|by George Cukor||reply 194||12/10/2014|
|by George Cukor||reply 1||09/24/2010|
She possessed a fire rarely found in other actresses of the time.
|by George Cukor||reply 2||09/24/2010|
Fire. Ha! Funny.
|by George Cukor||reply 3||09/24/2010|
She was beautiful and I loved her in A Letter to Three Wives.
|by George Cukor||reply 5||09/24/2010|
A Letter to Three Wives - one of my all time favorite movies. It's like comfort food.
Everyone in it is wonderful.
|by George Cukor||reply 6||09/24/2010|
i think she fucked errol flynn. i read his bio years ago and think she was in it.
|by George Cukor||reply 7||09/24/2010|
Gorgeous, interesting, usually not given good enough material, and absolutely fabulous in A Letter to Three Wives.
|by George Cukor||reply 8||09/24/2010|
One of the most beautiful women ever in films. As others have already said, too bad she didn't get better material.
|by George Cukor||reply 9||09/24/2010|
I think of her, Dorothy Lamour, Hedy Lamarr, and a few other stars of their day as being voluptuous, classy but high-octane sexpot glamour girl that really doesn't quite exist any more.
Note, I am not one of those people saying that there aren't gorgeous actresses working today, I'm just saying that certain of the stars of that era, epitomized for me by these three, had a kind of allure that one rarely sees anymore in pop entertainment.
OK, maybe Lena Olin and Marion Cotillard have it, but I can think of few others.
|by George Cukor||reply 10||09/24/2010|
She would have lead a much happier life had she not been an actress.
|by George Cukor||reply 11||09/24/2010|
r12: Carole Landis
|by George Cukor||reply 13||09/24/2010|
gorgeous! a letter to three wives is excellent.
|by George Cukor||reply 14||09/24/2010|
Thanks, R13. I alkways get my Mysteries and scandals episodes mixed up.
|by George Cukor||reply 15||09/24/2010|
Bit of trivia...in A Letter to three Wives, when she got and the other wives got the letter from Addie Ross, a photo of Otto Preminger was pasted onto the paper...this is because the director ( forgot his name) wanted a reaction from Linda...she was perceived as cold....and Linda hated Otto with a passion because he bullied her on a prior movie she was in ( forgot the name of the movie...am getting old)
|by George Cukor||reply 16||09/24/2010|
r 16:, Preminger's picture was in a frame in a scene with Jeanne Crain (seen from the back...it was supposed to be a picture of Addie Ross). As Crain also hated working with Preminger and was supposed to glare at the picture with loathing, the same 'trick' worked for her.
|by George Cukor||reply 17||09/24/2010|
Linda was just as beautiful as Rita Hayworth in Blood and Sand, I wonder why Rita got to be the biggest star of the two, since both were average actresses (with beautiful faces and spectacular bodies, of course).
|by George Cukor||reply 18||09/24/2010|
Linda in FALLEN ANGEL.
|by George Cukor||reply 19||09/24/2010|
Her kiss with Dana Andrews at 1:41 is still pretty hot.
|by George Cukor||reply 20||09/24/2010|
Very beautiful. Marilyn Monroe said that standing next to Linda Darnell at a party made her (Monroe) feel "dowdy"
Joan Collins said that Darnell kept an unlined skin by keeping her face immobile and free from expression.
In Darnell's later years she was involved with Rudy Sieber, Marlene Dietrich's husband. Dietrich said that she was glad her husband had "that pretty Darnell woman" to keep him company.
|by George Cukor||reply 21||09/25/2010|
The Darnell Preminger movie was Forever Amber.
|by George Cukor||reply 22||09/26/2010|
agree r10 and Gene Tierney, Lena Horne and Ava Gardner need to be added to your list.
|by George Cukor||reply 23||09/26/2010|
She was have Native American half Irish American.
|by George Cukor||reply 24||09/26/2010|
Forever Amber is an excellent movie. The sort of thing that could never get made today. Love George Sanders and his King Charles Spaniels.
|by George Cukor||reply 25||09/26/2010|
Gorgeous woman. Period.
|by George Cukor||reply 26||09/26/2010|
She seemed to be a tough dame in "Three Wives" whereas Jeann Craine appeared as though she'd faint if you looked at her funny.
|by George Cukor||reply 27||09/26/2010|
Anybody see last season's episode of "The Simpsons" that was a parody of "Three Wives?"
|by George Cukor||reply 28||09/26/2010|
She died in a fire.
|by George Cukor||reply 29||09/26/2010|
One of the most gorgeous actresses ever, but sadly developed a severe booze problem and was awfully bloated looking in her last years.
|by George Cukor||reply 30||09/26/2010|
I love her in FALLEN ANGEL and A LETTER TO THREE WIVES. She was one of those like Betty Grable who was so young when she started that she had to lie about her age.
I have been trying forever to see a John Stahl film with her called WALLS OF JERICHO.
|by George Cukor||reply 31||09/26/2010|
Most of "Hollywood Beauty: Linda Darnell and the American Dream" is on google books.
|by George Cukor||reply 32||09/26/2010|
Her mother brought her to Hollywood from Texas along with a pet rooster that she would take everywhere, even to movie sets.
|by George Cukor||reply 33||09/26/2010|
The rooster's name was Tweedles.
|by George Cukor||reply 34||09/26/2010|
R18, in Blood and Sand, Darnell had the dull part of the virtuous wife while Hayworth got to play the vamp which is why Hayworth's career got a boost from Blood and Sand. I don't think Darnell's career really took off until she played a femme fatale in Fallen Angel.
|by George Cukor||reply 35||09/26/2010|
Kenneth Anger included a small section on her in "Hollywood Babylon" including a picture of a burned-out house captioned "Linda Darnell's inferno" but with no details on the circumstances surrounding her death.
|by George Cukor||reply 36||09/26/2010|
|by George Cukor||reply 37||09/26/2010|
1949 wardrobe test for "No Way Out" dressed in Travilla.
|by George Cukor||reply 38||09/26/2010|
I'm shocked no one has mentioned her finest film performance, in Douglas Sirk's SUMMER STORM opposite George Sanders. Run, don't walk to pick that one up, girls! It's too good to miss!
SUMMER STORM is based on one of Chekhov's best short stories. They don't make melodramas like this anymore - it's Sirk, after all!
|by George Cukor||reply 39||09/26/2010|
Poor, tragic Linda!
|by George Cukor||reply 40||09/26/2010|
what a terrible way to die.
|by George Cukor||reply 41||09/27/2010|
Gloria Dickson died in a fire. Darnell the next day. They both had so much potential.
|by George Cukor||reply 42||09/27/2010|
Linda (as TupTim) also gets burned at the stake in ANNA AND THE KING OF SIAM (very underrated movie)
|by George Cukor||reply 44||09/28/2010|
I'm not 85, but it's a hoot to learn about old stars and their scandals. It's like nothing has changed, in fact, it's seems like there was more drama and intrigue in those days. And some of these women were so damned pretty!
|by George Cukor||reply 46||09/28/2010|
No R45 I have to disagree. By reading your comment there are many 10 year olds who still bed wet, and who think anything that is 3-D with a lot of sound effects is an intellectual, stimulating film.
|by George Cukor||reply 47||09/28/2010|
R46 don't bother with R45. He can't comprehend quality films and films that based on good scripts verses cheap sound effects. He is very delusional and has an obsessive compulsive disorder watching Access Hollywood and Extra. Anyone who is not talked about on Access Hollywood or Extra at the present time, is just too much for his lack of mental capacity to contemplate.
|by George Cukor||reply 48||09/28/2010|
Who were her husbands and big affairs?
I had always thought she'd been discovered as an unknown to play the lead in Forever Amber (much like the nation-wide search for Scarlett O'Hara) but perhaps that isn't true?
And I think she was blonde as Amber in spite of eventually becoming one of the most gorgeous sultry brunettes in Hollywood history.
How old would she be in that WML clip? She looks to be 45 by today's standards but is probably ten years younger.
|by George Cukor||reply 49||09/28/2010|
|by George Cukor||reply 50||09/28/2010|
r 49: She was signed by Fox in 1939 when she was 15...and played Tyrone Power's wife (!!!) in DAYTIME WIFE the same year.
Her first film that year is ELSA MAXWELL'S HOTEL FOR WOMEN about the cut-throat world of Manhattan fashion models. Sweet Linda is a threat to top VOGUE model Lynn Bari (playing as always a deliciously evil bitch) in winning a major cigarette ad campaign. But the film is stolen by 'Den Mother' Ann Sothern (who would work with Linda ten years later in A LETTER TO THREE WIVES)
Of course, it is a must see.
|by George Cukor||reply 51||09/28/2010|
Linda was Zanuck's second choice for AMBER. He wanted Lana Turner (who, coincidentally, was one of Linda's best friends. Linda's other best bud was Ann Miller).
|by George Cukor||reply 52||09/28/2010|
Linda Darnell was not just the second choice for FOREVER AMBER but she was also the second actress filmed in the movie. They actually began the production with another actress, Peggy Cummins, who filmed a ton of scenes. Fox saw it was not working and they re-cast it with Linda.
The original ending to the film is around but not available on the vhs. Sadly, Fox never released it on DVD.
|by George Cukor||reply 53||09/28/2010|
Right you are, r 53. I forgot about Cummins. There was a much-publicized "multi-thousand dollar kiss" between Darnell & Cornel Wilde that supposedly proved too hot for the Hayes Office and was cut...but it might have just been canny publicity.
r 49: Her first marriage in 1943 was to the much-older distingished Fox cameraman Peverell Marley. She was unable to have children, and they adopted a girl whom they called Lola. Her honeymoon caused her to be taken off THE GANG'S ALL HERE - she was replaced by starlet Sheila Ryan.
She was originally scheduled for ORCHESTRA WIVES, where she would have been menaced (again) by Lynn Bari. She would have been far better than her dull replacement Ann Rutherford.
Like Judy Garland, Linda had an intense affair with Manckewiscz. (sp.?)
|by George Cukor||reply 54||09/28/2010|
Her real name was Monetta Eloyse Darnell.
|by George Cukor||reply 55||09/28/2010|
She plays the Blessed Virgin Mary in "The Song of Bernadette."
Yes, she really does.
Never gets a close-up, however.
Must have been in the BVM's contract.
|by George Cukor||reply 56||09/28/2010|
r 56: She said she was picked "because I was the only virgin on the lot".
|by George Cukor||reply 57||09/28/2010|
There's a great documentary on Linda, "Linda Darnell, Hollywood's Fallen Angel" that can be found on most torrent sites (use isohunt to search for it)
|by George Cukor||reply 58||09/28/2010|
Thanks for the link to the details of her sad death. I can understand her desperation to save her money. $1200 was still alot of money in 1965 as we all know from our Mad Men discussions and some of us from memory. %0D %0D Before the internet my mom used to be the one who'd tell me all these details about the old Hollywood and for some reason she knew a lot of it and it would usually turn out to be true decades later. She was sort of cynical about it though growing up in NYC she enjoyed some of it. She was the one who told me as a young girl not to be impressed with hype - that they paid girls to pretend to scream and faint at Frank Sinatra concerts. She didn't care for Sniatra or the Kennedys - she thought they were trash. %0D %0D My mom had told me about Darnell's death by fire but these details are even sadder. I thought she died in a drunken stupor passing out with a lit cigarette. %0D %0D it's a valuable lesson and makes me glad that I have a small fireproof safe in bedroom. It's about 15 inches tall by 13 inches and very heavy. Ever since 9/11 I keep sums of cash at home just in case ATMs go down and who knows when I'll have to buy my way out of the country. I've never had more than $2,000 tops but I would hate to lose it in a fire. Everything important is in that safe including some family pictures and important documents so if I have to leave in a fire I'm not worrying about it. If I had a minute to grab things I'd just grab my bag, some clothes for work and a coat and I'm gone.%0D %0D I keep meaning to get one of those fire proof ladders to escape out a window. Now that I am reminded of 9/11 I better lock the safe in case some fireman wants to examine inside. %0D %0D RIP poor hard working Linda. Damn the IRS.
|by George Cukor||reply 59||09/29/2010|
I can recall the news on the radio, the day she died. They said she went back in the house to retrieve her prized possession. A mink coat.
|by George Cukor||reply 60||09/29/2010|
Darnell's drinking aged her badly. By the time she left Fox in the early '50s, she looked bloated and matronly.
|by George Cukor||reply 61||09/29/2010|
R59, what a drama queen. I am all for being prepared but "who knows when I'll have to buy my way out of the country." Grow up.%0D %0D Anyway, back to Darnell. I heard she went back in to find out the status of her secretary's 2 children, both of whom she thought were still inside.
|by George Cukor||reply 62||09/29/2010|
The next door neighbor broke down the kitchen door with an axe, which created a huge backdraft and the fire basically exploded in the house. That's what got Linda Darnell...if the kitchen door hadn't been knocked down she probably would have made it out the front door and lived. Horrible story.
|by George Cukor||reply 63||09/29/2010|
Well r60, we know the truth now... Darnell had a very seductive voice IMO. I fall into a daze when listening to her. She's very cute on WML too.
|by George Cukor||reply 64||09/29/2010|
She is so adorably earthy and natural in that WML clip that her imminent tragic death is even sadder to ponder.
|by George Cukor||reply 65||09/29/2010|
I'm glad R43 mentioned Hangover Square - Linda was luscious but she was also a nasty little bitch in it and the ending with Laird is hysterical and ludicrous, but I love this movie anyhow and the score is lovely.
|by George Cukor||reply 66||09/30/2010|
It was a joke, 62. Chill. %0D %0D And where did you hear that version?
|by George Cukor||reply 67||10/01/2010|
God! Now i discovered that thread. It's nice that it exists! I'm glad that many of you posted for her. She's absolutely worth it. Yes, she was bitchy in 'Hangover Square' but an angel to 'Blood and Sand'. A very beautiful woman and a moving actress. She often described as the "girl with the perfect face".
The way that beautiful woman died was horrible. According to Wiki:
Darnell died on April 10, 1965 from burns she received in a house fire in Glenview, Illinois. She had been staying there with friends while preparing for a stage role in the Chicago area. Her 1940 film, Star Dust, had played on television the night of the fire, and it was widely reported that Darnell had fallen asleep with a lit cigarette while watching it. Some more sensational reports claimed she was intoxicated and despondent over her career. But biographer Ronald L. Davis, in his book Hollywood Beauty, wrote that there was no evidence that any of these stories were true, or that Darnell was in any way responsible for the blaze. By his account, Darnell was burned over 90 percent of her body because rather than jump from the window as her friend's daughter had already done, Darnell tried to make it to the front door. She reached the door but the doorknob was too hot to touch.
She was only 41 years old.
In IMDb it is written about her death: Died in a fire of unknown source while visiting friends. While sleeping upstairs and awakened by smoke, she tried to exit through the downstairs door, but was trapped. Badly burned over 90% of her body she died the following day in the hospital. Source: "Hollywood Beauty" by Ronald L. Davis University of Oklahoma Press.
|by George Cukor||reply 68||12/11/2012|
Everyone who hasn't seen Linda in a movie yet and they want to discover her i recommend them to start by 'Hangover Square', 'Blood and Sand' and 'Unfaithfully Yours'.
She played in many interesting and good movies. I will also mention the 'Mask of Zoro' 'No Way Out', 'A Letter to Three Wives' and 'Fallen Angel'.
|by George Cukor||reply 69||12/11/2012|
She and Ann Miller were close friends by the way.
|by George Cukor||reply 70||12/11/2012|
Another photo with the two of them.
|by George Cukor||reply 71||12/11/2012|
Sensational eyes covered her beautiful face
|by George Cukor||reply 72||12/11/2012|
One of the most gorgeous film stars ever (and yes, that voice!), but sadly became puffy- and bloated-looking in later years from heavy drinking.
|by George Cukor||reply 73||12/11/2012|
She as very kind to a relative of mine back in the forties. She was an unspoiled, down to earth, gracious woman who didn't rely on her beauty to get ahead but by exercising her good will.
|by George Cukor||reply 74||12/11/2012|
I wonder what made her drinking so heavily? I read that her story with Howard Hughes cost her a lot emotionally. Maybe that was one of the reasons among many others of course...It's never only a reason that can destroy someone. It is a chain of experiences and hidden feelings next to the other ones.
Yep, in the forties Linda looked exquisite and she was a blend of innocence and sensuality.
R74 very interesting your description. Yes, looking at Linda in the forties, she seemed to have a very friendly and pleasant air, so what you wrote confirms somehow the impression i have for her. It's a positive one. I'm glad that she was indeed friendly and it didn't only seem so.
|by George Cukor||reply 75||12/11/2012|
What made her incredibly beautiful were in her eyes. Her stare could be very expressive. Her dark brown eyes made her face shine. She was alluring and sweet, what a strange combination.
|by George Cukor||reply 76||12/11/2012|
I loved her in Dark Angel. She's one of the best truly evil femmes fatales in film noir in that movie.
|by George Cukor||reply 77||12/11/2012|
R77, yes Linda could be a very convincing femme fatale, she had the looks to be that too!
Below, there is a photo of Linda Darnell with her first husband J.Peverell Marley. He was a cinematographer. Together, they adapted one child, a daughter. It was the only child of Linda. Linda married three times and she also divorced three times. I wonder why she got unlucky in love. Anyway...i guess many women of her era who were actresses didn't get lucky in their marriages. Being a Hollywood actress was tricky,full of smoke and mirrors and men i guess had not really much understanding.
|by George Cukor||reply 78||12/11/2012|
I read somewhere that 'One account claims Ms Darnell was burned over 90 percent of her body when she ran into a burning area trying to save her friend’s child, not knowing that the young girl had already escaped.'
Well, i guess we'll never know the truth, Linda took it with her to her grave and the evidence that there is about what exactly happened is not clear. Strange, eh?
|by George Cukor||reply 79||12/11/2012|
One more photo of magnetic Linda. My kiss for goodnight to you...
|by George Cukor||reply 80||12/11/2012|
I love her in the sophisticated and daffy "Unfaithfully Yours". Such great entertainment.
|by George Cukor||reply 81||12/11/2012|
Yeah, she was a sensation in 'Unfaithfully Yours'
|by George Cukor||reply 82||12/12/2012|
She began very early as a teenager and was supporting her family then.
Mankiewicz fucked her over royally in the early 50s, they had been "dating" since 3 WIVES and NO WAY OUT (where she is sensationally good in this race drama by Mank), and he was preparing THE BAREFOOT CONTESSA for her in Europe in 1954, but by then Linda was getting past her peak and Ava Gardner was the hot new girl, so Mank gave the part to Ava. Linda had apparantly left her husband for him.
She is marvellous though in that year's THIS IS MY LOVE, a good melodrama by Stuart Heisler, and she is lovely with young Tab Hunter (in his cut-off jeans like a go-go boy) in ISLAND OF DESIRE, where they are cast adrift on a desert island ... she had one good last western DAKOTA STATION in '56, with Dale Robertson.
Sad now though to see her being burnt at the stake in ANNA AND THE KING OF SIAM.
|by George Cukor||reply 84||12/12/2012|
It's tragic to see her being burnt also in 'Hangover Square'.
|by George Cukor||reply 85||12/12/2012|
I wish i knew from what film is this picture. It seems very interesting.
|by George Cukor||reply 86||12/12/2012|
Oh, i find it out. It's from 'Forever Amber', an Otto Preminger film. Her co-star in this is Cornel Wilde.
If i could find this film...
|by George Cukor||reply 87||12/12/2012|
R84 then Mankiewicz was possibly a grand bitch! He maybe was one of the best directors of his generation but the way he treated Linda...you practically implied that he favoured another woman (Ava Gardner) over her. Cheap behavior if he promised Linda that role and then he changed up his mind by seeing Ava.
On the other hand the way Linda treated her husband...well maybe he was not a good hubby... Otherwise, i can't believe that Linda would be so amorous with another man.
|by George Cukor||reply 88||12/12/2012|
How could you not love someone who played The Virgin Mary, an 18th century courtesan, and a blue-collar wife from the wrong side of the tracks - all done wonderfully.
|by George Cukor||reply 89||12/12/2012|
I read that she actually ran back into the burning house to retrieve an amount of cash she had placed in a desk drawer . . . Linda was experiencing money problems at the time of her death.
|by George Cukor||reply 90||12/12/2012|
In the photo below it is Linda Darnell. She is being burnt at the stake(as R84 aptly noticed) in the movie 'Anna and the King of Siam'
|by George Cukor||reply 91||12/12/2012|
R90, i don't know, a lot of assumptions have been made about Linda's death, however is there any solid fact that confirms what really happened that day? From another source i read that Linda tried to save her friend's child from the fire without knowing that the child managed to escape from the fire herself. Someone else i read that Linda was too drunk too be safe...
In Wiki it is written: She had been staying there with friends while preparing for a stage role in the Chicago area. Her 1940 film, Star Dust, had played on television the night of the fire, and it was widely reported that Darnell had fallen asleep with a lit cigarette while watching it. Some more sensational reports claimed she was intoxicated and despondent over her career. But biographer Ronald L. Davis, in his book Hollywood Beauty, wrote that there was no evidence that any of these stories were true, or that Darnell was in any way responsible for the blaze. By his account, Darnell was burned over 90 percent of her body because rather than jump from the window as her friend's daughter had already done, Darnell tried to make it to the front door. She reached the door but the doorknob was too hot to touch.
R90, this is the first time i read that she ran back into the burning house to retrieve an amount of cash she had placed in a desk drawer . It is interesting and i wonder if it could have happened too. Who knows...
|by George Cukor||reply 92||12/12/2012|
Yes, she was fantastic with Rex Harrison in 'Unfaithfully Yours' Hehe...all this caprice
|by George Cukor||reply 93||12/12/2012|
|by George Cukor||reply 94||12/12/2012|
R90, according to findadeath.com, Darnell ran back downstairs to retrieve $1200 that she had left there while working on her taxes. As she made her way to the bottom of the stairs, a neighbor boy took a snow shovel to the back door to save the occupants, causing a backdraft that scorched her good. She was found alive and cursed up a storm on her way to the hospital.
|by George Cukor||reply 95||12/12/2012|
R95 if that is definite and true, it is so goddamn sad and ironic. Anyway,she has been gracious in many movies and she seemed friendly and lovely...things just don't turn out always as we expect them to be...and in some cases terrible things happen like in Linda's case.
However, i'm sure that Linda's life was not only a series of tragedies. She experienced success and i'm pretty sure that she had been loved.
|by George Cukor||reply 96||12/12/2012|
Equally good as blowsy sexpot characters and angelic good-girl ones. Rare in her generation to be allowed that freedom.
|by George Cukor||reply 97||12/12/2012|
|by George Cukor||reply 98||12/12/2012|
Linda may have been replaced by Ava Gardner on The Barefoot Contessa but Ava was the bigger star by then. It's not like she was some hot new unknown who only got the role cause Mank was fucking her.
|by George Cukor||reply 99||12/12/2012|
I can't believe DL has a Linda Darnell thread with 100 posts.
|by George Cukor||reply 100||12/13/2012|
R99, i didn't say that Ava opened her legs to Mankiewicz in order to take that role. I just said that it was cheap of Mankiewicz to give that role to Ava if he had promised that role to Linda first. He could put Ava in another movie, anyway...
By the way Linda was a year younger than Ava. Ava was born in 1922 and Linda in 1923
|by George Cukor||reply 101||12/14/2012|
Linda Darnell was a very beautiful actress
|by George Cukor||reply 102||12/20/2012|
Yes, beautiful and inviting
|by George Cukor||reply 103||12/20/2012|
She was enchanting. She deserves to be remembered.
|by George Cukor||reply 104||12/20/2012|
You can't imagine how much i want to see 'Forever Amber'.
|by George Cukor||reply 105||12/20/2012|
Linda Darnell... what a terrible death she met.
|by George Cukor||reply 106||12/20/2012|
Linda! I wish that didn't happen. However, a lot of bad bad bad things happen!
|by George Cukor||reply 107||12/20/2012|
Linda in 'Hangover Square'
|by George Cukor||reply 108||12/20/2012|
On the set of Forever Amber, Andre Kostelanetz shows Linda Darnell one of his proudest achievements
Tags: 1947, Andre Kostelanetz, Forever Amber, Linda Darnell, They Were Called Records
|by George Cukor||reply 109||12/20/2012|
The 'femme fatale' look
|by George Cukor||reply 110||12/20/2012|
|by George Cukor||reply 111||12/20/2012|
|by George Cukor||reply 112||12/20/2012|
Either troll-dar is broken, or the preceding twelve posts were all by the same person.
|by George Cukor||reply 113||12/20/2012|
R113 can i ask you a question sugar? You troll-dar all the time? That's sad...
Read the context insted and don't be foolish...
You like Linda Darnell or not? That's what it matters in this thread, after all.
|by George Cukor||reply 114||12/20/2012|
|by George Cukor||reply 115||12/20/2012|
Tab: I don't fuck women
Linda:Oh, don't say such things!
|by George Cukor||reply 116||12/20/2012|
Tab: I'll try to kiss you passionately
Linda: I swoon...
|by George Cukor||reply 117||12/20/2012|
R101-12 and 114-17, the answer to the question that you fatuously requested permission to ask is no; I troll-darred only once, at R101. It automatically showed me that the same person (you) had written all of the successive postings. That's what troll-dar does. Curiously, it does NOT show that you wrote the one that 101 implied that you did, about Mankiewicz.
|by George Cukor||reply 118||12/20/2012|
Linda:Come in here macho man. I'm frustrated...Keep me some company
|by George Cukor||reply 119||12/20/2012|
R118 blah blah, take it easy boy, you disturb me
Be more essential, please...
By the way Linda was more beautiful than Ava. Ava was just more notorious...
|by George Cukor||reply 120||12/20/2012|
I recently saw a rare Linda film, RISE AND SHINE, which starred a 39-year old Jack Oakie playing an obnoxious college football hero for the umpteenth time.
Linda plays a cute co-ed and of course she is breathtaking. But I wasn't expecting to see her so laid-back and funny, even taking a few pratfalls. She had a real gift for physical comedy I had not suspected.
I remember reading somewhere that around this time Mickey Rooney was hot to fuck her.
In 1941, MGM wanted to borrow Linda and Carole Landis for inclusion in one of their all-star Technicolor shorts, but asshole Zanuck refused to loan them.
|by George Cukor||reply 121||12/20/2012|
r75, I do remember that awful AJ Benza doing a story on Linda. He said that she became very depressed when she found out that she was unable to bear children. She eventually adopted a daughter, but I think she really wanted to give birth. This put a strain on her marriage as well, and she turned to booze for comfort.
|by George Cukor||reply 122||12/20/2012|
Candid footage of gorgeous Linda and Ann Miller at the Hollywood Canteen.
|by George Cukor||reply 123||12/20/2012|
Guys, i enjoyed your three last messages. It was news to me and i found them very interesting.
By the way, women shouldn't not feel that kind of desperation if they can't have their own children. It's society's fault actually and i bet back that time it must have been awful for a woman to be unable to have children. All this is actually a show-off, 'I can have my children, i can flaunt my children.' A woman can be a good mother to anybody if she needs to be maternal...
Linda maybe needed more support and probably she didn't have it.
|by George Cukor||reply 124||12/20/2012|
Interesting film by any standard, and at 12:13 is a snippet of Linda at the canteen.
|by George Cukor||reply 125||12/20/2012|
I'd like to thank the poster who has contributed so many great photos to this thread, and I suspect it's the same poster who did the same for the Stanwyck/Crawford thread.
It makes these threads far more interesting.
|by George Cukor||reply 126||12/20/2012|
R126, thanks for your appreciation. You are welcome! I also want to thank all of you who keep threads like this alive. I read your comments and i watch your links with much delight.
In the photo below
1946: Slave girl Tuptim, played by Linda Darnell is punished for attempting to escape in a scene from 'Anna and the King of Siam', directed by John Cromwell.
|by George Cukor||reply 127||12/21/2012|
Sorry the link as i can see now didn't work. Well, here is another photo from the same movie.
The end is near for slave girl Tuptim, played by Linda Darnell...
|by George Cukor||reply 128||12/21/2012|
A very kind person uploaded a month ago 'Forever Amber' and now we have the opportunity to download it. God, that's sooooo cool. Thank you, whoever you are! I wanted so badly to see that movie! Yeah! I'm soooooo happy now! I'm downloading it now.
|by George Cukor||reply 129||01/29/2013|
She was gorgeous in 'Forever Amber'.
|by George Cukor||reply 130||02/11/2013|
Alice Faye got jealous of her obviously...
According to Wade Williams in Biography: Alice Faye: The Star Next Door, when Alice Faye saw a rough cut of the film and realized that Otto Preminger's editing had diminished the impact of her performance in favor of newcomer Linda Darnell, she got up from the screening, drove off the 20th Century Fox lot, threw her dressing room key to the security guard, and vowed never to work for the studio again.
|by George Cukor||reply 131||02/20/2013|
Linda Darnell was the first to hire a black secretary that she had travel openly with her. Marguerite Lecense Justice, who became the first black woman on the LAPD, was the secretary to Linda Darnell. She gave an interview in the 70's, and she talked affectionately about Linda. She said one of Linda's favorite quotes was "it takes the white and black keys on the piano to play the star spangled banner."
|by George Cukor||reply 132||02/20/2013|
A luscious woman with a golden heart.
At the end she confronted a lot of problems but she was a really really nice woman. Sje just collapsed...
We love her always.
|by George Cukor||reply 133||02/20/2013|
With Anne Miller, one of her closest friends (1940s)
|by George Cukor||reply 134||02/20/2013|
Linda was desperate for a comeback in the 1950's and even screen tested for a part in a film but Zanuck gave the role to Joan Collins. The footage was released in a documentary maybe 10-12 years ago but when Twilight Time released the film it wad not included as an extra.
|by George Cukor||reply 135||02/20/2013|
|by George Cukor||reply 136||02/20/2013|
|by George Cukor||reply 137||02/20/2013|
The film in referenced in r135 is THE RUNAWAY BUS, based on a John Steinbeck novel.
|by George Cukor||reply 138||02/20/2013|
I will never forget her as well. She was a classic figure of film noirs and an amazing beauty.
|by George Cukor||reply 139||02/20/2013|
Guys, i also loved that kiss in 'Fallen Angel'.
R20 had the kindness to post that wonderful moment of that film. Really, it is one of the most beautiful kisses that have been given behind the silver screen. 'Fallen Angel' is a 1945 film and this kiss is soooo intense, it's almost unbelievable that they filmed this kind of a kiss that era!
A gorgeous moment...
|by George Cukor||reply 140||02/20/2013|
She was a half-breed Indian gal from the great state of Texas!
|by George Cukor||reply 141||02/20/2013|
|by George Cukor||reply 142||02/20/2013|
r131: I'm a huge Alice Faye fan as well, and agree with Wade Williams that it was a dumb choice of Alice to take the bland "good girl" role in FALLEN ANGEL. Even without the cuts in Faye's role, Linda had the juicier part from the start.
|by George Cukor||reply 143||02/20/2013|
r141: And Linda (like Ann Sheridan, another favorite of mine) never hid her Native-American ancestry.
|by George Cukor||reply 144||02/20/2013|
Ann Sheridan-- who new! Now, Ava Gardner, you could tell right off.
|by George Cukor||reply 145||02/20/2013|
R143, in 'Fallen Angel' i discovered Alice Faye and i think that she was very distinctive even in that role. And Yes, Linda Darnell was the striking beauty of that film, the dark dream, it was as Linda represented the vitality of desire...however i believe that Alice Faye shouldn't feel betrayed by the studio. She really delivered a great performance, her face is not by any chance common or boring, she seemed witty and mysterious even as a good girl that falls in love with the first man that wants to deceive her.
They both gave their stigma to this film. I mean it's impossible someone to mention 'Fallen Angel' and not remember Alice Faye! In addition, her name appeared first in this movie. She shouldn't be bothered! Ah...these stars!
|by George Cukor||reply 146||02/20/2013|
|by George Cukor||reply 147||02/21/2013|
You are so enchanting, people just stare...
|by George Cukor||reply 148||02/21/2013|
With Robert Mitchum
|by George Cukor||reply 149||02/21/2013|
Instead of monopolizing the conversation, R146, why not spend some time learning the definition and usage of "stigma"?
|by George Cukor||reply 150||02/21/2013|
R150, you are so constipated and foolish. Ok, maybe in English stigma has a negative meaning (i confess i didn't know that in English its meaning is only negative), but obviously you are the ignorant here. Darling, i'm Greek and the world stigma is a Greek word. Obviously you didn't know that but 'stigma' is derived from Greek stigma, stigmat- "tattoo mark".
Anyway,I'm not sending for people like you in here. I'm sending for others, who can appreciate some things and people and they can find beauty and not only faults and drawbacks in life and in others. I bet you are very miserable and stingy in your personal life, and i'm convinced that i don't really want to know about it anymore.
Below there is a photo of sweet and beautiful Linda Darnell with her mother Margaret.
|by George Cukor||reply 151||02/21/2013|
Oh, yes that kiss in Fallen Angel is so darn hot! That Linda Darnell was a doll indeed.
|by George Cukor||reply 152||02/22/2013|
I think the Hays office forbade open-mouthed kidding, but Preminger got around it by showing it in darkness except when Andrews pulls away.
|by George Cukor||reply 153||02/22/2013|
R153 yes, your observation is correct.
Clever and sly Otto Preminger!
|by George Cukor||reply 154||02/22/2013|
She was one of the most beautiful actresses of Hollywwod. She still is.
|by George Cukor||reply 155||03/01/2013|
|by George Cukor||reply 156||03/01/2013|
I'd only seen her in Forever Amber and I have to say, I didn't think she was all that. She was a knockout with dark hair, though, sultry as hell.
|by George Cukor||reply 157||03/01/2013|
R157 you got that right SULTRY as hell!
|by George Cukor||reply 158||03/01/2013|
Producer-director Otto Preminger noted in his Preminger: An Autobiography (1977) that Hughes was extremely successful with women, partly because of his quiet charm, partly because of his money, and mostly because of his persistence.
Preminger recalled that Hughes expressed an interest in meeting Darnell, the striking actress who at the time was married, and whose contract at Twentieth Century Fox had several years to run. “I don’t need to know him,” said a dismissive Darnell.
As Preminger tells it, the Howard Hughes seduction machine then kicked into high gear.
Although he was an accomplished golfer, Hughes enrolled in the same golf lessons that Darnell was taking at the time.
When she saw him there she naturally felt flattered. Hughes introduced himself to the actress, asking her ‘What harm could there be in the two of us having lunch together?’ Darnell said, yes, providing her agent could come along.
Hughes arrived at the appointed hour, picked up Darnell and agent in an old Chevrolet, and drove to his private airfield. Warming up on the landing strip was a Constellation, one of the biggest planes then in use. ‘What’s going on?, asked an alarmed Linda Darnell. ‘We are going to lunch,’ Hughes answered.
The three of them boarded the plane, with Hughes taking the controls. Destination – San Francisco.
There a car was waiting for them. They were driven to the Fairmont Hotel, which had a spectacular view of the city and the bay. Hughes had taken an entire floor of the hotel. A small orchestra played, a delicious buffet was laid out, and waiters served them with great solicitude, Preminger wrote in his memoir.
I don’t exactly know what happened except that Linda got a divorce from her cameraman husband a few months later.
She never married Hughes, though. It was Preminger’s view that at the time marriage was one human condition Hughes wanted to avoid at any price. (He did, however, wed actress Jean Peters in 1957. The couple divorced in 1971.)
SEE:The Ann Miller thread in Datalounge. There, it is written about the end of the affair of Howard Hughes with Linda Darnell.
|by George Cukor||reply 159||03/01/2013|
Passion, beauty, fire...
|by George Cukor||reply 160||03/02/2013|
It's so easy to fall in love with her in 'Unfaithfully Yours'
One of the most beautiful women ever
|by George Cukor||reply 161||03/08/2013|
i see her movies with so much pleasure. She was so easy on the eye and capable of delivering really nice and memorable performances.
|by George Cukor||reply 162||03/08/2013|
As much i like Gene Tierney, I would like Linda Darnell to play the lead role to Otto Preminger's 'Laura'. Maybe, the film would be less frigid then...
|by George Cukor||reply 163||03/08/2013|
|by George Cukor||reply 164||04/07/2013|
A very interesting link about Linda and her personal life and career.
Bravo to the guys who sent all this intriguing info. Thank you.
|by George Cukor||reply 165||04/07/2013|
I used to think she was biracial and hiding it, but now finding out her real first name, I'm convinced she is.
|by George Cukor||reply 166||04/07/2013|
R166, i don't believe that Linda was hiding her roots from anyone. By the way R166, read R132.
|by George Cukor||reply 167||04/07/2013|
Linda Darnell, the little Texan girl was being cast in films opposite her crush Tyrone Power: 'Daytime Wife', 'Brigham Young', 'The Mark of Zorro', and 'Blood and Sand'.
In most of her early roles, she portrayed the young, virginal figure-- American as apple pie and sweet as candy. Yet, the flash was not enough to alter her sensibilities. Linda did not become a party girl, but preferred to stay at home and read or prep for the next day's work. Still a teen, Linda may have been intoxicated by the freedom-- something that she had never experienced under Pearl's(Linda's mother) control-- but she was still impressionable and uncertain on her own.
Since her parents' marriage was long since one in name only, and Calvin(her father) had preferred life outside the home, Linda too was longing for the paternal figure she'd never really had. For this reason, she quickly fell under the spell of the attentive cinematographer, Pev Marley. With a 22 year age difference, few in the community saw it coming when they eloped on April 18, 1943.
|by George Cukor||reply 168||04/07/2013|
Zanuck(the notorious producer) fired Pev Marley and put Linda on suspension because she wasn't a sweet virgin anymore.
Pev provided the shoulder Linda needed to cry on, the support system that bulked up her confidence, and the sounding board that advised her in her career. Despite this, the marriage was a rocky one. With Linda's insecurity and tender age, arguments and misunderstandings were imminent, and Linda's personal pain was only deepened when she discovered that she could not bear children. The result, adopting daughter Lola, brought some light into her life, but constant threats of divorce and reconciliations made her private life a hazard, especially after she moved her entire family out to California and had to contend with Pearl's jealousy and constant implications of ingratitude. Ironically, Linda's career was soaring. Growing sick of her sweet girl roles, she turned the tables by showing up as grown woman with an edge in films like Summer Storm and her greatest triumph A Letter to Three Wives-- which incidentally ignited a passionate affair between herself and director Joseph L. Manckiewicz.
She hoped the hot and heavy film adaptation Forever Amber would be her true star-making turn, but it failed to draw in the expected business. A success it was; a legend of filmmaking it was not. The experience nearly killed her, as she was on a strenuous diet that induced multiple collapses on the set. Her unfortunate crutch during times of woe was the bottle, a habit taught her by her husband. Under the influence, the normally kind and sweet-natured Linda became angry, unmanageable, and filthy of tongue. As her marriage finally crumbled, Linda found herself on her own once again, especially after her contract with Fox was cancelled-- a result of the new-fangled invention known as television that was picking off stars one by one. Suddenly, the phone stopped ringing, parts were few and far between, and Linda was left to face herself for the first time.
|by George Cukor||reply 169||04/07/2013|
Having grown up on dreams of film and then later on film sets, life outside the movies was unfathomable. Suffering too much too soon, Linda had developed into a lost child of sorts. She was raised as an adult and had matured into a disconcerted infant.
Once a star, she was already out of work at 28. Linda took jobs in television and found herself to be a natural actress on the stage-- an experience she found more gratifying than any of her film work-- and she too sought comfort in love, marrying twice more to Phillip Liebmann and Merle Roy Robertson-- both unsuccessful. To cleanse her soul, she devoted herself to charity, opening up "The Girls Town of Italy" and working with "The Kidney Foundation," but it did not salve the pain of her own disintegrating relationship with her daughter Lola nor the pain of discovery that her long time lover's latest film-- The Barefoot Contessa, which Mankiewicz had penned for her-- had gone to Ava Gardner and not herself.
Darnell had a torrid affair with Mankiewicz, which ruined her marriage. He wouldn’t leave his wife and when he wrote the “Barefoot Contessa” while with Linda then cast Ava Gardner in the role. Darnell was humiliated in front of all her peers.
Below Linda Darnell and Sidney Poitier listen to 'No Way Out' director Joseph L. Mankiewicz
|by George Cukor||reply 170||04/07/2013|
Linda Darnell & Edith Piaf
|by George Cukor||reply 171||04/07/2013|
Linda Darnell & Carole Landis
|by George Cukor||reply 172||04/07/2013|
Linda in 'No Way Out', a title that also could characterize the terrible way this troubled beauty died.
|by George Cukor||reply 173||04/07/2013|
That's a one-of-a-kind photo. Both Linda and Edith were 'brooding' type souls, very sensitive and vulnerable, and loyal to a Tee.
Two wonderful women, thank you so much R171.
|by George Cukor||reply 174||04/07/2013|
R174, you are in!I also think that they were both like that. I'm glad you noticed. I love comments.
Linda in 'No Way Out', sorry for the previous error in R173.
|by George Cukor||reply 175||04/07/2013|
Linda star with Gary Merrill in 'Night Without Sleep'(1952)
You remember Gary Merrill? That period he was the husband of Bette Davis. Actually he was also the fourth and last husband of Bette. So with husband number 4, Bette stayed longer than she did with her other marriages. They got married in 1950 and got a divorce in 1960.
|by George Cukor||reply 176||04/07/2013|
The R162 photo really illustrates how kind her face was, and illumintes her thoughtfulness.
Oh, and thanks for the kind words @ R175.
|by George Cukor||reply 177||04/07/2013|
R177, you are right, She certainly looked that way.
|by George Cukor||reply 178||04/08/2013|
A femme fatale in this photo...
|by George Cukor||reply 179||04/08/2013|
Ravishing and natural once more
|by George Cukor||reply 180||04/08/2013|
November 29 1951, Jet Magazine
|by George Cukor||reply 181||04/08/2013|
Wow, I never thought she was "all that" either until I saw r160's picture. Possibly I was going blind and not knowing it. She was "all that" indeed and much more. What a beauty!
|by George Cukor||reply 182||04/08/2013|
Her voice was so deep and sexy. Yesterday, I saw 'Three Secrets' again. Linda is so wonderful in it.
|by George Cukor||reply 183||05/22/2013|
Sorry, i saw 'A Letter to Three Wives' and not Three Secrets. LINDA, WONDERFUL LINDA!
|by George Cukor||reply 184||05/22/2013|
I want to see 'Summer Storm' with Linda so much.
If i could find subtitles to it...
|by George Cukor||reply 185||05/22/2013|
The one I want to see is THE WALLS OF JERICHO. Sounds like a great picture but it's been unavailable forever.
|by George Cukor||reply 186||05/22/2013|
R186, yes, a lot of interesting old movies are out of reach nowadays, while other new born garbage is piling up dangerously to the market and it's easily accessible.
|by George Cukor||reply 187||05/22/2013|
If she wasn't a heavy drinker, maybe she would be alive right now. What a pity. She was incredibly beautiful, i'm so sorry that she got carried away by her misfortunes.
|by George Cukor||reply 188||05/24/2013|
She also made bad choices as it comes to men. That didn't help at all.
|by George Cukor||reply 189||05/24/2013|
A biopic of Linda Darnell would be very interesting. That's for sure.
|by George Cukor||reply 190||05/24/2013|
She is sooooooooooooooooo sexy in this. Her voice is also very sensual...love it.
|by George Cukor||reply 191||05/07/2014|
Best kisser ever.
Poor Veronica Lake!
|by George Cukor||reply 192||12/10/2014|
What a passionate woman she seemed. The way one kisses says a lot. She was a great kisser indeed.
|by George Cukor||reply 193||12/10/2014|
When she was thin, no one could reach her. Ava Gardner was a joke in comparison with a thin Linda Darnell.
|by George Cukor||reply 194||12/10/2014|