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College Girl''s Powerpoint "Fuck List" Goes Viral

Summary: recent female Duke grad creates a detailed Powerpoint presentation rating 13 guys on the lacrosse and baseball teams she slept with on things like size, technique, creativity, etc. The Powerpoint includes facebook pictures and full names, and rates her experiences on a scale of 1 to 10. She sends it to three friends; one friend forwards it without her permission and it immediately goes viral.%0D %0D Apparently the guys (mainly popular sports jocks) and their parents are pissed, the school is pissed, and the woman is sorry for it getting out of hand, but she points out male frats send out lists like this about women all the time. Double standard? Gross invasion of privacy?%0D %0D Of interest here, some of the guys are kind of cute, and some of the descriptions are pretty funny.

by Anonymousreply 47610/29/2010

Parents? Please. These are grown men. They should be more embarrassed hiding behind mama's apron strings than what one skeevy chick thinks of him in bed.

by Anonymousreply 109/30/2010

Why is the one who forwarded it without leave not apologising?

by Anonymousreply 309/30/2010

With the possible exception of the guy in the wrestling singlet, they all look like douchebags.

So, typical Duke students, then.

by Anonymousreply 409/30/2010

The first guy is hot. Is there a photo of the girl? Someone in the comments said she was a fatty.

by Anonymousreply 509/30/2010

Let's not forget all the normal Duke students who get slandered every time something like this happens, VOTN.

by Anonymousreply 609/30/2010

#7 Baseball player Ben Grisz. She said she couldn't walk the next day after he spent the night.

by Anonymousreply 709/30/2010

Aren't they the Duke LaCrosse team involved in that black stripper rape scandal?

Jesus they just don't stay away from trouble over there do they?

by Anonymousreply 809/30/2010

Eww. Slutty girl menstruated on subject #9.

by Anonymousreply 909/30/2010

Who's going to read those pages? What a waste of time writing all that. That alone proves the girl needs to get fucked more.

by Anonymousreply 1009/30/2010

Sounds like subject #3 likes black cock.

by Anonymousreply 1109/30/2010

What a whore.

by Anonymousreply 1209/30/2010

**subject #6

by Anonymousreply 1309/30/2010

We need a photo of The girl - Karen F. Owen So curious, as she goes on and ON about how sexy and beautiful they all think she is. Then again, a straight, horny young guy will say anything to get his deck wet.

by Anonymousreply 1409/30/2010

ahem, I meant DICK wet, not deck.

by Anonymousreply 1509/30/2010

Why does every other post by VotN betray some axe to grind about every college other than his own. Did he not get into the school he wanted?

And why the fuck does he post so much?

by Anonymousreply 1709/30/2010

she's a real size queen for sure

by Anonymousreply 1809/30/2010

Odds on when Mr. Hassan jumps off a bridge?

by Anonymousreply 1909/30/2010

So subject #3 is the winner

by Anonymousreply 2009/30/2010

The world of a heterosexual is a sick and boring life.

by Anonymousreply 2109/30/2010

subject #12

by Anonymousreply 2209/30/2010

Girls these days spreading they legs for every Tom, Dick, and Hassan. Loose. Wide open.

by Anonymousreply 2309/30/2010

Supposedly she's the brunette on the left. Good body (although you can't see her supposedly mesmerizing rack) - meh face.

by Anonymousreply 2409/30/2010

I'm sure her parents are so proud of her.

by Anonymousreply 2509/30/2010

OMG is she dancing with Shuana Sand?

by Anonymousreply 2609/30/2010

The blonde is traditionally "hot." I can see straight guys going for her blonde vampy friend.

But Karen Owen looks like plain titless brunette.

Notice in these stories it is always the less attractive girl in the pics who does the slutty stuff.

by Anonymousreply 2709/30/2010

If I looked like that, I'd be fucking my way across campus, too. I just wouldn't be dumb enough to write about it.

by Anonymousreply 2809/30/2010

See what a pair of kitten heels can get you ladies?

by Anonymousreply 2909/30/2010

I like the writeup of Ben. I looked at the picture and that's just my type. Then I read the review. Damn I'm jealous.

by Anonymousreply 3009/30/2010

I like Enormous Tony (No. 1) and Jake (No. 7.)%0D %0D I wish I had thought to take such detailed notes in my younger, sluttier days.

by Anonymousreply 3109/30/2010

She would've maintained their privacy while still amusing her friends by not including photos and writing aliases (I'm sure she knows what they look like). Or B showing it in person, instead of putting into an easily distributed form. Stupid.

That first guy with the square jaw is hot.

by Anonymousreply 3209/30/2010

I don't mean to be prissy but considering that rape fiasco the LaCrosse players were involved in, didn't this idiot ever think that drinking and fucking around with guys like this might not be a good idea?

by Anonymousreply 3309/30/2010

According to her write-ups on the guys, she spent four years at Shooters. Was she ever sober enough to go to class? Did she pay others to take her tests?

by Anonymousreply 3409/30/2010

I like Jake too.

And violent Will.

by Anonymousreply 3509/30/2010

i lived in a co-ed dorm (in the south of all places) & we had a resident slut whom i shall call gigi. she was about 5'3" and 145# with bleached blonde hair and 1" long dark roots. EVERYBODY hit it b/c it was there. one guy described it as feeling "mouldy." she hit on anything with a dick.

by Anonymousreply 3609/30/2010

Lucky bitch.%0D %0D Damn.%0D %0D I haven't had sex with guys that good looking... well... ever.%0D %0D Bitch.%0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 3709/30/2010

eeeeewwww r36. I can only assume that women like that were molested as children. There's a difference between liking sex and being a cum dump.

by Anonymousreply 3809/30/2010

LOVE. HER. and whoever leaked it. A powerpoint presentation on my fucks. Where to begin ??

by Anonymousreply 3909/30/2010

Scary, scary, scary bitch

by Anonymousreply 4009/30/2010

Can't wait to see the reactions when all of those guys commit suicide.

by Anonymousreply 4109/30/2010

This reminds me of a journal I kept in my 20's. I even had polaroids of several of the guys. Back then it was harmless fun. However, I always played it safe and I never, EVER would think of sharing the info/photos.

Ahhhh, memories. I still have it but have been thinking of getting rid of it.

by Anonymousreply 4209/30/2010

The only ones who'll commit suicide are the ones who were identified as having small dicks. The girl in question will be the one who'll really suffer, as she richly deserves.

by Anonymousreply 4309/30/2010

The pic at R24 confirmed my suspicions.%0D %0D The woman is just a whore, and not an especially pretty or appealing one.

by Anonymousreply 4409/30/2010

Did she carry a backpack full of condoms?

by Anonymousreply 4509/30/2010

Future employers who bother to google will find this interesting. Not that it should affect her employability, but it will. %0D %0D Maybe for the better at the right kind of place.

by Anonymousreply 4609/30/2010

I expected her to be stunning after reading her 'thesis'.

by Anonymousreply 4709/30/2010

The best has taste, I would totally be friends with her. I love sluts.

by Anonymousreply 4809/30/2010

Some of those guys are stunning.%0D

by Anonymousreply 4909/30/2010

How does something feel "moldy", R36?

by Anonymousreply 5009/30/2010

I always tend to feel bad for the people involved in such incidents. However she really, really did this to herself. Sure she never meant for it to get out, but this is quite the elaborate %E2%80%9Cmock thesis%E2%80%9D. This took time and effort. I actually think I know why she made this %E2%80%94 to feel better about herself after being repeatedly used up. She thought she was getting the last laugh, but now once again the tables have turned on Karen.

As opposed to my original jealously that there were mass hook-ups going on at Duke, I have completely changed my mind. This girl was nothing more than the last train after a night at Shooter%E2%80%99s Saloon in Durham. This was far from anything out of the norm, just this time it was been documented in detail.

I can%E2%80%99t imagine what the reaction would be right now if a comparable list was made by a man. I hear that she has gone into hiding as of this morning when this was leaked. She deleted or blocked all of her social networking accounts.

I honestly felt dirty after reading this whole story. Imagine dating this girl now? Talk about some baggage%E2%80%A6 no way.

by Anonymousreply 5109/30/2010

oh my god, #1 is a GOD!

by Anonymousreply 5209/30/2010

She's a whore darlin'. %0D %0D Seriously, what R51 said about the last train at Shooters.

by Anonymousreply 5309/30/2010

I would need an external harddrive if I did a power point on my fuck buddies and one night stands.

by Anonymousreply 5409/30/2010

she fucking RULES!

by Anonymousreply 5509/30/2010

This is really indefensible. But so hot.

by Anonymousreply 5609/30/2010

The first guy really is stunning, isn't he?

by Anonymousreply 5709/30/2010

Sometimes I REALLY wish I had been born with tits.

by Anonymousreply 5809/30/2010

Why hasn't she figured out that the ones who finished quickly and left were just using her to get their rocks off? This is sad, she most certainly has low self-esteem. And I do think this is a classic example of a double standard. There's no way a big deal would be made of this had it been a guy rating women. At least nowhere as much. Women aren't supposed to objectify men; guys get upset because most straight men aren't that great in bed. On some level they know it, but still are terrified of being told they don't know how to fuck.

by Anonymousreply 5909/30/2010

r58, its seems like that's all that really mattered.

by Anonymousreply 6009/30/2010

Most of the critiques are cut in half. How in the hell do you get the full read?

by Anonymousreply 6109/30/2010

Wow. I googled the first guy Tony McDevitt and he is HOT. Big deal player.

More pics:

by Anonymousreply 6209/30/2010

Actually, r62, he is a lot less hot in some of those google images. He has that neanderthal-jock look.

by Anonymousreply 6309/30/2010

R61, go to the site at link - MUCH easier to read, an none of it is cut off -

by Anonymousreply 6409/30/2010

The horrors of the public finding out that you have tiny meat....

Some of these men are now sobbing.

She was brutal on #15.

by Anonymousreply 6509/30/2010

#9 has BDF

by Anonymousreply 6609/30/2010

R65, there was no #15

by Anonymousreply 6709/30/2010

Much thanks, r64.%0D %0D Now I have my bedtime reading.

by Anonymousreply 6809/30/2010

Her parents must be proud.

by Anonymousreply 6909/30/2010

None of these boys licked pussy?

Pathetic amateurs. She should give women a try.

by Anonymousreply 7009/30/2010

"A leader by example, McDevitt has been instrumental in helping the development of the younger student-athletes on the men%E2%80%99s lacrosse team."

"McDevitt has participated in several community outreach programs, helping the Duke men%E2%80%99s lacrosse team perform over 500 hours to the local Ronald McDonald."

OH the irony!!!!

by Anonymousreply 7109/30/2010

Jesus. Are there at least FIVE guys on the LaCrosse team in her line-up?

That is tacky.

by Anonymousreply 7209/30/2010

r70 So I guess it is true that straight guy today don't eat pussy.

by Anonymousreply 7309/30/2010

In OP's link, #15 is baseball player Alex Hassan.

by Anonymousreply 7409/30/2010

Uh, page 15, I should say.

by Anonymousreply 7509/30/2010

Yeah, R72. You know they all talked about what a slut she was too. No wonder she didn't have any problem getting laid.

by Anonymousreply 7609/30/2010

I would gladly be Tony McDevitt's cum dumpster. So jealous of that bitch.

by Anonymousreply 7709/30/2010

If she'd played her cards right and kept her legs closed she could have scored her MRS degree.

by Anonymousreply 7809/30/2010

Without even trying, she'll get a job in Human Resources at a major company. Then all of her dysfunction will be poured out on everyone below the VP level.

by Anonymousreply 7909/30/2010

{quote]Future employers who bother to google will find this interesting. Not that it should affect her employability, but it will.

It won't affect their employability, but it will close a whole lot of doors for her.

by Anonymousreply 8009/30/2010

R72, she's also hooked up with roommates - like, two days after having sex with the other. And both are aware and fine with it. That's pretty tacky also.%0D %0D Going through the slides is a bit sad - you definitely get the sense of her being "passed around" like some groupie - she shows up at the same bar where the sports teams hang out. Even though she's already had sex with a number of them, she openly flirts and hooks up with additional team members, and no one cares or comments on it, because to them she's just a free fuck. At the same time, she writes about how she doesn't want to appear "desperate and clingy" - so she leaves one guy's room in the middle of the night, and the guy says he appreciates it the next day.%0D %0D The kicker for me is where she refrains from becoming facebook friends with one guy (Subject 9) because she doesn't want to freak him out by appearing "clingy". Like, I'm afraid this superficial online connection, where you probably have more than 1,000 "friends", is TOO INTIMATE and will make you think I'm stalking you and invading your personal space, even though we just had a marathon sex session - seriously?%0D %0D I'm sure you could get an entire gender studies thesis out of this crap.

by Anonymousreply 8109/30/2010

It's amazing how fugly girls can still manage to land hot guys.

by Anonymousreply 8209/30/2010

So teens and young adults today are basically sexual sociopaths.

by Anonymousreply 8309/30/2010

She left her favorite earrings in one guy's room. Girlfriend, get yourself a clutch bag!

by Anonymousreply 8409/30/2010

[quote]It's amazing how fugly girls can still manage to land hot guys.

That needs to be her next thesis. I commend her for "taking one for the team".

by Anonymousreply 8509/30/2010

Is it common for str8 guys to request sex talk involving large black cock from their dates while fucking them? But I guess if you have a tiny white dick as subject #6 does, you must fantasize about big black dick fucking.%0D %0D Black gay dude here. I would love to drop my pants for sunject #6 and watch his eyes glaze over.

by Anonymousreply 8609/30/2010

"Eww. Slutty girl menstruated on subject #9."

Before she "bled all over his bed," she spent time "laughing with him over Asians and break-ups."

This girl has the looks and writing style of a desperate plain Jane. There's absolutely no muscle tone in her legs or arms, and she has a flat ass! Her body looks like a California Roll in that dress.

by Anonymousreply 8709/30/2010

Well, Zach Howell is a happy camper.

by Anonymousreply 8809/30/2010

She is kind of sad to me and hook up #2 sounds like a total asshole. He really treated her like a whore.

by Anonymousreply 8909/30/2010

[quote]Her body looks like a California Roll in that dress.

W&W!!

by Anonymousreply 9009/30/2010

[quote]He really treated her like a whore.

Which is to say that he treated her appropriately.

by Anonymousreply 9109/30/2010

With any luck, though, #2 will get less dates now... He's probably just as douchey as she is.

by Anonymousreply 9209/30/2010

Wow. When she left her earrings behind, Guy No 2 just told her "I'll leave them outside the building for you."

Does she have ANY idea she was just a fuck to these guys? No wonder a lot of them have no respect for women.

by Anonymousreply 9309/30/2010

r34, shut up grandpa. I like me some young hot cock.

by Anonymousreply 9409/30/2010

That guy going on about black dick was called Hassan and he was ethnic. I think he was projecting onto himself like he sees himself as a black guy.

The hysterical part is then end where she say he was small.

by Anonymousreply 9509/30/2010

Her PowerPoint is atrocious.

by Anonymousreply 9609/30/2010

This BITCH RULES!

by Anonymousreply 9709/30/2010

She said Howell was into her enjoyment and wanted to be sure she always came first.

That means he licked pussy or at least the clit and also the reason why he got that amazing score.

by Anonymousreply 9809/30/2010

Some of you DLers, I swear. You'll go to one thread and talk about all the guys you've fucked over the years, but a woman fucks several men and suddenly you're tight-lipped pearl-clutching prudes.

Her list is funny. It's something obviously done pretty quickly to amuse herself and some friends (or ex-friend, in the case of the person who forwarded it on). Plus, this page was genuinely funny. I'd have WW'd it if it was on DL:

by Anonymousreply 9909/30/2010

It sounds like several of them were impressed with her lack of a gag reflex more than her looks. %0D

by Anonymousreply 10010/01/2010

Jeremy Gould Guy No4 talked about the importance of the clitoris. Hopefully he rubbed it for her.

Better than nothing.

by Anonymousreply 10110/01/2010

[quote]Some of you DLers, I swear. You'll go to one thread and talk about all the guys you've fucked over the years

Not with real names and photos...

by Anonymousreply 10210/01/2010

Has the guy at R16 deleted his Facebook profile?

by Anonymousreply 10310/01/2010

So is Alex Hassan the OP of the "Tales of a Tinymeat" thread?

by Anonymousreply 10410/01/2010

Is there a link to the full document or a PDF file that can be downloaded with one click without having to click on all the individual pages one by one?

by Anonymousreply 10510/01/2010

What happened to waiting until marriage?

by Anonymousreply 10610/01/2010

[quote] she's also hooked up with roommates - like, two days after having sex with the other. And both are aware and fine with it.

Why would they care? She's just a cum receptacle to them.

by Anonymousreply 10710/01/2010

Has there ever been a better time to say...%0D %0D JEALOUS, BITCHES???

by Anonymousreply 10810/01/2010

What this shows is that both men and women today don't think there is anything wrong with having multiple sexual partners whom they have no connection to or about the risks of engaging in this type of behavior.

by Anonymousreply 10910/01/2010

I don't know why most of these guys would be pissed though. She portrays most of them as studs except for a couple of them.

by Anonymousreply 11010/01/2010

Here is the twitter for Will McKee guy 9 who she had the period over:

by Anonymousreply 11110/01/2010

R110, of the 13 guys on the list, 7 get good rankings, but 6 get failing grades.

by Anonymousreply 11210/01/2010

"The parents of the athletes are pissed."

At the girl? Or at their sons? What do they think about what their darling sons have been up to?

by Anonymousreply 11310/01/2010

[quote]of the 13 guys on the list, 7 get good rankings, but 6 get failing grades.

Come on, it's Duke. They'll put it on a curve and all 13 will wind up with A's.

by Anonymousreply 11410/01/2010

wow, this chick is the biggest size queen I've ever heard of.

by Anonymousreply 11510/01/2010

Wow so empowering

by Anonymousreply 11610/01/2010

Jake Lemmerman often gets written up in sports articles in the Jewish press as a nice Jewish boy.

Wonder what the community thinks now that he has been revealed to be a dirty boy who likes to ask women if he can cum on them?

by Anonymousreply 11710/01/2010

Did guy No 5 Stephen Coyle drug her or something?

She blacked out and was put in a cab. Then she woke up and remembers nothing but she was in bed with him and had bruises over her:

by Anonymousreply 11810/01/2010

I'm now actually waiting to see if she jumps off a bridge. For real. This is soul destroying.

by Anonymousreply 11910/01/2010

I never liked that phrase "You can't rape the willing" R118. But I think it might apply in this case.

He was a jock and she noticed he tented big the next morning. Certainly qualifies him to be on her list.

by Anonymousreply 12010/01/2010

She is the best type of woman...an unabashed whore, very Samantha Jones-ish. On subect 7 she states that she enjoyed the nature of their "NSA" relationship. No fuss, no muss. Rarely do you hear a girl talk like that.

Also she gets right down to the business and doesn't mince words. She has managed to zero in on some prime, grade A beef and she closed the deal. This girl has gotten more genuinely hotter ass than many queens I know.

She's a gay man in a woman's body. I'd totally be her wingman at Shooters! Hopefully I'd get some of her castoffs...

by Anonymousreply 12110/01/2010

[quote]I'm now actually waiting to see if she jumps off a bridge. For real. This is soul destroying.%0D %0D I think it's absolutely hilarious and I hope she laughs it off. She comes across as bright, funny and relatively self-aware as well as an irrepressible slut, which is why she attracts so much vitriol. Slut-shaming on DataLounge? I expect it on frau-infested sites, but not here.

by Anonymousreply 12210/01/2010

One of the things that probably bothers men is that you have here a woman who is evaluating men in the way they often evaluate women - based on body, sexual stamina, looks, size etc.

Men aren't used to being treated like that.

by Anonymousreply 12310/01/2010

Here's Lemmerman's twit account.

by Anonymousreply 12410/01/2010

I'm soo jealous; I don't know how to use Power Point.

by Anonymousreply 12510/01/2010

At least she is out of school now. If she were still there I'm sure people would have made her life a living hell.

Shame, because this girl is a fucking hero. A legend. I'm actually kinda inspired!

by Anonymousreply 12610/01/2010

lol

by Anonymousreply 12710/01/2010

Wonder what Lemmerman's fans think?

by Anonymousreply 12810/01/2010

Straight woman have had to endure dutifully telling their men "size doesn't matter" for eons. This is like having their worse fears confirmed.

Guys have done stuff like this forever, they do not like the tables being turned on them.

by Anonymousreply 12910/01/2010

"like having their worse fears confirmed."

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 13010/01/2010

Sean Brady in action:

by Anonymousreply 13110/01/2010

I want Ben Griz to fuck me HARD!

by Anonymousreply 13210/01/2010

Zach Howell:

by Anonymousreply 13310/01/2010

Zach is apparently #1 on the list, R133.

by Anonymousreply 13410/01/2010

[quote]One of the things that probably bothers men is that you have here a woman who is evaluating men in the way they often evaluate women - based on body, sexual stamina, looks, size etc.

Except of course for Guy 5 Coyles who fucked her while she was unconscious.

One empowered woman, that Karen Owen.

by Anonymousreply 13510/01/2010

That snatch banged some good cock.

I have to hand it to her.

by Anonymousreply 13610/01/2010

[quote]Wonder what the community thinks now that he has been revealed to be a dirty boy who likes to ask women if he can cum on them?

He asked didn't he?

by Anonymousreply 13710/01/2010

Zach Howell sounds like an amazing fuck. I was getting turned on just by reading her "research data" on him.

This whole thing is pretty awesome. I love that someone that most would just write off as a athlete groupie chick turned the tables on the men and objectified then in a way that they have been doing to women since colleges first went co-ed. There are so many fraternities around the nation with similar "fuck lists".

by Anonymousreply 13810/01/2010

Zach Howell is the HOTNESS! Imagine getting old school rapped to while you're getting fucked in the shower and the guy INSISTING that YOU cum first.

HEAVEN!

by Anonymousreply 13910/01/2010

Jake Lemmerman sounds Bi. He wanted to know about her hook-up with Sean Brady and then asks "so you both want my D". Hot.

by Anonymousreply 14010/01/2010

I love her.

It really sucks for the few guys who got bad scores, and it really sucks for the guy who she described as unwrapping a Christmas present and being disappointed -- A great body with the smallest "penile structure."

But, overall it was pretty funny

by Anonymousreply 14110/01/2010

[quote]Slut-shaming on DataLounge? I expect it on frau-infested sites, but not here.

Ah, you haven't been here for long. This thread is mild compared to some. At least today we're seeing some genuine admiration for a woman who is proud of her work mixed in with the "she's just a slut cum receptacle stupid WHORE!" types.

by Anonymousreply 14210/01/2010

She's out of school? So does that mean she's working? What do her employers and coworkers think about all this?

by Anonymousreply 14310/01/2010

R143, I can imagine in some work places, it will be a mark against her, in others people will laugh if off.

There really isn't any shame anymore. Her "Fuck List" will probably be usurped in the next year or so by some woman who does the same thing but actually has video footage of herself fucking the guys. Complete with a poll for viewers.

by Anonymousreply 14410/01/2010

Anyone know anything about the "friend" who sent this viral? I wonder what set her off that she felt this should be shared with the world.

by Anonymousreply 14510/01/2010

So where is she today? Any sightings?

by Anonymousreply 14610/01/2010

Within a month there will be a porn video called "Fuck List" about a college co-ed who takes it upon herself to stand up to the double standard of college guys objectifying women, and who writes a fake thesis about the 15 guys she proceeds to fuck and suck in the movie.

by Anonymousreply 14710/01/2010

I deserve that R130.

p.s. Learn how to quote.

by Anonymousreply 14810/01/2010

[quote]Within a month there will be a porn video called "Fuck List" about a college co-ed who takes it upon herself to stand up to the double standard of college guys objectifying women, and who writes a fake thesis about the 15 guys she proceeds to fuck and suck in the movie.

This sounds incredibly hot.

by Anonymousreply 14910/01/2010

[quote]This sounds incredibly hot.

Only if it was acted out by the original participants. No one wants to see porn actors.

by Anonymousreply 15010/01/2010

Viral? Probably the Herpes.

by Anonymousreply 15110/01/2010

Can someone explain the appeal of lacrosse? I don't get it. They look like dorks on those outfits.

by Anonymousreply 15210/01/2010

So she's had sex with at least 13 men according to that list, and maybe others who aren't on it?

Yeah, she should check herself for STD's after being with all those athletes.

by Anonymousreply 15310/01/2010

I have never been a slut. I'm an odd gay man who loves monogamy. But I love this girl. She's funny, owns her sexuality, and has fun doing it.

by Anonymousreply 15410/01/2010

She's frigid, right?

by Anonymousreply 15510/01/2010

Can she still wear white at her wedding?

by Anonymousreply 15610/01/2010

Aww. Here is the LaCrosse team at the White House:

by Anonymousreply 15710/01/2010

Here is the roster that visited Obama including Stephen Coyles, Zach Howell & Sam Spillane.

by Anonymousreply 15810/01/2010

Are these guys going to get reprimanded in the press for this?

by Anonymousreply 15910/01/2010

I'm sure the screen rights to this will be optioned immediately.

by Anonymousreply 16010/01/2010

Where is Duke located?

by Anonymousreply 16110/01/2010

North Carolina

by Anonymousreply 16210/01/2010

It's beginning to make news:

by Anonymousreply 16310/01/2010

She's a sexual preditor. A maneater. My new hero.

I hope they make a movie out of this. And the angry moms should be played by the Sex and the City girls.

by Anonymousreply 16410/01/2010

Another link:

by Anonymousreply 16510/01/2010

"She's a sexual preditor."

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 16610/01/2010

It's on Forbes.com now:

by Anonymousreply 16710/01/2010

Darn,it's predator. I apologize.

by Anonymousreply 16810/01/2010

It's pretty complementary for the most part. I don't see why anyone but that Gaudet guy would be upset. She says most of them were a lot of fun, well endowed and knew how to use their equipment. What great advertising. These dudes should be thanking her.%0D %0D I also think it's great that girls of this generation can be as sexually free as men have always been.

by Anonymousreply 16910/01/2010

But what does it say about the athletes of Duke University? It looks like they all sleep around and have orgies.

by Anonymousreply 17010/01/2010

She's remarkably unsentimental for a young girl.

by Anonymousreply 17110/01/2010

This proves what I've been thinking for awhile now. A lot of posters on DL are very out of touch and are like a bunch of church ladies passing judgment on people.

If you think this "fuck list" is atypical, then you don't know any girl born at some point after 1985. Girls fuck, girls suck and girls share the information about guys, the guys' bodies and cock size, with each other all the time. They laugh and make jokes about it.

Most don't make powerpoint presentations, but she went to Duke, they're overachievers.

Fraternities have these lists. My fraternity had the "grab and go" list. Its all good, the only ones who really care are either old or shut ins.

by Anonymousreply 17210/01/2010

Why are they such whores today, R172? What happened to being a virgin when you get married or waiting to be with a man you actually know?

Why do so many women just offer themselves to any man that comes along?

by Anonymousreply 17310/01/2010

r171 watches too many movies.

by Anonymousreply 17410/01/2010

You act like women aren't sexual beings r173. Women want sex just as much as men do. It doesn't make them whores. It makes them, well, normal.

by Anonymousreply 17510/01/2010

Why are they such whores today, [R173]? What happened to being a virgin when you get married or waiting to be with a woman you actually know?

Why do so many men just offer themselves to any woman that comes along?

by Anonymousreply 17610/01/2010

Why are gay guys such whores today, [R173]? What happened to waiting to be with a man you actually know?

Why do so many men just offer themselves to any man that comes along?

by Anonymousreply 17710/01/2010

Holy shit, I know Alex Hassan's mom. Not a big fan of her, but I can't imagine what she's feeling right now.

by Anonymousreply 17810/01/2010

"Can she still wear white at her wedding?"%0D %0D %0D %0D Yes, but the dress must have a big black hem.

by Anonymousreply 17910/01/2010

respect the cock

destroy the cunt

by Anonymousreply 18010/01/2010

R23 = jealous.

by Anonymousreply 18110/01/2010

Oh, the prissiness that arises with envy!!

by Anonymousreply 18210/01/2010

[quote]It's pretty complementary for the most part. I don't see why anyone but that Gaudet guy would be upset.

He sounded like a d-bag. I felt sorrier for the handsome hot-bodied nice guy who has, apparently, a micropenis. He really didn't deserve Internet mockery.

by Anonymousreply 18310/01/2010

"I fail to see how a tee shirt will ameliorate this blow job"%0D %0D Hilarious! I'm using that line...

by Anonymousreply 18410/01/2010

I love feces.

by Anonymousreply 18510/01/2010

"respect the cunt

destroy the cock"

Cocks are useless. The things attached to them even more so.

by Anonymousreply 18610/01/2010

[quote]Why hasn't she figured out that the ones who finished quickly and left were just using her to get their rocks off? %0D %0D Duh! She was using them as well for her own amusement and sexual satisfaction. Did you even bother to read it? What century are you visiting us from? Women are allowed to enjoy sex just for sex too.%0D %0D To all the jealous bitches here who keep calling this chick a cum dump slut---you would give your left nut to be able to go out any night of the week and easily bag a top college athlete. The fact that she did this with so little effort has you all seething with envy.

by Anonymousreply 18710/01/2010

Thank you, R187. Damn.

by Anonymousreply 18810/01/2010

Sleep around when you are young and have the body. Otherwise, you will always wonder 'what if' when your tits begin to sag.

by Anonymousreply 18910/01/2010

Does no one under the age of 25 understand the difference between sharing something with a realitivly small group of people, that can be easily distroyed, i.e. in the "olden days" a slam book or sex list and %0D %0D putting something online that the entire fucking world has the possiblity of seeing%0D %0D forever.

by Anonymousreply 19010/01/2010

As someone who came from a religious nutjob family in which any hint of sex was considered perverted and who suffered the consequences of that for years, I only wish I could have enjoyed sex like this girl in college. It took me a long time to realize that sex is a human function, not a religious one, and that you don't need to be married to someone to be able to have sex with them. Also, that sex can be fun in itself, and not just for procreation. Yeah, that too.

by Anonymousreply 19110/01/2010

Is this a complete list? Thirteen guys over four years doesn't seem all that slutty.

by Anonymousreply 19210/01/2010

[quote]putting something online that the entire fucking world has the possiblity of seeing%0D %0D Yes, and isn't it grand? You can't buy that kind of publicity. She needs to own this and strike while the iron's hot.%0D %0D She'll have the last laugh when she gets 5 million for the book and movie rights. Oh, and there's definitely potential here for a "Sex in the City" type TV series set at an elite east coast college campus.%0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 19310/01/2010

All the queens trashing this girl are just jealous! Considering the whoring that goes on here among the gays (or the wishful whoring) it's ironic that homos would call her a slut.

by Anonymousreply 19410/01/2010

What do her employers and coworkers think about all this?%0D %0D R143 .... I think they're all afraid of letting her do the next Powerpoint presentation !!!

by Anonymousreply 19510/01/2010

It's too hard to read the whole thing online, but is there any mention of a condom, anywhere?

Not the pill or a diaphragm or something to prevent pregnancy--a condom: something to prevent the spread of disease.

by Anonymousreply 19610/01/2010

Thank you, R99. I keep reading what a slut she is and how she was used for a fuck. Did it ever occur to any of you that she was using them, as well? Can any of you clutching your pearls possibly get the idea that all women hate sex and only do it to placate or catch a man out of your narrow litte minds?%0D %0D As has been said many a time here on DL, it's no ones business what other people do in their bedrooms, so long as both parties agree to the activities.

by Anonymousreply 19710/01/2010

I can't wait for the inevitable "Lifetime" movie.

by Anonymousreply 19810/01/2010

This girl should be hunted down and honored with a complimentary DL membership. Seriously. She's awesome.

by Anonymousreply 19910/01/2010

Pretty typical college girl behavior. The difference is she wrote it up and posted it, instead of just telling her girlfriends.

by Anonymousreply 20010/01/2010

That stupid bitch has too much time on her hands.

by Anonymousreply 20110/01/2010

She plays her cards right she could get a book deal or more out of this. She is like a young Samantha Jones from SATC. Some of those guys were hot, and they were mutually not looking for a relationship so I think it's kind of fun.

by Anonymousreply 20210/01/2010

Those fucking bitches at Jezebel.com would be screaming bloody rape murder if a guy had done this to a group of girls. But when a chick does it, they just think it's not that big of a deal and kinda cute.

[quote]We're not condoning putting any of these sorts of things in writing or within range of the Internet, especially when using the real names of your partners. But you know what? Here's another reminder that women can be as flip, aggressive, or acquisitive about sex as men can. And there's nothing wrong with that, as long as all parties are consenting. (Of course, these guys didn't consent to have their performances publicly evaluated, but there you go. Again, people, do not put it in writing.) So what does she say? Well, there were significant ups and downs in the author's experience, but she remained upbeat throughout.

[quote]And when it was good, it was really, really good.

[quote]Some of it is downright hilarious:

[quote]And some of it is rather self-aware:

[quote]Overall, very little regret and lots of good humor. Now that she's apologized, we suggest that she keeps on owning it and then move on, because the fickle Internet surely will.

by Anonymousreply 20310/01/2010

Most of you judgmental bitches would sell your mama's clitty to a Chinese chemist for cab fare just to touch one of these Specimens.

by Anonymousreply 20410/01/2010

I dunno. I agreed with the poster a while back who said she lacks a degree of healthy self-esteem. As a straight female (yikes), I like having a fuck buddy, but the guy is someone I care for and he's not a selfish lout in bed like a lot of these guys seem to be.%0D %0D I sounds to me like she was being passed around as a "slut" by mutual acquaintances from the team(s). She was good for a bang. Which is fine, but it doesn't sound like the sex was mutual or that these guys even gave a shit about her. She was giving head but not getting any. And how could she have gauged the quality of the sexual encounters if she was drunk (not just tipsy, but pretty wasted) for most of them?%0D %0D If this were a large city, it could certainly be a Samantha what's her name experience and she would have the right to enjoy as many partners as guys do. Mostly nobody knows your business or cares. But Duke and their athletic programs are small insular communities and guys talk. When they want to get laid, they'll go for the most easily, readily available girls and Ms. Owen was one of them. Straight guys who just want to fuck don't want to have to work to get it. Like she's been labeled a slut and a whore on DL (of all places), the derision she's getting behind her back there is a 100 times worse.%0D %0D I have a feeling rehab is in her future. She may think she's had the time of her life with these hot guys, but I think she's going to regret things pretty soon. I think she may already regret them or feel guilty and putting out the Power Point "evaluations" is a way of somehow justifying her behavior and trying to put herself in a position of power when she came to the realization that she wasn't treated very well and she was complicit in all of it. On some level I think she wanted this to go viral for retribution.

by Anonymousreply 20510/01/2010

I am dying to see what this chick looks like. Anyone? Anyone? Anyone found a pic?

by Anonymousreply 20610/01/2010

Agree with r205

by Anonymousreply 20710/01/2010

Jake Lesserman and Mr. Howell are what dreams are made out of.

I've said it once on this thread and I'll say it again...this girl is a fucking hero. Champion status. They can write a Greek epic about her.

I mean, at least she has great taste. Most girls sleep around with some fugly ass straight men. This girl had the ingenuity and the intestinal fortitude to do "laborious field studies" on the the A-list "specimen" of Duke University!

by Anonymousreply 20810/01/2010

More info about my favorite Ben

by Anonymousreply 20910/01/2010

I want Ben "I couldn't walk the next day" Grisz!!!!

by Anonymousreply 21010/01/2010

R206, there's a pic at R24.

by Anonymousreply 21110/01/2010

[quote] Future employers who bother to google will find this interesting. Not that it should affect her employability, but it will. %0D %0D Eliot Spitzer will hire her.

by Anonymousreply 21210/01/2010

Nooo! Deadspin comment: %0D %0D "I know #7's sister...Jake got married last weekend. This should make for good reading material on the flight to the honeymoon."

by Anonymousreply 21310/01/2010

Don't throw cyber tomatoes at me, but men and women are different. I bet most of these guys don't even remember this woman's name. Yet she is clinging to them by remembering their names, their sexual prowess and took the time to hunt down pictures of them. She seems to be the loser in this situation.

by Anonymousreply 21410/01/2010

[R214] You don't get it. She used them.

by Anonymousreply 21510/01/2010

Seems like she would have dated the Australian guy and kind of regrets that he was a "subject".

by Anonymousreply 21610/01/2010

This same thing happened at MIT in the 70's. I was at Harvard at the time. The difference is that the woman was anonymous and the whole list was published in MIT's alternative student paper. No photos though.

by Anonymousreply 21710/01/2010

r215, when someone "uses" someone, it is implied that they are not that important. Why did she take the time to hunt down pictures of them and make a scrapbook of them. When men "use" a woman, they don't make scrapbooks.

by Anonymousreply 21810/01/2010

%0D %0D %0D God this is a dangerous world we are living in. Not that I wasn't thoroughly amused and titillated by her power point presentation. But can you imagine your name being one of the one's listed on the Internet? Once you have that and a picture, you can track these people down indefinitely. Any number of weirdos I am sure are trying to make contact with some of the more well endowed studs, or ridiculing the tinymeat boy.%0D %0D Kids are being cyber bullied. Underage girls being arrested for disseminating naked pictures of themselves. People jumping off bridges after their sexual exploits have been broadcast for the world to see. I cannot imagine where this is going to go next.%0D

by Anonymousreply 21910/01/2010

"Sex-positive" men calling women "sluts" and "whores" day in and day out.

How novel.

by Anonymousreply 22010/01/2010

[R214] = Misogynist.

by Anonymousreply 22110/01/2010

[quote]When men "use" a woman, they don't make scrapbooks.

We do however make videotapes.

by Anonymousreply 22210/01/2010

%0D %0D R218 still hasn't figured out that men and women are two completely different creatures.%0D

by Anonymousreply 22310/01/2010

In the future the modern day concept of privacy will seem like a some silly bygone concept.

The internet has begun to slowly erode at our privacy and soon we all will become exhibitionists and voyeurs, whether we like it or not.

by Anonymousreply 22410/01/2010

I wonder how many of those calling her a cum dump, slut and whore are themselves cum dumps, sluts and whores.

by Anonymousreply 22510/01/2010

She only slept with white men for her "study."%0D %0D Racist much? Oh, I think so.

by Anonymousreply 22610/01/2010

Amen R219

by Anonymousreply 22710/01/2010

"Supposedly she's the brunette on the left. Good body (although you can't see her supposedly mesmerizing rack) - meh face"

She's not very attractive, total butter face, OK body. I'm convinced str8 guys will fuck ANYTHING, especially when they're drunk or drugged.

She probably has low self esteem issues (IE: "I'm not too attractive, yet I can fuck the lacrosse team and other hot guys" type of justification for her loose behaviour) and as someone pointed out at one of the links, exactly how does her female misogynistic behaviour help her empowerment? Or maybe she's just plain horny? Though despite women stating they can fuck around 'just like men', they are lying.

How does acting like a whore exactly empower a woman? Especially if women want to be 'better' than men, how does acting like a boorish man help?

Most of the str8 women I've even known who fucked around a lot, all had either very strict/religious parents or very low self esteem. In their warped minds, they associated men wanting to fuck them as being accepted into some bizarre in-crowd of hot women, which of course most of them were not.

I worked this unattractive fatty, she didn't even have a pretty face and wore thick Coke bottle eyeglasses, she screwed around a lot. I was shocked to hear this. She bragged about it.

My perception was, "I'm fug, but i get laid a lot. Jealous?" If she felt the need to constantly brag about it, she was doing it for other reasons, other that her own sexual gratification. Meanwhile, the pretty females in my department couldn't even get dates. On the other hand, they were much more selective than the screwing marathon fug female.

by Anonymousreply 22810/01/2010

R228--Why can't she just like sex?

by Anonymousreply 22910/01/2010

We have seen one pic of her, we don't know she is a butterface. I say good for her! Tables turned..kudos to Karen.

by Anonymousreply 23010/01/2010

[R228] Some women love to fuck, just like men.

by Anonymousreply 23110/01/2010

Stand back everyone. This could get ugly.

by Anonymousreply 23310/01/2010

Laughing AT r232.

Getting a fucking clue.

Like a gay male understands female sexuality. AS IF!

by Anonymousreply 23410/01/2010

Harper Collins is already offering a book deal. Suck it Haters!

by Anonymousreply 23510/01/2010

lol, r233. I don't want this to get ugly, but I would feel remiss if I didn't say something.

r232, you sound like the one who doesn't know anything about straight women, and you sound straight out of the 50s yourself. One of the first mistakes you make (albeit a common one, especially on DL) is assuming that all women are the same.

What makes you think that the women who like casual sex are 'lying', or that women want to be 'better' than men? They just want to be allowed to do the same things as men, which includes gratifying themselves sexually - and plenty of women enjoy casual sex with a stranger or near-stranger for similar reasons as guys do (they like their life the way it is and just want to get off, not put in the effort of developing an emotional connection with someone). Women are human beings too, which includes having a sex drive. It's not always about wanting a relationship or getting married. In fact, it's often not.

Let's face it, there's no way women can win, and nowhere do I see that better exemplified than in the attitudes on DL -- if they want marriage, they're clingy emotional "fraus" and if they want casual sex, they're selfish whore cum dumpsters.

by Anonymousreply 23610/01/2010

Remember when chastity was a virtue and virtue was considered to be something good?%0D %0D Neither do I.

by Anonymousreply 23710/01/2010

She is making the early news shows round next week.

by Anonymousreply 23810/01/2010

I hope she gets lots of media coverage, makes some money, and goes on to have a great life. %0D %0D It'd be a nice slap in the face to the Carrie Prejean/Bristol Palin types who "reclaim" their virginity and go around scolding people for having sex.

by Anonymousreply 23910/01/2010

Though I'm laughing, I really feel sorry for micropenis guy.

Gay guys, if they're not well endowed, can at least have great asses, be great bottoms, suck good dick.

by Anonymousreply 24010/01/2010

So, r232, why do lesbians have sex?

by Anonymousreply 24110/01/2010

I agree that the joke is on her. Sure, she can dress is up as her using the guys, or doing this 'research' or her being super horny, but the fact is, half of the guys didn't even put any effort in. As another poster noted, she was giving head but not getting any. It WASN'T mutual. It was another stupid woman giving it up for an entire sports team without realising just how worthless she really was to them. They didn't make her cum because they didn't care. They wanted to get their rocks off quickly. Attractive straight women don't need to behave like this to get laid.

by Anonymousreply 24210/01/2010

If indeed she did not get any head I'm sure it's because she didn't want any. Most straight guys feel obligated to at least put in a token effort.

by Anonymousreply 24310/01/2010

She writes on one of the slides for the 7th victim, "He was the definition of a whore, and the only time he wanted to hook up when we were both out..."

No, honey, YOU are the whore. By your own account!

Re: the current discussion, it's possible for girls to just like sex, but that's not what THIS girl is doing. She is whoring herself around the Duke athletic teams so that she can "use" the boys and then humiliate them behind their backs. If she just liked sex, she would not have a premeditated plan to only fuck a certain group of boys and then embarrass them to her friends later.

by Anonymousreply 24410/01/2010

The link at r24 doesn't have a pic of subject 10. Could someone link to his pic?

by Anonymousreply 24510/01/2010

[quote]If she just liked sex, she would not have a premeditated plan to only fuck a certain group of boys and then embarrass them to her friends later.

The hot ones.

You're just jealous.

by Anonymousreply 24710/01/2010

r246

What's the difference as long as you get off?

by Anonymousreply 24810/01/2010

This thread is filled with jealous queens.

by Anonymousreply 24910/01/2010

It's amazing to see such puritanism on DL.

Naturally, it only applies to women, but still...

by Anonymousreply 25010/01/2010

R250, it's DL's version of a Purity Ball.

by Anonymousreply 25110/01/2010

They really are not that hot, r247. Your taste isn't everyone else's.

by Anonymousreply 25210/01/2010

Agreed, R251. It's just unexpected.

I bet Christine O'Donnell and Sarah Palin would have multiple orgasms over the attitudes in this thread.

by Anonymousreply 25310/01/2010

[quote]Sorry ladies for the bum rap, but in my opinion, it just comes down to the pure physiology of sexual intercourse. Psychologically putting your dick in something is not the same as having a dick put in you.%0D %0D [quote]Basically when you put your thing in something, you are using IT to get off. When someone puts their thing in you, they are using YOU to get off. One act is USING the other is BEING USED. %0D %0D You know jack shit about female psychology or physiology even if you may be a lesbian.

by Anonymousreply 25410/01/2010

[quote]Basically when you put your thing in something, you are using IT to get off. When someone puts their thing in you, they are using YOU to get off. One act is USING the other is BEING USED

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 25510/01/2010

This was a good thread, but now you're all just repeating yourselves.

by Anonymousreply 25610/01/2010

Where to even start with R246. Because guys have a penis they are the only ones who can feel anything sexually or physically. Or the only ones who would pursue sex for the pleasure.

Having and using your sexual appendage only equals using your partner. Having an opening which receives said sexual appendage only equals being used.

Got it.

by Anonymousreply 25710/01/2010

Maybe they didn't give her head because she apparently wasn't very good a keeping track of her period.

by Anonymousreply 25810/01/2010

I agree with R171.

by Anonymousreply 25910/01/2010

Which guy did she blow? The guy she made the T-shirt comment about?

by Anonymousreply 26010/01/2010

Maybe they didn't give her head because they knew all about the other cocks that were up in her.

by Anonymousreply 26110/01/2010

the guy who made her unable to walk the next day is going to get laid so much.%0D %0D oh, wait; he already was.%0D %0D so sad, these guys, while embarrassing for them, will be okay; but the poor gay kid who was videotaped and then jumped off a bridge...well, he has a different ending.%0D %0D we still live in a straight world.

by Anonymousreply 26210/01/2010

#13 is adorable.

by Anonymousreply 26310/01/2010

[quote]Basically when you put your thing in something, you are using IT to get off. When someone puts their thing in you, they are using YOU to get off. One act is USING the other is BEING USED.

r246, many straight men believe that. That's what most women WANT men to believe. They are so good at telling this lie that they start to believe it themselves. And they start to believe it because they have had so many lousy guys in the sack. You're not being used if you have the orgasm of life, and that's why this slut is awesome.

by Anonymousreply 26410/01/2010

I think her attitude toward sex is quite healthy, R171 / R259. If more young women were taught to separate sex from romance, they might not end up so disappointed.

by Anonymousreply 26510/01/2010

Let me ammend that; I'm hoping they'll be okay.

by Anonymousreply 26610/01/2010

I think it's hysterical.

And damn, I'm jealous. Some of those guys have unbelievable bodies.

by Anonymousreply 26710/01/2010

It is healthy, but I do agree with R171's comment as well.%0D %0D %0D I know I would've been much happier had I separated sex from romance. MUCH happier.%0D %0D %0D Good for her, I say.

by Anonymousreply 26810/01/2010

[quote][R246], many straight men believe that. That's what most women WANT men to believe. %0D %0D Why would women want men to believe this? It would serve them no purpose whatsoever.%0D %0D But, yes, women do start believe this because a lot of straight guys are lousy, selfish lovers. You may tell them what they need to do to get you off; they'll do it for a microsecond then revert to what gets them off. It's just pure selfishness. The good news is that it takes just one good lover to open your eyes. You'll never put up with another bad lover again. At least I didn't.

by Anonymousreply 26910/01/2010

Poor, dear, sweet, deluded Mary who thinks women don't like to fuck for fun, just like you. It's not a majority of women, but there are enough, especially when young. It's like a candy store when you're young.

by Anonymousreply 27010/01/2010

I don't think she seems entirely healthy in her attitude.

That refusal to add the best fuck guy as a facebook friend so as not to appear "clingy" seems odd.

It's great that she can separate sex and intimacy, but to actively avoid putting the two together when the guy in question seems right up her street, so to speak?

by Anonymousreply 27110/01/2010

She's perfect for a world where people collect 100s of strangers on Facebook and considers them friends.

by Anonymousreply 27210/01/2010

Wouldn't you just love to see pictures of all of the puritan queens and sex negative house fraus complaining about this girl

by Anonymousreply 27310/01/2010

puritan queens = sex negative haus frauen wannabes.

by Anonymousreply 27410/01/2010

"a lot of straight guys are lousy, selfish lovers"

I'm curious as to why that is. Do most of them not eat pussy?

by Anonymousreply 27510/01/2010

For once, the gays are right.%0D %0D I think I'll send her a copy of my book to show her it's possible to stop being a filthy whore, become chaste, and find a husband.

by Anonymousreply 27610/01/2010

Why is everybody so sure none of these guys went down? She wasn't explicit about everything, sadly. We need DETAILS, Duke Fuck Girl!

by Anonymousreply 27710/01/2010

No, R275, it's not necessarily a lack of oral sex, it's just their blind interest in getting it in, pumping and getting off without some acknowledgement that there's another person involved in the act. This can mean little to no foreplay, not having any knowledge or interest it what a partner might consider erotic, being limited to the missinary position, or overall lack of imagination. Some guys are like this even if you try to nicely tell them what you'd like.%0D %0D And I'm certainly not trying to say that all or even a majority of straight guys are like this.

by Anonymousreply 27810/01/2010

Deadspin has removed the names. Let's hope the faces stay online.

by Anonymousreply 27910/01/2010

"being limited to the missinary position"

I thought straight guys liked to try other positions? So they don't let women do women on top or doggy style?

by Anonymousreply 28010/01/2010

[quote]As the ashamed author of this slide show, I am horrified at your choice to include all the names that you did. While I cannot stop you from publishing it, this item was never meant to be seen outside of a very small circle of people. Obviously, it has gone viral. However, your inclusion of the real names are causing this awful situation to escalate even further and is actually starting to affect peoples' lives in ways that go far beyond mere embarrassment. Remove the names immediately, or I will be adding your blog post to the list of things I discuss with my attorney when we meet. If you would like to talk further, please include your number in your response and I will contact you as soon as I can. Again, including real names is simply cruel of you and you will black them out immediately.

by Anonymousreply 28110/01/2010

Some of the guys probably complained, R279

by Anonymousreply 28210/01/2010

I don't think she'll be doing Good Morning America but Chelsea Lately is a given. And this will be a storyline on Gossip Girl before the season is out.

by Anonymousreply 28310/01/2010

She wrote it and shared it and should not worry about the real names.

Once it is out there it will never go away.

by Anonymousreply 28410/01/2010

You'd be surprised at how unimaginative some guys are. Fairly recently my bff started a relationship with a guy who wasn't particularly good-looking, but she got with him because she thought he was intelligent and "nice." It turned out he wasn't particularly that, either. He wouldn't do anything other than missionary, wouldn't eat her out, wouldn't do foreplay, nothing. Not surprisingly, their relationship didn't last very long.

by Anonymousreply 28510/01/2010

I thought men like that were a thing of the past, R285. I knew it was like that in my grandmother's day, but I didn't think it was still like that.

by Anonymousreply 28610/01/2010

Boys will be boys:

by Anonymousreply 28710/01/2010

I'm sure there are fewer of them around than there used to be, r286, but they still exist. I think it stems as much from insecurity as it does from selfishness.

by Anonymousreply 28810/01/2010

"If indeed she did not get any head I'm sure it's because she didn't want any. Most straight guys feel obligated to at least put in a token effort."

So do most straight guys today eat pussy?

by Anonymousreply 28910/01/2010

I bet Ben Grisz isn't complaining or offended. As for the parents of the guys, I bet only the moms are mad.

by Anonymousreply 29010/01/2010

Are the guys going to lose out on positions and scholarships for this?

by Anonymousreply 29110/01/2010

Some of the comments at Deadspin are fucking hilarious:%0D %0D "I think we're missing the bigger picture here. There were so many "subjects" in such a short period of time. I think there had to be a second Shooter's."%0D %0D %0D "The premise of PowerPoint is: SHOW me, don't TELL me. . ."%0D %0D "Tell me about it. Not one graphical comparison of penis sizes. No pie chart breakdown of performance ratings by sport. No comparison of dollars spent or drinks consumed at each bar. %0D %0D And I'm going to go ahead and assume she just read the presentation straight from the slide, keeping her eyes on the slide rather than the audience and keeping her back to us. %0D %0D And 40+ slides? Really? After about the fourth guy, I'm starting to nod off."

by Anonymousreply 29310/01/2010

Why on earth would a guy's parents read a college girl's assessment of their son's sexual prowess?

That's way too weird and crosses too many boundaries for me.

by Anonymousreply 29410/01/2010

Did any of the guys eat pussy?

by Anonymousreply 29510/01/2010

"Not one graphical comparison of penis sizes."

True. How are we supposed to know what size they actually were and whether a woman knows enough about men's size to accurately judge? What does she consider average? 6 inches? 5 inches? 7 inches?

by Anonymousreply 29610/01/2010

I'd say she has established her expertise on the subject of dicks.

by Anonymousreply 29710/01/2010

I still say Zach Howell did....

which is why he got a 12 out of a possible 10. Plus, he loved different positions.

by Anonymousreply 29810/01/2010

[quote]Some of the comments at Deadspin are fucking hilarious:

I read Deadspin regularly (basically it is Gawker's sports site), and also Every Day Should Be Saturday (EDSBS), an irreverent college football website, and believe it or not, despite the fact that these are stereotypically the domain of straight men (though I'm betting more than a few gays are posting), the comments are consistently hilarious, witty, and insightful, mixing sports with a lot of random pop culture and other references. Of course, there are tedious and inane posts as well.

EDSBS mentioned the AGA Shivrell issue in Michigan and nearly all of the comments were against the asshole and spoke to how utterly ridiculous the guy is, including, in reference to gays ruining marriage:

"Because, you know, we straight folks have done such a bang-up job keeping it pristine and pure thus far."

As to the "threat" of gays:

"Of all the things you could possibly be worried about, Gay people seems right above my teeth catching on fire, and right below the threat of my cat turning into a demon beast."

by Anonymousreply 29910/01/2010

So Lemmerman just got married?

by Anonymousreply 30010/01/2010

This comment turned up on a Duke website:

[quote] i've only seen a little bit and this would look awful if it got out beyond duke. not just this girl's reputation but duke's too. do we really want people to know that, at duke, lacrosse players are not only considered legitimate athletes but also cool?

Made me laugh.

by Anonymousreply 30110/01/2010

I read an article on the Duke social scene. The lacrosse players are the kings and it's sort of a mark of status to fuck one. The basketball players keep to themselves.

by Anonymousreply 30210/01/2010

What do the parents of these athletes think when they hear their sons are screwing around, having orgies and shooting their cum all over the couch in the dorm?

by Anonymousreply 30310/01/2010

R300: His brother is getting married and Jake is the best man.

by Anonymousreply 30410/01/2010

thefatwhiteguy.com still has the names up.

The toothpaste simply cannot be put back in the tube.

by Anonymousreply 30510/01/2010

"The lacrosse players are the kings and it's sort of a mark of status to fuck one."

I think it's time they were brought down a peg.

by Anonymousreply 30610/01/2010

I'm late to this party but am a female who just had her annual checkup. I'm way older than the kids being discussed and am pals with the doc. She said the wave of diseased young women coming through her door with their shaved twats is unprecedented. And she is extremely depressed. Had 3 cases of Syphilis this week in 3 twentysomethings after lab work.%0D %0D OY

by Anonymousreply 30710/01/2010

I just find this whole 'hookup' culture disgusting and disturbing and I think women are almost always the losers, being more susceptible to pregnancy and STD's. It's also sad when straight women feel that fucking a guy is some sort of accomplishment. Straight guys will fuck ANYTHING. Ever wondered why it's always the fat/ugly chicks who get laid the most?

by Anonymousreply 30810/01/2010

I'm still bothered by No 5 Guy Stephen Coyle.

She was put in a cab, unconscious and he fucked her and she knows nothing about what he did to her except the bruising on her.

No one seems to be interested in this particular story. They are all concentrating on the others.

by Anonymousreply 30910/01/2010

The guys' names are still listed at the link and it is easier to read than the deadspin link. %0D However, subject #10's picture is missing..

by Anonymousreply 31010/01/2010

So what is the appeal of LaCrosse?

I can understand football & baseball because they are "mainstream" popular.

But LaCrosse seems so silly to me.

by Anonymousreply 31110/01/2010

I know. She basically said she always found him ugly and would never have willingly been with him.

He saw an opportunity and took advantage.

by Anonymousreply 31210/01/2010

R246 Here.

You people missed my point entirely. I am talking to you R254 and R257.

I was addressing the question as to why women who sleep with a lot of men are considered sluts and guys who sleep with a lot of women are not.

I am not saying it is fair, or accurate that this girl is considered a slut. I was addressing the perception.

And to make it clear that it is not JUST a gender issue, but a physiological one, I mentioned that gay men who bottom with a ton of guys are seen as sluts as well.

by Anonymousreply 31310/01/2010

R260, she blew all of them. That seemed to be her specialty ("you totally don't have a gag reflex", "you're such a pro at that", etc.).%0D %0D Nothing wrong with that, but it's kind of sad that only one of the guys seemed to care at all about whether she got off, too.

by Anonymousreply 31410/01/2010

r310 Guy 10 is Alex Hassan.

The funny think is his pic is gone but his name is still listed in the slide of the names.

Here:

by Anonymousreply 31510/01/2010

LAXers epitomize the straight hot white boy look and culture that everyone lusts after. LAX is also very much a prep school sport, so it reeks of wealth.

Combine wealth and straight hot preppy white boys and you'll understand why LAXers slay some serious box.

by Anonymousreply 31610/01/2010

Makes me wish I joined the Lacrosse team back in school.

For every 4 straights there must be 1 gay or bi-curious player in the bunch.

by Anonymousreply 31710/01/2010

Tucker Virtue's picture is missing.

by Anonymousreply 31810/01/2010

R311, lacrosse is no sillier than any other field sport. All field sports share certain characteristics.

Lacrosse stands out because it was originated by Native American tribes. Also, in the days before helmets (a recent development), most lacrosse players ended up requiring stitches to close scalp wounds.

An ex of mine played college lacrosse. It was a mark of honor to have gotten a lot of stitches, partly because that meant you were in control of the ball. No guts, no glory.

They weren't quite as bloodthirsty as the ruggers, but they were right up there.

by Anonymousreply 31910/01/2010

In the good old days lax uniforms were so sexy. The shirts were short and the bare midriffs combined with the shoulder pads was hot. Then the NCAA decided it looked unprofessional. Damn.

by Anonymousreply 32010/01/2010

Yah, she got raped by #5. And she somehow doesn't realise this?

by Anonymousreply 32110/01/2010

The one subject, Subject 7 refers to the list. So these guys not only knew Karen slept around with their teammates, but they were aware that she was compiling a list. Subject 7 asked how he ranked.

So the guys are completely innocent.

by Anonymousreply 32210/01/2010

Ben Grisz is a wrestler and a baseball player. Triple threat.

by Anonymousreply 32310/01/2010

Oh, she realized it.... as soon as she woke up and saw his ugly face, but she also knew there wasn't much she could do about it, so she let it go.

by Anonymousreply 32410/01/2010

Direct link to the appraisal of fugo the opportunist.

by Anonymousreply 32510/01/2010

Someone with a "fuck list" floating around the Internet wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of proving rape. Not saying that it gives the jerk a pass but that's the reality.

by Anonymousreply 32610/01/2010

Straight girl here. I love giving head without reciprocation.

by Anonymousreply 32710/01/2010

Lotta thug duck on that list!

by Anonymousreply 32810/01/2010

Same here R327. I don't enjoy receiving oral at all but I do like giving.

by Anonymousreply 32910/01/2010

Twenty years ago, before the internet, when personal ads were still in the back of weekly papers, I posted one, but got a reply not intended for me. It was four or five photocopied pages from a frat at McGill in Montreal, with a score board assessing each brother's cock size when flacid or erect, points for the number of times each jerked off or fellated or fucked with a brother (passive or active); more if they swallowed...

I wish I'd kept it.. it was so hot, and I jerked off to it for years.... it confirmed my horniest thoughts about a frat house....

Anybody got any stories like that?

by Anonymousreply 33010/01/2010

I admit this list shocked me a little when I looked at it but if that's what she wants to do you can't really judge her. I don't think she has a low self-esteem but I do wonder how she goes about finding a partner that she wants to be in a serious relationship with. Does she also evaluate their size to find out if they're boyfriend material? I'm just confused.

by Anonymousreply 33110/01/2010

Yeah, R330, they're all at nifty.org, where yours belongs.

by Anonymousreply 33210/01/2010

And no one has mentioned that her parents paid 200k to get laid by all these Duke men.

by Anonymousreply 33310/01/2010

A video of the team working out and eating, etc. Some of the guys on the list are in it:

by Anonymousreply 33410/01/2010

In that video Ryan McFadyen is the one who was the center of the whole rape story. He sent the email joking about killing the strippers.

by Anonymousreply 33510/01/2010

Just in case it gets pulled down

by Anonymousreply 33610/01/2010

Is this Tucker? #10?

by Anonymousreply 33710/01/2010

Here is No 10 Alex Hassan. He must have requested his pics removed from the site. However he is on the goduke.com site for his team:

by Anonymousreply 33810/02/2010

I think Hassan is the 6th subjet and R337 is correct. Tucker is in the video.

by Anonymousreply 33910/02/2010

Oops Sorry. It's getting confusing with all the stuff blurred out.

by Anonymousreply 34010/02/2010

Hassan is the 1 who has the teeny tiny weenie.

by Anonymousreply 34110/02/2010

"Wouldn't you just love to see pictures of all of the puritan queens and sex negative house fraus complaining about this girl"%0D %0D %0D %0D Most of them probably aren't any more homely than the girl herself. Most sluts are fugs who get attention from men by putting out. %0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 34210/02/2010

Here is No 10 Tucker Virtue's assessment still at Jezebel:

by Anonymousreply 34310/02/2010

Have any of you read Tom Wolfe's "I am Charlotte Simmons" (2004)? Set in an amalgam of Duke and Yale, it depicts the sexual and social activities of freshman women in pursuit of jocks/fraternity brothers. There is a character named Beverly Amory who easily could be this girl. She seems to go out drinking most evenings, and she is desperate to score a Lacrosse player. Other young women assume the role of cum dumpsters.

There are two possibilities that I see. One is that Wolfe once again has satirized a real situation. The other possibility is that this girl made up the whole thing, inspired by the Beverly Amory character.

by Anonymousreply 34410/02/2010

R344, or you could say that even in old age Tom Wolfe is a very perceptive observer.

The girl in question is real, as are the boys she rated, and the situation is all too plausible, so I don't see how anyone could think she made it up.

Once again, life imitates fiction.

by Anonymousreply 34510/02/2010

R344, from the responses (and legal threats) the blogs have been getting, it seems the encounters are pretty much true - at least, none of the parties involved have been crying "fake". Nor does the situation seem particularly outlandish (woman sleeps with at least 13 guys on sports teams over 4 years and shares details with friends). I mean, it's not like Wolfe was treading on new territory in writing about coeds who have sex with sports jocks - I'm pretty sure that's been going on for decades, at Duke and pretty much every other college.%0D %0D A blogger at Forbes posted Karen Owen's cached LinkedIn profile (which contains another picture of her). Apparently she was committed to public service for HIV / AIDS education in Africa. I'm sure there's some irony to be found there.

by Anonymousreply 34610/02/2010

[quote]it's kind of sad that only one of the guys seemed to care at all about whether she got off, too.%0D %0D %0D It's funny to me that the jealous, hissing queens here are clutching at anything they can to make it seem like the men are the ones who got the last laugh on a poor, pathetic little slut.%0D %0D Um, no. If you go back and actually READ her comments you will see that she did indeed get off----plenty (oh, and you hate her for it because you wish it were you instead). She constantly refers to these enounters as hot, fun, the best sex she's ever had, being fucked out and loving it. That doesn't sound to me like a woman left unsatisfied.%0D %0D The only guy who didn't care about her pleasure was raked over the coals for it and given the lowest score.%0D %0D Keep spinning jealous queens. It's funny to watch you all resort to acting like a bunch of pearl clutching church ladies in an effort to bring down your arch nemesis: a straight female--- WHO GETS ALL THE GOOD DICK WITHOUT EVEN TRYING.

by Anonymousreply 34810/02/2010

I think it's funny that all the pearl clutchers out there have this romantic notion that guys - esp. privileged jocks - actually want more than pussy from women in general. Y'all keep going on about how they only fucked her because she had a pussy - well, duh! I don't see any reason to embellish these guys with some hyper-sensitivity towards and compassion for women. I mean, some of them actually "double-up" on one woman.%0D %0D They're not saints, y'know. They're pussy hounds themselves and what you see all over this thread is a double-standard about a woman's sexual activity.%0D %0D And as far as low self-esteem goes, it's not like she had group sex. Sure, guys talk. And they obviously had a lot of good things to say about her.%0D %0D A vagina would be wasted on you lot!

by Anonymousreply 34910/02/2010

She worked for the Kenyan Network for Woman preaching Aids education.

This is actually pretty sad. Those African women are dying of AIDS from behavior like Owen is promoting.

Also she is way uglier in this new pic of her.

by Anonymousreply 35010/02/2010

Read the 2nd sentence at the link. She talks about bagging a guy "soon after I had decided to stop being a real person" and how the wild nights were "absurd" at first but eventually absurd became "normal". Sounds like she did this as an experiment, as a chance to bag as many guys as she could for a while. I say go for it, and I hope it works out for her. Lots of people don't get the chance, and I personally wish I had let my overtly sexual side out during college just to see what it was like.

by Anonymousreply 35210/02/2010

Welcome R232 from the year 1952! We hope you enjoy the 21st century.

by Anonymousreply 35310/02/2010

[quote]Those African women are dying of AIDS from behavior like Owen is promoting.%0D %0D I'm not going to dignify your ill-informed assertion about AIDS in Africa with a rebuttal, R350, but I'm amazed that you or anyone else could honestly believe that this young woman is [italic]promoting[/italic] anything. The Powerpoint is a humorous diary of consensual sexual encounters (with the possible exception of one encounter in which she was apparently too intoxicated to consent). The Powerpoint presentation was for her own amusement. She forwarded it to some friends and someone published it online without her consent.%0D %0D All the evidence that has come to light thus far indicates that she would not have disclosed this information to strangers, so your notion that anyone is deliberately 'promoting' anything is risible at best. With all the rampant slut-shaming on this forum and elsewhere, do you really believe that she would willingly expose herself to public ridicule like this?

by Anonymousreply 35410/02/2010

[quote]A vagina would be wasted on you lot!

We do have lesbians posting here, you know.

Otherwise, duh, we're gay men. Of course we're jealous that any skank willing to spread her legs can get any hot jock she wants for a night.

Straight guys used to have to pay money for that.

But when jocks begin to realize the whole world will be informed of their shortcomings if they fail to measure up to said skank's outsized expectations, they may become more selective.

At least whores you pay for keep their mouths shut.

by Anonymousreply 35510/02/2010

uh, no, r351, he's no hero....

people now know him as a borderline rapist who has to target the near unconscious in order to get any.

by Anonymousreply 35610/02/2010

And r235 states the real reason this went viral. She wanted it to.

I was talking to a co-worker about this yesterday. She said she thought something was off about the whole thing. I said, "me, too. Book deal?"

It's becoming so obvious when the idiots do this now. It's not enough anymore to just create a fake twitter account and write updates about "shit my dad says."

by Anonymousreply 35710/02/2010

Paid whores keep their mouths shut? Really?

You might want to ask Tiger about that.

by Anonymousreply 35810/02/2010

[quote]At least whores you pay for keep their mouths shut%0D %0D %0D We do?

by Anonymousreply 35910/02/2010

Fuckwit @ R350, women in Africa have Aids because their MEN fuck monkeys and anything else they can find that's warm and wet. Then they bring their diseases home to their women.

by Anonymousreply 36010/02/2010

I do feel sorry for the tiny penised fellow. He's also the one that dirty talked about big black cocks. He got a double whammy slam.

R348 - I think the poster you're quoting was saying that it's unfortunate more of the guys weren't interested in her needs. He/she is on your side.

by Anonymousreply 36110/02/2010

R358 and R359, you owe each other a coke!

I don't know what details Tiger's whores have spilled, but someone must have paid them more than he did to get that info out of them.

It seems like a pretty serious breach of client confidentiality. If you can't trust a whore, who can you trust?

by Anonymousreply 36210/02/2010

Tiger's whores certainly revealed a lot of details on Howard Stern and other places. Among the things I remember from the Howard Stern interview:

Tiger is circumcised

Tiger has a big dick

Tiger likes anal sex

Tiger likes rimming

Tiger sometimes wore condoms and sometimes didn't

Tiger liked being sucked off but didn't do a lot of oral reciprocation

by Anonymousreply 36310/02/2010

R361, you missed the entire point of my post. %0D %0D If you read the PP, she WAS satisfied. The jealous priss pots here are trying to spin a new narrative that this girl was a cum rag. Not true.%0D %0D No gay man here gives a shit about whether some straight girl is getting off. Their agenda is always misogyny. You must be new to DL.

by Anonymousreply 36410/02/2010

R363, the most damning revelation was that Tiger frequented whores at all, not that he has a big dick.

by Anonymousreply 36510/02/2010

My favorite -

Tiger is cheap. Tiger only bought 1 whore something... a subway sandwich.

by Anonymousreply 36610/02/2010

What I found most interesting was Tiger's fascination with anal sex and rimming. He seems to really like being rimmed.

by Anonymousreply 36710/02/2010

r354. It appears she didn't practice safe sex. So yes, she is promoting the kind of behavior that gives women AIDS.

by Anonymousreply 36810/02/2010

Are the athletes going to be raked over the coals for this?

by Anonymousreply 36910/02/2010

Why is it always the plain one in a duo of friends who is the biggest whore.

IN this pic her blonde friend is gorgeous.

Karen is like the plain brunette in the shadows. I guess low esteem is a part of it.

by Anonymousreply 37010/02/2010

Are there any black guys at Duke?

by Anonymousreply 37110/02/2010

That's gorgeous? That's a Donatella Versace starter kit in clear heels.

by Anonymousreply 37210/02/2010

Gorgeous, my ass.

by Anonymousreply 37310/02/2010

So all the guys she was with are white? No blacks, asians or latinos?

by Anonymousreply 37410/02/2010

Why does that seem unusual to you, r374? Most people only "date" within their race.

by Anonymousreply 37510/02/2010

Had she known her sex life would become a viral phenomenon, I'm sure she would have hooked up with a few blacks, an Asian, and a Latino or two so as to avoid the appearance of racism, and to let it be known that her pussy is open to the entire world of men whose dicks measure up to her standards.

by Anonymousreply 37610/02/2010

R375, don't generalize about "most" people. Things have changed a lot, particularly among the younger generation (of which she is a part).

Many people, particularly those who sample multiple partners like her, are with more than one race.

by Anonymousreply 37710/02/2010

Has any of the guys committed suicide yet?

by Anonymousreply 37810/02/2010

Well, you have to give her some credit. She could pull hot, white men who were in shape. They are the ultimate in desirability.

by Anonymousreply 37910/02/2010

Katherine Heigl has signed on to play Karen in the movie version .......

by Anonymousreply 38010/02/2010

"This is actually pretty sad. Those African women are dying of AIDS from behavior like Owen is promoting."

Most Idiotic Post of the Day Award.

by Anonymousreply 38110/02/2010

Try harder R370.%0D %0D Karen - not plain or lacking in self esteem (quite the opposite)%0D %0D Blond - fug and probably a bigger whore, just too stupid to exploit it with a viral powerpoint. Karen is getting a book/movie deal. Blond--nothing but and STD.%0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 38210/02/2010

There's been a gay New York fuck list going around for years.

Such a time-saver.

It was started by six hot guys in the Village in 1996. They added a few guys every year and there are now about 40 active members last time I heard about it. They set a rule early on that men would voluntarily resign from the core group at 40, no exceptions. From what I hear, those guys still get copies of the list from friends although they aren't "officially" part of the group.

The list has a strong objective component (age, body type, physical characteristics, dick size, cut/uncut and sexual position) with more subjective comments by those who maintain the list.

It makes for a good read, especially as some of the people mentioned here on DL have been featured for a while.

And, yes, if you're among those who receive the list, you're also evaluated.

Fair is fair.

by Anonymousreply 38310/02/2010

she is very plain, though. the guys in that Lacrosse video were much hotter than her. I think it's silly to assume she has no self-esteem issues.

by Anonymousreply 38410/02/2010

She was a recent grad of Duke. That means she would have been around back in 2006/7 when the LaCrosse rape story was happening.

Yet, she still dreamed of these sort of guys.

by Anonymousreply 38510/02/2010

In my next life, I want to be here.

by Anonymousreply 38610/02/2010

[quote]I think it's silly to assume she has no self-esteem issues.%0D %0D %0D Why? Because YOU'RE uncomfortable with what she did? Project much?%0D %0D So you must believe that all the man-whores she fucked have self esteem issues as well, correct? Not to mention every gay man who has multiple partners. %0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 38710/02/2010

But the lacrosse rape story was totally discredited.

by Anonymousreply 38810/02/2010

zac howell looked hot in that video. yummy.

by Anonymousreply 38910/02/2010

i'm not projecting. not one of these 13 guys pursued a relationship with her. why?

by Anonymousreply 39010/02/2010

My bff is a straight woman who can come very easily. In fact, I know another straight woman who jokes that she can "come in a stiff breeze."%0D %0D %0D The vast majority of women are not like this. But the women who are, in my experience, tend to be a lot more promiscuous.%0D %0D %0D My bff told me that from the ages of 16-30, she easily had sex with thousands of men, NSA. Hell, she didn't even WANT anything more than sex from them. She had quickies in back alleys, on the beach, etc.%0D %0D %0D Part of me feels that "ICK" feeling about it, but part of me wants to say, "You go, girl!" I mean, I am NOT one of those women who can come in a stiff breeze, and I'm a lesbian besides. But who's to say that if I were, I wouldn't have been going through men like a box of Kleenex...? %0D %0D %0D I admire this girl; I hope she does get a book deal, etc. And you queens are so transparent; the jealousy you feel for women seems to permeate your lives. I mean, there have been plenty of times when I wished I had some of the privileges you men have. But you guys are really over the top with this shit.%0D %0D %0D Get a grip.

by Anonymousreply 39110/02/2010

It seemed to be understood by the parties involved that these encounters were NSA, r390. It has been mentioned time and time again in this thread that females can desire NSA encounters as much as males. It has nothing to do with low self-esteem.

by Anonymousreply 39210/02/2010

almost 400 posts already? this really fascinates DL'ers. maybe because deep down the gays really want to live vicariously thru her.%0D %0D i know i do:D

by Anonymousreply 39310/02/2010

The average SAT score for students admitted to Duke is 1445. She's no dummy. Can't say the same about the jocks though. They probably all got sports scholarships and weren't required to meet the rigorous academic criteria. %0D %0D So a brainy girl turned the tables on a bunch of dumb jocks and exploited them for a book deal. So what. This kind of thing has been happening to women since the dawn of time. Hooray for her.%0D

by Anonymousreply 39410/02/2010

Tiger didn't frequent professionals. You pay a professional to keep quiet. He just slept with a lot of different women, most of whom were probably gold diggers. And all of it only came out after the car crash. I am amazed that all those non-professionals kept quiet up until that point.%0D %0D The fact that Karen works with women with AIDS leaves me to believe she at least knows the tools to keep herself safe, in most cases, with the one exception of blackout sex. She is not promoting chastity, she is promoting safety.%0D %0D She should at least count her lucky stars her name is Karen Owen. There have to be at least 50,000 Karen Owens in America. I am jealous of all the primo dick she got. I hoped she enjoyed herself, but in time, I get the feeling the pain of this following her around will out weigh any fun had.

by Anonymousreply 39510/02/2010

#395, we all have shizophrenic, delusional or hypocritical tendencies. Teaching and advocating safe sex doesn't necessarily mean that these people practice what they teach.

"This will never happen to me!", "I have a pretty good sense about who to trust and who not to trust", "I'm undestructable, no virus can harm me!", "I can spot the ones who are positive!", "I'm too smart / too healthy to get Aids", "I only do it once or twice a month without a condom, it's practically impossible for me to catch it!"

These are comments I heard from what I've considered smart people with high education and great people skills.

by Anonymousreply 39610/02/2010

Has she released a Powerpoint on her African adventures yet?

by Anonymousreply 39710/02/2010

Not sure if the men were "exploited." Most knew the list existed before having sex with her.

by Anonymousreply 39810/02/2010

Where are you guys getting the idea she planned this in advance? To me it seemed like she had the idea afterwards. She refers to a guy asking where he placed on her 'fuck list' but she stated that this gave her inspiration to do the project or something like that. I assumed he was simply asking how he rated compared to other guys she'd been with.

by Anonymousreply 39910/02/2010

Well, the story promotes a lot of discussion (and it's gone viral and been viewed by hundreds of thousands of people) because it touches on a lot of basic issues: double standards for sexuality between men and women, whether modern relationships can truly be "NSA", whether promiscuity (in both men and women) is healthy and desirable or a sign of deeper issues, etc.%0D %0D On the whole self-esteem thing, I don't think it's a black-and-white divide between "she's an emotionally damaged mistreated cum blanket who was probably abused and got no enjoyment out of sex" vs. "she's a strong, fierce woman who was always in control of her body and sexuality and turned the table on male oppressors by subjecting them to the same objectification that women face".%0D %0D If you read through her slides, she expresses some ambivalence about self-esteem issues. She acknowledges that her insecurities about her looks made her more susceptible to compliments from guys, though she asserts she's more self-aware of it now. After the hookup where she passed out, she says she was "remarkably calm" considering the circumstances - meaning she knew it was possible she just had sex with a stranger without her consent, but that she was "relieved" it was someone she sort of knew (and jokes that it was yet another athlete). But she's aware that it could have turned out much worse.%0D %0D Finally, the "I don't want to seem desperate and stalkerish by adding him to facebook" slide (with subject 12) and the regrets she sometimes expresses that some hookups never went farther indicates that even though she tried to maintain a nonchalant attitude, sometimes she wanted more than something "NSA" and could be left feeling hurt, vulnerable, and insecure after having sex - which is true of everyone.%0D %0D Don't try to transform her into an emotional robot or Sex and the City character by assuming she was some superhuman who completely detached herself from her own feelings when having sex.

by Anonymousreply 40010/02/2010

r400

One of the rare thoughtful posts on DL, thanks.

by Anonymousreply 40110/02/2010

I wish some slut would give us the 411 on Cade Foster.

by Anonymousreply 40210/02/2010

Read through some more of her stuff. Subjects seven and twelve should have their reviews printed up on business cards and handed out at parties. Those boys are NOT suffering over this.

Hassan, on the other hand, well...

by Anonymousreply 40410/02/2010

The guy you see first in the video at R334 is 6'7 255lbs!

by Anonymousreply 40510/02/2010

So she fucked 13 guys in 4 years and that makes her a slut?!

That's not even a guy every 3 months.

I guess it's a little weird b/c some of the guys knew each other, but other than that I'd hate to hear what you bitches would say about me.

by Anonymousreply 40610/02/2010

I thought about that too, R406. But you have to think that these were not the only guys she slept with in four years AND she slept with some if not most of these guys multiple times.

by Anonymousreply 40710/02/2010

SHIT! I didn't have time to read it yesterday so I pulled it up today and THE NAMES HAVE BEEN BLACKED OUT.%0D %0D Now to read through this thread to figure out what number Hassan was.%0D %0D %0D .

by Anonymousreply 40810/02/2010

r408 here you go.

This site has the slides up with names and photos intact:

fatwhiteguy.com:

by Anonymousreply 40910/02/2010

Here is her linkedin profile with another pic of her:

by Anonymousreply 41010/02/2010

Thank you r372 for the best laugh of the thread.

by Anonymousreply 41110/02/2010

She looks kinda haggish in the Linkedin pic.

The other pic (with Donatella) she looked hot in a scowling sort of way.

by Anonymousreply 41210/02/2010

Thanks r409 - that was very nice of you

by Anonymousreply 41310/02/2010

She's not pretty, just meh. She's the kind of girl who has to give it away and chase guys because no one's going to put much effort into chasing her.%0D %0D She sure got some hot guys, though. Tony is a dream, no matter what she says about his micro penis. (Or maybe that was someone else--he just didn't rate that high on her list).%0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 41410/02/2010

R385... the whore, Crystal Mangum, who falsely accused the Duke lacrosse guys of raping her admitted that she had lied after DNA evidence excluded them all. She lied because she was angry that they had REJECTED her. %0D %0D All of the DNA found inside her orifices ..from about 4-5 different people, was found to be from black males whom she had recently fucked. She was a hideously ugly, filthy whore who apparently hadn't bathed in days. It's no wonder the Duke guys wanted her ass gone.

by Anonymousreply 41510/02/2010

R415, regardless of the rape allegations, the whole incident did not exactly put the lacrosse team in the best light - I mean, why were they hiring strippers in the first place? I thought it was interesting that some tipsters who emailed deadspin said that this story was apparently making some alums unhappy:%0D %0D "Even alumni are spooked, according to one tipster who says that some of his former Duke friends are having a tough time with this latest ordeal:%0D %0D '...most of them played on men/woman lax team, and this brings back very bad memories ... reinforces the whole out of control sex scene at Duke...'"%0D %0D So there were concerns about an "out of control sex scene" regardless of the truth of the rape allegations.%0D %0D Something else of note: the Deadspin editors have been receiving inquiries for Karen Owen's contact info from editors and producers for potential book and movie deals. She might as well make the best of it.

by Anonymousreply 41610/02/2010

R414, au contraire, she said Tony was "enormous."

by Anonymousreply 41710/02/2010

This is the same amoral, Orwellian sickness that caused Tyler Clementi to end his life. %0D A generation has been reared without moral scruples or compassion and this is the result of such nihilism. It is a catastrophe and a harbinger of things to come as our civilization%0D de-evolves tragically into the brutishness of Mad Max or The Road.

by Anonymousreply 41810/02/2010

I'm now starting to wonder about some views that she DID want this leaked on the internet.

Book deals, movie interest?

She is sounding like a plainer version of Paris Hilton or Kim Kardashian.

Leak shit on the net. Act like a victim. Make money out of it.

by Anonymousreply 41910/02/2010

R419 --- just wait until next week when she throws acid in her own face.

by Anonymousreply 42010/02/2010

Out of control sex scene? This kind of stuff happens at every college. Who isn't a total whore in college? That's kinda what you do.

by Anonymousreply 42110/02/2010

Jesus Christ what is the big deal? I've done 13 guys in a week and I'm not kidding. But I'm a top so......

by Anonymousreply 42210/02/2010

R421 I knew/know a lot of people who weren't/aren't whores in college actually. But I see where you're going, college is like a candy store for some and she got to try out a lot of different flavors. It only sucks that this info got out because I feel bad for a few of the guys. At the end of the day it's her life though. If she gets a book deal she wins I guess.

by Anonymousreply 42310/02/2010

I agree with R400

by Anonymousreply 42410/02/2010

R422 - yes, but you didn't do a Powerpoint with names and photos and hand it off to your friends...

by Anonymousreply 42510/02/2010

Let's think up a great title for this woman's Off-Broadway performance art piece.

Vagina Monologues, Naked Boys Singing and Puppetry of the Penis are already taken.

by Anonymousreply 42610/02/2010

I read somewhere that women develop an emotional attachment after sex. So...not good for her.

by Anonymousreply 42710/03/2010

Wow. what an unfortunate looking girl.

by Anonymousreply 42810/03/2010

She looks like lots of the JAPS (Jewish American Princess) I went to school with.

by Anonymousreply 42910/03/2010

R392, if you think that's true, you probably aren't a woman. Promiscuous chicks are fucked up - period. she would have crawled over broken glass to be the girlfriend of any one of these guys. I think exposing the tiny dick guys was incredibly cruel and reckless. I basically hate it for it, and I don't think she's a heroine for anyone. Think what she's done to those guys who didn't measure up.

by Anonymousreply 43010/03/2010

This story is a good reason why Muslims think the US and it's culture should be destroyed.

by Anonymousreply 43110/03/2010

I want the aggressive guy she raves about who she blew in the library. I don't see what anyone did wrong here. Ok, the guy who took 5 mins sounds like a bad lay, but that isn't a crime.

by Anonymousreply 43210/03/2010

[quote]It's not HIS fault she blacked out.

That is one of the creepiest excuses for rape I have ever read. Well done, R403.

by Anonymousreply 43310/03/2010

"I've done 13 guys in a week"

You're a whore.

by Anonymousreply 43410/03/2010

Good thing she wants to work in Africa. Good luck trying to get a job in this country.

by Anonymousreply 43510/03/2010

"My bff told me that from the ages of 16-30, she easily had sex with thousands of men"

Anyone who has sex with THOUSANDS of people is a whore. Not to mention stupid and at risk of STD's. Many pornstars don't even have sex with that many partners.

by Anonymousreply 43610/03/2010

[quote]This story is a good reason why Muslims think the US and it's culture should be destroyed%0D %0D I nominate this quote for dumbest post of the week.%0D %0D %0D Yes, let's all look to Muslims as a shining example of moral behavior. They kill their own daughters if they catch them kissing a boy.%0D %0D %0D R431, if you're gay, the Muslims will kill YOU first.

by Anonymousreply 43810/03/2010

I have no problem with her fucking around, but outing these guys with small dicks, even to her friends, is just mean. like she didn't know word would get around...I don't trust this skank.

by Anonymousreply 43910/03/2010

I love that Karen Owen states that she would like to work in Africa. I'm sure she'll continue to have a great time getting fucked like crazy by well-endowed, oversexed men there.

by Anonymousreply 44010/03/2010

It sounds like Karen was a little sentimental about her #1, Zack Howell, and maybe a little clingy. Not Glenn Close level of stalking, but still you can sense some emotional pain since they never developed any kind of relationship as she might have wanted.

by Anonymousreply 44110/03/2010

[quote] have no problem with her fucking around, but outing these guys with small dicks, even to her friends, is just mean%0D %0D %0D %0D Ha! You can not be serious with this. Women and gay men ALL talk to their friends and compare notes....well, except for you.

by Anonymousreply 44210/03/2010

Everyone needs to read post 400, the poster nails it.

I think this girl should get a book deal, her writing was great. Sorry for the small penis guys, but this is how women talk about men with their girlfriends. It is too bad she put their actual names on it.

by Anonymousreply 44310/03/2010

[quote][R392], if you think that's true, you probably aren't a woman. Promiscuous chicks are fucked up - period. she would have crawled over broken glass to be the girlfriend of any one of these guys. %0D %0D What a woman hater.%0D %0D Shit, I would have crawled over broken glass to get away from some of those guys.

by Anonymousreply 44410/03/2010

I got to hand it to her, though, for exposing that double-standard... Straight guys are always commenting on women's breasts and the tightness of their vaginas, and now it's time for straight men to finally have their penes judged in turn.

by Anonymousreply 44510/03/2010

Sorry, I really don't see why these guys are considered "hot."

They all look like meatheaded trash.

by Anonymousreply 44610/03/2010

Not to mention the way straight men talk about women, r442. r430/r439 sounds like an idiot on so many levels it would take charts and graphs to explain it all.

Oh and r437 = double-decker cunt

by Anonymousreply 44710/03/2010

When are women going to realize that to men they are just fuckholes who do laundry? The guys just learn to say all the right lies to keep the girls as slaves.

by Anonymousreply 44810/03/2010

"Sorry for the small penis guys, but this is how women talk about men with their girlfriends."

Are you saying that women today talk about men's cocks to their girlfriends and what the guys are like in bed?

by Anonymousreply 44910/03/2010

The non serious boyfriends, you bet.

by Anonymousreply 45010/03/2010

Get it, girl.

by Anonymousreply 45110/03/2010

[quote]That is one of the creepiest excuses for rape I have ever read. Well done

Thank you. Enjoy your black and white view of life.

by Anonymousreply 45210/03/2010

447, you're the idiot, not me.

by Anonymousreply 45310/04/2010

What's with all the prudes and pearl clutchers?? That paper is funny. I did something like that in my days, but left off the real names.

by Anonymousreply 45410/04/2010

What has been the reaction at Duke?

by Anonymousreply 45510/05/2010

she put WAY too much time into something intended for three people.. I think it's a total setup, at other people's expense. it's not clenching and clutching :)

by Anonymousreply 45610/05/2010

[quote]What has been the reaction at Duke?

The school has issued a stern condemnation.

Parents of male undergraduates, however, have their lawyers working overtime on non-disclosure agreements which will keep their darling treasures knee-deep in pussy while ensuring that their progeny's dick size is kept as secret as their great-great-great-grandfather's illegitimate children he sired with a slave named Dilsey.

Meanwhile, behind the scenes, fathers of the well-endowed guys have been high-fiving their friends in country club locker rooms, while the parents of the under-endowed engage in screaming matches as to which side of the family passed down the little dick gene.

by Anonymousreply 45710/05/2010

I love you,, R457...especially for the "Dilsey" reference.

by Anonymousreply 45810/05/2010

Thanks, r458.

So few people give Faulkner a detailed read this days.

by Anonymousreply 45910/05/2010

Man, this girl is a fucking HERO. I want to bow at her feet.

by Anonymousreply 46010/05/2010

R460 = Montana Fishburne

by Anonymousreply 46110/06/2010

We should have made this a poll. I wonder what the ratio is here - people like me (that think she's wonderful for scoring that primo cock) and those that condemn her (for scoring that primo cock.)

I guess I do have mixed feelings though. I feel sorry for the the guys having their penile shortcomings revealed to the world.

Maybe it's a good thing. They no longer have to go through that uncomfortable moment of presenting the goods for inspection and worrying about the reaction.

by Anonymousreply 46210/06/2010

If Dharun Ravi was her room mate and he filmed her fucking without her consent and passed it out to everyone, would she say that was ok?

by Anonymousreply 46310/06/2010

She didn't "pass it out" to everyone and she didn't film these guys!%0D %0D %0D Boys/young men have made similiar lists like she has for years about breast size, etc. It's unusual to see a woman do it--and she's not being cruel about it.

by Anonymousreply 46410/06/2010

Actually, the guys with the poor penile ratings will grow the better men after this. They will weather the fleeting notoriety and likely gain a bit of character. The others will become old retired jock douches and become alcoholics w/ 2.3 kids in suburbia.

by Anonymousreply 46510/06/2010

As far as society is concerned she is a fucking slut.

Well, it's true.

by Anonymousreply 46610/06/2010

Why am I an idiot, r453? Because I know that women aren't all the same, and I don't expect them to be?

You wrote that "promiscuous chicks are fucked up - period." I strongly disagree. Some women may sleep around because they have low self-esteem, but that is not the case for all women.

Sex within the context of a relationship can be fantastic, and sex outside the context of a relationship can be fantastic. Many women have figured this out. Not every woman wants to forge an emotional connection and put her heart on the line every time she wants to get off, for good reason. Women have a right to experiment and seek sexual pleasure just as men do, and there is nothing wrong or unhealthy about desiring or enjoying sex, within or without a relationship.

As for her telling of these sexual encounters to her friends, a PP presentation is amusing -- if a bit over the top -- but the comments themselves are no more "cruel and reckless" than the way men talk about women all the time.

by Anonymousreply 46710/06/2010

But women have taken it too far today, R467. Some of them are just whores.

by Anonymousreply 46810/06/2010

[quote]Some of them are just whores

I'm curious. When was the last time you referred to a promiscuous male as a 'whore?' I'm betting never.

by Anonymousreply 46910/06/2010

Why is it that every time I see this thread's title, I read it as "Power Girl's "Fuck List" Goes Viral"

by Anonymousreply 47010/06/2010

R469, while I understand that men (especially straight men) tend to get called different things if they have sex with many different people (e.g. "player"), and that this reflects a double standard, you realize you're asking on Datalounge when's the last time a promiscuous man was called a whore.%0D %0D "You're a whore, darlin'..."

by Anonymousreply 47110/06/2010

double standard

by Anonymousreply 47210/08/2010

Once I realized she was the plain brunette I lost all interest in her so called power trip.

She isn't the hot on so the self esteem issue does come into play.

by Anonymousreply 47310/08/2010

R467, you do realize she hooked up with one guy, met another guy while leaving the house, and immediately hooked up with him in a car? you think that's mental health?

by Anonymousreply 47410/09/2010

Any updates?

by Anonymousreply 47510/27/2010

Sexual freedom is a right of all, straight and gay, male and female, and women should not be held to a different standard simply because of their gender. Sex without emotional entanglement can be fun in its own right. A woman shouldn't be labeled a "slut" or "mentally ill" for enjoying it any more than a man should. And like someone else said upthread, men also sleep around in order to raise their self-esteem and boost their egos and status in the eyes of their friends. Straight guys in particular are notorious for bragging about their conquests to the point of exaggeration or outright lying in order to gain acceptance and approval.

It's a double standard and I'm not going to buy into it, no matter how anyone tries to justify it.

by Anonymousreply 47610/29/2010
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