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Who was Liz Smith''s long-term partner?? Was it Iris Love?

Or was that just a "close friendship"? She treats her like a roommate in her bio.

by Anonymousreply 7802/09/2013

It was Iris Love, who was a member of the Guggenheim family. She also discovered the ruins of the Temple of Diana in Turkey.

by Anonymousreply 110/08/2010

I thought I heard she went out with Jessica Savitch, doomed newscaster.

by Anonymousreply 210/08/2010

I could be totally making this up, but I thought it was Cynthia McFadden from Nightline.

by Anonymousreply 310/08/2010

Liz Smith's LTR was with Iris Love Jessica Savitch's partner was Sue Simmons, now the anchor at WNBC TV in NYC Cynthia McFadden is not gay, but she was rumored to be the illegitimate daughter of Katharine Hepburn and Spencer Tracy (which of course is bogus since both were gay). Are we clear now?

by Anonymousreply 410/08/2010

R4 thinks gay people can't reproduce.

by Anonymousreply 510/08/2010


Don't you think it just a bit far out that Cynthia McFadden was the executrix of Katherine Hepburn's will and has a son who she named after Spencer Tracy?

I mean, there is something to the rumor, maybe?

by Anonymousreply 610/08/2010

So who is Diane Sawyer's lady?

by Anonymousreply 710/08/2010

So Liz is in the closet? Roommate? Right.

by Anonymousreply 810/08/2010

WAS Iris Love? They broke up or is she dead?

by Anonymousreply 910/08/2010

Who raised McFadden?

by Anonymousreply 1010/08/2010

McFadden befriended Hepburn in her later years, but there was never any blood connection.

by Anonymousreply 1110/08/2010

Anyone know how this rumor came about?

by Anonymousreply 1210/08/2010

cynthia mcfadden is not gay on a technicality. she is a big dyke and has had affairs with women

by Anonymousreply 1310/08/2010

I mean the McFadden rumor, sorry.

by Anonymousreply 1410/08/2010

[quote]cynthia mcfadden is not gay on a technicality. she is a big dyke and has had affairs with women.

OOOO I love this shit! Who are some of her lovers?

by Anonymousreply 1510/08/2010

Diane Sawyer's is a lesbian?.

by Anonymousreply 1610/08/2010

I thought Iris Love was somebody from "Another World"

by Anonymousreply 1710/08/2010

Yes, she is with Cynthia (or was last I knew). And they are deeply closeted. I have a friend who had a fairly close working relationship with Cynthia. One day she happened up Liz and Cynthia strolling together on the Upper West Side -- I believe Cynthia's son may have been in a stroller at the time -- and at the sight of my friend they immediately proceeded to pretend they weren't together. Cynthia stopped to chat while Liz non-chalantly continued on.

by Anonymousreply 1810/09/2010

[quote] Diane Sawyer is a lesbian? Just ask mystery writer Patricia Cornwell

by Anonymousreply 1910/09/2010

R17%0D %0D %0D Beverlee McKinsey is spinning in her grave.

by Anonymousreply 2010/09/2010

R19%0D %0D Diane is not with Patricia. This week Real Estalker had the info on a Boston apartment Patricia bought with her partner. The woman listed as her partner was not Diane.%0D %0D Either Diane/Patricia split or the rumor of their relationship was bogus.%0D %0D I'm going with option #2.

by Anonymousreply 2110/09/2010

Liz also had a longtime affair with Press Agent Diane Judge. This was before Iris. Diane was a piss, I often wonder what happened to her.

by Anonymousreply 2210/09/2010

from Diane Judge, 2008:

by Anonymousreply 2310/09/2010

Liz Smith loves men, just ask her. She ain't no lezzie. And she's a proud native Texan so she cain't be no lezzie.

by Anonymousreply 2410/09/2010

Liz bump

by Anonymousreply 2510/09/2010

Kaye Ballard and Liz were also very close at one time in the 50s....

by Anonymousreply 2610/09/2010

Wasn't Iris a dog breeder?

by Anonymousreply 2710/09/2010

[quote]Yes, she is with Cynthia (or was last I knew). And they are deeply closeted.

I have a friend who had a fairly close working relationship with Cynthia. One day she happened up Liz and Cynthia strolling together on the Upper West Side -- I believe Cynthia's son may have been in a stroller at the time -- and at the sight of my friend they immediately proceeded to pretend they weren't together. Cynthia stopped to chat while Liz non-chalantly continued on.

Liz Smith and Cynthia Mcfadden?????

by Anonymousreply 2810/09/2010

Liz used to gush over Malcom Forbes's relationship with Liz Taylor.%0D %0D Pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 2910/09/2010

For what it's worth I did see Liz and Cynthia at a play together several years ago.

by Anonymousreply 3010/09/2010

a great many long-term husbands, wives and partners are eventually treated as rommates.

by Anonymousreply 3110/09/2010

The rumor about Patricia and Diana was a while back before she hooked up with the woman she moved to Boston with.

by Anonymousreply 3210/10/2010

Speaking of the Tracey/Hepburn love child. Wouldn't that have been the girl in GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER (can't remember her name)? I remember the storey that she was Hepburn's niece but looking back on it now she looks too much like Kate NOT to be her daughter.%0D Anyone????

by Anonymousreply 3310/10/2010

Cynthia McFadden runs with the Rosie/Liza set in New York. I doubt she's with old Liz Smith but she pings off the charts.

by Anonymousreply 3410/10/2010

I always thought Cynthia was gay, I'd be really surprised if she isn't, like r34 says, she pings off the charts.

Is that Rosie Perez or Rosie O'Donnell r34?

by Anonymousreply 3510/10/2010

Here's a section from a New York magazine profile of Liz from 2000, when her memoir, Natural Blonde, was published. Apparently, in the book she writes about every "straight" crush she ever had, but is a lot less forthcoming about her relationships with women -- such as her 15-year partnership with Love.


[. . .] when she [Smith] finally gets to her well-known relationship with archaeologist Iris Love at page 272, she is stingy in her depiction of a live-in arrangement that lasted fifteen years. Liz and Iris's relationship was well known enough in certain New York circles that in the eighties, publicist Bobby Zarem, the only enemy Liz hasn't made nice with, sent out 400 wedding announcements, to which some recipients actually responded with gifts. (One Hollywood producer reportedly sent the couple hers and hers towels.) The book makes no mention of this infamous incident. "I resented it a lot because my mother was still alive -- it was disgusting," is all Liz will say.

For years, Liz and Iris were inseparable, making the rounds of society parties and reading novels together in the car as they drove back and forth to their second home, in Vermont. But in the book, Smith describes Iris as a "pal" who moved into her apartment because it "was in Manhattan."

It's a distant and rather joyless take on their years together. Iris doesn't like it, either, admits Liz. "But look," she says, "everybody edits themselves. I don't think I'm under any obligation to tell every intimate thing that I ever did. Or said or felt. And, well, maybe I feel guilty. I always felt I sort of abandoned her . . . I think I'm a serial relationship failure. Iris stuck around with me for a long time, but I'm not good at commitment, I guess."

She looks down at her lap. "I also didn't want to go into any romantic details, because it wasn't really like that. That really wasn't the point of it . . . You're probably right: I don't think I dealt with that part very straightforwardly." **************************

by Anonymousreply 3610/10/2010

Thanks for publishing that r36, I always heard she was self-loathing and that piece there proves it. I always love the part where people say why should I tell every little detail. You're writing a autobiography for one.

And guilt for leaving her, well how about guilt for making a 15 year relationship sound like you were just friends.

by Anonymousreply 3710/11/2010

Liz has always been a self-loathing lesbian. And it's ironic that a gossip columnist is so guarded about her own personal life.%0D %0D I think that Ann Richards, who was thick as thieves with Liz and Molly Ivins, was a lesbian. Her alcoholism was probably due to the stress of being in the closet. Everyone in Austin, TX considered her to be gay when she was governor.

by Anonymousreply 3810/11/2010

Didn't Liz learn the "ropes" from closeted lesbian PR queen Pat Newcomb?

by Anonymousreply 3910/11/2010

Liz is just typical of the elderly lesbian (or gay guy) pushing 90...much more concerned about what "society" will think than about living an honest life.

by Anonymousreply 4010/11/2010

I don't blame her for her old old fashioned 'privacy' issues, But when she writes shit like this, I'm gagging:%0D %0D >>Sinatra the thug has morphed into her latest crush. "I had a feeling for what it would be like to be in his strong and capable arms . . . his beautiful French cuffs, fantastic silk tie, wonderful hands with clean strong nails and sexy wrists. (I'd always been a sucker for wrists.) I loved his smell, the scars on his face.

by Anonymousreply 4110/11/2010

I give her big points for admitting as much as she did on r36 post.

by Anonymousreply 4210/11/2010

R38, shut your fat ass know nothing trap. I knew them all well, and frankly Ann and Molly weren't that close. Molly was much closer to Dave Richards, Ann's husband. Ann was NOT a lesbian in any way and nobody who actually knew her thinks she was. SHE WAS A GRANDMOTHER FOR GOD SAKE. People like you make me urp

by Anonymousreply 4310/11/2010

Diane Sawyer and Mike Nichols have a classic marriage of convenience. Mike was, shall we say, less than discreet in his dalliances with young men, and while I don't know that he was about to be outed in a major way, their marriage in 1988 was rather hastily cobbled together. Odd, too, since Nichols fathered three kids in three marriages.

Diane was linked to two men before Nichols, Frank Gannon and Richard Holbrook, both DC types, but I've never heard anything about either of them being gay.

by Anonymousreply 4410/11/2010

My neighbor has 5 grandkids and he is gayer than a basket of kittens.

by Anonymousreply 4510/11/2010

Puleeeze, r44. Did you know that Dianne was also linked with closet case RICHARD NIXON?%0D %0D I want to know why Liz Smith devoted an entire chapter in her book to Lena Horne.

by Anonymousreply 4610/11/2010

Good question, r46.

by Anonymousreply 4710/11/2010

[quote]Ann was NOT a lesbian in any way and nobody who actually knew her thinks she was. SHE WAS A GRANDMOTHER FOR GOD SAKE.%0D %0D FYI, Grannies lick pussy, too.

by Anonymousreply 4810/11/2010

R21, Patricia & Diane broke up years ago.

by Anonymousreply 4910/11/2010

Details on their relationship, R49?

by Anonymousreply 5010/11/2010

I'd like all you worshippers of the rich to tell me what either Liz Smith or Dr. Iris Love has done for the gay community with all their loot. Indeed, isn't Dr. Love a textbook example of a rich person who could have done huge things for gay rights, but she couldn't be bothered with the hoi polloi?

by Anonymousreply 5110/14/2010

Could some witty/creative individual please write something similar to what's in R41 as "Liz Smith" HONESTLY describing how she felt in the presence of a beautiful woman like Elizabeth Taylor or Lena Horne? %0D %0D Liz is lacking balls in that area, and desperately trying to prove her heterosexual credentials...I'd like to read some truth, even if it's made up.

by Anonymousreply 5210/14/2010

Liz had the hots for both Liz Taylor and Barbra Streisand to the point of stalking.

by Anonymousreply 5310/14/2010

Details, R53?

by Anonymousreply 5410/14/2010

Neither Liz Taylor nor Babs got an entire chapter in Liz Smith's autobio like Lena Horne did.%0D %0D Read her gushing in a book review:

by Anonymousreply 5510/15/2010


by Anonymousreply 5610/16/2010

McFadden and Smith are discussed as buying a house together in William J. Mann's biography of Hepburn. When McFadden's immaculately conceived baby popped out, she named him Spencer, claiming it was Hepburn's idea. Apparently Cindy worked hard at linking herself to Hepburn.

by Anonymousreply 5710/01/2011

HMMM....Liz Smith, Ann Richards, Iris Love, Cynthia Mcfaddan, Diane Sawyer, Holland Taylor...

by Anonymousreply 5810/01/2011

Liz Smith used to always try and eat Ann Richiards pussy, but Ann wasnt a dyke.

by Anonymousreply 5910/01/2011

Is McFadden's husband gay? What does he get out of this arrangement?

by Anonymousreply 6010/01/2011

How much pussy has Liz licked? Did she munch her way to the top?

by Anonymousreply 6110/01/2011

Holland Taylor was supposedly involved with Diane Judge at one time, but have she and Liz ever been a couple?

by Anonymousreply 6210/02/2011

Holland Taylor is a LESBIAN?


by Anonymousreply 6310/02/2011

Good Lord, R63, turn in your gay card immediately.

by Anonymousreply 6410/02/2011

Liz Smith, you mistreated me in your bio, you physically abused me with that callous font.

by Anonymousreply 6510/02/2011

[quote]How much pussy has Liz licked?

184.453464, to be precise

by Anonymousreply 6610/02/2011

Liz was also "close" to Connie Ford and Jackie Babbin, two old school dykes.

by Anonymousreply 6710/03/2011

R62, get off this forum. Next you'll be surprised that Katharine Hepburn was a lesbian.

by Anonymousreply 6810/03/2011

Is Liz Smith still alive?

by Anonymousreply 6910/03/2011

I had her.

by Anonymousreply 7010/03/2011

[quote] Wasn't Iris a dog breeder?

Yes, R27 , she bred Dachshunds. The kennel name is/was Dachsmith.

by Anonymousreply 7110/03/2011

Sue Simmons also had a relationship with Sara Lee Kessler, later of Channel 9 and NJN, currently on "News 101.9 FM." She married a nice Jewish boy, moved to Jersey, and now has kids.

by Anonymousreply 7210/03/2011

And you know this because....?

by Anonymousreply 7310/04/2011

A friend who worked with them told me at the time.

by Anonymousreply 7410/04/2011

SO...have Liz and Holland done the deed? Liz sure promotes Holland enough to suggest they are more than just casual friends.

by Anonymousreply 7510/05/2011

Bumping uglies bump...

by Anonymousreply 7610/08/2011

Diane Sawyer a lesbian? swooooon.

by Anonymousreply 7702/03/2012

When I was in college in New York City, I interviewed Liz Smith for the campus news magazine. We had lunch at NBC studios cafeteria and she hit on me! By the way, I'm a female.

by Anonymousreply 7802/09/2013
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