexander Smirnov, proved to be a liar, a perjurer, and a criminal.
by Anonymous | reply 230 | April 25, 2024 10:57 AM |