Kid Rock is about the best thing on there I hate to say
American Music Awards
|by Anonymous||reply 155||11/18/2012|
|by Anonymous||reply 1||11/21/2010|
This is the official end of the American Music scene. Boy/girl bands and Karaoke singers from here to eternity.
In 5 years, American Idol contestants will look like living Mozarts.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||11/21/2010|
Oh dear, Katy Perry singing live
|by Anonymous||reply 3||11/21/2010|
I love that Katy Perry song (sorry), but NOT when she's singing it live.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||11/21/2010|
r2 - Willow Smith just introduced Justin Beiber, yes this is the end....
|by Anonymous||reply 5||11/21/2010|
"Oh dear, Katy Perry singing live"
There goes my milk. Oh well, I needed some cr%C3%A8me fraiche anyway.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||11/21/2010|
Ugh, Justin looks so lesbianisque.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||11/21/2010|
Love the Katy Perry song, but dear me!
|by Anonymous||reply 8||11/21/2010|
I'm always offended when I see Rhianni and remember how she used that whole trumped up Chris Brown abuse thing - that she instigated - as a platform to stardom.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||11/21/2010|
The AMA are the People's Choice Awards.
Where's Queen Latifah?
|by Anonymous||reply 10||11/21/2010|
Yes, r9. And Rhianna continues to dress like a street hooker.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||11/21/2010|
Wow Katy Perry and Justin Beaver suck big time.%0D %0D It's sad when a boys choir outsings a supposed major star.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||11/21/2010|
No, Miley...don't sing!
|by Anonymous||reply 13||11/21/2010|
Someone forgot to tell Miley that Halloween is over.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||11/21/2010|
How did Rhianna use the Chris Brown situation for her career?
|by Anonymous||reply 15||11/21/2010|
If Kelly Osbourne lost so much weight why are her arms and neck area so fatty?%0D %0D
|by Anonymous||reply 16||11/21/2010|
What was with Samuel L. Jackson dressing like he was going to rake the leaves outside?
|by Anonymous||reply 17||11/21/2010|
At least Pink quit doing that stupid trapeze shit while she's pregnant, but she still didn't even pretend to sing during half of her performance (although it did look like she had a live mic at times).
And "too school for cool"? That's some clever wordplay, Pink!
|by Anonymous||reply 18||11/21/2010|
Is Jada serious with those kids? Jesus
|by Anonymous||reply 19||11/21/2010|
R19, that's because they love to dress their kids in a pretentious manner.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||11/21/2010|
Keri Hilson... look good!!
|by Anonymous||reply 21||11/21/2010|
OMG no one can sing live. They're all awful.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||11/21/2010|
Taylor Swift finally got rid of those damn Dorothy curls. Looks much better.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||11/21/2010|
The Kid Rock song was pretty fucking hot.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||11/21/2010|
Usher is pissed. He has created a monster!
|by Anonymous||reply 25||11/21/2010|
Dude just made that Michael Jackson tribute up off the top of his fucking head.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||11/21/2010|
Jada & Will's kids are FUG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 27||11/21/2010|
LOL...r25, I think so too.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||11/21/2010|
Why is Usher pissed?
|by Anonymous||reply 29||11/21/2010|
Go. A. Way.
This guy is such a little midget fucker.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||11/21/2010|
Wow, Katy was off tonight
|by Anonymous||reply 31||11/21/2010|
GOD R30 HIS FACE IS SO FUCKING HIDEOUS!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 32||11/21/2010|
r30, he is average height at 5' 6".
|by Anonymous||reply 33||11/21/2010|
Katy Perry is off every night. She cannot sing. Miley Cyrus is annoying but she can actually sing.%0D %0D I wish all the Smith would retire already. So sick of them.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||11/21/2010|
shut your ass, r11 Rihanna is dressing like a Caribbean woman
|by Anonymous||reply 35||11/21/2010|
Justin needs vocal lessons badly, the background singers out sang him.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||11/21/2010|
What was Christina Aguilera thinking?%0D %0D She was much too fat in her thighs, stomach, and backside to be wearing that skimpy bathing suit sparkly thing and prancing around as if she has sex appeal!%0D %0D She does not have sex appeal.%0D %0D And the wig was so scraggly.%0D %0D She made a fool out of herself once again.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||11/21/2010|
[quote]Katy Perry is off every night. She cannot sing.
No wonder Katy and Rihanna are best friends... they have something in common
|by Anonymous||reply 38||11/21/2010|
Christina A. got fat.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||11/21/2010|
Usher was great
|by Anonymous||reply 40||11/21/2010|
Wow, such horrible singing tonight, worse was the Bieb.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||11/21/2010|
Where's Gloria Estefan?
|by Anonymous||reply 42||11/21/2010|
[quote]Christina A. got fat.
She did, but you know what - I give her a break. Whatever that marriage was about, she is not going through the happiest time in her life right now. I would hate it if someone picked on my appearance when I'm depressed.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||11/21/2010|
Xtina may not be as hot as she used to be but she still sounds great!
r42, it's 2010 not 1985. I love Gloria but when was the last time she had a hit?
|by Anonymous||reply 44||11/21/2010|
I agree, when I lost my bf of 2 years, I lost about 20 pounds.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||11/21/2010|
R43, she didn't need to do that silly faux sexy singing/dancing number in that ridiculous bathing suit.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||11/21/2010|
Christina did not sound that good, R44.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||11/21/2010|
Chris Brown is a piece of shit. He's lucky Jay Z didn't have him killed. Rhianna didn't use the "beating as stepping stone for her career." You obviously have some weird issues.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||11/21/2010|
Katy Perry can't sing at all. I was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt after that shitty performance on X Factor, but tonight sealed it, she's an autotune overproduced faker. I can't believe she didn't do something after X Factor to make it less obvious (other than trying to hide behind a whole choir of children and entering on a large sun.)
The Band Perry guys just spoke and purses fell from both of their mouths.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||11/21/2010|
I wish I cared about one of these people. Beyond the fact that many of these performer aren't good singers to begin with, the AMA's sound system sucks more than other award shows.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||11/21/2010|
[quote] Rhianna didn't use the "beating as stepping stone for her career." You obviously have some weird issues.
Please. It got her sympathetic press for weeks, if not months. Everybody felt sorry for her. And then she does a song with Eminim about domestic violence? Add to that the very real possibility that she instigated the argument with Brown. She milked the shit out of her teeny weeny bruise.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||11/21/2010|
This Santana-Rossdale Bang a Gong bit isn't nearly as catchy as that Santana collaboration bit Give Me Your Heart Make It Real Or Let's Forget About It with that Matchbox 20 queen from a few years ago.
Still, it's nice of Carlos to keep giving work to closeted singers.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||11/21/2010|
TO: [R43] Oh, sweetie, I totally understand "Break Up Fat," but I would not dance on a stage in bad leotard outfit if that was the case. Just saying.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||11/21/2010|
Gavin was Gay with a capital "G."
|by Anonymous||reply 54||11/21/2010|
I like Enrique Igelsias, Rihanna, Black Eyed Peas, and Kid Rock. Everything else was shit. And while Taylor Swift looked a lot better, she looks like she is anorexic. Seriously. Way tooo skinny.%0D %0D When I think that Jay Z is Rihanna's manager, I have to wonder if he tapped that. It looks like she is getting her "choreography" from Beyonce's teacher. Only, Rihanna knows how to move sexy. With Beyonce it's just gross.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||11/21/2010|
|by Anonymous||reply 56||11/21/2010|
R51, you're a real dipshit. I don't want to derail this thread but I wonder what your past is like that you completely rewrote this situation to fit into to some weird anti-woman or anti-victim screed. You've got problems. Maybe someone needs to beat them out of you. You appear to be asking for it.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||11/21/2010|
Re: Rhianna--yes, she DID milk that "domestic abuse" bullshit. She even had the nerve to go on 20/20 about it, and then turns around and releases a song with lyrics like "I like it when you pull my hair," which is clearly about rough sex.
Boy, it's scraping the bottom of the barrel when a former pimp and no-talent like Kid Rock is the best musical act on an awards show.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||11/21/2010|
Justin Beber (not sure of the spelling)????? WTF
|by Anonymous||reply 59||11/21/2010|
I thought almost every number was great, exciting, and produced creatively.%0D %0D Great fun night!
|by Anonymous||reply 60||11/21/2010|
WTF? Justin beating Usher and Eminem, on what planet?
|by Anonymous||reply 61||11/21/2010|
Did Celine show up?
|by Anonymous||reply 62||11/21/2010|
[quote]Please. It got her sympathetic press for weeks, if not months. Everybody felt sorry for her. And then she does a song with Eminim about domestic violence? Add to that the very real possibility that she instigated the argument with Brown. She milked the shit out of her teeny weeny bruise.
True, she did receive sympathetic press, but the Chris Brown incident was after she was fairly established. She had sold millions prior to the incident. Not saying it didn't give her a boost, but it hardly made her.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||11/21/2010|
Kid Rock does have musical skills, which is more than can be said for the army of the tone deaf that paraded itself across the AMA stage tonight.
It makes one wish for the '80's again. Rihanna makes Jody Watley seem like Jessye Norman in comparison.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||11/21/2010|
The funniest part of Bieber winning - he walks by Katy Perry's creepy minister father, Katy, Russell, and Russell's huge bodyguard Danny and feels pressured into doing handshake-fistbump-hugs with them all. Then he calls up Usher to the stage!
|by Anonymous||reply 65||11/21/2010|
This is the lamest show I've ever seen, including several VMAs.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||11/21/2010|
And didn't Miss Katy Perry look all pissy about not winning!
|by Anonymous||reply 67||11/21/2010|
Did anyone see Janet Jackson?
|by Anonymous||reply 68||11/21/2010|
Rhianna seems like a tough bitch. I think she probably gave as good as she got. She is not a good role model for young women in any way at all. The fact that she is best friends with la Perry is bad enough.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||11/21/2010|
Yeah I'm sure Chris Brown was just as bruised and bloodied after their fight.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||11/21/2010|
I thought it was one of the best shows ever - lots of excitement and fun music.%0D %0D The audience was loving it.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||11/21/2010|
Loved the Burlesque song by Xtina, but girlfriend looked like Paula Abdul performing Vibeology...
|by Anonymous||reply 72||11/21/2010|
Am I wrong to think Usher has fucked Justin Beiber in the ass?
|by Anonymous||reply 73||11/21/2010|
R72? Christina looked like an overweight two-bit whore who walks the streets for money - and like a mother who doesn't know she has lost her sex appeal.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||11/21/2010|
Who was the guy with Avril? Seemed pretty gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||11/21/2010|
|by Anonymous||reply 76||11/21/2010|
Ewwww, r73! I'd rather French kiss a dog.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||11/21/2010|
Poor Xtina. I finally figured out the inspiration for her new look:
|by Anonymous||reply 78||11/21/2010|
Avril Lavigne is dating Brody Jenner.%0D %0D This show was atrocious. I hate these fucking awards shows that they invent where "the people" vote. That's why Justin Beiber beats out Eminem.%0D %0D This show is tired. At least at the Grammys they do inventive things. Sometimes.%0D %0D Damn, but Enrique Iglesias is hot!
|by Anonymous||reply 79||11/21/2010|
Who the fuck is that fugly bitch r78?
|by Anonymous||reply 80||11/21/2010|
Omg, Michael Buble mentioning his gay fans! He's so hot.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||11/21/2010|
The Grammys have been consisting HORRID for a good number of years.%0D %0D The AMA's tonight were very inventive. The audience was having a blast, and it was one great creatively produced number after another.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||11/21/2010|
I'm getting tired of seeing all this acts with the overly staged numbers. I say that as someone who grew up with MTV. There's nothing special about it anymore.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||11/21/2010|
No Enrique Iglesias talk? He looked hot!
|by Anonymous||reply 84||11/21/2010|
Enrique Iglesias is hot, but the big fake wig somewhat diminishes his hotness for me.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||11/21/2010|
WHO IS THIS AMA PR CUNT POSTING HOW GREAT THE SHOW WAS ON THE FUCKING THREAD??????????
STFU PR WHORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 86||11/21/2010|
Kei$ha just loves to effeminate men dancers.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||11/21/2010|
Beiber is Usher's "protege". Of course, he's fucked him.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||11/21/2010|
Hey, what do think Kei$ha's cunt looks like?
|by Anonymous||reply 89||11/21/2010|
Is effeminate a verb now?
|by Anonymous||reply 90||11/21/2010|
Christina Aguilera was so embarassing. She obviously has really poor judgment.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||11/21/2010|
I thought Christina actually looked better with some meat on her bones. She usually looks so damn bony.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||11/21/2010|
Like open camel toe.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||11/21/2010|
Christina has not looked 'bony' for about eight years!
|by Anonymous||reply 94||11/21/2010|
NO NKOTBSB talk?
I liked watching the gay one move, with his chubby thighs and slight gut, sexy daddy.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||11/21/2010|
Loved their number, R95!
|by Anonymous||reply 96||11/21/2010|
Who knew Nick Carter had the most talent in that group?
|by Anonymous||reply 97||11/21/2010|
I got a kick out of watching the singer from Train singing to the Backstreet boys/NKOTB in the audience.
Justin Bieber is going to have a real swell head tomorrow.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||11/21/2010|
"Justin Bieber is going to have a real swell head tomorrow."
Usher will take care of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||11/21/2010|
About Rhianna - if you remember, her interview on 20/20 was probably her only interview when she talked about this situation - she kept silent before that, and she told everything and answered all questions in this interview -I think with Diane Sawyer. I found this interview very impressive, honest and articulate, and I really like her ever since and have lot of respect for her. I don't think she milked this story, she kept her silence for very long time and did huge interview only before promotional tour for her album started. As for song with Eminem - considering this incident with Brown hapened years ago, and very few people still care about it, I don't think she is milking her abuse for attention. She just wanted to do a potential hit with one of the most famous and succesful artists. She should refuse offers like that just because she also was victim of domestic violence? This is ridiculous.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||11/21/2010|
lol oh dear god
|by Anonymous||reply 101||11/21/2010|
Now that Justin Bieber is artist of the year, Bristol will win DWTS...the sign of the times.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||11/21/2010|
I wonder if Chris Brown's career will ever fully recover. He doesn't seem too bright with his rants and lashing out at Oprah and Sandra Rose. He should've kept his mouth shut for awhile. Let's not forget his stupid BET performance.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||11/21/2010|
Was Kylie there?
|by Anonymous||reply 104||11/21/2010|
Chris Brown has a new song, Yeah 3x, that radio seems to be embracing.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||11/21/2010|
Just a matter of time r102 before ASS will win Best Picture Oscar. Just a matter of time...%0D %0D Just a few years ago people would laugh at the possibity of Beiber being nominated for Best New Artist Grammy but watch it happen...
|by Anonymous||reply 106||11/21/2010|
Worst singer wins Artist of the Year? Who are the actual voters? This is insane!
|by Anonymous||reply 107||11/21/2010|
You guys do know that there is a song on %0D Rihanna's new album called "S & M" in which she sings of the delights of whips and cuffs.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||11/21/2010|
Yes because liking S&M in the bedroom is the same as your boyfriend beating the shit out of you. Exactly the same.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||11/21/2010|
[quote] About Rhianna - if you remember, her interview on 20/20 was probably her only interview when she talked about this situation - she kept silent before that
But her agents, managers and PR people were busy planting stories in every entertainment publication and TV celebrity gossip show. Because she was just as much guilty of domestic violence as him, but they wanted her version of the story to get out first.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||11/21/2010|
Media buzz was insane, but doesn't necessary mean she and her people were behind it. She was incredibly upset when pictures of her beaten face were leaked because of police (stay classy, TMZ). There were a lot of information, opinions, but she was silent in all that till this big interview.
As for domestic violence from her - where this story came from? I never saw pictures of Chris Brown beaten, with shapes of wheel on his face. But I saw her pictures. And Brown himself and his side acted just afwul in this story. Not only he never showed any remorse, he also leaked their personal pictures, trying to stop her from going to court. I believe those reports about her being guilty of domestic violence probably also came from him and his side. He's pathetic asshole and I hope his career will never recover.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||11/21/2010|
It's different. Totally different.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||11/21/2010|
So did Pink steal her song "Raise Your Glass" from Katy Perry? Or did Katy steal "Firework" from Pink?
|by Anonymous||reply 113||11/22/2010|
Sue me, I actually like Ke$ha.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||11/22/2010|
Gawd, BEP were terrible.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||11/22/2010|
AMAs needed more American Idols. They can sing, at least the old school ones like Kelly, Carrie and Clay sure can. The new seasons suck as bad as pop radio.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||11/22/2010|
"Was Kylie there?"
No, she had the good sense to stay away because she knew all the acts were shit.
Justin Fuck wins four awards? For what? A fucking pudding-bowl haircut? It certainly wasn't for any singing talent.
How does a skag like Avril Lavigne land a decent looking guy like Brody Jenner (yeah, he's a tool, but a pretty one)?
And the last word on Rhianna--she got beaten up by her boyfriend, and then turns around and releases songs about rough sex. She's a) stupid or b) a hypocrite. Oh, and she can't sing, either.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||11/22/2010|
You are stupid if you don't see difference between rough sex and domestic violence.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||11/22/2010|
But yeah, she's not the best singer.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||11/22/2010|
R118/119, kiss my ass--who the hell are you calling stupid? The point is that this young woman is selling the idea that love includes physical pain to kids. The average age of a Rhianna fan is about 10.
Don't even get me started on the fact that she also has a fascination with semi-automatic weapons.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||11/22/2010|
Hello, Maude Flanders! Such a touching care about kids. If you don't like Rhianna - whatever. But you can dislike her without trying to justify domestic violence.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||11/22/2010|
Yes, r116! Clay can sing in his new whispery, breathy way!
|by Anonymous||reply 122||11/22/2010|
I see that little shit Beiber's voice is finally breaking.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||11/22/2010|
Are we sure Christina isn't pregnant? I saw her on Ellen this week and she looked pregnant to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||11/22/2010|
Is Ke$ha a virgin?
|by Anonymous||reply 125||11/22/2010|
R122, you haven't heard the new album. His voice has power and texture that rivals the greats. Clay's voice is the best male voice in decades, maybe ever.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||11/22/2010|
Jack Jones has the best male voice ever.%0D %0D I agree that Clay does have an excellent voice.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||11/22/2010|
[quote]Justin Fuck wins four awards? For what? A fucking pudding-bowl haircut? It certainly wasn't for any singing talent%0D %0D LOL! Unfortunately, it's probably true. Every performer has some sort of a gag. For Justin Bieber, it's the bowl haircut, and that's what is part of his appeal. He's like the Jennifer Anistan of Music.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||11/22/2010|
I'm glad Muse won best alternative band.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||11/22/2010|
I think Kelly Clarkson has a great voice, she could blow all those performers last night out of the water.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||11/22/2010|
Janelle Monae could blow all those poseurs out of the water.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||11/22/2010|
Ratings were way down this year. The demographic most likely to watch the show this year was the preteen crowd, those between the ages of 2 - 11. These kids are the ones who buy most the music today. They tend to be too young to do the illegal downloads their older brothers and sisters do. Justin, Katie Peery,%0D the Swift girl and Kesha are these kids' idols.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||11/22/2010|
You're an idiot, R132. There is no measured 2-11 year old demographic. Stop fucking making shit up.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||11/22/2010|
Age 2-11 demographic? My kid is 6 and she doesn't want to listen to that crap or watch those performers on TV, she would rather be watching iCarly.%0D %0D
|by Anonymous||reply 134||11/22/2010|
R133, I do know what I'm talking about. Do you think every sub-audience is not measured by the networks and by advertisers?%0D %0D See the attached please. %0D %0D In the old days, Bobby Sherman, etc sold records, for sure. But no one pretended the%0D teenybopper faves merited awards.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||11/22/2010|
I actually work in market research and yes, there definitely is a 2-11 demographic.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||11/22/2010|
Fine. So I was wrong. Fuck you anyway. LOL.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||11/22/2010|
It's sad that today's audiences have excepted mediocrity.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||11/22/2010|
LOL, did you write that on purpose, r138?
|by Anonymous||reply 139||11/22/2010|
Katy Perry was horrible.
Chris Brown's texts were from a dude, if I recall correctly.
The whole thing was a cover up.
The guy has major issues.
She played the victim (she was).
She is cashing in.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||11/22/2010|
I blame this whole phenomenon of singers who can't sing on Madonna. Seriously. And I'm a fan.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||11/22/2010|
How long can Usher get away with his poor imitation of Michael Jackson?%0D %0D His concert is just lipsyching to autotuned%0D recordings. I remember when black guys could actually sing. But yesterday's truths no longer hold.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||11/22/2010|
THe AMAs may get cancelled. Ratings were way down this year with Justin Beiber and the prepubes. The producers went way overboard making the show "family friendly". WTF! What ever happened to rock and roll? %0D %0D Adam and Gaga, we missed you!
|by Anonymous||reply 143||11/22/2010|
Here's the link about canceling the show.%0D Poor Dick Clark. How will he live if this show is dropped?
|by Anonymous||reply 144||11/22/2010|
Some comments from my favorite lezes.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||11/22/2010|
Why did any of you bother watching? Unless you actually like any of the performers, don't watch.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||11/22/2010|
Seacrest must be shittin' brix.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||11/22/2010|
What this got to do with Seacrest? And nah, don't think it's going to be cancelled - it's still very high-profile event.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||11/22/2010|
He's the producer. Well, co-producer, but he's the producer.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||11/22/2010|
R146, it was exciting with creatively designed elaborate production numbers -%0D %0D and most of the performers were at the top of their game and many did such an exciting job that they received standing ovations -%0D %0D the audience loved the performances and were having a blast.%0D %0D It was a great party.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||11/22/2010|
Here's what Dave Stewart, ex-Eurythmics, had to say about the AMAs:
|by Anonymous||reply 151||11/23/2010|
|by Anonymous||reply 152||11/18/2012|
|by Anonymous||reply 153||11/18/2012|
I finally found the article r151 tried to link, for anyone interested:
|by Anonymous||reply 154||11/18/2012|
Have you been searching since r151 posted, r154? Two years ago?
|by Anonymous||reply 155||11/18/2012|